Font Size
I'm running Potato here with XFree86 v3.3.6-11 and KDE 2.1.1. KDE itself seems to be fine, but what I'm having a problem with is non-KDE X applications (e.g., ical and grip). In particular the font size seems to be too big and I can't seem to find a way to adjust this within KDE's own control mechanisms. How might I correct this? -- -- Michael | mfaurot | "Cogito ergo I'm right and you're wrong." -- Blair Faurot | atww.org | Houghton
Re: konqeror bugs of note *stable*
> Have found the following bugs still present in konq: > > SSL support not functioning > https://money.bankamerica.com/cgi-bin/cob/1YlXjtbiPDfjNjqfCRowEQO5v8uU0rS_W8Zkryv918403/2/bofa/ibd/COB/presentation/GotoLobby > > This is a secure bank account site not accessible via konq, but nutscrape > does fine. (This, of course uses password control) what do you mean not accessable? I can get to that url with no problem...or are you saying you can't log in? > Double downloads are again required to save any currently rendered > images, > ie. if you decide to save a picture off a webpage it slowly re-downloads the > entire image to save it. and this I can't reproduce either. Unless your talking about from a https (SSL enabled) site...in that case it better not cache that...if it does I'll be upset. > Did the latest updates at 5 pm 4/5/2001 PST. this don't tell me anything sorry... That update could have been from source forge and thus 2 months old... I need version numbers of packages...are you using potato or unstable...if potato are you mixing packages..etc... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Kloan - a Mortgage/Loan calculator
Hello all, This is an announcement of Kloan, a package I created for KDE (and debian). From the README file: Kloan is a Qt application originally packaged for Debian. It began life many years ago as a console based program written in Pascal. Over the years, it has had several GUI interfaces and has changed languages to C and now C++. and from the debian/control file: Description: Qt based Mortgage/Loan Financial Calculator with Amortization schedule It provides a Loan Calculator and Amortization Schedule Generator. Eventually, you may select fixed or variable rate loans. Now you may select between monthly, bi-weekly, or weekly repayment schedules. You may also save the Amortization Schedule to a file It can be found at: http://www.ntlug.org/~rcook/packages/kloan At this moment, only Debian source and binary-powerpc packages are available. A Debian binary-i386 package should arrive some time tomorrow. Kloan is already a useful package, but I consider it "beta" for now. There are a couple of features I want to add. Also, when you enter information, you must hit carriage return (all lineedits currently use the "returnPressed" signal). It should be fairly self explanatory (tooltips for the lineedits are the documentation). It is also "American English" centric. Please send me any feedback you may have. Enjoy, Rick Cook -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
konqeror bugs of note *stable*
Ivan, Have found the following bugs still present in konq: SSL support not functioning https://money.bankamerica.com/cgi-bin/cob/1YlXjtbiPDfjNjqfCRowEQO5v8uU0rS_W8Zkryv918403/2/bofa/ibd/COB/presentation/GotoLobby This is a secure bank account site not accessible via konq, but nutscrape does fine. (This, of course uses password control) Double downloads are again required to save any currently rendered images, ie. if you decide to save a picture off a webpage it slowly re-downloads the entire image to save it. Did the latest updates at 5 pm 4/5/2001 PST. Thanks -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls/TELE: USA-707-442-6579\/A GNU-Debian linux user Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145 If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Support freedom!
