Re: task-kde, task-kde-devel not installable
potato? On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 11:37:12PM -0500, John Dalbec wrote: > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: > task-kde: Depends: pixie but it is not installable > Depends: kformula but it is not installable > E: Sorry, broken packages > --- > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: > task-kde-devel: Depends: xlibs-dev but it is not installable or >xlibs6g-dev but it is not installable > Depends: libxml2-dev but it is not installable > E: Sorry, broken packages > --- > John > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
task-kde, task-kde-devel not installable
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: task-kde: Depends: pixie but it is not installable Depends: kformula but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages --- Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: task-kde-devel: Depends: xlibs-dev but it is not installable or xlibs6g-dev but it is not installable Depends: libxml2-dev but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages --- John
Re: Konqueror + web auth question
Nick wrote: > > Well it has never worked correctly for me (even within a single session), > a bug report weeks ago gave no response... I have also had this problem on and off for a while. As of the latest update, though, it seems to be working again (ie; not opening dozens of Auth boxes). > Whatever the developers' paranoia about storing passwords, it should be an > option to save them across browser exit and system reboots. I'm quite happy > for those sorts of passwords to be stored on my machine (even in plaintext) - > the world wouldn't end if someone hacked in + read them! For the record, I *do* care about some passwords I use, and some are even on secure servers. ^_^ -- . Trevor Phillips - http://jurai.murdoch.edu.au/ . : CWIS Systems Administrator - [EMAIL PROTECTED] : | IT Services - Murdoch University | >--- Member of the #SAS# & #CFC# < | On nights such as this, evil deeds are done. And good deeds, of / | course. But mostly evil, on the whole. / \ -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) /
Re: Brain dead question!
> It is indeed executing /etc/X11/Xsession for all chosen options, but from > looking at the script my understanding is that $startup (later > $real-startup) has the following value: > > kdm option kde2: kde2 > kdm option default: $HOME/.xsession > kdm option failsafe: x-terminal-emulator > > only $startup is executed: if it's kde2, $HOME/.xsession is not executed. according to the X scripts (first Xsession then the files in Xsession.d/) startup=$HOME/.xsession then it checks to see if what it was passed (kde2/default/failsafe) exists... if it is it changes $startup to it. then it checks to see if $startup exists..then to see if allow-user-xsession is set in /etc/X11/Xsession.options and if it is then realstartup = startup (or sh startup depending on if it's executable or not) now..if either $startup doesn't exist or allow-user-xsession isn't set then realstartup = x-window-manager. hmmm...so it's a Debian X feature. :) Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: AA support
I believe the problem was copyrighted fonts. Something which proprietary OS's just pay for to include in their OS's. On Sunday 17 December 2000 14:32, Nick wrote: > On Sun 17 Dec, Christian Mayrhuber wrote: > > Am Sunday 17 December 2000 20:08 schrieb Rogerio Brito: > > > What is this AA support? I'm curious about it after these > > > comments. :-) Really. Please enlighten me. :-) > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much, Roger... > > > > Antialiasing smoothens fonts on your display, especially on higher > > resolutions. > > Mac's, Windows PC's and other OS'es are able to do it for a long time > > and XFree finally does it, too! > > My god - my Acorn RISC OS machine has been doing this perfectly well since > 1991 ! Why has it taken so long for X to catch up?
Re: Where is task-kde?
Hi, thank you for putting the links for potato KDE2. On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 09:40:19AM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > oops...it's there now > > > I also tried to change the order of the sections (potato main qt1apps > > optional crypto), > > but the result is the same. Last week I read in the debia-user list that > > this setup > > worked nicely. Has anything changed since then? > > just me forgetting to put the links in for them. :) > I tried again with the same source line, but this is what I got: debian:/home/gpa# apt-get update <...> debian:/home/gpa# apt-get install task-kde Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: task-kde: Depends: kdebase but it is not going to be installed Depends: pixie but it is not installable Depends: kformula but it is not installable Depends: kivio but it is not going to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages It seems something is not yet OK, what do yoy think? Regards, Gian Piero
Re: Brain dead question!
