Re: KDE programming

2001-07-09 Thread David Bishop

I would suggest installing task-kde-devel and kdevelop, and go from there.  
They should get all you need :-)

HTH,

David

On Monday 09 July 2001 20:21, John Batistic wrote:
> I have purchased the KDE 2/Qt Programming Bible by Arthur Griffith.
>
> In trying to work through the first tutorial I find that none of the
> programming packages seem to be present in my Debian KDE 2.1.2.
>
> Naturally, the files in the accompanying CD are not currrent, and I
> cannot find debs for the ones I think I need.
>
> Can some-one advise me on the best course of action?
> or am I on the wrong list.
>
> Thanks
> John Batistic.
>
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KDE 2.2beta1

2001-07-09 Thread Rogério Brito

Hi there, all.

So, I updated a copy of sid that I had here gathering dust
just to see what will come of KDE 2.2.

Well, it was actually very beautiful and I guess that some
friends of mine which have always feared Linux installs will
be able to use it. Everything is very beautiful, in my
opinion.

On the other hand, I'd love to see the KDE 2.2 launch delayed
one or two weeks: some applications (like Konqueror) deserve a
bugfixfest (perhaps like Debians Bug Parties?).

I think that it would be a pity to have KDE 2.2 so attractive
and useful, but unstable burned forever on CDs after woody is
released. :-( I really like KDE and would not feel good with
other people getting the wrong impression from an outlier.

Anyway, just for fun, I'm seeing that Konqueror has consistent
problems trying to open http://www.sexyclube.com.br/ just
after the page entrance. Can others confirm this problem?

Another thing that shows problems consistently with Konqueror
is when I click the middle button of my mouse in Konqueror's
splash screen with the mouse over the KDE.org link.

Well, that's all, folks.


[]s really excited with the new KDE, Roger...

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KDE programming

2001-07-09 Thread John Batistic
I have purchased the KDE 2/Qt Programming Bible by Arthur Griffith.

In trying to work through the first tutorial I find that none of the
programming packages seem to be present in my Debian KDE 2.1.2.

Naturally, the files in the accompanying CD are not currrent, and I
cannot find debs for the ones I think I need.

Can some-one advise me on the best course of action?
or am I on the wrong list.

Thanks
John Batistic.

--- from NEW ZEALAND - a natural habitat for the PENGUIN ---
--- registered Linux user # 205322 - running Libranet Linux ---




Fonts foulup

2001-07-09 Thread csj
My KDE 2.2beta desktop on two machines can now see just three fonts 
Charter, Courier and (the invisible) Cursor. On one machine, it 
happened after I installed OpenOffice (build 632). On the other 
machine, it happened after I installed Branden's XFree86 4.1 
pre-release.

The funny thing is this, when I fire up another window manager or 
desktop (Gnome/Sawfish or IceWM), the fonts appear properly in the 
KDE applications themselves, including Konqueror and KMail.

Suggestions? Solutions?




Re: artsd is segfaulting with alsa drivers

2001-07-09 Thread Joseph Schlecht
On Monday 09 July 2001 17:23, Stephan Jaensch wrote:
[snip]
> Same here. Wild guess: artsd is compiled against alsa-0.5. I never managed
> to compile artsd against alsa-0.9 myself but against alsa-0.5 worked fine
> so I think the KDE team has not ported artsd to alsa-0.9 yet.

I was thinking the same thing.

> Workaround: Compile alsa with oss-emulation support and set the sound I/O
> method under Sound->Sound Server->Sound I/O in the control center to "Open
> Sound System".
[snip]

Thanks for the workaround. Unfortunately it doesn't work for me. I tried this 
before with $artsd -a oss and tried it through the control panel as you 
suggested. I get a dialog box that says 'cpu overload, aborting', WTF!

Since I have just started using alsa on this machine and the workaround does 
not seem to work, do you think it would be best to downgrade to alsa-0.5 or 
wait for artsd to be compiled with 0.9 support (if this is in fact the 
issue)? Also, maybe someone on the list has another idea?

Joseph Schlecht




Re: Anti-aliasing problems prevent KDE startup

2001-07-09 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Tuesday 10 July 2001 00:53, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was trying out the kde2.2beta1 in unstable and it seems all great
> and fun excluding the anti-aliasing issue.

Install anti-aliasing-howto and read the docs of the package.
> 
> When I turn on anti-aliasing the next time I login the KDE will think
> it has started successfully leaving me with a gray blank screen. It
> looks like it's kwin that crashes (from what I saw when I started kde2
> from an xterm), but I can't be sure. I guess the unresolved symbols
> in kdelibs have already been reported but for the record:
> The antialiasing issue renders the system useless, and I didn't really
> understand the reason of the freeze until I turned it off in the new
> configuration wizard that greets you retrying everything. You
> think your computer is fast and turn all the fancy effects on leaving
> you with a too plain desktop. :P

Better to experiment with AA like this

QT_XFT=true Your_prefered_kde_app_here

If it works switch it on globally.
> 
> And I haven't been able to find a log of kde error messages when I
> login from kdm. What am I missing? A warning/error log would be
> useful.

