Installing KDE2 from CD

2000-11-30 Thread Richard Hunt
I have a CD from Linux Emporium (in the UK), which says
it is taken from the kde ftp site. It has a Debian folder
with packages for potato/i386 binary in
/cdrom/Debian/dists/potato/i386-binary
However I don't think that this is a proper path. Should
there be a main/non-free/contrib in there somewhere?
Also it doesn't have a Packages file. When I do
   dpkg -i libqt-22_2 (something like that)
it complains that it depends on libmng (Graphics?)
However this is not in the folder. The libmng I can
get from Debian ftp depends on a newer version of libc6
is it ok to use this?  There is also a source folder
which has source for a libmng package. Could I use this
or does a package on the Debian CDs(1-3) provide it anyway?
My main problem is getting dselect to find this directory.
Is there a way I can do this manually? If not, is there an order
that I should install the KDE packages manually?
Thanks for any help (yes I am new to Debian. But I have
been using Slackware for two and a half years so I do
have quite good technical ability.)
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Re: missing kdebase-crypto and kdelibs3-crypto

2000-11-30 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> It seems that kdebase-crypto and kdelibs3-crypto are currently missing from 
> the 
> kde.tdyc.com.

as I said, not everything is finished nor uploaded.

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libssl.so.0 and libcrypto.so.0 missing

2000-11-30 Thread Thibaut Cousin
  I've just upgraded libssl096, libssl096-dev and openssl to version 
0.9.6potato4. Some applications (kmail in particular) refuse to start with a :

kmail: error in loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory

and

kmail: error in loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory

  I had to create the corresponding symlinks in /usr/lib.

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Re: libssl.so.0 and libcrypto.so.0 missing

2000-11-30 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
>   I've just upgraded libssl096, libssl096-dev and openssl to version 
> 0.9.6potato4. Some applications (kmail in particular) refuse to start with a :
> 
> kmail: error in loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0: cannot open shared 
> object file: No such file or directory

yea..upstream bug..I just filed a bug report and I will redo those potato
packages to fix it.

Ivan

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Re: A couple of problems - kpackage/woody

2000-11-30 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> I have been using KDE with Debian for some time now. I am currently
> using the KDE packages available on Debian Woody (unstable).

good news...I just saw a commit to the (kde 2.1) kdeadmin/kpackage CVS tree
for migrating to apt support. :)  

Ivan

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Re: A couple of problems - kpackage/woody

2000-11-30 Thread Rick
Hi,

On Fri,  1 Dec 2000 00:30, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
> > I have been using KDE with Debian for some time now. I am currently
> > using the KDE packages available on Debian Woody (unstable).
>
> good news...I just saw a commit to the (kde 2.1) kdeadmin/kpackage CVS tree
> for migrating to apt support. :)

Thanks for the info, perhaps that will help get rid of dselect :) I just hope 
they have it working as well.

Its actually quite good (KPackage), when it works, try selecting a .deb file 
from within the file manager (or browser) when you got a minute and you will 
see what I mean :) 

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Re: A couple of problems - kpackage/woody

2000-11-30 Thread Rick
Hi,

(I might have stuffed this up - excuse if I sent this to the list twice)

On Fri,  1 Dec 2000 00:30, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
> > I have been using KDE with Debian for some time now. I am currently
> > using the KDE packages available on Debian Woody (unstable).
>
> good news...I just saw a commit to the (kde 2.1) kdeadmin/kpackage CVS tree
> for migrating to apt support. :)


Thanks for the info, perhaps that will help get rid of dselect :) I just hope 
they have it working as well.

Its actually quite good (KPackage), when it works, try selecting a .deb file 
from within the file manager (or browser) when you got a minute and you will 
see what I mean :) 

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Re: libssl.so.0 and libcrypto.so.0 missing

2000-11-30 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
ok..this is a bug in my stuff...

it will be fixed with Monday's uploads.  (ie... KDE 2.0.1)

Ivan


On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 02:10:39PM +0100, Thibaut Cousin wrote:
>   I've just upgraded libssl096, libssl096-dev and openssl to version 
> 0.9.6potato4. Some applications (kmail in particular) refuse to start with a :
> 
> kmail: error in loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0: cannot open shared 
> object file: No such file or directory
> 
> and
> 
> kmail: error in loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0: cannot open shared 
> object file: No such file or directory
> 
>   I had to create the corresponding symlinks in /usr/lib.
> 
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> So much more I wanted to give to the ones who love me. I`m sorry.
> Time will tell (this bitter farewell)
> I live no more to shame nor me nor you
> And you... I wish I didn`t feel for you anymore...
> 
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> 
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Re: libssl.so.0 and libcrypto.so.0 missing

2000-11-30 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
fyi..this will also affect the ssh packages as well as probably all the
other packages I rebuilt that link to ssl.  If you don't have libssl09 installed
it will fail...and probably do strange things if you do have it installed.