It can get confusing, but it is well worth the effort to figure out ways to do this because it permits you a practical and efficient way to access and use the latest full gui things like potato running KDE2, KOffice, Star Office from workstations as minimal as some of my old 486sx machines with 8 MB ram and 100 MB hard drives. Later, Colin Bart Oldeman wrote: > On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: > > > Or anyone for that matter - can you suggest a site for reading up on > > what kdm/xdm does. Why one would load this. what it does, what it's for > > etc. I have never had a firm understanding of any of it and I would like to > > learn much more about it, but never found any place to learn about it. The > > books I have don't talk about them at all. > > no not really, but take a look at > http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue27/kaszeta.html > for some examples > and the XWindow-User-HOWTO for a basic explanation and of course there's > man xdm. > > The part which I find hardest to understand is the network part, so let's > give that a try: > > Let's have two hosts: > > workstation server > hostA --- hostB > > Let's say that hostA and hostB both run xdm: hostA runs xdmA and hostB > runs xdmB. hostA is going to run an X server. host B does not need to. > > Now of course in terms of X, A is the server and B is the client. > > Normally xdm on A will start the X server on A, present a login screen, > let the user login and executes /etc/X11/Xsession. > > But you can also run (also without xdm running on hostA) > X -indirect hostB > or > X -query hostB > on hostA to connect to the xdm running on hostB. Then hostB will present > its login screen (can be Solaris or anything else X). And from there on > your using your computer A as an X terminal: all programs run on B but > screen/keyboard input/output is done by the X server on A. > > Now instead of presenting a login screen straight away you can also > instruct xdm in /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess to bring up a chooser screen listing > the hosts. If both hostA and hostB are running xdm and give access at that > point it will list > hostA > hostB > the the user can choose one of these, and the xdm on the chosen host > presents its login screen. > > Note that you can either have the chooser from hostA or the chooser from > hostB. > > all similar for kdm. > > That's what I understand of it. > Bart > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Brain dead question!
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: > Or anyone for that matter - can you suggest a site for reading up on > what kdm/xdm does. Why one would load this. what it does, what it's for > etc. I have never had a firm understanding of any of it and I would like to > learn much more about it, but never found any place to learn about it. The > books I have don't talk about them at all. no not really, but take a look at http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue27/kaszeta.html for some examples and the XWindow-User-HOWTO for a basic explanation and of course there's man xdm. The part which I find hardest to understand is the network part, so let's give that a try: Let's have two hosts: workstation server hostA --- hostB Let's say that hostA and hostB both run xdm: hostA runs xdmA and hostB runs xdmB. hostA is going to run an X server. host B does not need to. Now of course in terms of X, A is the server and B is the client. Normally xdm on A will start the X server on A, present a login screen, let the user login and executes /etc/X11/Xsession. But you can also run (also without xdm running on hostA) X -indirect hostB or X -query hostB on hostA to connect to the xdm running on hostB. Then hostB will present its login screen (can be Solaris or anything else X). And from there on your using your computer A as an X terminal: all programs run on B but screen/keyboard input/output is done by the X server on A. Now instead of presenting a login screen straight away you can also instruct xdm in /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess to bring up a chooser screen listing the hosts. If both hostA and hostB are running xdm and give access at that point it will list hostA hostB the the user can choose one of these, and the xdm on the chosen host presents its login screen. Note that you can either have the chooser from hostA or the chooser from hostB. all similar for kdm. That's what I understand of it. Bart
Re: Konsole and pam-solved
Mircea Luca wrote: > > Hi > > Everytime I try to su from konsole I get a pam_authentication error.su > from kterm > or a vt works fine.Does anybody experience this or is just something > Storm specific and what may it be ? > > Thanks > > -- Well ,the latest upgrade from yesterday solved this problem.Still don't know why though.:-( -- The best way to escape from a problem is to solve it. Alan Saporta
Re: Brain dead question!
