Re: borderless? how?

2001-03-08 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls

Merci,

Did you look at Konsole? It also supports Transparency and I actually kind
of dig it :)

Open Konsole term, click on Settings/Schema/Transparent Konsole... Yahoo 

tatah

On Thursday 08 March 2001 15:05, Mark Livingstone wrote:
> Would anyone please let me know how i can make certain windows COMPLETELY
> borderless?
>
> Also.. i've installed ATERM for background transparency.. however, in shell
> i can't use backspace.. have to use ctrl+backspace to erase.. would ayone
> know how to fix that?
>
> merci

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kde.debian.net and mirroring

2001-03-08 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Ok...well my friend who's hosting kde.tdyc.com/kde.debian.net has put
in his notice and is leaving the job...and thus the box has to find a new
home.  So this leaves a few options...

the site is mirrored out to several sites now so it's not like it's a big
hit to everyone..just means people will have to change their sources file
and point to a mirror.

So...I'm not sure exactly where I"m going to shove the box yet...I can
host the files at one place..but it can't be publically accessable...I might
be able to allow mirrors to hit it tho...I'm trying to research this.

The other option is that one of the mirror sites would volunteer to become
the master site.  This would require allowing myself and Rick Cook access
to the box to upload and manage the files we upload.

I'm not sure how much longer the box will be around...probably at least till
sometime next week.  I'm working on getting the rest of my updates uploaded
then I'll mirror it off to my backup site...and ISO's will also be made
during that time.

so the data is not getting lost...it just may be on hold. :)

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Re: New Developments

2001-03-08 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:31:09PM -0500, Robert Tilley wrote:
> I greatly appreciate the members of this list that have written to me and 
> help redirect my search for knowledge.  Too often I "shotgun post" in an 
> attempt to gain knowledge.
> 
> How can I set up my sources.list so that I can apt-get the latest version of 
> KDE?  I was perusing bugs.kde.org earlier today and saw how many bugs had 
> been fixed already.  How can I assure myself that I am using the bleeding 
> edge version of KDE?

If your talking potato then take a look at http://kde.debian.net/

It won't be bleeding edge..but it's close.  

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New Developments

2001-03-08 Thread Robert Tilley
I greatly appreciate the members of this list that have written to me and 
help redirect my search for knowledge.  Too often I "shotgun post" in an 
attempt to gain knowledge.

How can I set up my sources.list so that I can apt-get the latest version of 
KDE?  I was perusing bugs.kde.org earlier today and saw how many bugs had 
been fixed already.  How can I assure myself that I am using the bleeding 
edge version of KDE?
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KDE 2.1 loads but no apps will run

2001-03-08 Thread james bass
OK, here is what is happening now;
KDE 2.1 (potato) loads & runs but none of the applications on the task-bar 
will run. I do not get error message then but occasionally I will get:

"There was an error loading the module
The diagnostic is:"
And the top of the window says "KDE Control Module" I've tried everything 
that I can think of but I cannot figure it out.
Any ideas ??

-thanks
James



Re: KDE install failed, what should I do now?

2001-03-08 Thread Richard Klinda
> "Iv" == Ivan E Moore,  writes:


  Iv> On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 12:27:21AM +0100, Richard Klinda wrote:

  >> | ii  libqt2.2-dev   2.2.4-3Qt GUI development headers, static 
libraries

  Iv> well...you need to get rid of libqt2.2-dev for one thing.

It didn't help. :-(  The error messages are just the same.  Do you have
any other idea?

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more potato fixes

2001-03-08 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
ok...I'm in the process of uploading 2.3.0-final for i386...and there's updated
kdevelop and I'm working on an updated kdm package to fix the XBINDIR problem.

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Re: KDE install failed, what should I do now?

2001-03-08 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 12:27:21AM +0100, Richard Klinda wrote:
> > "Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> (Sorry for the late answer -- and thread breaking, but I'm not
> subscribed, I've found Ivan's answer in the archive.)
> 
> > one big question...
> > what version of libqt2 do you have installed?
> 
> , [ dpkg -l 'libqt*' ] --
> | un  libqt-dev   (no description available)
> | pn  libqt1g (no description available)
> | pn  libqt1g-dev (no description available)
> | ii  libqt2 2.3.0-beta1-3  Qt GUI Library (runtime version).
> | pn  libqt2-dev  (no description available)
> | un  libqt2-gl   (no description available)
> | pn  libqt2.1(no description available)
> | pn  libqt2.1-dev(no description available)
> | ii  libqt2.2   2.3.0-beta1-3  Qt GUI Library (Migration package).
> | ii  libqt2.2-dev   2.2.4-3Qt GUI development headers, static 
> libraries

well...you need to get rid of libqt2.2-dev for one thing.


