Re: KDEbian FAQ

2001-08-09 Thread tluxt
--- Jaime Robles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Debian & KDE users FAQ V-0.1
> 
> Jaime Robles ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Begin 27/Jan/2001
> Last update 16/Mar/2001
> 
> This FAQ comes from the Debian & KDE user list: 
> "debian-kde@lists.debian.org"
> 
> 0.-Question: Where can I find the last version of this FAQ?
>Answer: 27 Jan 2001
> You can find it in http://kde.debian.net
>

Thanks for the Faq!

1. Are you the maintainer?

2. I looked at kde.debian.net, as from the answer above, and the FAQ
wasn't there.  It would be a great resource to have there!  What would
it take to get it there?  I'll help get it there if there's some help
required within my abilities.  (Do we need to ask Ivan if he would put
it up?)

3. Do you know how I might help provide some updates to it, if I may?

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Re: objprelink and KDE/QT

2001-08-09 Thread John Gay
On Thursday 09 August 2001 20:34, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 08:43:43PM +0200, Wolfgang Ratzka wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag,  9. August 2001 04:36 schrieb Ivan E. Moore II:
> > >   For x86 builds we are now using the objprelink process.  What does
> > > this mean to you?  Well on average a 20%-30% increase in application
> > > startup time.
> >
> > Increase in startup time? I hope not :-P.
>
> everyone likes a little ass...nobody likes a smart one.
>
> :)
Except the one in Shrek! Made on Linux, by the way.

Cheers,

John Gay




Re: Font permissions?

2001-08-09 Thread Alexander Firyn
It seems, there are only problems with Apps based on GTK, so it could be an 
error in ~/.gtkrc. You should delete (or rename) this file, GTK-Apps then 
will use the global configuration in /etc.

Good luck,
Alexander Firyn




Re: objprelink and KDE/QT

2001-08-09 Thread Hendrik Naumann
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> well, 64MB is it. Actually, my laptop with 64MB wasn't useable very
> well. (it was running ONLY KDE, before login a 'ps axuw' was 10-12
> processes, nothing big). But it started swapping at once and
> compiling something while in KDE wasn't realistic. (trashing)
>
> it's MUCH better with 192MB now. ;)

That's why I am really thankful that the kde1 debs are still 
available for potato. And I hope it will not be too much pain 
recompiling it for woody if it is released.

Hendrik

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Re: objprelink and KDE/QT

2001-08-09 Thread Bruce Sass
On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Jens Benecke wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 08:36:14PM -0600, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
> > Ok folks,
> >
> > I know at least one person is interested in this as he's been beating
> > me up over this for a week. :)  So...here's an update and info.
>
> I guess we are all interested in a speed boost. GREAT Work!! ;)
>
> > For x86 builds we are now using the objprelink process.  What does this
> > mean to you?  Well on average a 20%-30% increase in application start..
> > .qt will be uploaded tonight most likely.  KDE 2.2 (final) packages
> > will be out soon and we'll see if this helps some of you on older
> > hardware.
>
> This is really great work. Thanks a lot!! ;)
>
> (I have a heap of older machines to maintain (P-233 mostly) and they are
> just barely useable with KDE2. This should make a lot of difference if it
> works.

hehe, you probably just need more RAM, and patience. :)

I'm running on a 486DX2-25 (64M RAM); once you get past the startup
time, and figure out you can't jump around between more apps than will
fit into RAM without paying a swap time penalty... it works quite well
for basic tasks.  Of course, you disable anything with `animate' or
`hover' in it, and don't expect stuff that requires a lot of number
crunching to be fast (e.g., rendering HTML is almost as fast as
Netscape, but converting XML to HTML then rendering is painful because
it happens at the wrong time ;-).


Ivan, THANK YOU


- Bruce




Re: objprelink and KDE/QT

2001-08-09 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 08:43:43PM +0200, Wolfgang Ratzka wrote:
> Am Donnerstag,  9. August 2001 04:36 schrieb Ivan E. Moore II:
> 
> >   For x86 builds we are now using the objprelink process.  What does this
> > mean to you?  Well on average a 20%-30% increase in application startup
> > time.  
> 
> Increase in startup time? I hope not :-P.

everyone likes a little ass...nobody likes a smart one. 