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > hmmm kdm should tag the /etc/X11/Xsession file for all chosen options... > it seems to be doing it in part at least (I don't use a .xsession file so > I have no clue)... because it is using the .xsession-errors file for logging. > > the Xsession file is supposed to be what actually launches the wm..which is > what also tags the users .xsession (and other) files...so if it's not tagging > those files than something whacky is wrong... It is indeed executing /etc/X11/Xsession for all chosen options, but from looking at the script my understanding is that $startup (later $real-startup) has the following value: kdm option kde2: kde2 kdm option default: $HOME/.xsession kdm option failsafe: x-terminal-emulator only $startup is executed: if it's kde2, $HOME/.xsession is not executed. Now if such a file (`which kde2` or $HOME/.xsession) does not exist it tries to execute x-window-manager and if that does not exist it executes x-terminal-emulator and if that does not exist it complains. Bart
Re: AA support
On Sun 17 Dec, Christian Mayrhuber wrote: > Am Sunday 17 December 2000 20:08 schrieb Rogerio Brito: > > What is this AA support? I'm curious about it after these > > comments. :-) Really. Please enlighten me. :-) > > > > > > Thank you very much, Roger... > > Antialiasing smoothens fonts on your display, especially on higher > resolutions. > Mac's, Windows PC's and other OS'es are able to do it for a long time > and XFree finally does it, too! My god - my Acorn RISC OS machine has been doing this perfectly well since 1991 ! Why has it taken so long for X to catch up? -- Nick Smith, Webmaster, Climbers.Net UK. http://www.climbers.net/ Low-cost Internet services for the climbing and outdoor pursuits industry
Re: AA support
On Dec 17 2000, Gordon Sadler wrote: > AA = Anti-aliasing Oooh, how silly of me. :-) That is indeed a true christmas present. And also a motivation to start playing with woody. Now, with so many attractive things in Woody, I'm truly tempted to start using it. The only thing that prevents me from doing that is the Recent, Big Perl 5.6 Breakage (tm). :-) Thank you very much for your comments, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: AA support
Am Sunday 17 December 2000 20:08 schrieb Rogerio Brito: > What is this AA support? I'm curious about it after these > comments. :-) Really. Please enlighten me. :-) > > > Thank you very much, Roger... Antialiasing smoothens fonts on your display, especially on higher resolutions. Mac's, Windows PC's and other OS'es are able to do it for a long time and XFree finally does it, too! Have a look at: http://dot.kde.org/976188122/ or directly at the picture: http://devel-home.kde.org/~granroth/aadesktop.png Compare the screenshot and be amazed how smooth the website looks in Konqueror.
Re: AA support
AA = Anti-aliasing There was a news byte at kde.org regarding it. I didn't look too deeply myself but most of the comments seemed to applaud the efforts as being great for the visuals. On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 05:08:00PM -0200, Rogerio Brito wrote: > On Dec 17 2000, Christian Mayrhuber wrote: > > Am Sunday 17 December 2000 18:31 schrieb Ivan E. Moore II: > > > FYI - I'm building a new QT 2.2.3 package with the Xft extension support. > > > This is of course just for woody as it requires the latest X4. So > > > hopefully we'll be able to see AA support functional soon for KDE and > > > other's... > > > > Whoooha! > > This would be a true christmas present :)) > > What is this AA support? I'm curious about it after these > comments. :-) Really. Please enlighten me. :-) > > > Thank you very much, Roger...
Re: AA support
On Dec 17 2000, Christian Mayrhuber wrote: > Am Sunday 17 December 2000 18:31 schrieb Ivan E. Moore II: > > FYI - I'm building a new QT 2.2.3 package with the Xft extension support. > > This is of course just for woody as it requires the latest X4. So > > hopefully we'll be able to see AA support functional soon for KDE and > > other's... > > Whoooha! > This would be a true christmas present :)) What is this AA support? I'm curious about it after these comments. :-) Really. Please enlighten me. :-) Thank you very much, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Brain dead question!