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Re: KDE install failed, what should I do now?

2001-03-08 Thread Richard Klinda
> "Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

(Sorry for the late answer -- and thread breaking, but I'm not
subscribed, I've found Ivan's answer in the archive.)

> one big question...
> what version of libqt2 do you have installed?

, [ dpkg -l 'libqt*' ] --
| un  libqt-dev   (no description available)
| pn  libqt1g (no description available)
| pn  libqt1g-dev (no description available)
| ii  libqt2 2.3.0-beta1-3  Qt GUI Library (runtime version).
| pn  libqt2-dev  (no description available)
| un  libqt2-gl   (no description available)
| pn  libqt2.1(no description available)
| pn  libqt2.1-dev(no description available)
| ii  libqt2.2   2.3.0-beta1-3  Qt GUI Library (Migration package).
| ii  libqt2.2-dev   2.2.4-3Qt GUI development headers, static libraries
| un  libqt2.2-gl (no description available)
| un  libqt2.2-mt-de  (no description available)
`

Ivan, I hope this helps you (but I think doesn't :-().

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borderless? how?

2001-03-08 Thread Mark Livingstone
Would anyone please let me know how i can make certain windows COMPLETELY 
borderless? 

Also.. i've installed ATERM for background transparency.. however, in shell i 
can't use backspace.. have to use ctrl+backspace to erase.. would ayone know 
how 
to fix that?

merci




Re: Removing applets from them KPanel?

2001-03-08 Thread Earl F Hampton
On Tuesday 06 March 2001 21:40, Joseph Schlecht wrote:
> Hello,
>
> (frowning) Would someone kindly describe how to remove an applet, e.g.
> KNewsTicker, from the KPanel. Sadly, apart from killing the process, I
> cannot solve this puzzle.
>
> Thanks,
>
Right click on the bumpy stuff right next to the applet then select remove 
from the menu.

Earl F Hampton




Re: Konqueror Slowness and Bookmarks.xml Size

2001-03-08 Thread Christophe Prud'homme
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Le Mercredi 07 Mars 2001 09:42 pm, Robert Tilley a écrit :
  > When I first installed Debian and apt-getted KDE, I was impressed with
  > the speed of the applications especially Konqueror.
  >
  > That is the past.  I have been noticing that Konqueror has been opening
  > slower and slower almost every day.  I'm a major bookmark hounde and my
  > bookmark file is now about 950K in size, and I think that this is the
  > cause.
Wow how did you manage that?
almost 1M of bookmarks it is impressive

my bookmarks file is about 50K and it is running fine HOWEVER I guess that 
creating the menu entries in the bookmark
menu/toolbar in konqueror might not be optimized ! May be with big bookmark 
they should load folders on demand
and not all at once
for example that how it is done in the quick browser otherwise you end up with 
very slow interface !

may be you should try to redirect this to kde-bugs as a wish list or may be 
make a statement on kde mailing lists
like kde-devel or kde
it is not really related to debian-kde

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Re: Potato packages (was: Re: QT2.3 + XFree86 4.02 = AA out of the box?)

2001-03-08 Thread Pablo de Vicente
El Jue 08 Mar 2001 06:40, Ivan E. Moore II escribió:

> it's also amazing that so many people have put up with my crap over the
> past couple years..heh...


Well I think that demonstrates several facts:

- Debian is a very good distribution, with a well designed packaging system 
and a very good policy that are its strongest values

- KDE is a high quality desktop environment, powerfull and with many features.

- and last but not least, you have done an excellent job packaging KDE for 
Debian. I would say you have filled the need and wish of many people that did 
not want to renounce to neither Debian nor KDE. And you have filled that with 
a high quality work.

Many thanks,

Pablo de Vicente




Re: kdm: can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb"

2001-03-08 Thread Hubert Palme
> "O" == Oswald Buddenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 >> kdm[1965]: can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb" (err 2)
 >> 
 O> this was a packaging problem, that ivan fixed yesterday. so new packages
 O> will already work correctly.

This is my version:

ii  kdm   2.1.0-0.potato3   The K Desktop Manager

sorry...