Check ~/.xsession-errors.

Achim
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: preset bookmarks

2001-07-09 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Monday 09 July 2001 23:39, Jens Benecke wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 06:01:31PM -0600, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
>  
> > /etc/skel is not the solution...the solution must end up being in
> > /etc/kde2
> 
> How do you know that 'old' users want the file at all?  Or that they don't

Same as with all new features: You (or the sysadmin) updates the package
so you (or the sysadmin) 'asked for' the feature ;)

> already have bookmarks and probably do NOT want the system wide ones
> inserted?

Image a solution for the debian bookmarks like the netscape booksmarks.
Just switch it off if you don't like it.

Achim
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Anti-aliasing problems prevent KDE startup

2001-07-09 Thread exa

Hi,

I was trying out the kde2.2beta1 in unstable and it seems all great
and fun excluding the anti-aliasing issue.

When I turn on anti-aliasing the next time I login the KDE will think
it has started successfully leaving me with a gray blank screen. It
looks like it's kwin that crashes (from what I saw when I started kde2
from an xterm), but I can't be sure. I guess the unresolved symbols
in kdelibs have already been reported but for the record:
The antialiasing issue renders the system useless, and I didn't really
understand the reason of the freeze until I turned it off in the new
configuration wizard that greets you retrying everything. You
think your computer is fast and turn all the fancy effects on leaving
you with a too plain desktop. :P

And I haven't been able to find a log of kde error messages when I
login from kdm. What am I missing? A warning/error log would be
useful.

Thanks,

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Re: artsd is segfaulting with alsa drivers

2001-07-09 Thread Stephan Jaensch
Hi,

On Monday 09 July 2001 23:08, Joseph Schlecht wrote:

> I recently switched my laptops sound drivers from the kernel modules to
> alsa-0.9+0beta4. I'm pretty sure I have alsa set up correctly. All sound
> applications outside of kde are working fine.

[artsd crashes]

Same here. Wild guess: artsd is compiled against alsa-0.5. I never managed to 
compile artsd against alsa-0.9 myself but against alsa-0.5 worked fine so I 
think the KDE team has not ported artsd to alsa-0.9 yet.

Workaround: Compile alsa with oss-emulation support and set the sound I/O 
method under Sound->Sound Server->Sound I/O in the control center to "Open 
Sound System".



Ciao...




Re: DCOP server not running

2001-07-09 Thread James Smith
This happened to me too.
There should be some files (they look like symbolic links) in your home 
directory that are named .DCOPserver*.  Check the permissions of those to 
make sure you own them.  

Hope this helps,
James Smith

On Monday 09 July 2001 10:16am, Attila Sulyok wrote:
> 0100,0100,0100I upgraded from potato to testing.
>
> I selected the latest Koffice (1.1b3).
>
>
> I have got to the next strange state:
>
> If I am a user, 'startx' fails with next message: DCOP server couldnot
> be started. Typing 'dcopserver' results in 'Aborting, $DISPLAY is not
> set.'
>
>
> If I am root, 'startx' runs well and start a complete KDE session.
>
>
> I don't have information about DCOP. I tried to find but without
> success.
>
> Would you inform me about DCOP: what is this abreviation, what is
> the config file I have to set, etc.
>
>
> thanks.
>
>
> 




artsd is segfaulting with alsa drivers

2001-07-09 Thread Joseph Schlecht
I recently switched my laptops sound drivers from the kernel modules to 
alsa-0.9+0beta4. I'm pretty sure I have alsa set up correctly. All sound 
applications outside of kde are working fine.

To complete the switch in kde, I did an apt-get install libarts-alsa. 
However, I think artsd is segfaulting on login. I've tried running it from 
the command line (I don't know if this is right, but I'm getting desperate):

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ artsd -l 0
  autodetecting driver:
   - null: 0
  Segmentation fault

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ artsd -A
  possible choices for the audio i/o method:
 
null  No audio input/output
alsa  Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
oss   Open Sound System

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ artsd -a alsa -l 0
  Segmentation fault

Does anyone have any ideas about what might be going wrong? More info 
availabe upon request ;-)

Joe Schlecht




Re: artsd network question

2001-07-09 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Saturday 07 July 2001 21:47, Radu Muschevici wrote:
> I would like to have my sound clients (xmms, noatun) on my laptop output 
> their sound over the network to an arts daemon running on my desktop computer.
> I suppose I have to configure the hostname/TCP port of the server
> somewhere on the client, but where?