Bart, Or anyone for that matter - can you suggest a site for reading up on what kdm/xdm does. Why one would load this. what it does, what it's for etc. I have never had a firm understanding of any of it and I would like to learn much more about it, but never found any place to learn about it. The books I have don't talk about them at all. Thank you. On Sunday 17 December 2000 09:41, Bart Oldeman wrote: > On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > if you use kdm just log in using "kde2" ..dont' use default. > > (this is just a tip: I'm sure Ivan already knows this ...) > unless you want to have your ~/.xsession executed: then you _have_ to use > default; important if you want to have some environment variables set up > at startup. > > kdm's shutdown button works properly now by the way. > > And what's that? kdm's configuration panel suddenly has some > "convenience" settings: Enable automatic login, truly automatic login, > enable password-less logins, show previous user. Hmm. Reminds me of > something else ;-) > > I'll still have to check out kdm's chooser: it seems to be quite broken > at this time: > chooser BROADCAST > works for xdm's chooser, but for kdm's chooser it says: > chooser: Unexpected argument 'BROADCAST'. > chooser: Use --help to get a list of available command line options. > and the --help does not help: gives generic qt and kde options. Is there a > way to avoid this, or should I just drop in xdm's chooser. > > I might just do a bug report for kdm at kde. > > > I could have sworn I had explained this several times already. > > Yes you have. > > Bart -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: Konqueror + web auth question
On Sun 17 Dec, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 05:54:05PM +, Nick wrote: > > Can someone explain to me how Konqueror works with website passwords > > (HTTP_AUTH stuff) ? Every version I've used pops up multiple auth > > requests (one for the page, plus one for each image on the page) and > > doesn't seem to remember the damn things. > > > > Since I spend most of my life working on development websites with password > > protected access, this is really annoying! > > > > Is it possible to get Konqueror to behave like other browsers and remember > > the passwords (from page to page, upon browser exit/reload, and across > > system reboots) ? > > I have not had any problems with the auth pieces. Konq is designed to > store a password for a site access from a single konq session. If you have > 2 browsers open..they are treated totally seperate. It will never save > the passwords upon browser exit and definatly not across system reboots... Well it has never worked correctly for me (even within a single session), a bug report weeks ago gave no response... Whatever the developers' paranoia about storing passwords, it should be an option to save them across browser exit and system reboots. I'm quite happy for those sorts of passwords to be stored on my machine (even in plaintext) - the world wouldn't end if someone hacked in + read them! Cheers -- Nick Smith, Webmaster, Climbers.Net UK. http://www.climbers.net/ Low-cost Internet services for the climbing and outdoor pursuits industry
Re: Brain dead question!
hmmm kdm should tag the /etc/X11/Xsession file for all chosen options... it seems to be doing it in part at least (I don't use a .xsession file so I have no clue)... because it is using the .xsession-errors file for logging. the Xsession file is supposed to be what actually launches the wm..which is what also tags the users .xsession (and other) files...so if it's not tagging those files than something whacky is wrong... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: keystone - Silly but whatzit?
On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 10:04:33AM -0800, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: > > Hello, > > Keystone was just update - didn't know I had it - but it runs and has > absolutely no docs - man pages etc. what is keystone? A VNC client. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: AA support
> Whoooha! > This would be a true christmas present :)) > > A question: > There is the Xft extension necessary, which is in the XF4 CVS, only, but not > in an official distribution and therefore are no debs available - right? the Xft extension is necessary and is part of the 4.0.2 strain of X4...which the pre version of it is now in woody...so in the next version or 2 it'll be all happy. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
keystone - Silly but whatzit?