:)

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Re: Complete KDE-Logout with dcop

2001-08-09 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
On Thursday, 9. August 2001 17:24, Jens Benecke wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 04:57:35PM +0200, Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I'm currently experimenting with the acpi stuff of my laptop. Now I'm
> > looking for a simple way to logout an user _without_ any questions.
>
> Simple.
>
>   $ killall kdeinit

Hehe ;-)
I just wanted to leave a chance for applications to save... But thats the way it
works now. Calling "init 0" from acpid when the power button gets pressed...
Was just wondering if there's a more clean way for that. I already patched the
acpid to read config files, whats missing now is some kind of "application 
registering"
to give kde a chance to quit properly.

Greetings,
-Cajus




"Certificate Signing Authority is unknown or invalid"

2001-08-09 Thread Paul Winkler

I recently upgraded to debian unstable (2.2.18) and kde 2.2 beta1.

When connecting to my online banking account kde tells me -
  "Certificate Signing Authority is unknown or invalid"
and refuses to process my requests.

The upgrade was performed with apt-get dist-upgrade, and went amazingly well 
- no problems that I know of.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Paul Winkler





Re: objprelink and KDE/QT

2001-08-09 Thread Wolfgang Ratzka
Am Donnerstag,  9. August 2001 04:36 schrieb Ivan E. Moore II:

>   For x86 builds we are now using the objprelink process.  What does this
> mean to you?  Well on average a 20%-30% increase in application startup
> time.  

Increase in startup time? I hope not :-P.

-- 
Wolfgang Ratzka




Re: kdm won't start kde2

2001-08-09 Thread Slaven Peles
> On Tuesday 07 August 2001 16:13, uhlhorsr wrote:
> > Hi all-
> >
> > I had to blast my system and reinstall potato. I got task-kde from
> > kde.debian.net and got kdm running, but I can't launch kde2 from kdm.
> > Blackbox and twm are launched from default and failsafe. The
> > x-window-manager alternative points to /usr/bin/blackbox. I tried to
> > change this to kde2 by running 'update-alternatives --config
> > x-window-manager', but only twm and blackbox are listed as options. How
> > do I change this alternative, or get kdm to launch kde2?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Stephen

In section 'Login Manager' under tab 'Sessions' try to add new session 
'startkde'. Aliases kde or kde2 didn't work for me for some reason. 

Slaven




Re: kdm won't start kde2

2001-08-09 Thread Kaltan
Consult the kdm help page and the configcenter helppage in the 'khelpcenter' 
program.  
Especially the kdm handbook (html pages like 
/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdm/different-window-managers-with-kdm.html ) is 
very helpful for configuring your problem.

just starting 'kcontrol'and going to the loginmanager section could also do 
the trick.

regards, K.

On Tuesday 07 August 2001 16:13, uhlhorsr wrote:
> Hi all-
>
> I had to blast my system and reinstall potato. I got task-kde from
> kde.debian.net and got kdm running, but I can't launch kde2 from kdm.
> Blackbox and twm are launched from default and failsafe. The
> x-window-manager alternative points to /usr/bin/blackbox. I tried to change
> this to kde2 by running 'update-alternatives --config x-window-manager',
> but only twm and blackbox are listed as options. How do I change this
> alternative, or get kdm to launch kde2?
>
> Thanks,
> Stephen




Font permissions?

2001-08-09 Thread David Eidson
I'm not sure if there's such a thing, but I have one user who is having 
problems with fonts on a Debian potato (all stable) machine with KDE 2.1.
Things are 99% ok with the exception of weirdness involving any Gnome/GTK 
related apps and one user.  Gimp for example.  At Gimp's start up, there is 
no text displayed in the splash window.  Then when the 'tip of the day' 
window appears, again no text. Finally, when the main Gimp widget opens, 
there is no text in the menu bar.  You can guess where the menu items are, 
click there and it all works.
Also, the gnomecal program.  It works fine unless you access the help/about
menu.  The about screen has no text, just some sqaure boxes where the letters 
should be.  Of 9 users on this lan, he is the only one that has this problem.
As is always the case "this just started happening for no reason, I didn't 
try to change anything"   My kingdom for a hidden camera!  
I should also mention that all KDE apps, and non-gnome X apps in general 
appear to behave just fine for him and all other users.  Anyone have any 
ideas at where I might look for a solution?  TIA!