Re: new packages
On Apr 05 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > I was asked by theKompany to create packages for them along with > Kapital (a comercial product). So if you decide to go purchase > Kapital from them in the future there will be Debian packages to > make your installation life easier. It is really nice to see that there are companies writing software for Linux. Much better is to know that these companies are targetting Debian as one of their supported platforms. Congratulations both to theKompany and Ivan! May that be a good source of income and to also prove the feasibility of selling software for Linux. []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Konqueror and Secure pages
Maybe you should try to install the kdebase-crypto package. I think with that, you should be set... Guillermo - Original Message - From: "Shawn Garbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: Konqueror and Secure pages > I couldn't browse a secure website under Konqueror that I just installed > 2.1.1. > The web site mentions on kde mentions needing an OpenSSL installed. > > Which Debian package should I grab for this? Where do I get it? I looked > for such in the sid distro of Debian and couldn't find it. > > Shawn Garbett > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Knetload not displaying
> Anyone have success running knetload on Sid? I run it and I can see the > process via "ps -ef | grep knetload" but it's not visible on the taskbar. > Any ideas??? It won't show up on your taskbar but it should show up in the system tray as a pair of graphs (one for input, one for output). I presume it's not showing up there either? It works fine on my system. Are you doing anything unusual like putting your system tray on external panel extensions, anything like that? If you start knetload at the command line does it give any error messages? Are you running kcpuload (which uses almost identical code)? Does it show up in the system tray? Ben. -- Ben Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Director of Training Australian Informatics Olympiad Committee Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same. - Oscar Wilde
Re: true type fonts
On Thursday 05 April 2001 14:21, Rogerio Brito wrote: > As far as I understand, anti-aliasing only works with scalable > fonts in general and true type fonts in particular. This I can > understand and is acceptable. > > What *is* a problem in my eyes, though is that if you enable > anti-aliasing, then your KDE/qt applications won't be able to > use non-scalable fonts. :-( Agreed, a-a shouldn't be an either or proposition. If scalable fonts are present, it should use them, if not fall back to non-scalable. Choice is good! :-)
Knetload not displaying
Hello, Anyone have success running knetload on Sid? I run it and I can see the process via "ps -ef | grep knetload" but it's not visible on the taskbar. Any ideas??? Scott
Re: Struggling to set up a development environment
> However, with debian storing the libraries in different places, and > (maybe) kmail latest CVS needing I am not sure where to start. huh? why does debian store the libraries in different places? [...] > If I try and build kdenetwork (with kdelibs failing to build but with > kdelibs(3?)-dev installed) it fails saying it can't locate kdmcodec.h > whilst trying to compile dict.cpp in the kdict subirectory of > kdenetwork. Does this mean that the later versions of kmail need > updated libraries? > > What I want to do is set up the right development environment to build > this code up. But I just don't know where I have to break into the > cycle so that a base level of stuff is standard .debs (with all the > dependencies managed etc) and where I have to switch over to building > from tarballs or source. > > Can I have some simple advice as to where to start this process. simple advice: If youre going to try building anything out of CVS HEAD branch (ie what will become 2.2) you need to build and install kdelibs from the same branch first. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Struggling to set up a development environment
I have a full kde-debian setup based fundementally on woody, with the potato versions of kde downloaded from kde.debian.net. Utimately I would like to understand the source of KMail, so that I can make some changes to it to make it meet my requirements. Ideally what I would like to do is use kdevelop to set up a project with the source of kmail downloaded from the repository and firstly just read the code before building it, but ultimately to make changes to it which I think will achieve the functionality I want. However, with debian storing the libraries in different places, and (maybe) kmail latest CVS needing I am not sure where to start. I originally started with XFree 4.0.3 (initially by removing xfree using dselect)- but when I found there were two many dependancies on it I tried leaving 4.0.2 in place and just building the new source over the top. However kdm wouldn't start (much as other people have posted for other reasons). So I gave up that idea and went back to version 4.0.2 loaded from the woody .debs. Then I thought I would build QT from the source up. However, I wanted to keep an operational kde to work with, so just tryed to build a QT ourside of the current setup (in /usr/local). This failed, presumable because it was looking at the wrong libqt, because during creation of the examples it failed complaining that a number of routines were missing (can't remember them all, but one was something like FT_Init_Freetype which of coure should have been in libfreetype6-dev package which is installed). Having failed there, I ensured package libqt-dev wa installed and used cvsup to get latest development source - downloading modules kde-common, kdelibs and kdenetwork. If I try and build kdelibs it fails during the compilation ftp.cc in directory kio/ftp - complaining about a type mismatch in the qapplication.h header file. No idea what this is other than thinking I am getting some form of mismatch between the kdelibs-dev already installed If I try and build kdenetwork (with kdelibs failing to build but with kdelibs(3?)-dev installed) it fails saying it can't locate kdmcodec.h whilst trying to compile dict.cpp in the kdict subirectory of kdenetwork. Does this mean that the later versions of kmail need updated libraries? What I want to do is set up the right development environment to build this code up. But I just don't know where I have to break into the cycle so that a base level of stuff is standard .debs (with all the dependencies managed etc) and where I have to switch over to building from tarballs or source. Can I have some simple advice as to where to start this process. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.chandler.u-net.com http://www.chandler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
Re: Great Work!