Hello, Keystone was just update - didn't know I had it - but it runs and has absolutely no docs - man pages etc. what is keystone? -- Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145 This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
Re: Konqueror + web auth question
On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 05:54:05PM +, Nick wrote: > Can someone explain to me how Konqueror works with website passwords > (HTTP_AUTH stuff) ? Every version I've used pops up multiple auth > requests (one for the page, plus one for each image on the page) and > doesn't seem to remember the damn things. > > Since I spend most of my life working on development websites with password > protected access, this is really annoying! > > Is it possible to get Konqueror to behave like other browsers and remember > the passwords (from page to page, upon browser exit/reload, and across > system reboots) ? I have not had any problems with the auth pieces. Konq is designed to store a password for a site access from a single konq session. If you have 2 browsers open..they are treated totally seperate. It will never save the passwords upon browser exit and definatly not across system reboots... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: AA support
Am Sunday 17 December 2000 18:31 schrieb Ivan E. Moore II: > FYI - I'm building a new QT 2.2.3 package with the Xft extension support. > This is of course just for woody as it requires the latest X4. So > hopefully we'll be able to see AA support functional soon for KDE and > other's... > > Ivan Whoooha! This would be a true christmas present :)) A question: There is the Xft extension necessary, which is in the XF4 CVS, only, but not in an official distribution and therefore are no debs available - right? Chris
Konqueror + web auth question
Can someone explain to me how Konqueror works with website passwords (HTTP_AUTH stuff) ? Every version I've used pops up multiple auth requests (one for the page, plus one for each image on the page) and doesn't seem to remember the damn things. Since I spend most of my life working on development websites with password protected access, this is really annoying! Is it possible to get Konqueror to behave like other browsers and remember the passwords (from page to page, upon browser exit/reload, and across system reboots) ? Thanks -- Nick Smith, Webmaster, Climbers.Net UK. http://www.climbers.net/ Low-cost Internet services for the climbing and outdoor pursuits industry
Re: Brain dead question!
On Sunday 17 December 2000 11:23, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > I could have sworn I had explained this several times already. You may have. I probably just wasn't paying attention... -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Brain dead question!
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > if you use kdm just log in using "kde2" ..dont' use default. (this is just a tip: I'm sure Ivan already knows this ...) unless you want to have your ~/.xsession executed: then you _have_ to use default; important if you want to have some environment variables set up at startup. kdm's shutdown button works properly now by the way. And what's that? kdm's configuration panel suddenly has some "convenience" settings: Enable automatic login, truly automatic login, enable password-less logins, show previous user. Hmm. Reminds me of something else ;-) I'll still have to check out kdm's chooser: it seems to be quite broken at this time: chooser BROADCAST works for xdm's chooser, but for kdm's chooser it says: chooser: Unexpected argument 'BROADCAST'. chooser: Use --help to get a list of available command line options. and the --help does not help: gives generic qt and kde options. Is there a way to avoid this, or should I just drop in xdm's chooser. I might just do a bug report for kdm at kde. > I could have sworn I had explained this several times already. Yes you have. Bart
Re: Brain dead question!
> update-alternatives 1.6.15 (potato) needs a 'priority' argument as well - > I chose 50 and it all works lovely again :-) > > update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-window-manager x-window-manager > /usr/bin/kde2 50 > oops...yea..forgot to finish the line out. :) -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Brain dead question!
On Sun 17 Dec, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > If your using startx you need to manually add kde2 to your alternatives > > update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-window-manager x-window-manager > /usr/bin/kde2 > > the package will not do that anymore as it's against policy...we are working > on getting a x-session-manager setup... update-alternatives 1.6.15 (potato) needs a 'priority' argument as well - I chose 50 and it all works lovely again :-) update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-window-manager x-window-manager /usr/bin/kde2 50 Thanks -- Nick Smith, Webmaster, Climbers.Net UK. http://www.climbers.net/ Low-cost Internet services for the climbing and outdoor pursuits industry
AA support
FYI - I'm building a new QT 2.2.3 package with the Xft extension support. This is of course just for woody as it requires the latest X4. So hopefully we'll be able to see AA support functional soon for KDE and other's... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Brain dead question!
