kde 2.2 on alpha

2001-06-29 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
guess what...it builds & works now.  Happy...uhh...4th of July..yea..that's
close enough.

Ivan

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Re: KDE 2.2beta1 impressions

2001-06-29 Thread David Bishop

Yep, I do know that...  Which is why when I thought it was my personal conf, I 
'mv .kde .kdebackup'ed instead of 'rm -fR .kde'.  When that didn't fix 
anything, I moved it right back.  I can test software *and* keep my config 
  :-P

David

On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 03:40:22PM -0500, Tom Joseph wrote:
> That's true but part of the territory when testing software - I just
> assumed everyone would know that...
> 
> --Tom Joseph
> 
> On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Andre Alexander Bell wrote:
> 
> > On Friday, 29. June 2001 20:41, Tom Joseph wrote:
> > > Um, couldn't you just remove ~/.kde ...? Does KDE keep per-user config
> > > stuff anywhere else?
> >
> > Sure, but then you might loose some data you want to keep. (Knotes,
> > Kab-Adressbook, Some programm configurations...)
> >
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1 impressions

2001-06-29 Thread Tom Joseph
That's true but part of the territory when testing software - I just
assumed everyone would know that...

--Tom Joseph

On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Andre Alexander Bell wrote:

> On Friday, 29. June 2001 20:41, Tom Joseph wrote:
> > Um, couldn't you just remove ~/.kde ...? Does KDE keep per-user config
> > stuff anywhere else?
>
> Sure, but then you might loose some data you want to keep. (Knotes,
> Kab-Adressbook, Some programm configurations...)
>
> Andre
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1 impressions

2001-06-29 Thread Andre Alexander Bell
On Friday, 29. June 2001 20:41, Tom Joseph wrote:
> Um, couldn't you just remove ~/.kde ...? Does KDE keep per-user config
> stuff anywhere else?

Sure, but then you might loose some data you want to keep. (Knotes, 
Kab-Adressbook, Some programm configurations...)

Andre




Re: KDE 2.2beta1 impressions

2001-06-29 Thread Daniel Patrick Berdine
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Stephan Jaensch wrote:

> No, my history is also set to 1000. When hitting PageUp/PageDown/Home/End, 
> all I get in konsole is a system beep and this symbol: ~. I've tried all the 
> available keyboard layout options in konsole, but the problem persists. 
> Deleting my ~/.kde doesn't help either.
> 
> Since I am obviously the only one experiencing this it could well be a bug 
> associated with my local configuration. I'm german and using all the 
> appropriate configuration settings for this country including german keyboard 
> layout. For me, konsole in 2.2beta1 is definitely broken, it worked 
> flawlessly before and I didn't change anything else.

I actually have this exact problem with KDE2.1.2.  I haven't gotten around
to hunting down how to fix it yet, I have assumed to this point it was a
problem with my configuration, but I definitly get the same behaviour.

Minor detail, I only get this behaviour when Konsole is just being
Konsole.  If I run something inside, such as less or nano, page up and
down work fine.

-Dan




Re: KDE 2.2beta1 impressions

2001-06-29 Thread Ben Burton

> Since I am obviously the only one experiencing this it could well be a bug
> associated with my local configuration.

Just tried it out, I'm getting your behaviour also (with English settings).

Ben.

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Re: KDE 2.2beta1 impressions

2001-06-29 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 09:24:15PM +0200, Stephan Jaensch wrote:
> On Friday, 29. June 2001 20:32, David Bishop wrote:
> 
> > The konsole now defaults to having no history, so it's not the keys, you
> > just need to go into the settings and set the history from "1" to whatever
> > (usually 1000 for me).  I don't remember exactly which menu it's in, and I
> > just finished uninstalling everything having to do with kde in an attempt
> > to "reinitialize" all my settings, and haven't gotten around to
> > reinstalling yet :-)  Dunno about arts
> 
> No, my history is also set to 1000. When hitting PageUp/PageDown/Home/End, 
> all I get in konsole is a system beep and this symbol: ~. I've tried all the 
> available keyboard layout options in konsole, but the problem persists. 
> Deleting my ~/.kde doesn't help either.
> 
> Since I am obviously the only one experiencing this it could well be a bug 
> associated with my local configuration. I'm german and using all the 
> appropriate configuration settings for this country including german keyboard 
> layout. For me, konsole in 2.2beta1 is definitely broken, it worked 
> flawlessly before and I didn't change anything else.

your not the only one experiencing this...others have reported it and there
is an open bug report on the BTS on the alpha packages for this.