I'm building new packages as I type this and will have them uploaded later
today.

adding in the links will solve the problem for now...but the correct fix is
installing the yet to be build/uploaded packages. :)

ln -s /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6 /usr/lib/libssl.so.0
ln -s /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0

I apologize for this again.

Ivan


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ssl based potato apps

2000-11-30 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Hi,

   for those of you using anything out of the "optional" section that
uses ssl (fetchmail, apache-ssl, libmodapachessl, links-ssl, lynx-ssl, ssh,
telnet-ssl, sftp, etc..) the fixed packages are uploading right now.
They will be in pub/kde/debian/dists/potato/optional/incoming

I'll migrate them into the proper locations when I get back...

Ivan
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Re: Installing KDE2 from CD

2000-11-30 Thread Alan W. Irwin
I wouldn't trust any CD version of KDE Debian because it is bound to be
dated.  First, KDE2 itself is changing as it moves rapidly to the 2.0.1
bug-fixed release of 2.0.0.  Second, through Ivan's incredible labors, the
Debian packaging is being improved all the time as well.

So without web access you would be cooked, but I am assuming from now on you
do have access to the web. Make sure you are using the apt method for
dselect. If you are using woody=unstable, then the Debian packages for KDE2
are built right in.  But woody is still getting broken from time to time.
If you use potato=stable like most of us, then here is the recipe.

The other day Ivan gave the new line to put into /etc/apt/sources.list which
will allow you to obtain KDE2 for potato.  I will repeat it again here
because you may have missed it.

deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main qt1apps optional crypto

Ivan's notes on the various sections:
main = kde 2 + kde2 based apps 
qt1apps = qt1 based apps and kde 1.1.2
crypto = kdebase-crypto and kdelibs-crypto ... + libssl096  (pretty much it)
optional = updated packages (from woody) such as apache and any ssl based
 app (all compiled against libssl096).  Not necessary (or at least
  shouldn't be..but not tested)

Note the potato packages are just settling down from a major change so
everything might not work right away (see recent messages to this list). For
this reason I haven't updated myself recently, but I probably will shortly
because there have been some positive reports about using the above line in
sources.list.

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On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Richard Hunt wrote:

> I have a CD from Linux Emporium (in the UK), which says
> it is taken from the kde ftp site. It has a Debian folder
> with packages for potato/i386 binary in
> /cdrom/Debian/dists/potato/i386-binary
> 
> However I don't think that this is a proper path. Should
> there be a main/non-free/contrib in there somewhere?
> 
> Also it doesn't have a Packages file. When I do
> dpkg -i libqt-22_2 (something like that)
> it complains that it depends on libmng (Graphics?)
> However this is not in the folder. The libmng I can
> get from Debian ftp depends on a newer version of libc6
> is it ok to use this?  There is also a source folder
> which has source for a libmng package. Could I use this
> or does a package on the Debian CDs(1-3) provide it anyway?
> 
> My main problem is getting dselect to find this directory.
> Is there a way I can do this manually? If not, is there an order
> that I should install the KDE packages manually?
> 
> Thanks for any help (yes I am new to Debian. But I have
> been using Slackware for two and a half years so I do
> have quite good technical ability.)
> 
> Richard Hunt




Re: reports

2000-11-30 Thread Lars Buerding


Hello Ivan,

> Those of you running the latest versions of either potato or woody KDE 2
> packages (that meet the following versions)...let's go over all current
> problems...
>
> are there any of the html problems or other odd behaviours as with the
> previous versions of late?

Konqueror does not cause any trouble at the moment, it is just running
fine :)

> Ivan
> 

Thank you!


Tschau,
Lars




KDE2 on potato installation problems ...