El Mar 03 Abr 2001 17:35, Rogerio Brito escribió: >[...] > The size of recent programs is getting so much bigger that it > is often the case where one can't use newer software with the > same hardware that one used to use. > > It would be nice if it were possible to cut the corners and > just build smaller versions of these programs for computers > with low profile. :-( Maybe you want to try Opera. It runs almost wonderful in my pentium 133 with 38 MB of RAM. It takes very few seconds to start and I think is a little bit faster than Netscape and Konqueror. Konqueror (from KDE 2.0) is the slowest of the three, and it's almost unusable in my computer. There's a deb package for potato in http://www.opera.com/download/linux.html -- Ricardo Villalba [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/rvmsoft
Re: task-kde only marginally useful
> Too bad there is no task-kdebase, task-kdemultimedia... > (runs for cover ;) grrr. Be my guest and package them. Anyone is more that able to create new packages for Debian and take the heat from other developers for helping implement more and more cruft. > Isn't there a command line tool that lets you grab fields out of the > dpkg DB, so you could generate a list of packages that include (say) > kdelibs3 in the Depends: line... or does it only work with > /var/lib/dpkg/status and not available, or does apt's *cache.bin need > to get involved and no one has worked on it? apt-cache? Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
new packages
Aethera 0.9.1 and libkore(0/-dev) have been uploaded for both potato (available now) and unstable. I was asked by theKompany to create packages for them along with Kapital (a comercial product). So if you decide to go purchase Kapital from them in the future there will be Debian packages to make your installation life easier. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: true type fonts
On Apr 05 2001, Brian Schramm wrote: > What does anti-aliasing have to do with true type fonts? I thought > that if you got the font server working then everything else would > work. As far as I understand, anti-aliasing only works with scalable fonts in general and true type fonts in particular. This I can understand and is acceptable. What *is* a problem in my eyes, though is that if you enable anti-aliasing, then your KDE/qt applications won't be able to use non-scalable fonts. :-( []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: task-kde only marginally useful
Too bad there is no task-kdebase, task-kdemultimedia... (runs for cover ;) Isn't there a command line tool that lets you grab fields out of the dpkg DB, so you could generate a list of packages that include (say) kdelibs3 in the Depends: line... or does it only work with /var/lib/dpkg/status and not available, or does apt's *cache.bin need to get involved and no one has worked on it? - Bruce -- On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > Look at the Depends line for task-kde. > > On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 04:17:54PM -0400, Yom, Francis wrote: > > I know. So what packages do I need to install to have something similar > > to a full KDE install. > > > > From: Ivan E. Moore II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > there is no all inclusive KDE package.
