Re: here you go

2001-03-19 Thread Hubert Palme
 Ivan == Ivan E Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ivan updated libs/base packages now avail on kde.debian.net.
 Ivan have fun... /me runs out the door to go find some high speed bandwidth...

nslookup kde.debian.net
 Server:  ns.urz.uni-wuppertal.de
 Address:  132.195.20.13  


 Non-authoritative answer:
 Name:kde.tdyc.com
 Address:  128.196.207.26
 Aliases:  kde.debian.net

Hmm... As far as I understand the discussion, kde.tdyc.com is
down... ?? -- And indeed, it doesn't answer.

Where do I really find the packages?? Or do I have to wait until a new
location for a master server is found?

Many questions...

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Re: xdmcp with kdm

2001-03-19 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
 How to do xdmcp with kdm ?
 
exactly as with xdm. read the xdm man page.

 May be it's not possible.
 
it is.

i'm wondering, how many people will still ask these questions.
maybe, this should be put into the faq of this list.

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Re: xdmcp with kdm

2001-03-19 Thread Marc SCHAEFER
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, RENAULT Laurent wrote:

 How to do xdmcp with kdm ?
 May be it's not possible.

Maybe by configuration of /etc/X11/kdm/Xservers (for forced entries), or
/etc/X11/kdm/Xaccess ?




Re: xdmcp with kdm

2001-03-19 Thread Ilya Martynov
 MS == Marc SCHAEFER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

MS On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, RENAULT Laurent wrote:
 How to do xdmcp with kdm ?
 May be it's not possible.

MS Maybe by configuration of /etc/X11/kdm/Xservers (for forced
MS entries), or /etc/X11/kdm/Xaccess ?

AFAIK kdm uses by default /etc/X11/xdm directory for config files. kdm
has exactly same configs as xdm.

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Re: xdmcp with kdm

2001-03-19 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
  How to do xdmcp with kdm ?
  May be it's not possible.
 
 Maybe by configuration of /etc/X11/kdm/Xservers (for forced entries),
 
that has nothing to do with xdmcp.

 or /etc/X11/kdm/Xaccess ?
 
this actually has something to do with it.
but first make sure, that you enabled xdmcp at all (no 'requestPort: 0'
in xdm-config).

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Re: xdmcp with kdm

2001-03-19 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
 AFAIK kdm uses by default /etc/X11/xdm directory for config files.

no, under debian it's /etc/X11/kdm.

 kdm has exactly same configs as xdm.
 
actually, it supports more. :-)
but this is irrelevant at this point ...

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on upgrading to testing

2001-03-19 Thread rob

James D. Freels writes:

  1) bite the bullet and upgrade to 'testing' and install the kde 2.1
  packages that have anti-aliasing capability compiled in, or

I came to the belief one debian release ago that the best place to be
was as close as possible to the majority of the developers.  This
explains the following:

# cat /etc/debian_version
testing/unstable
#

  I really would rather go with option 1.  My only concern is the
  stability, etc.  What has been the experience of those who are now
  running 'testing' ??

There have been some issues.  Bugs crop up.  I can't remember the last
bug which actually caused me grief.  I think it must have been the
libfreetype6 one for AA fonts in KDE.  But I have been running non-AA
KDE for months now.  I am currently having a problem with xlibs not
getting installed, but it isn't hosing my system.

I think (hope?) that the days of broken bash, and no more /dev are
over.  I will only use Debian unstable from now on.  Any other Debian
becomes more and more unmaintained as time passes.  I can't deal with
that.  This is my work laptop, and even though it _must_ work all the
time, I am quite fine with testing/unstable.

rob





Re: xdmcp with kdm

2001-03-19 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 06:45:44PM +0300, Ilya Martynov wrote:
  MS == Marc SCHAEFER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 MS On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, RENAULT Laurent wrote:
  How to do xdmcp with kdm ?
  May be it's not possible.
 
