building from CVS

2001-05-09 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
When I build from CVS, with the debian rules files, I always get 
problems on in debian/rules lines like:

cp debian/kbm.init.d debian/kdm/etc/init.d/kdm

The problem is that the destination directory often do 
not exists, and thus the cp fails. Do I need a special kind of cp 
to build with the debian/rules file, that creates missing 
directories, or what is the answer to this riddle?

-- Karolina





Re: And uglier

2001-05-09 Thread Viktor Lakics
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 07:52:50PM -0700, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
 
 Er, maybe it can't. The caption under Message indicates an upper case 
 *L* which also fails, though the lower case causes this action. What'd I miss?

I am not sure that he meant kmail uses L to do this ...Mutt does
this with the L, I do not know about kmail...


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  On Tuesday,  8. May 2001 23:01, Viktor Lakics wrote:
   Ákos, why don't you use the L (list reply) feature of mutt. This
   only replys to the particular list you are replying to...
...-snip-... 
  and even kmail in 2.1.1 can do this :-)




Re: kdm exagerates!

2001-05-09 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
yes, the syntax of kdmrc changed slightly.

 How can I fix it?
 
there is a control panel, you know ... :)

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Re: Re: kdm exagerates!

2001-05-09 Thread

yes, the syntax of kdmrc changed slightly.

 How can I fix it?
 
there is a control panel, you know ... :)

Thanks Oswald. But what is and where is the control panel you mentioned? :-(

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Re: And uglier

2001-05-09 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Wednesday 09 May 2001 04:52, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
 Er, maybe it can't. The caption under Message indicates an upper case 
 *L* which also fails, though the lower case causes this action. What'd I miss?

You should read keyboard accelerators like 'L' as Press the key labeled 'L'
and not as press the key kombination that produces an 'L'.  E.g.,
Caps Lock ... L and L work but Shift+L does not (that can be
a different accelerator, e.g. F1-Help  Shift+F1-What's this.

Achim 
 
 
 
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   Ákos, why don't you use the L (list reply) feature of mutt. This
   only replys to the particular list you are replying to...
 
  and even kmail in 2.1.1 can do this :-)
 
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Re: Re: kdm exagerates!

2001-05-09 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
  How can I fix it?
  
 there is a control panel, you know ... :)
 
 Thanks Oswald. But what is and where is the control panel you mentioned? :-(
 
K (the big button in the panel) - Preferences - System - Login Manager
or start the Control Center and go to System / Login Manger.

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Re: 2.2 pacakges update

2001-05-09 Thread Stephen J . Thompson
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Hello Ivan,

Have you had chance to do this yet? I can not seem to find them. I am looking 
for the source package.

Thanks.


Regards,

Stephen.


On Friday 04 May 2001 00:41, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
 This is a heads up.  Now that X4.0.3 is in sid and the new QT will be
 following shortly (it's in incoming but has new components) all KDE 2.2
 packages will be uploaded to experimental instead of people.d.o...  I've
 already started the uploads so the 20010503 snapshots will show up in the
 next couple days for people to grab and test if you want.

 Again..remember these are CVS snapshots and could be considered not even
 alphaware so dont' complain if it doesn't work. :)

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Re: to stop the thread over conffiles...

2001-05-09 Thread Hendrik Naumann
Hi 

 As a sysad, I do not like to edit anything beneath /usr by hand

 Usually, in backing up a complete system, I regard it to be
 completely restorable with only the original packages at hand and a
 backup of everything except /usr.  

And because that worked for me, it was one of reasons to change to 
debian. It is even possible to recover most of an system, just with 
an backup of /etc. And thats an argument that other debian developers 
pointed out, when the issue comes to usability of linux in an large 
network.

 Therefore, the correct place for the system wide override directory
 should be /etc/kde/{applnk,mimelnk,servcises,servicetypes} which
 might well be empty by default.

the should be emty. so the problem that they become configuration 
files won't happen.

 Actually, I believe having both
 /usr/share/kde/applnk and /usr/share/applnk with different meaning
 would cause a lot of confusion. IMO, the second option should be
 dropped and replaced by a /etc/kde/applnk (empty by default)

I came from an distri with kde in /opt/kde. I think there are pros an 
cons regarding this. But putting everything thats was in 
/opt/kde/share to /usr/share wasn't o good decision. NOT because the 
concept isn't good, but because the KDE-Projekt didn't really intend 
to fit there share-dirs in the global /usr/share. A lot of the 
core-developers working for SuSE or other companies that are going 
the /opt/kde way. I think they just don't think the /usr/share-way.