Ivan

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Re: KDE 2.2beta1 impressions

2001-06-29 Thread Stephan Jaensch
On Friday, 29. June 2001 20:32, David Bishop wrote:

> The konsole now defaults to having no history, so it's not the keys, you
> just need to go into the settings and set the history from "1" to whatever
> (usually 1000 for me).  I don't remember exactly which menu it's in, and I
> just finished uninstalling everything having to do with kde in an attempt
> to "reinitialize" all my settings, and haven't gotten around to
> reinstalling yet :-)  Dunno about arts

No, my history is also set to 1000. When hitting PageUp/PageDown/Home/End, 
all I get in konsole is a system beep and this symbol: ~. I've tried all the 
available keyboard layout options in konsole, but the problem persists. 
Deleting my ~/.kde doesn't help either.

Since I am obviously the only one experiencing this it could well be a bug 
associated with my local configuration. I'm german and using all the 
appropriate configuration settings for this country including german keyboard 
layout. For me, konsole in 2.2beta1 is definitely broken, it worked 
flawlessly before and I didn't change anything else.


Ciao...




Re: KDE 2.2beta1 impressions

2001-06-29 Thread David Bishop
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 01:07:58PM -0600, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 01:01:34PM -0600, David Bishop wrote:
> > 
> > All ready tried that, didn't help.  But I also have a lot of left-over 
> > packages from ald versions of kde lying around, and want to make sure that 
> > everything is "latest and greatest", which apt-get normally handles really 
> > well, but doesn't cover all possible bases (for instance, I still have 
> > obsoleted packages installed like aktion, which by itself won't cause the 
> > problems I am having, but there are others like it).  IOW, it's not the 
> > per-user stuff that is crashing me :-)  And looking back at my email 
> > s/settings/packages/.
> 
> 
> aktion is not obsolete. :)
> 

Oh.  Heh.  I, um, knew that :-P  Gah, is today Monday?  It feels like a 
monday..

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Re: KDE 2.2beta1 impressions

2001-06-29 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 01:01:34PM -0600, David Bishop wrote:
> 
> All ready tried that, didn't help.  But I also have a lot of left-over 
> packages from ald versions of kde lying around, and want to make sure that 
> everything is "latest and greatest", which apt-get normally handles really 
> well, but doesn't cover all possible bases (for instance, I still have 
> obsoleted packages installed like aktion, which by itself won't cause the 
> problems I am having, but there are others like it).  IOW, it's not the 
> per-user stuff that is crashing me :-)  And looking back at my email 
> s/settings/packages/.


aktion is not obsolete. :)

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Re: KDE 2.2beta1 impressions

2001-06-29 Thread David Bishop

All ready tried that, didn't help.  But I also have a lot of left-over packages 
from ald versions of kde lying around, and want to make sure that everything is 
"latest and greatest", which apt-get normally handles really well, but doesn't 
cover all possible bases (for instance, I still have obsoleted packages 
installed like aktion, which by itself won't cause the problems I am having, 
but there are others like it).  IOW, it's not the per-user stuff that is 
crashing me :-)  And looking back at my email s/settings/packages/.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 01:41:49PM -0500, Tom Joseph wrote:
> Um, couldn't you just remove ~/.kde ...? Does KDE keep per-user config
> stuff anywhere else?
> 
> --Tom Joseph
> 
> On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, David Bishop wrote:
> 
> >
> > The konsole now defaults to having no history, so it's not the keys, you 
> > just need to go into the settings and set the history from "1" to whatever 
> > (usually 1000 for me).  I don't remember exactly which menu it's in, and I 
> > just finished uninstalling everything having to do with kde in an attempt 
> > to "reinitialize" all my settings, and haven't gotten around to 
> > reinstalling yet :-)  Dunno about arts
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > D.A.Bishop
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 07:26:20PM +0200, Stephan Jaensch wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > > first of all, great work with the 2.2beta1 packages, Ivan! Keep up the
> > > excellent work!
> > >
> > > Now, for the bugs I have found... :-)
> > >
> > > arts alsa support seems to be linked against alsa 0.5. If I try to start
> > > artsd with alsa support it just segfaults. Since this is unstable, I think
> > > artsd should be linked against alsa-0.9. However, when I tried compiling 
> > > KDE
> > > on my own this failed, so some source modifications are needed...
> > >
> > > Second, pageup/pagedown/home/end do not work anymore in konsole. Seems 
> > > like
> > > the old problem we had some time ago...
> > >
> > > That's all! Everything else works just as expected!
> > >
> > >
> > > Ciao...
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1 impressions

2001-06-29 Thread Tom Joseph
Um, couldn't you just remove ~/.kde ...? Does KDE keep per-user config
stuff anywhere else?