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Nick wrote: > Sorry to ask such a newbie question, but how do I get KDE to start > as the default system window manager? It's been working fine for weeks, and > then after an upgrade a few days ago it has gone back to a blank grey twm > desktop when I log in ... :-( I just have exec startkde in my ~/.xsession Bart
Re: Brain dead question!
> Same thing happened here. Ivan, is that an oops? no. if you use kdm just log in using "kde2" ..dont' use default. If your using startx you need to manually add kde2 to your alternatives update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-window-manager x-window-manager /usr/bin/kde2 the package will not do that anymore as it's against policy...we are working on getting a x-session-manager setup... I could have sworn I had explained this several times already. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Brain dead question!
On Sunday 17 December 2000 10:50, Nick wrote: > Sorry to ask such a newbie question, but how do I get KDE to start > as the default system window manager? It's been working fine for > weeks, and then after an upgrade a few days ago it has gone back to a > blank grey twm desktop when I log in ... :-( Same thing happened here. Ivan, is that an oops? What I did was remove the symlink /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager which pointed to twm, and make one which pointed to /usr/bin/startkde. -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Brain dead question!
Sorry to ask such a newbie question, but how do I get KDE to start as the default system window manager? It's been working fine for weeks, and then after an upgrade a few days ago it has gone back to a blank grey twm desktop when I log in ... :-( Thanks -- Nick Smith, Webmaster, Climbers.Net UK. http://www.climbers.net/ Low-cost Internet services for the climbing and outdoor pursuits industry
Re: Where is task-kde?
oops...it's there now > I also tried to change the order of the sections (potato main qt1apps > optional crypto), > but the result is the same. Last week I read in the debia-user list that this > setup > worked nicely. Has anything changed since then? just me forgetting to put the links in for them. :) Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Where is task-kde?
Hi, I'm trying to install KDE2 on my Debian potato. This is the KDE line I got in sources-list: # KDE deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional qt1apps Nevertheless, when I try to apt-get install task-kde I'm told it's nowhere to be found: debian:/home/gpa# apt-get update <> debian:/home/gpa# apt-get install task-kde Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package task-kde debian:/home/gpa# I also tried to change the order of the sections (potato main qt1apps optional crypto), but the result is the same. Last week I read in the debia-user list that this setup worked nicely. Has anything changed since then? Gian Piero
Re: kbabel?
Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > you can drop them on ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/incoming and I'll drop them > in place for others if you want. OK. They are there. I found little time and fixed other packages I made as well. So, there is ... KBabel - http://i18n.kde.org/tools/kbabel/index.html Kaptain - http://www.hszk.bme.hu/~tz124/kaptain/ Kcpuload - http://kde.quakenet.eu.org/kcpuload.shtml Knetload - http://kde.quakenet.eu.org/knetload.shtml Koncd - http://www.koncd.de regards, -- Hasso Tepper KDE Estonian Team
Re: Unable to create io-slave: unknown protocol file
No, I don't have a partial woody. But the dist-upgrade was some time ago. Maybe I should do one again, are the perl 5.6 problems solved? As far as I know, the perl problems are woody-only, so a dist-upgrade from stable shouldn't introduce this problem. The thing that is really weird, is that it worked as soon I reverted from kernel-2.4.0-test12 to kernel-2.2.17. The packages for kde 2.0.1 were working flawlessly with the 2.4.0-testXX kernel series. I'm not a programmer and don't know a whole lot about io-slave processes, but I do know the the 2.4 series of kernels has a completely different IP stack system. This might be the root of your problem. I know when I did a dist-upgrade on a gateway PC from slink to potato and it killed all the network stuff because it didn't update the kernel, or didn't update the packages, I'm not sure which. I just replaced the system with SmoothWall which is far superior to what I had put together myself. I'd recommend going back to the 2.4 series kernel. it should be ready for release any year now : ). Cheers, John Gay
