Re: Debian Java checkstyle package.

[Michael Koch]

On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 12:54:22PM +0100, Marcus Better wrote:
> Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
> 
> > On 1/12/07, Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Michael Koch wrote:
> >> > Please just add yourself. Wolfgang is MIA currently but thats not yet a
> >> > reason to remove them.
> >>
> >> What _is_ a reason to remove someone? A package maintained by a MIA would
> >> normally be orphaned. 
> > 
> > checkstyle is maintained by pkg-java, so there is no reason it should
> > be orphan.
> 
> I understand. I was talking about removing Wolfgang from the Uploaders for
> that package.
> 
> > I just
> > can tell he sent me a mail less then two month ago: he is ok but has
> > no time to dedicate to Debian at the moment.
> 
> I'm glad to hear that. Do you know if he would mind to be removed from
> Uploaders? He didn't answer the mails I sent him on a different topic...
> 
> >> FYI: Wolfgang is (co-)maintainer for 90 packages,
> 
> > And did a very good job.
> 
> Of course.
> 
> > All those packages are maintained by the group.
> 
> Formally, yes. In practice, many have not really been maintained.
> 
> > I don't think we 
> > should do specific uploads to remove Wolfgang from uploaders.
> 
> No, that would be very silly! :) But when I do an upload for another reason,
> I would like to know whom I can remove from Uploaders.

Ok to this.


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Re: Debian Java checkstyle package.

[Arnaud Vandyck]

On 1/12/07, Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Arnaud Vandyck wrote:

[...]

> I just can tell he sent me a mail less then two month
> ago: he is ok but has no time to dedicate to Debian
> at the moment.

I'm glad to hear that. Do you know if he would mind to
be removed from Uploaders? He didn't answer the
mails I sent him on a different topic...


No, I don't thinkhe cares. Also, all his contributions are in
debian/changelogs and I'll be ready to sponsor him and put him back in
uploaders if he comes back.


> All those packages are maintained by the group.

Formally, yes. In practice, many have not really been maintained.


Many don't need so mutch attention but you are right, we need more manpower.

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Re: Debian Java checkstyle package.

[Marcus Better]

Arnaud Vandyck wrote:

> On 1/12/07, Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Michael Koch wrote:
>> > Please just add yourself. Wolfgang is MIA currently but thats not yet a
>> > reason to remove them.
>>
>> What _is_ a reason to remove someone? A package maintained by a MIA would
>> normally be orphaned. 
> 
> checkstyle is maintained by pkg-java, so there is no reason it should
> be orphan.

I understand. I was talking about removing Wolfgang from the Uploaders for
that package.

> I just
> can tell he sent me a mail less then two month ago: he is ok but has
> no time to dedicate to Debian at the moment.

I'm glad to hear that. Do you know if he would mind to be removed from
Uploaders? He didn't answer the mails I sent him on a different topic...

>> FYI: Wolfgang is (co-)maintainer for 90 packages,

> And did a very good job.

Of course.

> All those packages are maintained by the group.

Formally, yes. In practice, many have not really been maintained.

> I don't think we 
> should do specific uploads to remove Wolfgang from uploaders.

No, that would be very silly! :) But when I do an upload for another reason,
I would like to know whom I can remove from Uploaders.

Marcus



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Re: Debian Java checkstyle package.

[Arnaud Vandyck]

On 1/12/07, Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Michael Koch wrote:
> Please just add yourself. Wolfgang is MIA currently but thats not yet a
> reason to remove them.

What _is_ a reason to remove someone? A package maintained by a MIA would
normally be orphaned. It's easy enough to add the person back when (s)he
starts working again.


checkstyle is maintained by pkg-java, so there is no reason it should
be orphan. But everyone in the group can upload it.

Paul, now that you are part of the group, go and update checkstyle,
add yourself in the uploaders field. Don't forget to follow the few
rules of pkg-java and put your work in the svn repository. Thanks for
your work.


In the specific case of Wolfgang, who did a _lot_ of packaging but hasn't
been heard from for almost a year now AFAIK, can we perhaps agree that he
is MIA and may be removed from Uploaders fields? Would someone who is a DD
run the MIA scripts to check if there is some recent activity?


You don't need to run the MIA script, I know Wolfgang if MIA. I just
can tell he sent me a mail less then two month ago: he is ok but has
no time to dedicate to Debian at the moment.


FYI: Wolfgang is (co-)maintainer for 90 packages, (nearly) all of which are
Java packages.


And did a very good job. Maybe he is one of the best packager we had.
He also did a lot of work to fix upstream bugs (GNU Classpath, kaffe
and so...).

All those packages are maintained by the group. I don't think we
should do specific uploads to remove Wolfgang from uploaders. I also
think we have other priorities. Any way, if another DD second me, feel
free to remove Wolfgang from uploaders field *only* if there is a good
reason to upload the package. Don't do a 90 mass upload only to remove
Wolfgang from uploaders.

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Re: Debian Java checkstyle package.

[Marcus Better]

Michael Koch wrote:
> Please just add yourself. Wolfgang is MIA currently but thats not yet a
> reason to remove them.

What _is_ a reason to remove someone? A package maintained by a MIA would
normally be orphaned. It's easy enough to add the person back when (s)he
starts working again.

In the specific case of Wolfgang, who did a _lot_ of packaging but hasn't
been heard from for almost a year now AFAIK, can we perhaps agree that he
is MIA and may be removed from Uploaders fields? Would someone who is a DD
run the MIA scripts to check if there is some recent activity?

FYI: Wolfgang is (co-)maintainer for 90 packages, (nearly) all of which are
Java packages.



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Re: Debian Java checkstyle package.

[Michael Koch]

On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 06:59:33PM -, Paul Cager wrote:
> Hi Arnaud, Michael, and Wolfgang.
> 
> I am intending to package the new upstream version of checkstyle, and as
> you are all listed as co-maintainers of this package I thought I would
> just check with you first. Are you happy for me to continue with this
> packaging, or would you prefer to do it yourselves?
> 
> I would also like to make sure the co-maintainers field is up to date.
> Would you let me know if you still wish to be included as a co-maintainer?

Please just add yourself. Wolfgang is MIA currently but thats not yet a
reason to remove them.


Michael
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