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Re: new qt 2.3.0-final package for sid/unstable

2001-03-08 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
>   > that looks like a disk space problem...
> Well I have 200Mo of space
> and other packages were ok like
> Setting up libqt2-mt (2.3.0-final-1) ...
> 
> Setting up libqt2.2-gl (2.3.0-final-1) ...
> 
> Setting up libqutil1 (2.3.0-final-1) ...
> 
> may be something went wrong with the D/L or my dpkg has a problem
> Aah living on the bleeding edge

I asked other debian guys about it and the responses were disk space
or missing/currput tar/gzip...so it's somewhere in that realm...which
would include a bad dl

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Re: new qt 2.3.0-final package for sid/unstable

2001-03-08 Thread Christophe Prud'homme
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  > that looks like a disk space problem...
Well I have 200Mo of space
and other packages were ok like
Setting up libqt2-mt (2.3.0-final-1) ...

Setting up libqt2.2-gl (2.3.0-final-1) ...

Setting up libqutil1 (2.3.0-final-1) ...

may be something went wrong with the D/L or my dpkg has a problem
Aah living on the bleeding edge


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Re: KDE krapped out

2001-03-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag,  8. März 2001 15:29 schrieb James Bass:
> I made a mistake in my pasting of the error, here is the correct error:
>
> ksplash: error in loading shared libraries: libqt.so.2: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
> kdeinit: error in loading shared libraries: libqt.so.2: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
> knotify: error in loading shared libraries: libqt.so.2: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
> ksmserver: error in loading shared libraries: libqt.so.2: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory

probably the symbolic link is broken: try to make a new symbolic link (mine 
was broken, too, after upgrading to 2.1):
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   14 Feb 27 01:53 /usr/lib/libqt.so.2
-> libqt.so.2.3.0

(ldconfig should report the broken link).

HS




Re: new qt 2.3.0-final package for sid/unstable

2001-03-08 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> dpkg -i libqt2-gl_2.3.0-final-1_i386.deb
>  
> (Reading database ... 119843 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace libqt2-gl 2:2.3.0-beta1-3 (using 
> libqt2-gl_2.3.0-final-1_i386.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement libqt2-gl ...
> dpkg-deb (subprocess): eof in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in 
> copy: Success
> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2
> dpkg: error processing libqt2-gl_2.3.0-final-1_i386.deb (--install):
>  subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  libqt2-gl_2.3.0-final-1_i386.deb

that looks like a disk space problem...

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More KAB Problems

2001-03-08 Thread Robert Tilley
OK, I had just recovered from my earlier expostulations about the state of 
KAB when I realized there were more things to say.

I have entered the name of this list in KAB.  Then quit KAB and reopened it 
to verify that this list is in the address book.

When I click on the blue ellipsis to the right of the "To:" field, the 
address book (or KMail's interpretation of it) pops up with nothing in it.

It's beyond me.  I'd allow dragging of the e-mail address in KAB (at the 
bottom of the dialog) to the To field in KMail.  As far as I know, this isn't 
possible.  Someone please correct me.
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Re: KDE and testing

2001-03-08 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:54:16PM +0100, Thibaut Cousin wrote:
>   Ivan, you told us one or two days ago that those using testing should take 
> the KDE packages for woody, not those for potato.
>   You mean, take them from the package pool ?
>   The problem if I do that is that I have to point to unstable instead of 
> testing... is there another place I can make apt-get point to ? Testing is OK 
> for me, but I don't want unstable.

I mean take them however you feel comfortable taking them.  The latest
version of apt allows one to have multiple apt lines and pull from specific
pools...

aptget install kdebase/unstable

for example...(not sure if that's the exact command line...)

so that's one option,the other is to go and download the packages directly
out of the pool...my personal favorite is to run unstable..as it's far better
than testing.