Re: Unable to create io-slave: unknown protocol file
Am Sunday 17 December 2000 13:27 schrieb Ivan E. Moore II: > > No, I don't have a partial woody. But the dist-upgrade was some time > > ago. Maybe I should do one again, are the perl 5.6 problems solved? > > I'm not even suggesting you upgrade to woody. :) > > All I was saying is the person who was having the problem had a mixed > woody/ potato install. > > but yes, you should make sure you have the latest packages (potato if your > running potato) > > > The thing that is really weird, is that it worked as soon I reverted from > > kernel-2.4.0-test12 to kernel-2.2.17. > > The packages for kde 2.0.1 were working flawlessly with the 2.4.0-testXX > > kernel series. > > weird...I run 2.4.0-testxx on all my machines... No, I'm already running woody, XFree4 was the driving force to do a dist-upgrade in October :) I'll do a dist-upgrade again, maybe it is an weird issue with glibc2.2. Btw: Thanks for providing KDE packages. Great work! WfG, Chris
Re: Unable to create io-slave: unknown protocol file
> No, I don't have a partial woody. But the dist-upgrade was some time > ago. Maybe I should do one again, are the perl 5.6 problems solved? I'm not even suggesting you upgrade to woody. :) All I was saying is the person who was having the problem had a mixed woody/ potato install. but yes, you should make sure you have the latest packages (potato if your running potato) > The thing that is really weird, is that it worked as soon I reverted from > kernel-2.4.0-test12 to kernel-2.2.17. > The packages for kde 2.0.1 were working flawlessly with the 2.4.0-testXX > kernel series. weird...I run 2.4.0-testxx on all my machines... -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Unable to create io-slave: unknown protocol file
Am Sunday 17 December 2000 02:07 schrieb Ivan E. Moore II: > On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 03:27:38PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The latest kdebase (2.1) packages I tried the one from 13.12.2000 and > > 14.12.2000 seem to be broken. Klauncher is unable to start any io-slave > > and complains about not finding any mime-type on startup. > > > > In the kde mailinglist archive David Faure suggested to run kbuildsycoca. > > Running kbuildsycoca from within the kde2 script helped against the > > mime-type errors, but not against the unability to find slaves. > > > > There is already a bug report about this problem on woody, so I think > > I'm not alone. > > that bug report is for a system that is part potato and part woody. > > The problem is that I have not seen any problems like this so far...and > unless you have a part potato and part woody install then all we have so > far is 2 unique instances that are similar. > > Ivan No, I don't have a partial woody. But the dist-upgrade was some time ago. Maybe I should do one again, are the perl 5.6 problems solved? The thing that is really weird, is that it worked as soon I reverted from kernel-2.4.0-test12 to kernel-2.2.17. The packages for kde 2.0.1 were working flawlessly with the 2.4.0-testXX kernel series. WfG, Chris
Re: kde 2.1beta1
> will kde.tdyc.com provide kde2.1beta1 packages or do i have to compile them > by myself ? you don't read this list do you? -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
kde 2.1beta1
will kde.tdyc.com provide kde2.1beta1 packages or do i have to compile them by myself ? greets philipp
Re: kbabel?
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 07:05:42PM +0200, Hasso Tepper wrote: > Pablo de Vicente wrote: > > Do you have any plan to debianize "kbabel"?. If so, it could go in > > kdebase-dev since it is a tool to help on the translation of PO files. > > I made package for myself. I haven't time to work with it at the moment > (or to become Debian mainatiner or ...). Maybe after exams in January. > > OK. I put two packages up. Kbabel and kcpuload. No lintian errors any more > ;-). Thanks Ivan, templates are really helpful! > > Packages are for potato. If someone wants start to maintain these > packages, feel free. I just haven't time :(. Thank you to both of you, Hasso and Ivan. I wish I had more time to learn how to debianize programs. Ummm, I will try to get some time in the near future. Indeed I would need to do that for other programs related to my job. regards, Pablo.