Re: task-kde only marginally useful
Look at the Depends line for task-kde. Ivan On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 04:17:54PM -0400, Yom, Francis wrote: > I know. So what packages do I need to install to have something similar > to a full KDE install. > > Thanks, > Francis > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ivan E. Moore II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:01 PM > > To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: task-kde only marginally useful > > > > > > > I have a question related to this topic. What packages > > should I install > > > in order to have the full install of KDE if I don't want to use > > > task-kde. > > > > there is no all inclusive KDE package. > > > > -- > > > > Ivan E. Moore II > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://snowcrash.tdyc.com > > GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD > > GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
RE: task-kde only marginally useful
I know. So what packages do I need to install to have something similar to a full KDE install. Thanks, Francis > -Original Message- > From: Ivan E. Moore II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:01 PM > To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: task-kde only marginally useful > > > > I have a question related to this topic. What packages > should I install > > in order to have the full install of KDE if I don't want to use > > task-kde. > > there is no all inclusive KDE package. > > -- > > Ivan E. Moore II > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://snowcrash.tdyc.com > GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD > GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: true type fonts
On Thursday 05 April 2001 09:38 pm, Brian Schramm wrote: > What does anti-aliasing have to do with true type fonts? I thought that if > you got the font server working then everything else would work. Apparently anti-aliasing only works with TrueType and Type1 fonts. Here's what I did to get anti-aliasing to work on a woody-system, xfree4.0.2 with the most recent kde2.1.1 packages left over from the time when my system was still potato: a) Install Xfree 4.0.2 b) deinstall xfstt c) install a few truetype fonts into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ d) added the following line to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/truetype" (in Section "Files") The freetype module is loaded automagically in the XF86Config-4 coming with woody nowadays. e) Went stark-raving mad, since kde seemed to find only the few Type1 fonts, I had. f) got on ppl's nerves on IRC g) finally got a hint: in /etc/X11/XftConfig there needs to be a line: dir "/usr/share/fonts/truetype" h) Yippiiie - fonts in QT-Apps are now anti-aliased. Hope this clarifies a few things :) cya, Volker -- It is not best to swap horses while crossing the river. -- Abraham Lincoln
Re: task-kde only marginally useful
> I have a question related to this topic. What packages should I install > in order to have the full install of KDE if I don't want to use > task-kde. there is no all inclusive KDE package. -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
RE: task-kde only marginally useful
Hi, I have a question related to this topic. What packages should I install in order to have the full install of KDE if I don't want to use task-kde. Thanks! Francis > -Original Message- > From: Bruce Sass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:15 PM > To: Ivan E. Moore II > Cc: debian-kde@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: task-kde only marginally useful > > > On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > <...> > > The task packages are a poor hack to solve a problem. They > don't work > > properly and are a big waste of space. the Packages file > is big enough as > > it is then to add versions to every package that task-kde > depends on? > > I would not notice another K or two (hundred, even). > > > > I realize this kind of behaviour would only be useful (visible) to > > > unstable users... but isn't that where it is needed (so > one can track > > > unstable-KDE without tracking all of unstable), and wouldn't that > > > result in more potential beta testers for the packages > (by virtue of > > > lowering the bar to tracking unstable-KDE). > > > > I understand your needs...however I'm not looking at > task-kde being a solution > > for upgrades as it's just not going to work that way and > I'm not going to > > spend the time needed and take the heet from other > developers just to take > > care of this. I'm focusing on release and getting > everything to a point where > > a new users can do a apt-get install task-kde or use > tasksel and install a > > stock system with kde. > > Ok. Thanks for your time, Ivan. > > I guess I'll need to look at writing an "upgrade-task" prog that > tries to install everything a task depends on (and recommends or > suggests items if they are already installed). > > > - Bruce > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: true type fonts
What does anti-aliasing have to do with true type fonts? I thought that if you got the font server working then everything else would work. Brian Doug Byfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thursday 05 April 2001 11:34, Shawn Garbett wrote: > > I've just got KDE 2.1.1 up and working. I keep here the buzz about > > TrueType fonts. > > > > deselect's only complaint is that xfs-tt is not configured properly. > > > > First off, how do I determine if my video card supports this. > > Go to the manufacturer's web site and ask if you don't see any info. So > far I have only hear that the ATI Radeon (my card) and one of the > nVidia cards support anti-aliasing. Also the docs for XF86 4.xx > > > Secondly, how do I configure it properly. > > Control Center/Look&Feel/Style and check the box for 'Use anti-aliasing > for fonts and icons.' > > > Third, where's a good source of true-type fonts to install. > > Try a search on true-type fonts at Google, Yahoo, etc. Microsoft has TT > fonts, but of course they are for use with Windows only, . > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Brian Schramm http://www.linuxexpert.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: true type fonts
On Thursday 05 April 2001 11:34, Shawn Garbett wrote: > I've just got KDE 2.1.1 up and working. I keep here the buzz about > TrueType fonts. > > deselect's only complaint is that xfs-tt is not configured properly. > > First off, how do I determine if my video card supports this. Go to the manufacturer's web site and ask if you don't see any info. So far I have only hear that the ATI Radeon (my card) and one of the nVidia cards support anti-aliasing. Also the docs for XF86 4.xx > Secondly, how do I configure it properly. Control Center/Look&Feel/Style and check the box for 'Use anti-aliasing for fonts and icons.' > Third, where's a good source of true-type fonts to install. Try a search on true-type fonts at Google, Yahoo, etc. Microsoft has TT fonts, but of course they are for use with Windows only, .