So in my opinion /usr/share/{applnk,mimelnk,servcises,servicetypes} 
would just stay for compatibility reasons. /usr/share/kde is a good 
place for the default {applnk,mimelnk,servcises,servicetypes}-dirs. I 
think gnome does the same in /usr/share/gnome (at least my ximian 1.4 
does).

To come to an end: What are the good argument agains /etc/kde, like 
Norbert Nemec suggested ?


By the way Thanks Ivan for your great work.


Hendrik




Re: AA with potato (strictly)

2001-05-09 Thread Dwayne C. Litzenberger
 You can only do antialiasing if you do NOT use the NVIDIA drivers (the
 commercial ones). They cannot do it yet.

Grr..  You could if nVidia actually continued to release their driver sources
like they said they would.  I'll never buy another NV card until they have
released GOOD driver docs for at least 2 consecutive generations of cards.

I will never understand why companies think there's something secret about the
way to control their hardware.  I mean, anyone could potentially RE the stupid
things, it's just a pain for normal users.

 
 
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Re: building from CVS

2001-05-09 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 09:44:39PM +0200, Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
 When I build from CVS, with the debian rules files, I always get 
 problems on in debian/rules lines like:
 
 cp debian/kbm.init.d debian/kdm/etc/init.d/kdm
 
 The problem is that the destination directory often do 
 not exists, and thus the cp fails. Do I need a special kind of cp 
 to build with the debian/rules file, that creates missing 
 directories, or what is the answer to this riddle?
 
I don't know what version of debhelper you have, or how current your CVS
is, but, above the line that does the cp'ing there is a call to
dh_installdirs. There is a debian/kdm.dirs file that will tell
dh_installdirs which dirs to create. So it is taken care of.

If you  have an old debhelper, or maybe you CVS is missing
debian/kdm.dirs, this probably won't work correctly.

Ivan designs/develops the kde CVS stuff under Sid IIRC.

Gordon Sadler




Re: AA with potato (strictly)

2001-05-09 Thread Rob Weir
I pretty much followed the instructions in the README file too, but i did 
fiddle with the modules a bit:
Loaddbe   # Double buffer extension
Loaddga
Loadextmod
Loadtype1
Loadfreetype
Loadglx

I have heard that if you mess up your XftConfig file it will cause any 
programs that use it to crash tho.  I did post me XftConfig before, but here 
it is again in case its useful to you:

#
# XftConfig from http://keithp.com/~keithp/fonts/XftConfig
#Messed with by Rob Weir ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
#Kudos to keith, blame to me
# Use with Type1 and TrueType fonts
#

dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
dir /usr/share/fonts/truetype
dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType

#
# alias 'fixed' for 'mono'
#
match any family == fixed edit family =+ mono;

#
#Check users config file
#
includeif   ~/.xftconfig

#
# Substitute TrueType fonts for Type1 versions
#
match any family == Times edit family += Times New Roman;
match any family == Helvetica edit family += Verdana;
match any family == Courier   edit family += Courier New;

#
# Use TrueType fonts for defaults
#
match any family == serif edit family += Times New Roman;
match any family == sans  edit family += Verdana;

#
# Use monotype.com (andale) face where possible
#
match
any family == mono 
all slant == roman
all weight  bold
edit
family += monotype.com;
#
# otherwise, use courier
#
match any family == mono  edit family += Courier New;

#
# Alias between XLFD families and font file family name, prefer local fonts
#
match any family == Charter   edit family += Bitstream Charter;
match any family == Bitstream Charter edit family =+ Charter;

match any family == Lucidux Serif edit family += LuciduxSerif;
match any family == LuciduxSerif  edit family =+ Lucidux Serif;

match any family == Lucidux Sans  edit family += LuciduxSans;
match any family == LuciduxSans   edit family =+ Lucidux Sans;

match any family == Lucidux Mono  edit family += LuciduxMono;
match any family == LuciduxMono   edit family =+ Lucidux Mono;

#
# TrueType font aliases
#
match any family == Comic Sansedit family += Comic Sans MS;
match any family == Comic Sans MS edit family =+ Comic Sans;
match any family == Trebuchet edit family += Trebuchet MS;
match any family == Trebuchet MS  edit family =+ Trebuchet;
match any family == Monotype  edit family =+ Monotype.com;
match any family == Andale Mono   edit family += Monotype.com;
match any family == Monotype.com  edit family =+ Andale Mono;

I certainly agree with your comment about NVidia not releasing source, 
haven't they been promising it for a couple of years now?




