Re: Howto set LANG for KDE
Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > > On Wednesdayen den 25 April 2001 17:33, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: > > > So my question is: How do I set LANG globally for KDE. > > My experience is that if I set lang, debian stops working. > I have tried LANG=sv_SE and LANG=sv, and even setting the > individual LC_XXX environment variables. It gives various > interesting results, but all gives a non-working system. Even > 'ls' aborts with an error message. I'm purely guessing here, but could it be, that those locales are not actually there? See /etc/locale.gen for what I mean. HTH, Viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/
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"Cleaning" filesystems (was: Re: buglets: kdebase and kdm 2.1.1-7 in sid)
On Apr 26 2001, G. L. `Griz' Inabnit wrote: > 1. Would I be a rude ass to ask for a "clean-up" script? > (e.g. throughout a number of changes, updates, etc files were > created, used, discarded, left, but no deleted.) There is a package called "cruft" that compares the contents of your system with the things that dpkg has in its database. Files generated dynamically during postinst's don't appear in the dpkg database, so these may be false alarms, but, anyway, I think that cruft is at least a good way to find which files shuldn't be there in the first place. And oh, please, do contribute the reports of bugs back to packagers. Let's be part of the QA of Debian. Hope this helps, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: KOffice 1.1 Beta1
Ben Burton wrote: Hi Ben, > Hi. The new KOffice packages have finally hit incoming. They may still be a > few days to reach the FTP archives because of the new package (well, reborn > package) kformula. I'll ensure that http://www.koffice.org/install-binaries.phtml is updated. Can I assume that they'll be available from kde.debian.net, and where? Sorry, I can't find any mention of this. What flavours of Debian are the binaries avaialbe for (e.g. potatos, testing, etc) Cheers, -- Chris Howells E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 93699029 Web: http://www.chowells.uklinux.net
Re: buglets: kdebase and kdm 2.1.1-7 in sid
> > like I said...if there are files outside of /home that still remain and > > shouldn't it's a packaging problem and should be reported. > > Your fault to mention it :) Should all be stuff that survid the KDE 1 -> KDE > 2 > upgrade. > I keep putting off that whole kde1 -> kde2 stuff... :) -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Howto set LANG for KDE
On Friday 27 April 2001 10:08, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > On Wednesdayen den 25 April 2001 17:33, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: > > > > So my question is: How do I set LANG globally for KDE. > > My experience is that if I set lang, debian stops working. > I have tried LANG=sv_SE and LANG=sv, and even setting the > individual LC_XXX environment variables. It gives various > interesting results, but all gives a non-working system. Even > 'ls' aborts with an error message. > > Maybe something is misconfigured on my system, but I really can't > figure out what. I have libc6-2.2.4 and locales-2.2.4. I also > have not been able to figure out how to successfully set locale > to any other language than the default with LANG=POSIX. > > On the other hand, kde works good in setting its language to > Swedish, and that I did by changing the language setting within > kde. All menus and texts are in Swedish, where they have been > translated. I don't know what setting LANG would improve on the > situation, except for making none-kde applications crash. > > In any case, the following shows one interesting effect of > changing 'LANG': > > [/u/home/pgd (5)]$ export LANG=sv_SE > [/u/home/pgd (5)]$ ls > ??? ?0?0?0??? > ??0? > ??? ??? > ??? ?? > ? > ? ??? ?? > ??? ? > ? ??? > ?? ?? Works fine here. What the output of locale -a? E.g., on potato: ds02(0) ~/tmp > locale -a | grep sv sv sv_FI sv_SE ds02(0) ~/tmp > LANG=sv_SE.ISO8859-1 ls does-not-exists ls: does-not-exists: Filen eller katalogen finns inte ds02(1) ~/tmp > LANG=sv_SE.ISO8859-1 ls ~/.bash* /home/ach/.bash_history /home/ach/.bash_profile /home/ach/.bash_logout /home/ach/.bashrc ds02(0) ~/tmp > LANG=sv_SE ls ~/.bash* /home/ach/.bash_history /home/ach/.bash_profile /home/ach/.bash_logout /home/ach/.bashrc ds02(0) ~/tmp > LANG=sv ls ~/.bash* /home/ach/.bash_history /home/ach/.bash_profile /home/ach/.bash_logout /home/ach/.bashrc ds02(0) ~/tmp > env | grep ^L[AC] LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1 Achim > > -- Karolina > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto set LANG for KDE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm no longer member of that list, but I found a good solution to this problem, so I'm giving it you... in fact I found it in other Linux distributions (Debian is the only one I know that does not use this). In /etc/Xsession, change the first line : #!/bin/sh by : #!/bin/bash --login It is the only way I found that worked all the time with all apps. Of course you have to logout-login in order for this to be taken in account. Sheers, - -- Thibaut Cousin email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://clrwww.in2p3.fr -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE66UXcv1vqsTa1E4oRAlrAAKC8tZ7cDbPEJi1L6F+ifCW2z/WykgCcDSzO 3LlDaYViJPg8vCfoCrofPoA= =CRjK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: buglets: kdebase and kdm 2.1.1-7 in sid