Ivan


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Re: KDE krapped out

2001-03-08 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
well..then something got hosed as it's saying libqt2 isn't installed. try
reinstalling libqt2

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 09:29:05AM -0500, James Bass wrote:
> I made a mistake in my pasting of the error, here is the correct error:
> 
> ksplash: error in loading shared libraries: libqt.so.2: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
> kdeinit: error in loading shared libraries: libqt.so.2: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
> knotify: error in loading shared libraries: libqt.so.2: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
> ksmserver: error in loading shared libraries: libqt.so.2: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory 
> 
> -thanks to all
> James
> 
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, james bass wrote:
> 
> > When I left my system was fine now I get this error when trying to start 
> > KDE on my debian box, can anyone help:
> > 
> > ksplash: error in loading shared lit file: No such file or directory
> > kdeinit: error in loading shared lit file: No such file or directory
> > knotify: error in loading shared lit file: No such file or directory
> > ksmserver: error in loading shared ect file: No such file or directory
> > 
> > What did I do ??? I am very new to this so please be kind.
> > 
> > -thanks
> > James
> > 
> > 
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Re: new qt 2.3.0-final package for sid/unstable

2001-03-08 Thread Christophe Prud'homme
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Hi ivan

here are a few problems

dpkg -i libqt2-gl_2.3.0-final-1_i386.deb
 
(Reading database ... 119843 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libqt2-gl 2:2.3.0-beta1-3 (using 
libqt2-gl_2.3.0-final-1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libqt2-gl ...
dpkg-deb (subprocess): eof in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in 
copy: Success
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2
dpkg: error processing libqt2-gl_2.3.0-final-1_i386.deb (--install):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libqt2-gl_2.3.0-final-1_i386.deb

and the same for
dpkg -i kdelibs3_2.1.0-3_i386.deb
(Reading database ... 119843 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace kdelibs3 4:2.1.0-2 (using kdelibs3_2.1.0-3_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement kdelibs3 ...
dpkg-deb (subprocess): eof in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in 
copy: Success
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2
dpkg: error processing kdelibs3_2.1.0-3_i386.deb (--install):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 kdelibs3_2.1.0-3_i386.deb

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KAB Problems

2001-03-08 Thread Robert Tilley
Adding an entry to the KAB database is fairly intuitive with pop-up help but 
the process of adding or editing an e-mail address is not.

I add the debian-kde lists to KAB, enter the name through the Name tab.  I 
then switch to the Contact tab.  Finding I need to click on the Edit email 
address tab is fairly obvious but requiring me to click on a camoflauged 
square which is the same color as its surroundings and is only deleanated by 
a thin black line is most _non-obvious_.  Regardless of the inefficiency of 
the dialog design, I achieve my goal after a few days of thought.

Suggestions:  Add a title so that a newbie to the wonderful KDE 2.1 (like 
myself) can discern what to do in a glance.  The button row could read as 
follows:  "Add Address", "OK", "Apply" and "Cancel", then the other buttons 
on the side to manipulate the list.  Make the dialog a bit wider (some people 
actually do have "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"-type 
addresss) and every fits in quite nicely.

If you're offended by such non-geek dialog styling and prefer cryptic 
designs, go code a skinning module for KMail and create your own skin.

P.S.Yes, I know the programmers solution -- add a new button that calls the 

procedures called by that camoed button -- but I'm not intimate with
KMail source code.
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Objective Evidence Konqueror Slows With More Bookmarks

2001-03-08 Thread Robert Tilley
I did as a kind user suggested and moved my bookmarks.xml file then deleted
the original in the Konqueror folder.

Size of bookmarks.xml   Time to Open Konqueror (approximately)
-
6.5K3 seconds
951K11 seconds

I think some work needs to be done in this area.  I know I am not the only
web junkie on this list.  I've given bookmarks.xml a cursory examination with
an editor and know that it can be compressed easily, but even that is not an
answer.

What is it about Netscape (the only application I am really accustomed to)
that allows it to open quickly, regardless of bookmark file size?  It can't
be the simpler syntax of the file (HTML vs. XML) as the two are almost
identical in structure.  Any ideas?
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Re: kdm doesn't work

2001-03-08 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
> anyone has some suggestions?
> 
yes:
a) use fewer exclamation marks :)
b) run "kdm -debug 1" and look at the syslog (daemon.log)

hth

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KDE and testing

2001-03-08 Thread Thibaut Cousin
  Ivan, you told us one or two days ago that those using testing should take 
the KDE packages for woody, not those for potato.
  You mean, take them from the package pool ?
  The problem if I do that is that I have to point to unstable instead of 
testing... is there another place I can make apt-get point to ? Testing is OK 
for me, but I don't want unstable.

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Re: KDE 2.1 on DEBIAN vs SLACKWARE. see the difference? anyone?