--Tom Joseph

On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, David Bishop wrote:

>
> The konsole now defaults to having no history, so it's not the keys, you just 
> need to go into the settings and set the history from "1" to whatever 
> (usually 1000 for me).  I don't remember exactly which menu it's in, and I 
> just finished uninstalling everything having to do with kde in an attempt to 
> "reinitialize" all my settings, and haven't gotten around to reinstalling yet 
> :-)  Dunno about arts
>
> HTH,
>
> D.A.Bishop
>
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 07:26:20PM +0200, Stephan Jaensch wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > first of all, great work with the 2.2beta1 packages, Ivan! Keep up the
> > excellent work!
> >
> > Now, for the bugs I have found... :-)
> >
> > arts alsa support seems to be linked against alsa 0.5. If I try to start
> > artsd with alsa support it just segfaults. Since this is unstable, I think
> > artsd should be linked against alsa-0.9. However, when I tried compiling KDE
> > on my own this failed, so some source modifications are needed...
> >
> > Second, pageup/pagedown/home/end do not work anymore in konsole. Seems like
> > the old problem we had some time ago...
> >
> > That's all! Everything else works just as expected!
> >
> >
> > Ciao...
> >
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Re: KDE 2.2beta1 impressions

2001-06-29 Thread David Bishop

The konsole now defaults to having no history, so it's not the keys, you just 
need to go into the settings and set the history from "1" to whatever (usually 
1000 for me).  I don't remember exactly which menu it's in, and I just finished 
uninstalling everything having to do with kde in an attempt to "reinitialize" 
all my settings, and haven't gotten around to reinstalling yet :-)  Dunno about 
arts

HTH,

D.A.Bishop

On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 07:26:20PM +0200, Stephan Jaensch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> first of all, great work with the 2.2beta1 packages, Ivan! Keep up the 
> excellent work!
> 
> Now, for the bugs I have found... :-)
> 
> arts alsa support seems to be linked against alsa 0.5. If I try to start 
> artsd with alsa support it just segfaults. Since this is unstable, I think 
> artsd should be linked against alsa-0.9. However, when I tried compiling KDE 
> on my own this failed, so some source modifications are needed...
> 
> Second, pageup/pagedown/home/end do not work anymore in konsole. Seems like 
> the old problem we had some time ago...
> 
> That's all! Everything else works just as expected!
> 
> 
> Ciao...
> 
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KDE 2.2beta1 impressions

2001-06-29 Thread Stephan Jaensch
Hi,


first of all, great work with the 2.2beta1 packages, Ivan! Keep up the 
excellent work!

Now, for the bugs I have found... :-)

arts alsa support seems to be linked against alsa 0.5. If I try to start 
artsd with alsa support it just segfaults. Since this is unstable, I think 
artsd should be linked against alsa-0.9. However, when I tried compiling KDE 
on my own this failed, so some source modifications are needed...

Second, pageup/pagedown/home/end do not work anymore in konsole. Seems like 
the old problem we had some time ago...

That's all! Everything else works just as expected!


Ciao...




kdm preinst

2001-06-29 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
ok...if I don't get a fixed package up in time of today's install run this
is a workaround for the preinst bug in kdm.

  rm -rf /etc/X11/kdm/authdir

that *should* take care of it...if you have already installed it and it
failed just rm -rf /etc/X11/kdm

everything is under /etc/kde2/kdm now..the preinst should have copied or
moved things over however the authdir I think fubar'd things...

Ivan
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Re: kdm beta1

2001-06-29 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
ack...

On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 08:38:19AM -0700, David Bishop wrote:
> 
> It's just my week to discover bugs :-)  This is what I get while trying to 
> install the latest kdm from incoming.  I can't imagine what I'm doing wrong, 
> and since I'm always right/perfect, it must be your fault *grin*.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/david/tmp# dpkg -i kdm_2.2.0-0beta1-1_i386.deb
> (Reading database ... 75907 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace kdm 4:2.2-cvs20010602-1 (using 
> kdm_2.2.0-0beta1-1_i386.deb) ...
> cp: omitting directory `/etc/X11/kdm/authdir'
> cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/kdm/kdmrc': No such file or directory
> cp: omitting directory `/etc/X11/kdm/pixmaps'
> dpkg: error processing kdm_2.2.0-0beta1-1_i386.deb (--install):
>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm.postinst: cleanup: command not found
> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
>  
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  kdm_2.2.0-0beta1-1_i386.deb
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/david/tmp#
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Re: Create new users in a special way

2001-06-29 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
> Hello!
> 
tach auch! :)