Re: task-kde only marginally useful
> > The task packages are a poor hack to solve a problem. They don't work > > properly and are a big waste of space. the Packages file is big enough as > > it is then to add versions to every package that task-kde depends on? > > I would not notice another K or two (hundred, even). *you* wouldn't...however believe me when I tell you there are others that would. And these are the same people who are already on the verge to yank task packages out of the distro until a better solution is in place. > Ok. Thanks for your time, Ivan. > > I guess I'll need to look at writing an "upgrade-task" prog that > tries to install everything a task depends on (and recommends or > suggests items if they are already installed). that would be cool. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: task-kde only marginally useful
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: <...> > The task packages are a poor hack to solve a problem. They don't work > properly and are a big waste of space. the Packages file is big enough as > it is then to add versions to every package that task-kde depends on? I would not notice another K or two (hundred, even). > > I realize this kind of behaviour would only be useful (visible) to > > unstable users... but isn't that where it is needed (so one can track > > unstable-KDE without tracking all of unstable), and wouldn't that > > result in more potential beta testers for the packages (by virtue of > > lowering the bar to tracking unstable-KDE). > > I understand your needs...however I'm not looking at task-kde being a solution > for upgrades as it's just not going to work that way and I'm not going to > spend the time needed and take the heet from other developers just to take > care of this. I'm focusing on release and getting everything to a point where > a new users can do a apt-get install task-kde or use tasksel and install a > stock system with kde. Ok. Thanks for your time, Ivan. I guess I'll need to look at writing an "upgrade-task" prog that tries to install everything a task depends on (and recommends or suggests items if they are already installed). - Bruce
Re: task-kde only marginally useful
> > > > > Shouldn't trying to install task-kde upgrade everything the task > > > > > depends on to the most recent versions? > > > > > > > > no. It is meant as a installation tool not a upgrade tool. > > > > > > Hmmm, no easy way to have the task depend on the most recent versions > > > of its components, or is it more complicated than that? > > > > heck no. It would require that task-kde be updated constantly with the > > latest versions of every package it refers to. > > right... not an easy thing to script? > (hmmm, could it be generalized into a "task manager" packaging tool) probably, but read below > > And beyond that it defeats > > the purpose of a task. > > How so? Installing the task would still get you everything, plus you > would get an upgrade if you already had the task installed. The task packages are a poor hack to solve a problem. They don't work properly and are a big waste of space. the Packages file is big enough as it is then to add versions to every package that task-kde depends on? > I realize this kind of behaviour would only be useful (visible) to > unstable users... but isn't that where it is needed (so one can track > unstable-KDE without tracking all of unstable), and wouldn't that > result in more potential beta testers for the packages (by virtue of > lowering the bar to tracking unstable-KDE). I understand your needs...however I'm not looking at task-kde being a solution for upgrades as it's just not going to work that way and I'm not going to spend the time needed and take the heet from other developers just to take care of this. I'm focusing on release and getting everything to a point where a new users can do a apt-get install task-kde or use tasksel and install a stock system with kde. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: task-kde only marginally useful
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 12:11:48PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > <...> > > > > Shouldn't trying to install task-kde upgrade everything the task > > > > depends on to the most recent versions? > > > > > > no. It is meant as a installation tool not a upgrade tool. > > > > Hmmm, no easy way to have the task depend on the most recent versions > > of its components, or is it more complicated than that? > > heck no. It would require that task-kde be updated constantly with the > latest versions of every package it refers to. right... not an easy thing to script? (hmmm, could it be generalized into a "task manager" packaging tool) > And beyond that it defeats > the purpose of a task. How so? Installing the task would still get you everything, plus you would get an upgrade if you already had the task installed. I realize this kind of behaviour would only be useful (visible) to unstable users... but isn't that where it is needed (so one can track unstable-KDE without tracking all of unstable), and wouldn't that result in more potential beta testers for the packages (by virtue of lowering the bar to tracking unstable-KDE). - Bruce
true type fonts
I've just got KDE 2.1.1 up and working. I keep here the buzz about TrueType fonts. deselect's only complaint is that xfs-tt is not configured properly. First off, how do I determine if my video card supports this. Secondly, how do I configure it properly. Third, where's a good source of true-type fonts to install.