Re: Konqueror with Netscape Plugins and SSL Won't Work
Hello, On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Netscape plugins are being recognized by Konqueror. Also, SSL isn't > working for me (although I just read on an archive list message that I > may just need to install kdelibs3-crypto). Can anyone help? Maybe I You gave the answer yourself. Install the crypto libs. And you've got to install kdebase-crypto also. Greetz, Jo
startupsounds
Hello, is there any way to turn off these startupsounds in kde? It looks like a stupid question. I turned them of in the control panel, but kde keeps playing these sounds. When i delete the wave-files, i can't start any application anymore under kde. As temporary solution, i made empty wav's. It seems to be working, but is there a cleaner solution? Greetz, Jo
Re: Brahms for Debian?
> Thanks for the quick answer! I'll have to get my sound working again and give > Brahms a good try. If it is everything I think it is, I'll wipe both my hard > drives and do a fresh install of Potato with KDE2 and arts and Brahms! At the > moment I've got a slink system upgraded to potato with KDE1 and a bunch of > misculanious stuff I've grabbed along the way. A fresh install should clean > out > the cobwebs and I can correct the mistakes I've made along the way as well. well it's there now...I have no clue if it works...I just grabbed the woody stuff and built it...I haven't even tried to run it. :) Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Brahms for Debian?
KEWL! Thanks for the quick answer! I'll have to get my sound working again and give Brahms a good try. If it is everything I think it is, I'll wipe both my hard drives and do a fresh install of Potato with KDE2 and arts and Brahms! At the moment I've got a slink system upgraded to potato with KDE1 and a bunch of misculanious stuff I've grabbed along the way. A fresh install should clean out the cobwebs and I can correct the mistakes I've made along the way as well. Thank again for the quick reply and keep up the good work of providing KDE for those of us too timid for the bleeding edge! Cheers, John Gay
Re: Brahms for Debian?
> So, if someone is working on a Brahms .deb package, what is the progress? If > not, could I interest someone in getting started? I'd love to try it myself, > but > I'm still new to Linux and Debian and have just started a programming course, > so > it's beyond my abilities. After all, if I can't get the sources to compile on > my > system, what hope have I got of making a .deb of it? > I see that brahms has been packaged for woody (ver 0.97.2)...I'll grab the sources and back port it for potato. > I've thought of changing to an rpm-based system, but my daughters PC is > Mandrake, and I can't get the brahms .rpm's to install on it either. switching to a rpm-based system just for a single outdated app is really scary. :) Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Brahms for Debian?
I first found Brahms on the old tdyc site, but then found out it was only available as an .rpm and not in .deb format. I went to the Brahms site, and it recommended arts, which in turn recommended mico. I got the mico sources and compiled it with the disable-stl as recommended by the arts site. Then I tried several times to compile arts, but it didn't recognise the mico libs. I eventually got ldconfig to set-up the mico libs properly and got arts to compile, but nothing I do will compile Brahms. Now that arts is available with KDE2 in .deb format, I was wondering if someone was working on Brahms? I very rarely use the NT partition any more, but still use it for NoteWorthy Composer. I find this to be quite a capable music tool that uses musical staves to enter the music rather than the other techniques used by other midi software. I have tried RoseGarden, but found that it crashed frequently, you can't set left/right levels for the staves and the instruments are listed as numbers and not instruments. Brahms seems to fill all my requirements for music, I just wish I could get it to work on my system. With this, I can finally wipe the NT partition from my system and have a M$-free PC! So, if someone is working on a Brahms .deb package, what is the progress? If not, could I interest someone in getting started? I'd love to try it myself, but I'm still new to Linux and Debian and have just started a programming course, so it's beyond my abilities. After all, if I can't get the sources to compile on my system, what hope have I got of making a .deb of it? I've thought of changing to an rpm-based system, but my daughters PC is Mandrake, and I can't get the brahms .rpm's to install on it either. I'm sure there are lots of people working on lots of KDE projects and I greatly appreciate their time and effort. This is just my small request for a package. Thank you all for your work. Cheers, John Gay