Re: AA with potato (strictly)

2001-05-09 Thread Rogerio Brito
On May 09 2001, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote:
 Grr..  You could if nVidia actually continued to release their
 driver sources like they said they would.  I'll never buy another NV
 card until they have released GOOD driver docs for at least 2
 consecutive generations of cards.

Some months ago, I was looking for good hardware to put
together a new box that could be used with Free Software. I
quickly noticed that nVidia cards were highly regarded, but
they did only had binary only drivers. This was enough for me
to choose a Matrox G400.

Since nVidia doesn't release their specifications to the Free
Software community, they don't want me as a customer.


[]s, Roger...

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Re: And uglier

2001-05-09 Thread JC Portlock
Even so, the 'L' in kmail does not reply to just the list, but those 
listed in the 'To:' AND the 'Cc:' lines, similar to 'reply-all'.  That 
is how I responded to this message. [Sorry folks for doubling your mail 
input, just making a point  ;^)  ]

On Tuesday 08 May 2001 07:52 pm, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
 Er, maybe it can't. The caption under Message indicates an upper
 case *L* which also fails, though the lower case causes this action.
 What'd I miss?

 On Tuesday 08 May 2001 16:54, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
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  On Tuesday,  8. May 2001 23:01, Viktor Lakics wrote:
   Ákos, why don't you use the L (list reply) feature of mutt.
   This only replys to the particular list you are replying to...
 
  and even kmail in 2.1.1 can do this :-)
 
  HS

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Re: And uglier

2001-05-09 Thread Guillermo Castro
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I just replied your email with 'L' (lowercase), which had all the CC's and 
To's, and I only got the list address in the To: field. Are you sure you are 
using it right??? ;-)

I'm using KMail version 1.2.

One other thing. I have all my list mails organized in folders, with filters. 
On the folder, I specified that this was a list and added the address for the 
list. Maybe if you do this, it will work like it was supposed to.

(Right-click folder - Modify... - Associated mailing list)

When you right-click on the folder, there's even an option to post to the 
mailing list (which I usually do) :-)

HTH


On Wednesday 09 May 2001 10:14, JC Portlock wrote:
 Even so, the 'L' in kmail does not reply to just the list, but those
 listed in the 'To:' AND the 'Cc:' lines, similar to 'reply-all'.  That
 is how I responded to this message. [Sorry folks for doubling your mail
 input, just making a point  ;^)  ]

 On Tuesday 08 May 2001 07:52 pm, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
  Er, maybe it can't. The caption under Message indicates an upper
  case *L* which also fails, though the lower case causes this action.
  What'd I miss?
 
  On Tuesday 08 May 2001 16:54, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
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   On Tuesday,  8. May 2001 23:01, Viktor Lakics wrote:
Ákos, why don't you use the L (list reply) feature of mutt.
This only replys to the particular list you are replying to...
  
   and even kmail in 2.1.1 can do this :-)
  
   HS

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Debian Menu and a KDE glitch?

2001-05-09 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
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Greets,

Running up-to-date UNSTABLE (that will hopefully cover the which 
version
questions that might be asked).

I have some menu's that I've created and placed in /etc/menu, which up 
until
now, have all worked like a charm! Below is a copy of the one that's causing
me grief. It seems that the ~/ really pisses off KDE. :--)


?package(local.staroffice): needs=x11 \
section=Apps/Editors  \
title=StarOffice \
longtitle=StarOffice 5.2 \
command=~/office52/program/soffice

Question is; Am I doing something incorrectly, or is there a different
format that KDE requires to run this? (aside from the true path
{/home/griz/office52/program/soffice} in the /etc/menu/staroffice file)

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Re: kdm exagerates!

2001-05-09 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 After automatic updating via dselect and the 
 official site of kde2 from 2.1.0 to 2.1.1, now 
 my new kdm manager shows not only the users I 
 have directly defined but also ALL the other 
 users defined by the system itself such as fax, 
 postgres and so on.

[Please wrap your lines at 72 chars.]

Go to the KDM page in KControl, select the user page and check your
No-Show settings.

You want the system accounts (as opposed to the user accounts) to be in
the No-Show users list and the radiobutton All but no-show selected.

HTH,
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