On Friday 27 April 2001 10:42, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 10:32:25AM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > > 1. Would I be a rude ass to ask for a "clean-up" script? > > > > (e.g. throughout a number of changes, updates, etc files were > > > > created, used, discarded, left, but no deleted.) > > > > > > well...there should be nothing outside of /home...if there is that is a > > > packaging bug (or even rarely a upstream bug) which needs to be > > > reported... > > > > > it's not that simple - at least i think so. unproven theory: > > config files are not removed, unless you set a package on "purge". > > upgrading (of course) does not include purging, so the config files > > remain. if you then purge the upgraded package, the configs, which were > > part of the earlier version but not of the later one, will stay there. > > does this make sense or is dpkg more clever? > > > like I said...if there are files outside of /home that still remain and > shouldn't it's a packaging problem and should be reported. Your fault to mention it :) Should all be stuff that survid the KDE 1 -> KDE 2 upgrade. Achim ds02(1) ~/tmp > l /etc/kde total 47 -rw-r--r--1 root root 577 Apr 26 2000 charsets -rw-r--r--1 root root 98 Apr 26 2000 desktop -rw-r--r--1 root root 27 Apr 26 2000 desktop0rc -rw-r--r--1 root root 27 Apr 26 2000 desktop1rc -rw-r--r--1 root root 27 Apr 26 2000 desktop2rc -rw-r--r--1 root root 27 Apr 26 2000 desktop3rc -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Sep 11 2000 desktop4rc -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Sep 11 2000 desktop5rc -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Sep 11 2000 desktop6rc -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Sep 11 2000 desktop7rc -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Sep 11 2000 kcmdisplayrc -rw-r--r--1 root root14759 Apr 26 2000 kcmlocalerc -rw-r--r--1 root root 587 Apr 26 2000 kdebug.areas -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Sep 11 2000 kdisplayrc -rw---1 root root 673 Oct 17 2000 kdmrc -rw-r--r--1 root root 345 Apr 26 2000 kfmrc -rw-r--r--1 root root 488 Apr 26 2000 kikbdrc -rw-r--r--1 root root 740 Apr 26 2000 kpanelrc -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Sep 11 2000 kssrc -rw-r--r--1 root root19357 Apr 26 2000 magic Achim > > Ivan > > > -- > > Ivan E. Moore II > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://snowcrash.tdyc.com > GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD > GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kdelibs-dev uninstallable ... docbook-utils
> After this, I just wrote a very custom jw script, since I could > not get jw from docbook-utils to work together with kdb2html. At > the end of this letter is my jw script, which is capable of > converting the kde docbook files to html, but probably nothing > else (It's a fast hack, so don't ask me what of it is actually > needed) (beware of the extra linebreak in the jade command line > put in by the line wrapping code of kmail). hmm...kdb2html works great for me if I have docbook-utils installed... however nothing directly uses it so it's not even important right now. All of the 2.2 stuff is straight forward docbook. kdb2html is no longer needed. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Howto set LANG for KDE
On Wednesdayen den 25 April 2001 17:33, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
> So my question is: How do I set LANG globally for KDE.
My experience is that if I set lang, debian stops working.
I have tried LANG=sv_SE and LANG=sv, and even setting the
individual LC_XXX environment variables. It gives various
interesting results, but all gives a non-working system. Even
'ls' aborts with an error message.
Maybe something is misconfigured on my system, but I really can't
figure out what. I have libc6-2.2.4 and locales-2.2.4. I also
have not been able to figure out how to successfully set locale
to any other language than the default with LANG=POSIX.
On the other hand, kde works good in setting its language to
Swedish, and that I did by changing the language setting within
kde. All menus and texts are in Swedish, where they have been
translated. I don't know what setting LANG would improve on the
situation, except for making none-kde applications crash.
In any case, the following shows one interesting effect of
changing 'LANG':
[/u/home/pgd (5)]$ export LANG=sv_SE
[/u/home/pgd (5)]$ ls
??? ?0?0?0???
??0?
??? ???
??? ??
?
? ??? ??
??? ?
? ???
?? ??