> Now I want to create /home/directories in the way the programm "adduser"
> create /home/directories /copying files from /etc/skel and copy them in
> user's home directory, and so on.
> 
for user in `cut -f1 -d: 

kdm beta1

2001-06-29 Thread David Bishop

It's just my week to discover bugs :-)  This is what I get while trying to 
install the latest kdm from incoming.  I can't imagine what I'm doing wrong, 
and since I'm always right/perfect, it must be your fault *grin*.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/david/tmp# dpkg -i kdm_2.2.0-0beta1-1_i386.deb
(Reading database ... 75907 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace kdm 4:2.2-cvs20010602-1 (using 
kdm_2.2.0-0beta1-1_i386.deb) ...
cp: omitting directory `/etc/X11/kdm/authdir'
cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/kdm/kdmrc': No such file or directory
cp: omitting directory `/etc/X11/kdm/pixmaps'
dpkg: error processing kdm_2.2.0-0beta1-1_i386.deb (--install):
 subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
/var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm.postinst: cleanup: command not found
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
 
Errors were encountered while processing:
 kdm_2.2.0-0beta1-1_i386.deb
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Re: kde2.2-beta1

2001-06-29 Thread Ben Burton

> Hm, I was too slow. Just tried to get kdelibs3 and kdebase from
> http://incoming.debian.org, but they are not there anymore! They also are
> not in ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kdelibs, so where are they now?

Oops, ignore the last post.  It seems Ivan has simply uploaded newer 
versions; take another look now.

They did still get picked up yesterday afternoon though (see incoming/REPORT) 
and should show up on your mirror this afternoon, other problems aside.

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Re: Create new users in a special way

2001-06-29 Thread David Bishop

I would suggest debian-user, as I don't see how KDE relates to your question. 
Have fun!

On Friday 29 June 2001 02:45 am, Heidelinde Meier wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Perhaps my question is not too difficult for you to answer:
> I want to create more than 5000 new users on my system.
> Because there are 5000 users who already got their password, that means
> for me: I already got the complete files
> /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow on my system.
>
> Now I want to create /home/directories in the way the programm "adduser"
> create /home/directories /copying files from /etc/skel and copy them in
> user's home directory, and so on.
>
> Now my question: I don't want to type in every information on each user
> while executing "adduser", because "adduser" asks for the password, the
> user's identity - these should be ignored.
> For me it would be easy to type in one command (which can be filled by
> the information that is given from the file /etc/passwd) , perhaps with
> "adduser" and lots of options, but without typing the information by
> hand. The rest should be automatically generated.
>
> Perhaps you have some nice ideas on that.
>
> Hope you understand my English - thanks.
>
> Heide

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Re: kde2.2-beta1

2001-06-29 Thread Ben Burton

> Hm, I was too slow. Just tried to get kdelibs3 and kdebase from
> http://incoming.debian.org, but they are not there anymore! They also are
> not in ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kdelibs, so where are they now?

They got picked up by the server yesterday afternoon and should show up after 
today's 2pm (Oklahoma time) update.

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Create new users in a special way

2001-06-29 Thread Heidelinde Meier
Hello!

Perhaps my question is not too difficult for you to answer:
I want to create more than 5000 new users on my system.
Because there are 5000 users who already got their password, that means
for me: I already got the complete files
/etc/passwd and /etc/shadow on my system.

Now I want to create /home/directories in the way the programm "adduser"
create /home/directories /copying files from /etc/skel and copy them in
user's home directory, and so on.

Now my question: I don't want to type in every information on each user
while executing "adduser", because "adduser" asks for the password, the
user's identity - these should be ignored.
For me it would be easy to type in one command (which can be filled by
the information that is given from the file /etc/passwd) , perhaps with
"adduser" and lots of options, but without typing the information by
hand. The rest should be automatically generated.

Perhaps you have some nice ideas on that.

Hope you understand my English - thanks.

Heide






Re: kde2.2-beta1

2001-06-29 Thread Stephan Jaensch
On Friday, 29. June 2001 01:16, Ben Burton wrote:
> > Well, I'm wondering how you did this. :-) I'm running Debian unstable too
> > and when I update I get a whole slew of dependency problems because
> > kdelibs3 is still 2.1.2-3 on my system (other packages like kmail are
> > already 2.2-cvs). Since it worked for you I am obviously doing something
> > wrong, could someone please tell me what I need to do to get the beta1
> > kdelibs3 package?
>
> See the thread "kdelibs3 and beta1" on this mailing list, emails posted
> about ten minutes before yours.

Hm, I was too slow. Just tried to get kdelibs3 and kdebase from 
http://incoming.debian.org, but they are not there anymore! They also are not 
in ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kdelibs, so where are they now?


Ciao...