Re: task-kde only marginally useful
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 12:11:48PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > <...> > > > Shouldn't trying to install task-kde upgrade everything the task > > > depends on to the most recent versions? > > > > no. It is meant as a installation tool not a upgrade tool. > > Hmmm, no easy way to have the task depend on the most recent versions > of its components, or is it more complicated than that? heck no. It would require that task-kde be updated constantly with the latest versions of every package it refers to. And beyond that it defeats the purpose of a task. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: task-kde only marginally useful
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: <...> > > Shouldn't trying to install task-kde upgrade everything the task > > depends on to the most recent versions? > > no. It is meant as a installation tool not a upgrade tool. Hmmm, no easy way to have the task depend on the most recent versions of its components, or is it more complicated than that? - Bruce
Re: task-kde only marginally useful
> The reason I am claiming task-kde is only marginally useful is becuse > doing "apt-get install task-kde" only got me task-kde... following up > with "...install kdelibs3" got me 6 more new pkgs, "...install > kdebase" got me another 7 packages... It looks like I need to > manually try to upgrade every package in the task to get an upgrade. > :/ > > Shouldn't trying to install task-kde upgrade everything the task > depends on to the most recent versions? no. It is meant as a installation tool not a upgrade tool. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: task-kde only marginally useful
small error... On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Bruce Sass wrote: > p.s. - I'm going from 4:2.1.1-2 to 4:2.1.1-3 The downloading was incomplete when I wrote that, I still had 4:2.1.0.1-5 kdebase related packages on the system. The only way to keep an up-to-date kde (without upgrading the whole system) is to handle each package individually... that just doesn't seem right. - Bruce
task-kde only marginally useful
[testing/unstable] The reason I am claiming task-kde is only marginally useful is becuse doing "apt-get install task-kde" only got me task-kde... following up with "...install kdelibs3" got me 6 more new pkgs, "...install kdebase" got me another 7 packages... It looks like I need to manually try to upgrade every package in the task to get an upgrade. :/ Shouldn't trying to install task-kde upgrade everything the task depends on to the most recent versions? - Bruce p.s. - I'm going from 4:2.1.1-2 to 4:2.1.1-3
I386 crypto libs in 2.2.1
Hi Ivan! I'm looking for the i386 2.2.1 kde*-crypto debs for potato on kde.debian.net. I found the source and the powerpc version, but none for i386. Thanks for all your work! - Christian
Re: [Re: KDE install on potato - still helpless newbie]
Well, I tried the apt-get install kdebase3 kdebase-libs version of your
suggestion: I got the same message at the end: broken packages...
Unfortunately I did not have time yet to get into dselect and try your second
advice, unfortunately I am away for two weeks, but after I am back I probably
will have new questions. I want to figure out this, I need KDE.
I just do not understand that I saw a couple of reviews about KDE2.1 install,
on potato. They just do apt-get install task-kde kdebase, and everything is
*happening*. My system is not tuned in any way, fresh potato install, so why I
get into all this dependencies (no matter what I put in my sources.list)? Or
everybody in this list already had these libraries installed? Or they also
tackled with this problem? The one thing I am trying to see is automatically
solving dependencies, that is why I was not satisfied with rpm and redhat.
As I said I did not give up on it, I still think that this is a lack of
knowing DEbian on my part.
Regards: Viktor (the helpless newbie)
"Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > apt is smart, but it also is smart enough not to make some decisions
for
> > > you. dselect forces the decision making whereas apt is designed to
make
> > > decisions for you. If it cannot make the decisions in a fashion it
> > > thinks is acceptable then it decides not to make the decision...which
is
> >
> > So if there is a choice of two packages which would satisfy dependencies
> > apt-get would give up and let the user decide. If that is what happened
> > above, then of course it's a good thing. I thought apt-get didn't know
> > where to get the two packages ("isn't going to be installed") and gave up
> > because of that.