2000-11-30 Thread Bruno BEAUFILS

I got some problems when trying to install KDE 2 on potato, any help will be
appreciated : 

I build a mirror of tdyc archives with rsync from
sunsite.tut.fi::debian-kde/pub/

My apt sources.list are :

deb file:/lpro/debian-mirror/debian potato main contrib non-free
deb file:/lpro/debian-mirror/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free
deb file:/lpro/debian-mirror/helixcode woody main
deb file:/lpro/debian-mirror/tdyc potato main crypto optional qt1apps

and when I try to do apt-get install task-kde, I get : 

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  task-kde: Depends: libqt2.2 but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kdelibs3 but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kdebase (>= 4:2.0-final-13) but it is not going to be 
installed
Depends: kdebase-libs (>= 4:2.0-final-13) but it is not going to be 
installed
Depends: libkonq3 (>= 4:2.0-final-13) but it is not going to be 
installed
Depends: konqueror (>= 4:2.0-final-13) but it is not going to be 
installed
Depends: konsole (>= 4:2.0-final-13) but it is not going to be 
installed
Depends: task-kdegraphics but it is not going to be installed
Depends: task-kdeutils but it is not going to be installed
Depends: task-koffice but it is not going to be installed
Depends: task-kdepim but it is not going to be installed
Depends: task-kdegames but it is not going to be installed
Depends: task-kdetoys but it is not going to be installed
E: Sorry, broken packages

Did I miss something ?

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Re: kivio missing?

2000-11-30 Thread John Zielinski
> side note...koshell doesn't depend on it...just recommends it...the
> task suggests it, and koshell recommends it.  so a apt-get install koshell
> will work, but dselect will force it.

Ah ha.  So it was just dselect being overly vocal about it.  Is there a
better utility than dselect?  I thought I saw a few on the net but haven't
tried them yet.

John





KDM icon corruption

2000-11-30 Thread John Zielinski
The icon that KDE displays on my logon screen is currupted.  It looks like
random data.  If I switch it to display the clock, that looks fine.
Changing the icon does nothing.  Any ideas what I'm missing?

John





Re: KDM icon corruption

2000-11-30 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> The icon that KDE displays on my logon screen is currupted.  It looks like
> random data.  If I switch it to display the clock, that looks fine.
> Changing the icon does nothing.  Any ideas what I'm missing?

nothing..it's an upstream bug.

Ivan

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Re: KDM icon corruption

2000-11-30 Thread Dale P. Smith
John Zielinski wrote:
> 
> The icon that KDE displays on my logon screen is currupted.  It looks like
> random data.  If I switch it to display the clock, that looks fine.
> Changing the icon does nothing.  Any ideas what I'm missing?

I "fixed" mine by finding where the image file is with "dpkg -L kdm",
and then selecting that file with the "browse" button (or maybe I hand
edited an config file...  can't remember).  It's my box at home and I'm
not there now.

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ssl support and all

2000-11-30 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
ok...I've updated all the packages...should be alot happier now... :)

this was actually my fault..the original libssl096 packages I created (prior
to the actual maintainer producing them) were done wrong. :) 

so anyways...it's fixed...let me know if I missed anything.

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apt err

2000-11-30 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls

Hello,

Just looked over all the updates on the list. I have the line:
'deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crytpo' in my source list
but I'm getting this error on apt-get update;apt-get upgrade:

Hit http://kde.tdyc.com potato/main Release
Err http://kde.tdyc.com potato/crytpo Packages
  404 Not Found
Ign http://kde.tdyc.com potato/crytpo Release
Fetched 22.7kB in 5s (3917B/s)
Failed to fetch http://kde.tdyc.com/dists/potato/crytpo/binary-i386/Packages
  404 Not Found
Reading Package Lists... Done

Did I mess up my source line? 

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Re: reports

2000-11-30 Thread Bruce Sass
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
> Those of you running the latest versions of either potato or woody KDE 2
> packages (that meet the following versions)...let's go over all current
> problems...
> 
> Package: kdelibs3  4:2.0-final-13
> Package: kdebase-libs,kdebase,kdm,konqueror,konsole,libkonq3  4:2.0-final-13

I don't think they are packaging problems, but if a fix is possible...
- color handling on this 8-bit display is really bad
- blending only works if the G in RGB is set to 127-130
  (KDE11x was fine and other wm's are ok)
- desktop icons and the desktop menu usually appear colorless
  (gray scaled?), even though the same icons on the panel,
  application menu (whether activated from the panel or by
  clicking on the root window) and windows menu are OK
- too many colors are being used up, even an app
  I wouldn't consider a color hog, LyX, needs a private colormap 
  to startup  most "modern" wm's have this problem,
  I guess I'll have to read up on ImageMagick's mogrify command
- when an app uses a private colormap the titlebar is
  unreadable (I haven't noticed the problem with other wm's)
- colormap focus does not follow the mouse when moving to the
  panel, when a panel icon is selected, or the background (both
  root window and panel) are clicked on
- KDE is placing a .gtkrc file in users $HOME dirs (grrr, KDE shouldn't 
  affect the colors of apps running under a different wm, on a
  different display)
- I'm still getting a .kde directory in /
- clicking on the root window brings up the associated menu (desktop,
  windows, or applications), clicking a second time brings up the menu
  again - instead of removing it


later,

Bruce




Re: reports

2000-11-30 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> - color handling on this 8-bit display is really bad