-- Karolina
Re: kdelibs-dev uninstallable ... docbook-utils
On Mondayen den 23 April 2001 23:08, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: >c) The current kdb2html in kdelibs requires docbook-utils I struggled with jade, a while ago, since I compile kde from CVS. It once worked for me, but somehow it stopped working, and then kde changed. The solution for me was to ignore all help about how to install jade for debian and kde, and just install the straight .deb files for jade. I think it is: jade docbook docbook-styles and whatever they depend on, at least that's what I have installed. docbook-dtd31 should not be installed since it is included in the above debian files. After this, I just wrote a very custom jw script, since I could not get jw from docbook-utils to work together with kdb2html. At the end of this letter is my jw script, which is capable of converting the kde docbook files to html, but probably nothing else (It's a fast hack, so don't ask me what of it is actually needed) (beware of the extra linebreak in the jade command line put in by the line wrapping code of kmail). -- Karolina #! /bin/sh # Jade Wrapper SGML_EXTRA_CATALOGS="" while [ $# -gt 0 ] do case $1 in -c|--cat) if [ -n $SGML_EXTRA_CATALOGS ]; then SGML_EXTRA_CATALOGS=$2 else SGML_EXTRA_CATALOGS=$SGML_EXTRA_CATALOGS:$2 fi shift 2 ;; -d|--dsl) SGML_STYLESHEET=$2 shift 2 ;; *)SGML_FILE=$1 shift 1 ;; esac done jade -c /etc/sgml/catalog -c $SGML_EXTRA_CATALOGS -t sgml -d $SGML_STYLESHEET $SGML_FILE SGML_RETURN=$? if [ $SGML_RETURN -gt 0 ] then exit `expr 7 + $SGML_RETURN` fi echo "Done." exit 0
Re: Keeping kdm while starting gnome
> I would like to be able to start gnome as well occasionally, from > the kdm menu. > K -> Preferences -> System -> Login Manager -> Sessions enter the name of the gnome executable in the "New type" line and click "Add new". > I have no idea how to start gnome from the console either... > that could be a problem ... try starting a failsave session and there try "gnome", "gnome-session", "gnome-windowmanager", etc. - i don't know exactly. hth best regards -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool.
Re: buglets: kdebase and kdm 2.1.1-7 in sid
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 10:32:25AM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > 1. Would I be a rude ass to ask for a "clean-up" script? > > > (e.g. throughout a number of changes, updates, etc files were > > > created, used, discarded, left, but no deleted.) > > > > well...there should be nothing outside of /home...if there is that is a > > packaging bug (or even rarely a upstream bug) which needs to be reported... > > > it's not that simple - at least i think so. unproven theory: > config files are not removed, unless you set a package on "purge". > upgrading (of course) does not include purging, so the config files > remain. if you then purge the upgraded package, the configs, which were > part of the earlier version but not of the later one, will stay there. > does this make sense or is dpkg more clever? like I said...if there are files outside of /home that still remain and shouldn't it's a packaging problem and should be reported. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kde logout
> If there is a log file that I can check out to provide more info, > pls tell me where. > anything that x apps output to stderr/stdout is logged in ~/.xsession-errors (unless they run from a terminal, but that's another story). hth best regards -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool.
Re: buglets: kdebase and kdm 2.1.1-7 in sid
> > 1. Would I be a rude ass to ask for a "clean-up" script? > > (e.g. throughout a number of changes, updates, etc files were > > created, used, discarded, left, but no deleted.) > > well...there should be nothing outside of /home...if there is that is a > packaging bug (or even rarely a upstream bug) which needs to be reported... > it's not that simple - at least i think so. unproven theory: config files are not removed, unless you set a package on "purge". upgrading (of course) does not include purging, so the config files remain. if you then purge the upgraded package, the configs, which were part of the earlier version but not of the later one, will stay there. does this make sense or is dpkg more clever? best regards -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool.
Keeping kdm while starting gnome
Hi All, I have stable potato, with Ivan's KDE. I also have ximian-gnome 1.4 installed, but I did not install gdm, because it conflicts with kdm. I would like to be able to start gnome as well occasionally, from the kdm menu. How can I edit the kdm start menu, and what to put in there to be able to start ximian gnome? (the latter is not kde question, but someone might know, I have no idea how to start gnome from the console either...)
Re: koffice?
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 11:34:20PM -0500, Rick Cook wrote: > On Thursday 26 April 2001 23:10, Rick Cook wrote: > > > > I'll speak for Ivan... > > > > That is entirely too bold a statement I made. In case anyone got the wrong hehehehe... -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: koffice?
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 11:50:52PM -0500, Ben Burton wrote: > > > The first "version switched" koffice package, I attempted to do the same > > thing. I ended up with strange things like each package having all the > > manpages, some missing library dependencies, and maybe some other things. > > Ivan then "took a look at it" and (I think) created the current i386 > > packages on kde.debian.net. > > Aah. These problems will be because I'm using debhelper 3 functionality in > the sid/woody packages. as are all of the kde packages I'm doing now. We are definatly at that point where it takes work to backport things...as it is now in order to do KDE 2.2 packages for potato it would require more backports of other non kde packages such as libprce or whatever that package is... I'm not even sure about all the docbook and xml xslt stuff that would need to be back ported. This isn't to say that when 2.2 is released and woody isn't (which is most likely what is going to happen) I'm not going to spend the time to backport what is needed. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