>
> not completely..there just happens to be 3 or 4 different packages that
have
> choices...if it were one and the deps were decent it would figure it out...
> however with task-kde there are several choices it must make.
>
> Ivan
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Re: proxy auth
On Thursday 05 April 2001 04:00, Thierry Florac wrote: > "Ivan E. Moore II" a écrit : > > > > what version are you running. 2.1.1 did not fix the problem..it > > > > wasn't *supposidly* fixed until the other day. > > > > > > > > kdelibs (4:2.1.1-3) > > > > kdebase (4:2.1.1-3) > > > > > > > > Ivan > > > > > > Ack, sorry about that. I had no right to snap at you that way. My > > > apologies. However, since my program just crashed, I took the > > > opportunity to log out and back on again with the same result. Here's > > > a quick grep of what's on my system. > > > > > > ii kdelibs3 2.1.1-3KDE core libraries (runtime files) > > > ii kdebase2.1.1-3KDE core applications > > > ii kdebase-libs 2.1.1-3KDE libraries amd modules for kdebase > > > > hmmm...well unless someone else can vouch for it working I guess they > > didn't fix it. I don't have a proxy with authentication setup to test > > this. > > Hi, > > I currently use KDE-2.1.1 and a proxy with authentication, and : > - if I just enable proxy auth and specify and HTTP/FTP server/port, > authentication fails !! > But : > - if I put "user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the server name entry, > authentication is OK and transparent ;-)) > But : > - if I come back to this option configure dialog, "user:password@" has > disappeared in front of the server name and if I say OK in the dialog box, > authentication don't work anymore :-(( > > Hope this will help while waiting for a complete proxy authentication > support in Konqueror... > > Thierry > -- Wahooo! *hugs and kisses for Thierry* Thanks :-) (btw, it works ;) D.A.Bishop
Re: Re kdm loop
i meet ths problem too and i can't start X "by hand" from a console error are : kdeinit: klauncher: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/klauncher.so: un defined symbol: setDaemonMode__10DCOPClientb ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting! what's happen then? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Unfortunately not yet! > > Vittorio > > >Hi > > > I am very new in linux. I have "update" and "upgrade" using apt-get > > on a > > >regular basis. Two days ago I found that I could not log on using kdm, > > >the same problem as you have described in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just > > >wanted to ask you if you have solved this problem? > > >Cheers > > >Alain Blanchetot > > > > > > > > > > > - > > messaggio inviato con Freemail by superEva > http://www.supereva.it > > - > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! kdm loops
i have the same probleme of "vdemart" but don't use PAM ! Ax wrote: > > Dne èt 5. duben 2001 09:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a): > > < backaspace key used here :-) > > > > I start it, kdm asks for my login and password, then it is unable to start > > kde but pops up again asking again for login and password and so on. > > looks like problem with pam auth. > my /etc/pam.d/kde looks like this (on sid): > > #%PAM-1.0 > > auth required pam_unix.so shadow nullok > auth required pam_nologin.so > auth required pam_env.so > accountrequired pam_unix.so > sessionrequired pam_unix.so > password required pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5 > > and yours? > > > kdm[683]: Display :0 is being disabled (exit frequency too high) > > What should I do? > > P.S. take into account that startx works ok! > ...and starts kde session, i suppose. > > Ax > -- > >Vaclav Hula >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > UIN#36624092 http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~ax > > There's long way from statue to liberty... > [Hobit - Ants] > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: proxy auth
"Ivan E. Moore II" a écrit : > > > what version are you running. 2.1.1 did not fix the problem..it wasn't > > > *supposidly* fixed until the other day. > > > > > > kdelibs (4:2.1.1-3) > > > kdebase (4:2.1.1-3) > > > > > > Ivan > > > > Ack, sorry about that. I had no right to snap at you that way. My > > apologies. > > However, since my program just crashed, I took the opportunity to log out > > and back on again with the same result. Here's a quick grep of what's on my > > system. > > > > ii kdelibs3 2.1.1-3KDE core libraries (runtime files) > > ii kdebase2.1.1-3KDE core applications > > ii kdebase-libs 2.1.1-3KDE libraries amd modules for kdebase > > hmmm...well unless someone else can vouch for it working I guess they didn't > fix > it. I don't have a proxy with authentication setup