 MS Maybe by configuration of /etc/X11/kdm/Xservers (for forced
 MS entries), or /etc/X11/kdm/Xaccess ?
 
 AFAIK kdm uses by default /etc/X11/xdm directory for config files. kdm
 has exactly same configs as xdm.
 

if it does then I hosed something..it should use /etc/X11/kdm for it's config
files.

Ivan




pilot/visor integration with kde

2001-03-19 Thread David Bishop
Having just recieved a Handspring Visor for graduation, I was of course eager 
to try it out with linux :-)  However, there seems to be a slight derth of 
information on how to integrate a palm-like device with KDE.  Most sections 
of the manual that have to do with syncing a visor with 
[korganizer|abbrowser|kab] have the ever popular This Section Isn't Here 
Yet.  So, what is your collective experience with the different apps out 
there?  KPilot seems to be buggy, in that it always trys to start up two 
copies, and will only sync once before I have to close it and start it up 
again.  That also limits it usefullness in transfering programs/ebooks over 
to the visor.  Oh, and if I leave kpilot-daemon running in the background, it 
continually respawns (will never shut down the window).  However, it has 
conduits to korganizer for the to-do list and the appointments.  j-pilot 
seems to be much more stable and featureful, however, it's a gtk app (looks 
ugly), doesn't have conduits to korganizer or anyother kde app for that 
matter, and has it's own set of issues.  I'd really hate to have to use 
pilot-xfer for stuff that should be easy click-install.  

Whew.  Didn't mean for that to turn into a rant, and I'm impressed with how 
far along this stuff has come already.  However (you saw that coming, didn't 
you?) does anyone have experience with all of these issues, and if so, can 
you point me to a place where I can get an app that (hopefully, doesn't need 
to do all of this):

1. Runs in the background and monitors for me pushing the hotsync button
2. Has conduits to korganizer and abbrowser or kab (which is better 
supported?)
3. Isn't crash happy
4. Is a kde app 
5. Makes it really easy to install new stuff

And while this isn't the appropriate forum, has anyone heard tale of adding 
functionality in konqueror to recognize .prb and .prc files, and load them 
automatically after being clicked (with confirmation, of course)?  It would 
take a kpart's thingamajig from kpilot, but should be doable.  If there has 
already been noise about that, I will wait patiently, otherwise I'll file a 
wishlist bug.

Thanks for any ideas/insight you have.  If this is too off-topic for 
debian-kde, please reply to me off-list.  Thank you!

D.A.Bishop

P.S. I'm running sid, if that affects my options for programs. Thanks again.




Re: pilot/visor integration with kde

2001-03-19 Thread John Gay
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, David Bishop wrote:
 Having just recieved a Handspring Visor for graduation, I was of course eager 
 to try it out with linux :-)  However, there seems to be a slight derth of 
 information on how to integrate a palm-like device with KDE.  Most sections 
 of the manual that have to do with syncing a visor with 
 [korganizer|abbrowser|kab] have the ever popular This Section Isn't Here 
 Yet.  So, what is your collective experience with the different apps out 
 there?  KPilot seems to be buggy, in that it always trys to start up two 
 copies, and will only sync once before I have to close it and start it up 
 again.  That also limits it usefullness in transfering programs/ebooks over 
 to the visor.  Oh, and if I leave kpilot-daemon running in the background, it 
 continually respawns (will never shut down the window).  However, it has 
 conduits to korganizer for the to-do list and the appointments.  j-pilot 
 seems to be much more stable and featureful, however, it's a gtk app (looks 
 ugly), doesn't have conduits to korganizer or anyother kde app for that 
 matter, and has it's own set of issues.  I'd really hate to have to use 
 pilot-xfer for stuff that should be easy click-install.  
 