On the desktop computer start Controlcenter and enable in Sound -> Sound Server
the items:

enable network transparency
exchange security and reference info over the X11 Server

and apply (to restart artsd).  Now slogin -X to you laptop and

echo GlobalComm=Arts::X11GlobalComm > ~/.mcoprc

now
artsdsp xmms# or use the xmms' artsplugin

etc. works over the network.
> 
> Also, do I need to run an artsd also on the laptop which would act as a
> forwarder?

No, see above, but, e.g.,  'artsplay  file'  will only work if 'file' is on the 
host
running artsd and not on the local host.  A fix is one of the top 3 items for
KDE 2.3 ;)

Achim
> 
> thanks
> Radu
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Re: koffice solution for small school office suite?

2001-07-09 Thread Frank Zimmermann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is koffice the solution for our small school network (10 machine) need for a 
stable linux office package?
I need a solid wysiwyg word processor and a spreadsheet that has graphing capability.  

I am looking at staroffice (the bohemoth memory pig) as a solution, but would 
rather not go that route.
I need stability, I don't need flashy.  

Thanks for any advice anyone has on this topic.  I'll check the list posting.

Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
It's quite a while I had a look at koffice, so I don't know anything 
about features and stability.
I have no idea what machines you are running in your school, this 
might be helpfull.

I run SO5.2 for spreadsheet applications on my P133 with 80 MB RAM. 
Well it takes a while to start SO but then you can work pretty fast.

BTW, could you set up your mail agent to breaklines at 72 better 68 
characters.

Thanx,
Frank



DCOP server not running

2001-07-09 Thread Attila Sulyok
I upgraded from potato to testing.
I selected the latest Koffice (1.1b3).

I have got to the next strange state:
If I am a user, 'startx' fails with next message: DCOP server couldnot  be started. Typing 'dcopserver' results in 'Aborting, $DISPLAY is not  set.'

If I am root, 'startx' runs well and start a complete KDE session.

I don't have information about DCOP. I tried to find but without  success. 
Would you inform me about DCOP: what is this abreviation, what is  the config file I have to set, etc.

thanks.






koffice solution for small school office suite?

2001-07-09 Thread jg1024
Is koffice the solution for our small school network (10 machine) need for a 
stable linux office package?

I need a solid wysiwyg word processor and a spreadsheet that has graphing 
capability.  If abiword was a little better and gnumeric had graphing I would 
be all set.

I am looking at staroffice (the bohemoth memory pig) as a solution, but would 
rather not go that route.

I need stability, I don't need flashy.  If koffice runs in testing branch, and 
that branch is shaky, I'm not getting anywhere.

Any recommendations??

Thanks for any advice anyone has on this topic.  I'll check the list posting.



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Re: audiocd , and fonts

2001-07-09 Thread Robert Wittams
On Monday 09 July 2001 12:42 pm, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> On Monday,  9. July 2001 13:09, Robert Wittams wrote:
> > 3) kde-pimlibs seems to conflict wth evolution ( a gnome pim program),
> > they both provide a libical.so.0.0 . However, there is no Conflicts:
> > entry, and this would probably be a bad solution anyway. They both seem
> > to provide forked versions of the library, so maybe libkde-ical and
> > libevolution-ical should be made instead
>
> I think a better way would be to get to a common lib they can both use...
>
> HS

Well, yeah, but we need a solution that can be done relatively quickly. 
Currently the libs are binary incomaptible AFAIK, so that would be a 
long term thing. 

Rob




Re: audiocd , and fonts

2001-07-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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On Monday,  9. July 2001 13:09, Robert Wittams wrote:
> 3) kde-pimlibs seems to conflict wth evolution ( a gnome pim program),
> they both provide a libical.so.0.0 . However, there is no Conflicts: entry,
> and this would probably be a bad solution anyway. They both seem to provide
> forked versions of the library, so maybe libkde-ical and libevolution-ical
> should be made instead

I think a better way would be to get to a common lib they can both use...

HS
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Re: Making Brahms, the Debian way?

2001-07-09 Thread John Gay

So it looks like my two options are, the last working version of Brahms,
which is KDE1.x or wait for the new version that will work with KDE2.x to
be completed, which looks like it might be a while. I guess I'll wait.

Thanks for the info.

 John Gay




audiocd , and fonts

2001-07-09 Thread Robert Wittams
Hello, 

I have a couple of questions about kde in debian.. 

1) Is the audiocd ioslave compiled to use libmp3lame if it 
is available? I can not currently get this to work, it only 
does Ogg vorbis. Is this because the Build-depends 
would not be in debian, as lame is not in debian? 