2001-03-08 Thread Vlad
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:18:46PM +0100, Joaquim Ortega-Cerdà ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:
> El Jue 08 Mar 2001 17:07, Thibaut Cousin escribió:
> > Le Jeudi  8 Mars 2001 17:05, Vlad a écrit :
> > > I'm running X 4.0.2 and KDE 2.1 on slack and debian. Truetype fonts are
> > > recognized w/o a problem. Default installation gives me the following
> > > screens:
> > >
> > > http://www.winwood.net/~tmd/deb_kde.gif
> > > http://www.winwood.net/~tmd/slack_kde.gif
> > >
> > > fonts are _the same_ (helvetica and courier), however they look totally
> > > different on both distros. how come? how can i make deb's KDE look the
> > > same? :)
> >
> >   You seem to have anti-aliasing activated on Debian, which why it looks
> > much better, whereas it is not used on Slackware. There is, on kcontrol, an
> > option to activate/disactivate the use of AA. I think it is in the "Style"
> > module, but I'm not sure (I don't have it here).

> Moreover you are using different point sizes in the general font of KDE.

not really.. they size is the same. 

what i have in deb is AA? so THAT's what it is.. and i've been trying to figure 
out how enable it :)

> 
> Quim
> 
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kdm doesn't work

2001-03-08 Thread Uli Schinz
hi there!
i installes debian new (new hd.). everything is working fine,BUT:
kdm doesn't work. kde2 is working "fine". i edited the xinitrc (replaced 
twm & by kde2 &). the terminal (login) of must still be open. if i want to 
start kdm, nothing happens. xdm is working. anything else i working as well, 
i don't know, what the problem is?!?!?!?
anyone has some suggestions?
ULI




Re: KDE 2.1 on DEBIAN vs SLACKWARE. see the difference? anyone?

2001-03-08 Thread Joaquim Ortega-Cerdà
El Jue 08 Mar 2001 17:07, Thibaut Cousin escribió:
> Le Jeudi  8 Mars 2001 17:05, Vlad a écrit :
> > I'm running X 4.0.2 and KDE 2.1 on slack and debian. Truetype fonts are
> > recognized w/o a problem. Default installation gives me the following
> > screens:
> >
> > http://www.winwood.net/~tmd/deb_kde.gif
> > http://www.winwood.net/~tmd/slack_kde.gif
> >
> > fonts are _the same_ (helvetica and courier), however they look totally
> > different on both distros. how come? how can i make deb's KDE look the
> > same? :)
>
>   You seem to have anti-aliasing activated on Debian, which why it looks
> much better, whereas it is not used on Slackware. There is, on kcontrol, an
> option to activate/disactivate the use of AA. I think it is in the "Style"
> module, but I'm not sure (I don't have it here).
Moreover you are using different point sizes in the general font of KDE.

Quim




Re: KDE 2.1 on DEBIAN vs SLACKWARE. see the difference? anyone?

2001-03-08 Thread Thibaut Cousin
Le Jeudi  8 Mars 2001 17:05, Vlad a écrit :
> I'm running X 4.0.2 and KDE 2.1 on slack and debian. Truetype fonts are
> recognized w/o a problem. Default installation gives me the following
> screens:
>
> http://www.winwood.net/~tmd/deb_kde.gif
> http://www.winwood.net/~tmd/slack_kde.gif
>
> fonts are _the same_ (helvetica and courier), however they look totally
> different on both distros. how come? how can i make deb's KDE look the
> same? :)

  You seem to have anti-aliasing activated on Debian, which why it looks much 
better, whereas it is not used on Slackware. There is, on kcontrol, an option 
to activate/disactivate the use of AA. I think it is in the "Style" module, 
but I'm not sure (I don't have it here).

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Re: kdm: can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb"

2001-03-08 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
grrr...I thought I fixed that

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 09:05:14AM +0100, Radu Muschevici wrote:
> there seems to be a bug in kdm preventing it from reading 
> /etc/X11/kdm/Xresources* :
> 
> kdm[1965]: can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb" (err 2)
> 
> my system:
> Debian woody
> linux 2.2.18
> kdm 2.1.0-0.potato3
> xfree86-common 4.0.2-1
> xserver-svga 3.3.6-31
> 
> on another system at work with debian potato and pure Xfree 3.3.6, 
> this doesnt't show up.
> 
> Radu
> 
> 
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KDE 2.1 on DEBIAN vs SLACKWARE. see the difference? anyone?