 Whew.  Didn't mean for that to turn into a rant, and I'm impressed with how 
 far along this stuff has come already.  However (you saw that coming, didn't 
 you?) does anyone have experience with all of these issues, and if so, can 
 you point me to a place where I can get an app that (hopefully, doesn't need 
 to do all of this):
 
 1. Runs in the background and monitors for me pushing the hotsync button

kpilot will run in the background and listen for the hotsync button, but if
you're using USB, when the module unloads, the deamon looses contact.

I've got kpilot working this way for my daughter Palm Pro with a serial cradle.
I don't believe that it can work with USB. You will need to use a serial cradle
for your visor if you want kpilot to work in this mode.

I use jpilot for my Visor because it DOES reconise teh USB port that comes and
goes. I jsut need to press the hotsync button and then sync on jpilot.

  2. Has conduits to
korganizer and abbrowser or kab (which is better   supported?)

Don't know much about setting up conduits, sorry.

 3. Isn't crash happy

I've never seen jpilot crash, but I've only used it for a few weeks. As for
kpilot, I only just set it up for my daughter last night, so I have little
experience with it.

 4. Is a kde app 
 5. Makes it really easy to install new stuff
 
jpilot has a fairly easy install tool built-in. It works for me.

 And while this isn't the appropriate forum, has anyone heard tale of adding 
 functionality in konqueror to recognize .prb and .prc files, and load them 
 automatically after being clicked (with confirmation, of course)?  It would 
 take a kpart's thingamajig from kpilot, but should be doable.  If there has 
 already been noise about that, I will wait patiently, otherwise I'll file a 
 wishlist bug.
 
 Thanks for any ideas/insight you have.  If this is too off-topic for 
 debian-kde, please reply to me off-list.  Thank you!
 
 D.A.Bishop
 
 P.S. I'm running sid, if that affects my options for programs. Thanks again.
 
That's all I know. I'll let you know if I find out different. Everyone feel
free to correct me.

Cheers,

John Gay

 
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Re: on upgrading to testing

2001-03-19 Thread Michael K. Neylon
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 10:31:25PM -0500, James D. Freels wrote:
 The main reason I am considering going with the unstable version is to
 get the AA fonts in KDE 2.1.  I did a apt-get -d install kde-base
 after enabling the unstable tree and hitting an apt-get update.
 What I found was most of the development packages as I expected like
 libc, gcc, etc.  However, there also was the perl packages which have
 been reported as very buggy.  I can't deal with that.  What is the
 status of these packages now.

Perl, at least with daily updates on sid/unstable, is at 5.6.0-21, and
AFAIK, it's as stable as you can ask for.  You might have to reinstall
any non-standard modules depending on where you start your upgrade
from, but with cpan this is easy as pie.

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Re: xdmcp with kdm

2001-03-19 Thread Philippe A . Bouchard
On Monday 19 March 2001 15:55, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
   How to do xdmcp with kdm ?
   May be it's not possible.
 
  Maybe by configuration of /etc/X11/kdm/Xservers (for forced entries),

 that has nothing to do with xdmcp.

  or /etc/X11/kdm/Xaccess ?

 this actually has something to do with it.
 but first make sure, that you enabled xdmcp at all (no 'requestPort: 0'
 in xdm-config).

 greetings

I know the chooser is not working at all under KDE. Someone should take a 
look at this.




Re: anyone having problems with noatun?

2001-03-19 Thread Mircea Luca
Tim Kelley wrote:
 
 I'm running the ltest KDE2.1 with potato.
 
 Lately (I can't remember after which update) whenever I try to play a file
 accosiated with kde media player (noatun) my cpu goes straight to 100% and
 nothing else happens.  I've tried playing files from the terminal to see if
 anything useful ... I get this:
 
 noatun ./blah.mpg
 

on my system,playing an mp3 works fine, 8% CPU time but I haven't
updated since
2.1 went final,so it's not kde related I'd say.(I don't have any mpg on
my system)
I'll update tonight and see  what gives.