[ ... ]  submit a bug for these. :)

> - KDE is placing a .gtkrc file in users $HOME dirs (grrr, KDE shouldn't 
>   affect the colors of apps running under a different wm, on a
>   different display)

I've fixed this for 2.1...well, part of it...the rest depends on what the
user clicks...and the part I did fix can be changed (it's in the kde2 script)

> - I'm still getting a .kde directory in /

this is fixed in 2.1...we are still trying to figure out why it's not fixed
in 2.0.1

> - clicking on the root window brings up the associated menu (desktop,
>   windows, or applications), clicking a second time brings up the menu
>   again - instead of removing it

if the mouse moves yes.  if the mouse is in the same position as the first
click the menu does go away...

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Re: apt err

2000-11-30 Thread Pascal Hos
Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
Hello,
Just looked over all the updates on the list. I have the line:
'deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crytpo' in my source list
 --
  deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto
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Re: reports

2000-11-30 Thread Daniel Robert Franklin
On Fri,  1 Dec 2000 14:18, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:

> > - clicking on the root window brings up the associated menu (desktop,
> >   windows, or applications), clicking a second time brings up the menu
> >   again - instead of removing it
>
> if the mouse moves yes.  if the mouse is in the same position as the first
> click the menu does go away...
>

Hmmm... for me the desktop menu behaves correctly but the windows menu does 
not (2.0-final-12/13).

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Re: reports

2000-11-30 Thread Bruce
I have just upgraded to the final-13 versions of the packages below, but 
still have the text/html error message when starting Konquerer web browser 
from the K menu or desktop shortcut (i.e.,"kfmclient openProfile 
webbrowsing"),

Could not create view for text/html.
Check your installation

Though browsing works fine by simply launching "konqueror" from a terminal.

On a similar note, trying to open a web page from a konquerer file manager 
window, or trying to open a man page using ALT-F2 #foo,  will result in a 
prompt to save or open the file. Selecting open gives the following error,

There appears to be a misconfiguration. You have associated 
konqueror with text/html, but it can't handle this file type.

Another note: I was getting md5sum mismatch errors apt-getting 
libqt2.2-dev_2.2.2-0.potato.6_i386.deb this evening.


I am running KDE 2.0 installed 1/2 an hour ago with the following apt-get 
line; 

 deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main qt1apps optional crypto

All the packages mentioned are the final-13 versions.

System: K6/2 450, Linux 2.2.17, Debian potato

I'm not sure what to look for to give more information on this problem, but 
am willing to hunt around a bit if I can help out.

I don't think you can get enough thanks for all the great work on KDE/Debian. 

 - Bruce



Those of you running the latest versions of either potato or woody KDE 2
packages (that meet the following versions)...let's go over all current
problems...

Package: kdelibs3  4:2.0-final-13
Package: kdebase-libs,kdebase,kdm,konqueror,konsole,libkonq3  4:2.0-final-13

are there any of the html problems or other odd behaviours as with the
previous versions of late?

Ivan


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Re: reports

2000-11-30 Thread Dale P. Smith
"Ivan E. Moore II" wrote:
> 
> Those of you running the latest versions of either potato or woody KDE 2
> packages (that meet the following versions)...let's go over all current
> problems...

Not sure if this is intentional or not.

I have wp8 installed on my home machine.  The executable lives in
/opt/wp8bin/xwp (or somewhere like that, I'm at work now).  Kde knew
that wp documents belonged to wp, but it didn't know where the
executable was.  Adding it with the browser seemed to work, but wp would
not start by clicking on a document.  I had to put a shell wrapper in
/usr/local/bin.  Something like:

#!/bin/sh
/opt/wp8bin/xwp "$@"

(susbstitute the correct directory, of course)

Telling kde to use "xwp" for wp documents then allowed you to open them
by clicking on them.

Seems like an exe *has* to be on the path.

Where is the file to edit to change $PATH ???

Thanks!
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