-- 
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help with korganizer

2001-08-09 Thread James D. Freels
Perhaps, this is not the correct forum, but I am definitely a debian 
and kde user.

I have been trying korganizer.  Everything appears to be working except 
the notification feature.  When an appointment hits, there is not 
e-mail, no sounds played, no beep, no pop-up window.  Nothing.

Does anyone know what I might be missing here?

-- 
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Oak Ridge National Laboratory
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Re: kdm Does Not Recognize kuser

2001-08-09 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Thursday 09 August 2001 13:20, Robert Tilley wrote:
> I've added a user to my system via kuser (User Manager) but my kdm login does 
> not recognize that this user exists as only one icon (root) appears in my 
> login dialog.
> 
> This user has a home directory and kuser displays this user, but kdm does not 
> appear to recognize this user as existing.
> 
> Any information would be most helpful!

Maybe you don't use the standard UID range for users and therefore kdm ignores
it (by default).

ds10(0) ~ > grep ^M.*UID /etc/kde2/kdm/kdmrc
MinShowUID=1000
MaxShowUID=2

If this is not the reason check the kdmrc file the other settings that
determine which users kdm lists.

Achim
> 
> Robert
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  a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated.
  You discover truth everytime you use it.
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Re: kdm Does Not Recognize kuser

2001-08-09 Thread Frank Zimmermann
Robert Tilley wrote:
I've added a user to my system via kuser (User Manager) but my kdm login does 
not recognize that this user exists as only one icon (root) appears in my 
login dialog.

This user has a home directory and kuser displays this user, but kdm does not 
appear to recognize this user as existing.

Any information would be most helpful!
Robert
AFAIR there is somewhere in the K-Control Center a way to configure 
wich users are displayed in kdm, you can choose your own icons for 
each user as well. Otherwise why not just typing the username in kdm??

Frank



Re: objprelink and KDE/QT

2001-08-09 Thread Maximilian Reiss
Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2001 04:36 schrieb Ivan E. Moore II:
y> Ok folks,
>
> I know at least one person is interested in this as he's been beating
> me up over this for a week. :)  So...here's an update and info.
>


Wondering who this was? *g*

> I *just* found the problem I have been fighting with for a week now which
> was causing my qt libs to end up being an extra 2+meg.  So now that I got
> that fixed I'll be uploading a new set of libqt* packages.  Here are the
> changes:
>
>   I spent quite a bit of time cleaning up the build process to take care
> of some custom needs for different platforms.  During this process I
> merged in the libqt2-gl build bits into the qt-x11 source.  This reduces
> the size of the source archive by 10+ megs.
>


By the way, do you have some build scriptes like you execute it and in the 
and all the debs are ready? :-)

>   I merged in some patches out of the qt-copy CVS tree.  This should
> clear up some problems some of you might have had.
>
>   For x86 builds we are now using the objprelink process.  What does this
> mean to you?  Well on average a 20%-30% increase in application startup
> time.  In order for this to work the application you are using (g++
> application to be specific) must have been built using this process. 
> Currently this is just for x86 but eventually the code will exsist for
> other archs (there are beta powerpc bits out there now).


It can be even faster, close to 50%. On a pII > 300 Mhz the bottlenet should 
be the speed of the hd now.

>
>
> so...qt will be uploaded tonight most likely.  KDE 2.2 (final) packages
> will be out soon and we'll see if this helps some of you on older hardware.
>
> if you are a KDE package maintainer for Debian and you want to follow suite
> take a look at the CVS code for any of the packages I maintain and you'll
> see the code.  Basically 2 bits...one in debian/rules and one in
> admin/acinclude.m4.in.  (remember that this should only be done for x86
> builds)
>
> if you have any questions please feel free to contact me.  And if you
> want a copy of the kdelibs 2.2 final packages prior to Monday so you can
> upload at the same time let me know and I can drop them somewhere for you.
>

maybe you should put then in your repository so people can check them out and 
report bigger Problems!

Max




kdm Does Not Recognize kuser

2001-08-09 Thread Robert Tilley
I've added a user to my system via kuser (User Manager) but my kdm login does 
not recognize that this user exists as only one icon (root) appears in my 
login dialog.

This user has a home directory and kuser displays this user, but kdm does not 
appear to recognize this user as existing.