2001-03-08 Thread Vlad
I'm running X 4.0.2 and KDE 2.1 on slack and debian. Truetype fonts are 
recognized w/o a problem. Default installation 
gives me the following screens:

http://www.winwood.net/~tmd/deb_kde.gif
http://www.winwood.net/~tmd/slack_kde.gif

fonts are _the same_ (helvetica and courier), however they look totally 
different on both distros. how come? how can i make 
deb's KDE look the same? :)

thanks in advance for any suggestions!




Re: KDE krapped out

2001-03-08 Thread James Bass
I made a mistake in my pasting of the error, here is the correct error:

ksplash: error in loading shared libraries: libqt.so.2: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
kdeinit: error in loading shared libraries: libqt.so.2: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
knotify: error in loading shared libraries: libqt.so.2: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
ksmserver: error in loading shared libraries: libqt.so.2: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory 

-thanks to all
James

On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, james bass wrote:

> When I left my system was fine now I get this error when trying to start 
> KDE on my debian box, can anyone help:
> 
> ksplash: error in loading shared lit file: No such file or directory
> kdeinit: error in loading shared lit file: No such file or directory
> knotify: error in loading shared lit file: No such file or directory
> ksmserver: error in loading shared ect file: No such file or directory
> 
> What did I do ??? I am very new to this so please be kind.
> 
> -thanks
> James
> 
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Re: new qt 2.3.0-final package for sid/unstable

2001-03-08 Thread Christian Mayrhuber
Am Thursday 08 March 2001 05:46 schrieb Ivan E. Moore II:
> Hi all...for those of you running sid/unstable and want to help test out
> the qt 2.3.0 (final) release as well as an updated kdelibs (kdebase will
> be updated as soon as a compile problem get's fixed) you can grab debs
> from http://people.debian.org/~rkrusty
>
> I'm putting them there as I do not want to upload a new QT package until
> the current one makes it into testing.
>
> so...those that can I'd appreciate the test...and post your comments here.
>
> Ivan

The experience is very good, the nasty konqueror url bar is gone and nothing 
has crashed so far. Much more stable than with the qt-beta, at least for me.
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Re: KDE2.1 for Progeny?

2001-03-08 Thread John Gay
On Thursday 08 March 2001 08:49, you wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:15:52 +,
>
> John Gay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > I've found the KDE2.0 currently available to be inadequit.
>
> You're not the first to complain about this, but i'm afraid
> nothing can be done about this yet. KDE isn't the only thing
> that' slightly out-of-date, but we're frozen right now so that
> can't be changed.
>
Well I took my chances. I tried installing Brahms from Ivan's KDE2.0 list, 
but this all but killed my KDE, as it loaded the new qt2.3 libs. This is a 
known issue that has received lots of discussion on the list. Now that my 
desktop was gone, I did an apt-get dist-upgrade with Ivan's source.list 
included. Thsi installed loads of stuff, and now I've got a brand new KDE2.1 
desktop back!!!

I've only just started using it, so I have no feedback at the moment, but 
I'll keep you posted. I do know that this fixes the problem with konqueror in 
Progeny not opening http. Other than that I'll just have to see how 
everything works out.

> We've always planned to do something Debian doesn't: provide an
> "updates" apt source to add updated packages to a stable system.
> Some of the first things to go into updates will likely be
> updated GNOME, KDE, and Mozilla packages.

I would recommend using Ivan's sources for the KDE updates, as I think they 
are very well packaged and Ivan has done an excellent job bringing everything 
together with the latest libs and tools.

Cheers,

John Gay




Re: https support in java (blackdown) for konqueror

2001-03-08 Thread Serge Robyns
On Thursday 08 March 2001 13:53, Christian Mayrhuber wrote:
> Am Thursday 08 March 2001 11:16 schrieb Serge Robyns:
> > I installed the jsse as explianed above and it seems to help.
> > Although I'm getting a different error message than before, I believe the
> > new message is caused by the software from the site.
> >
> > Java VM version: 1.3.0
> > Java VM vendor:  Blackdown Java-Linux Team
> > java.lang.ClassFormatError: fortisbank/install/Installer (Local variable
> > name has bad constant pool index) at
> > java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
> > at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:486)
> > at
> > java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:111)
> > at
> > org.kde.kjas.server.KJASAppletClassLoader.findClass(KJASAppletClassLoader
> >.j ava:289) at
> > org.kde.kjas.server.KJASAppletClassLoader.loadClass(KJASAppletClassLoader
> >.j ava:335) at
> > org.kde.kjas.server.KJASAppletStub$1.run(KJASAppletStub.java:82) at
> > java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
>
> Bad...
> I think this is a difference between java 1.1 and 1.2/1.3. I've had the
> same messages with sun 1.3.0, blackdown 1.3.0 and sun 1.3.1 beta1 on some
> applets with konqueror AND mozilla 0.8, so this seems to be a problem in
> the java .class files of the applet.
> The only way to fix this is to force Sun to get compatible with netscape's
> jvm (which will not happen) or to force your bank to make the applet work
> with netscape6/mozilla/konqueror.
> (The online banking applet of my bank doesn't work because of java
> compatibility issues, too)
> Java: Compile once for every java release or struggle everywhere...
>
> --
> wfg,
> chris