to test this. Hi, I currently use KDE-2.1.1 and a proxy with authentication, and : - if I just enable proxy auth and specify and HTTP/FTP server/port, authentication fails !! But : - if I put "user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the server name entry, authentication is OK and transparent ;-)) But : - if I come back to this option configure dialog, "user:password@" has disappeared in front of the server name and if I say OK in the dialog box, authentication don't work anymore :-(( Hope this will help while waiting for a complete proxy authentication support in Konqueror... Thierry -- === http://gpc.sourceforge.net === begin:vcard n:FLORAC;Thierry tel;fax:01 40 19 59 85 tel;work:01 40 19 59 64 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Office National des Forêts;Département Informatique (DGA-I) adr:;;;PARIS;;;France version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] fn:Thierry FLORAC end:vcard smime.p7s Description: Signature cryptographique S/MIME
Re: Help! kdm loops
Dne čt 5. duben 2001 09:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a): < backaspace key used here :-) > > I start it, kdm asks for my login and password, then it is unable to start > kde but pops up again asking again for login and password and so on. looks like problem with pam auth. my /etc/pam.d/kde looks like this (on sid): #%PAM-1.0 auth required pam_unix.so shadow nullok auth required pam_nologin.so auth required pam_env.so accountrequired pam_unix.so sessionrequired pam_unix.so password required pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5 and yours? > kdm[683]: Display :0 is being disabled (exit frequency too high) > What should I do? > P.S. take into account that startx works ok! ...and starts kde session, i suppose. Ax -- Vaclav Hula [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN#36624092 http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~ax There's long way from statue to liberty... [Hobit - Ants]
Help! kdm loops
I've already asked this list about my problem. No help at the moment! In a nutshell: I've copied through NFS and "cp -a directories" a complete potato 2.2 +kde2 installation from my laptop to my desktop. After a bit tweaking to make the new installation work now it goes all ok but kdm. When I start it, kdm asks for my login and password, then it is unable to start kde but pops up again asking again for login and password and so on. Following someone's advice here in the list, I had a look to /var/log/syslog and daemon.log. Both the daemon.log and syslog reports the same poor message when I start kdm (kdm start -debug 1): kdm[683]: Display :0 is being disabled (exit frequency too high) What should I do? P.S. take into account that startx works ok! Ciao Vittorio - messaggio inviato con Freemail by superEva http://www.supereva.it -
Re kdm loop
Unfortunately not yet! Vittorio >Hi > I am very new in linux. I have "update" and "upgrade" using apt-get on > a >regular basis. Two days ago I found that I could not log on using kdm, >the same problem as you have described in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just >wanted to ask you if you have solved this problem? >Cheers >Alain Blanchetot > > > - messaggio inviato con Freemail by superEva http://www.supereva.it -
Re kdm loop
Unfortunately not yet! Vittorio >Hi > I am very new in linux. I have "update" and "upgrade" using apt-get on > a >regular basis. Two days ago I found that I could not log on using kdm, >the same problem as you have described in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just >wanted to ask you if you have solved this problem? >Cheers >Alain Blanchetot > > > - messaggio inviato con Freemail by superEva http://www.supereva.it -
Re: proxy auth
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:43:22PM -0500, Rick Cook wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 April 2001 21:33, Rick Cook wrote:
> >
> > I have had no problems with proxy authentication for the last several weeks
> > with the i386 version (I can't test proxy authentication from my powerpc).
> > There was a week or two period (during 2.1-beta something timeframe I
> > think) that proxy authentication did not work.
> >
> > I will say that the configuration I have at work does not have any proxy
> > information defined ("Use Proxy" is not selected).
> >
>
> Now that I re-read this, it does not seem very clear...
>
> On my i386 system at work, proxy authentication works even though I have "Use
> Proxy" turned off.
it's probably being handled differently since it's being done transparantly...
either way, upstream has recognized the problem and has provided a fix which
I have applied. I built new debs which I'll be uploading... (kdelibs)
Ivan
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