Any information would be most helpful!

Robert




KDEbian FAQ

2001-08-09 Thread Jaime Robles
Debian & KDE users FAQ V-0.1

Jaime Robles ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Begin 27/Jan/2001
Last update 16/Mar/2001

This FAQ comes from the Debian & KDE user list: 
"debian-kde@lists.debian.org"

0.-Question: Where can I find the last version of this FAQ?
   Answer: 27 Jan 2001
You can find it in http://kde.debian.net

1.-Q: Is there a list for KDE & Debian users?
   A: 27 Jan 2001
Yes, the email address is: debian-kde@lists.debian.org

2.-Q: How can I subscribe the  "debian-kde@lists.debian.org"
   A: 27 Jan 2001
Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the 
subject "subscribe".

3.-Q: Where are the Release schedules?

4.-Q: Is there any web for KDE & Debian?
   A: 27 Jan 2001
Please try http://kde.debian.net

5.-Q: What's avail and what's not?

6.-Q: How do I install it...I can't find a package called "kde"?
   A: 27 Jan 2001
Go to http://kde.debian.net/  find a mirror close to 
you...throw that apt line
in...apt-get install task-kde.


7.-Q: What is the proper line to add to /etc/apt/sources.list?
   A: 16 Mar 2001
Look at http://kde.debian.net  Apt lines are listed with a 
breakdown
of what they are..however they are:
main = current release of KDE + all required and 
optional packages
crypto = crypto packages (libssl + -crypto kde modules)
optional = some extra packages I packaged with no 
warranty
kde2 = KDE 2.0.1 packages (old)
qt1apps = Really old (and unsupported) QT1/KDE1 apps
sword = Sword modules converted from .rpm via alien 
(needed for sword and Bibletime)

8.-Q: BTW, what is this 'sources.list'?
   A: 16 Mar 2001
Package resource list for APT.  The  package  resource  list is 
used to
locate archives of the package distribution system in use on 
the  system.
At this  time,  this manual page documents only the packaging
system used by the Debian GNU/Linux system.  This  control
file is located in /etc/apt/sources.list

9.-Q: Where do I go for non-Debian specific info about KDE?
   A: 16 Mar 2001
Please try http://www.kde.org

10.-Q: How do I know if I should ask here, or kde.org?
  A: 16 Mar 2001
If you are using Debian and KDE and your problem is a KDE 
related problem... ask here!
If the problem is with KDE there is no harm in asking on the 
Debian KDE
list first.  Actually it's prefered if you check the Debian KDE 
list archive
first.  http://lists.debian.org  as Ivan will publically flog 
you if you ask a FAQ.  :)

11.-Q: What are the differences between Debian KDE and other(RedHat) 
KDE?
  A: 16 Mar 2001
Most distribution based packages will be customized somewhat.  
Debian's is
pretty much stock.  The main things we customize are:

Custom start/stop scripts for things like kdm
Integration of the Debian menu system
Conformation to the Debian Policy (see www.debian.org 
for it)
We break some packages out into their own packages 
(kmail,konqueror,etc)
Added documentation, and little cosmetic things here 
and there...

It mostly depends on users...what they recommend or request 
goes along way
with the Debian builds.

12.-Q: Where can I download a KDevelop .deb?
A: 27 Jan 2001
It used to be in a separated place.
Nowadays KDevelop with the other files :-)

13.-Q: What are the packages installed by task-kde and what are the 
others
   I have to install one by one.?
A: 27 Jan 2001
For offline viewing do "apt-get update", then use dselect, 
console-apt, aptitude, etc.
Online, use http://www.debian.org/Packages to see what is 
available, then either download and do "dpkg -i ..."
or use "apt-get ...

14.-Q: How to install one package at a time as well as with task-kde
(it can be easier if you have a slow or time limited 
connection).

15.-Q:  Who do I report what bugs to?
A: 16 Mar 2001
The best way to deal with things is to check both Bug Tracking 
Systems
first before reporting a bug.  http://bugs.debian.org  
http://bugs.kde.org

16.-Q:If I install a package, how I can know what programs 
(executables) will be settled to the hard drive. Or a simpler way: what 
are the commands I have to use after installation.
A: 16 Mar 2001
You can always look at what files were installed by checking
/var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.list

-- 
Un saludo,
Jaime Robles
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