Thanks for all the help.  I guess I'm lost on this issue.  It is clear that 
Sun won't move.  And the bank is only focusing on the f*#?ing Microsoft IE.
I don't even get full support for Netscape on Linux.

This is a proof that monopoly is not helping the enduser but is keeping him 
as a hostage to make even more money.  Maybe one day we will be free 

Sincerly,
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Re: https support in java (blackdown) for konqueror

2001-03-08 Thread Christian Mayrhuber
Am Thursday 08 March 2001 11:16 schrieb Serge Robyns:
> I installed the jsse as explianed above and it seems to help.
> Although I'm getting a different error message than before, I believe the
> new message is caused by the software from the site.
>
> Java VM version: 1.3.0
> Java VM vendor:  Blackdown Java-Linux Team
> java.lang.ClassFormatError: fortisbank/install/Installer (Local variable
> name has bad constant pool index) at
> java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
>   at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:486)
>   at 
> java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:111)
>   at
> org.kde.kjas.server.KJASAppletClassLoader.findClass(KJASAppletClassLoader.j
>ava:289) at
> org.kde.kjas.server.KJASAppletClassLoader.loadClass(KJASAppletClassLoader.j
>ava:335) at org.kde.kjas.server.KJASAppletStub$1.run(KJASAppletStub.java:82)
> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

Bad...
I think this is a difference between java 1.1 and 1.2/1.3. I've had the same 
messages with sun 1.3.0, blackdown 1.3.0 and sun 1.3.1 beta1 on some applets
with konqueror AND mozilla 0.8, so this seems to be a problem in the java 
.class files of the applet.
The only way to fix this is to force Sun to get compatible with netscape's 
jvm (which will not happen) or to force your bank to make the applet work 
with netscape6/mozilla/konqueror.
(The online banking applet of my bank doesn't work because of java 
compatibility issues, too)
Java: Compile once for every java release or struggle everywhere...

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wfg,
chris




KDE krapped out

2001-03-08 Thread james bass
When I left my system was fine now I get this error when trying to start 
KDE on my debian box, can anyone help:

ksplash: error in loading shared lit file: No such file or directory
kdeinit: error in loading shared lit file: No such file or directory
knotify: error in loading shared lit file: No such file or directory
ksmserver: error in loading shared ect file: No such file or directory
What did I do ??? I am very new to this so please be kind.
-thanks
James



Re: kdm: can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb"

2001-03-08 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
> kdm[1965]: can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb" (err 2)
> 
this was a packaging problem, that ivan fixed yesterday. so new packages
will already work correctly.

best regards

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Re: https support in java (blackdown) for konqueror

2001-03-08 Thread Serge Robyns
On Wednesday 07 March 2001 22:54, Dylan Oliver wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 March 2001 13:34, Christian Mayrhuber wrote:
> > You need to download the Java Secure Socket Extensions from sun (
> > http://java.sun.com/products/jsse/ ) and copy the .jar files to
> > /usr/share/apps/kjava for system wide use of ssl in java, or to
> > .kde/share/apps/kjava for local use.
>
> I just figured this out myself, and it works to put them in
> /usr/lib/j2rel1.3/lib/ext if you're using Blackdown's j2rel1.3 debs.
>
> (deb
> ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian/potato
> non-free)

I installed the jsse as explianed above and it seems to help.
Although I'm getting a different error message than before, I believe the new 
message is caused by the software from the site.