Re: xdmcp with kdm

2001-03-19 Thread Scott E . Graves
On Monday 19 March 2001 17:35, Philippe A. Bouchard wrote:
 On Monday 19 March 2001 15:55, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
How to do xdmcp with kdm ?
May be it's not possible.
  
   Maybe by configuration of /etc/X11/kdm/Xservers (for forced entries),
 
  that has nothing to do with xdmcp.
 
   or /etc/X11/kdm/Xaccess ?
 
  this actually has something to do with it.
  but first make sure, that you enabled xdmcp at all (no 'requestPort: 0'
  in xdm-config).
 
  greetings

 I know the chooser is not working at all under KDE. Someone should take a
 look at this.

The chooser works when you issue an indirect query:

X -indirect hostname :1

You also need to modify /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess or /etc/X11/kdm/Xaccess 
(depending on the dist.) to allow indirect and direct queries and enable the 
chooser. This must be done on all hosts which you would like to remotely 
access.

*   --- For direct/broadcast queries (allow ALL hosts)
*   CHOOSER BROADCAST  -- For indirect queries (allow ALL hosts)


Also, make sure you do not have a line in /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config or 
/etc/X11/kdm/xdm-config which reads:

DisplayManager.*.authorize:true


Either remove this line or change it to false. Setting this to false will 
allow hosts to connect to any display, other than :0. MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 
authentication is disabled.

Broadcasts are sent out on the network when the X Display Manager is loaded. 
In turn, each host contains a dynamic list of all available hosts. An 
indirect query to ANY host allowing indirect queries, even localhost, will 
display all currently available X clients in the chooser.

The Xservers config file only starts local X servers and is not used for 
remote client connections.

Scott




Re: here you go

2001-03-19 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
  Ivan updated libs/base packages now avail on kde.debian.net.
  Ivan have fun... /me runs out the door to go find some high speed 
 bandwidth...
 
 nslookup kde.debian.net
  Server:  ns.urz.uni-wuppertal.de
  Address:  132.195.20.13  
 
 
  Non-authoritative answer:
  Name:kde.tdyc.com
  Address:  128.196.207.26
  Aliases:  kde.debian.net
 
 Hmm... As far as I understand the discussion, kde.tdyc.com is
 down... ?? -- And indeed, it doesn't answer.
 
 Where do I really find the packages?? Or do I have to wait until a new
 location for a master server is found?

your dns server has outdated information

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stupid, but I have to ask it - how to start it up once installed

2001-03-19 Thread Whit
Okay, by going to archives for this list I found the clues on how to run the
automated kde install on a fresh potato with no desktop manager set up yet.
Really impressed by how smoothly that ran compared to trying to use rpms on
Red Hat. (Suggestion: put a short mention of how to invoke the installation
in the debian.kde.net Webpages?) 

Yeah, so then I do a startx and I've got a kde terminal on my otherwise grey
screen rather than the default rxvt or whatever it was after getting XFree
up.

Umm, what's the totally obvious thing to do (if I'd ever set up Debian
before) to have the system bring up the full kde screen? (Suggestion: put a
short mention of this on the Webpages too and you'll about have the newbie
angle covered - providing the newbie has gotten past similar bits of mystery
in the initial potato install.)

 \/\/ I-I I T 
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Re: on upgrading to testing

2001-03-19 Thread rob

James D. Freels writes:

  expected like libc, gcc, etc.  However, there also was the perl
  packages which have been reported as very buggy.  I can't deal with
  that.  What is the status of these packages now.

I don't remember problems with perl.  Please refresh my memory.

I can also say that I have been impressed with how quickly 'big
problems' get fixed in Debian.  One of the big problems I remember
from at least six months ago which left things unusable was actually
fixed with an upload by someone other than the package maintainer.  So
I have been happy with the response when there is a serious problem.

I know that this following statement may be faulty in a logical sort
of fashion, but I get more feel goods by doing the 'dist-upgrade'
only every so often, every three days or so.

rob