2) Is there a known problem with konsole and fonts? 
When I use the AA mode, I can not use any "core" 
fonts, only the Xft ones. 
 I usually use the "clean" font for my terminal.
This is currently causing me to use gnome-terminal, 
as it looks a lot nicer. 

3) kde-pimlibs seems to conflict wth evolution ( a gnome pim program),
they both provide a libical.so.0.0 . However, there is no Conflicts: entry, 
and this would probably be a bad solution anyway. They both seem to provide 
forked versions of the library, so maybe libkde-ical and libevolution-ical 
should be made instead

Cheers. 

Robert




Re: Can't use i18n

2001-07-09 Thread Ax
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Dne čtvrtek 05 červenec 2001 19:22 Michael Spanier napsal(a):
> On Thursday 05 July 2001 19:09, Macolu wrote:

> I also experienced some strange problems with kmail and kde-i18n-de
> Kmail segfaults if I have german selected. It doesn't if I have default 
> (C) set as language.
> The console output says :
>
> WARNING: found no definition of PluralForm
> FATAL: translation of "%n unread" doesn't contain 1 different plural
> forms as expected
> *** KMail got signal 6 (Crashing)
> KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
> KCrash: Application Name = kmail path =  pid = 3368
> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ WARNING: found no definition of PluralForm
>
> looks like something is missing in kde-i18n-de.

Exactly same problem w. kde-i18n-cs

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Re: Making Brahms, the Debian way?

2001-07-09 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Sunday 08 July 2001 01:34, John Gay wrote:
> I remember this subject came up here before, but i can't find the mails so 
> I'll ask for myself.
> 
> I just down-loaded the latest sources for Brahms from the main KDE site. I 
> would like to try to compile it, but I want to be sure that it goes in the 
> proper directories. I understand that there a many tools that Ivan and others 
> have provided to help simplify this task. I think I've got most of them at 
> this stage, but I just want to be sure.
> 
> I am guessing that first I need to be able to 'make' brahms sucsessfully 
> before I can start implimenting the Debian-specific changes. I still need to 
> chase down a few things, I think just the arts development stuff.

I'm not sure if latest brahms sources compile with KDE CVS.  There's a special
branch with additional features for brahms (announcement appended).  If
make fails ask on [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more details.  Further at least
~ 10 days ago one need alsa (or hack sources) to compile brahms. --without-alsa
did not work but maybe this is fixed already.

Achim

Subject: aRts branch
From: Stefan Westerfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], arts@space.twc.de
 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:40:49 +0200
 
   Hi!

I have created a second branch for new developments in aRts today. It was
more or less the only way to deal with the following two conflicting goals:

 * KDE is in feature-freeze currently

 * there is a talk held by Jan Wuerthner and me about aRts/Brahms at
   LinuxTag2001 in a few weeks, and we're currently still working getting
   some things implemented properly in aRts/Brahms

So to fulfill these, for kdemultimedia/arts there is now

HEAD:
  * bugfixes only
  * will be released with KDE2.2

ARTS_0_7_BRANCH:
  * will contain new features
  * will be merged back into HEAD after KDE2.2

If you want to update your CVS copy of aRts to the branch, do:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src$ cd kdemultimedia/arts
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/kdemultimedia/arts$ cvs update -r ARTS_0_7_BRANCH

Some goals for the branch/aRts-0.7.x unstable development are:

 * environments (for sequencer integration: the sequencer creates an
   environment with some devices, for instance a mixer and synthesizers,
   that can be saved easily with all settings made there with the song
   file, and restored later)
 * software emulation of a multichannel mixer
 * more work on aRts midi support (synchonization with audio, timing,
   recording)
 * harddisc recording
 * ladspa support
 * implement all features fully that were present in the last aRts/CORBA
   (0.3.4.1) release, that is for instance
 - reading/playing AKAI samples
 - modifying instrument parameters while playing (instrument GUIs)
 - recording from soundserver by a small program (old artsrec/artsmon)
 - schedule cycles of modules properly

Here is a screenshot of the mixer code in ARTS_0_7_BRANCH:

  http://space.twc.de/~stefan/arts-mixer.png

Hope that makes everybody happy ;)

   Cu... Stefan
> 
> After this, I beleive I can use some tools to try to convert the plain 
> sources into Debianized sources that will install in the proper locations.
> 
> I've read Ivan's page about this subject and think I've got all the tools, I 
> just need to figure out how it all works together.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>   John Gay
> 
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Re: koffice(kword) not work

2001-07-09 Thread Ben Burton

Hi.. may I ask which versions of the koffice and kword packages you have 
installed?

Btw, debian-kde@lists.debian.org is a good list to ask questions relating to 
KDE and KOffice.

> I ever using apt-get install koffice
> it at end complain, need postfix, mutt, etc
> install error code 1
> at kde, I using menu hit kword, it it not appear(circle around on menu
> panel then disappear)

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