Java VM version: 1.3.0
Java VM vendor:  Blackdown Java-Linux Team
java.lang.ClassFormatError: fortisbank/install/Installer (Local variable name 
has bad constant pool index)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:486)
at 
java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:111)
at 
org.kde.kjas.server.KJASAppletClassLoader.findClass(KJASAppletClassLoader.java:289)
at 
org.kde.kjas.server.KJASAppletClassLoader.loadClass(KJASAppletClassLoader.java:335)
at org.kde.kjas.server.KJASAppletStub$1.run(KJASAppletStub.java:82)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)


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Re: https support in java (blackdown) for konqueror

2001-03-08 Thread Serge Robyns



On Wednesday 07 March 2001 22:54, Dylan Oliver wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 March 2001 13:34, Christian Mayrhuber wrote:
> > You need to download the Java Secure Socket Extensions from sun (
> > http://java.sun.com/products/jsse/ ) and copy the .jar files to
> > /usr/share/apps/kjava for system wide use of ssl in java, or to
> > .kde/share/apps/kjava for local use.
>
> I just figured this out myself, and it works to put them in
> /usr/lib/j2rel1.3/lib/ext if you're using Blackdown's j2rel1.3 debs.
>
> (deb
> ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian/potato
> non-free)


I installed the jsse as explianed above and it seems to help.
Although I'm getting a different error message than before, I believe the new 
message is caused by the software from the site.  If someone knows a 
workaround, I'll apriciate.  This is the only thing for which I still need 
Netscape, otherwise I love Konqueror and the work done by everyone on it.

Sincerly,

Java VM version: 1.3.0
Java VM vendor:  Blackdown Java-Linux Team
java.lang.ClassFormatError: fortisbank/install/Installer (Local variable name 
has bad constant pool index)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:486)
 at 
java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:111)
 at 
org.kde.kjas.server.KJASAppletClassLoader.findClass(KJASAppletClassLoader.java:289)
 at 
org.kde.kjas.server.KJASAppletClassLoader.loadClass(KJASAppletClassLoader.java:335)
 at org.kde.kjas.server.KJASAppletStub$1.run(KJASAppletStub.java:82)
 at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)


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Re: New KDE Apps (inc quanta, kdbg)

2001-03-08 Thread Reinhard Borek
Thanks,
kdbg is now installed correctly. It works.

Unfortunately kdevelop still conflicts with kde-i18n-de and kde-i18n-eng.

On Wednesday 07 March 2001 17:22, Ben Burton wrote:
> Hi.. a number of KDE applications have now been either packaged or
> repackaged for potato users: kbear, kcpuload, kdbg, keuklid, knetload,
> kprof, quanta.
>
> Hopefully this answers the earlier request for quanta in potato.
>
> Also, to Reinhard Borek who wrote regarding kdbg, I have taken out version
> (>= 5.0) in the gdb recommendation.
>
> Thanks immensely to Jaye Inabnit who offered his machine for building on!
> :) Thanks also to Ivan for hosting the packages.
>
> Ben.

greetings, Reinhard
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Re: kdm: can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb"

2001-03-08 Thread Hubert Palme
> "Radu" == Radu Muschevici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Radu> there seems to be a bug in kdm preventing it from reading 
 Radu> /etc/X11/kdm/Xresources* :

 Radu> kdm[1965]: can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb" (err 2)

 Radu> my system:
 Radu> Debian woody
 Radu> linux 2.2.18
 Radu> kdm 2.1.0-0.potato3
 Radu> xfree86-common 4.0.2-1
 Radu> xserver-svga 3.3.6-31

 Radu> on another system at work with debian potato and pure Xfree 3.3.6, 
 Radu> this doesnt't show up.

Hmm... I have potato with Xfree 3.3.6 and the problem is still
there. Could it depnd on any local system setup?

By the way...
A bug of this kind has been reported to be fixed on Fri, 12 Jan 2001
in the KDE bug tracking system

(http://bugs.kde.org//db/10/10959.html)

Perhaps it reappeared (not necessarily in the Debian packaging
process)?

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kdm: can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb"

2001-03-08 Thread Radu Muschevici
there seems to be a bug in kdm preventing it from reading 
/etc/X11/kdm/Xresources* :

kdm[1965]: can't execute "XBINDIR/xrdb" (err 2)

my system:
Debian woody
linux 2.2.18
kdm 2.1.0-0.potato3
xfree86-common 4.0.2-1
xserver-svga 3.3.6-31

on another system at work with debian potato and pure Xfree 3.3.6, 
this doesnt't show up.

Radu