Re: Need help fixing KDE

2001-10-30 Thread John Gay

What happens with:
apt-get -t unstable install kdelib3 (and so on)

John Batistic

Even that fails with similar messages. Basically, the problem was that
kdelibs3_4%2.2.1 managed to install itself but kde will not install because
it's looking for packages that are not even in unstable yet.

After much fighting and swearing, I eventually partially fixed the problem
using dpkg --force-downgrade --force-overwrite -i kdelibs3_4%2.1.1* and
several other packages that had been upgrade to 2.2.1 I had to list several
packages on the one command due to the same packages provided by different
packages in the different versions. I can finally log into KDE again, but
kmail and konqueror both fail to start due to something about not finding
Polish_7KDialog even though I only use English? I tried to re-install and
reconfigure these packages, but I still have this problem, so I'm still
stuck with Mozilla for mail at the moment.

Of course these are the types of problem to be expecting from unstable. I
probably just picked a bad time to try upgrading jsut when Ivan had updated
several things but the all haven't reached the mirrors yet. I think for the
moment, I'll stay with testing, once I can get this polish problem worked
out.

Thanks for all the ideas and help! I can't imaging getting this type of
assistance from Redmond!

Cheers,

 John Gay




can't compile any kdevelop source projects...

2001-10-30 Thread Andy Toenz
Hi,

i downloaded several tar.gz's from the web to compile them local (because 
there are no .deb packages out there).

e.g. Guarddog

The problem is, that all programs come with old /admin directories. In 
those directories the check for automake greater 1.4 is made, and fails if 
found such a version.

Fact is:
testing uses automake 1.5.x
kde-apps needs automake  1.4

Isn't it possible to update kapptemplate.deb to a version that supports 
automake  1.4 ?
Or to provide a second package (e.g. kapptemplate.automake1.5.deb) ??

A probably working /admin directory is in the KDE-CVS tree

sincerly
Andy




QTDIR

2001-10-30 Thread Mark Constable
Please excuse a naive quetsion... I want to compile Muse
( http://muse.seh.de ) and in its make.inc it has a setting
for QTDIR but best I can determine the original QT packages
are splt up on Debian so how do I define a single QTDIR
env variable for compiling KDE/QT apps under Debian ?

Or, is there other some strategy for doing such things,
like downlioad the original QT tarballs and put them in
/usr/local/qt so dependencies can be easily satisfied  ?

And, is QT3 anywhere near complete enough for a novice to
play with ? Muse 0.4.15 will build under QT3 apparently.

--markc




Re: QTDIR

2001-10-30 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 07:35:06PM +1000, Mark Constable wrote:
 Please excuse a naive quetsion... I want to compile Muse
 ( http://muse.seh.de ) and in its make.inc it has a setting
 for QTDIR but best I can determine the original QT packages
 are splt up on Debian so how do I define a single QTDIR
 env variable for compiling KDE/QT apps under Debian ?
 
 Or, is there other some strategy for doing such things,
 like downlioad the original QT tarballs and put them in
 /usr/local/qt so dependencies can be easily satisfied  ?
 
 And, is QT3 anywhere near complete enough for a novice to
 play with ? Muse 0.4.15 will build under QT3 apparently.

QTDIR can be set to /usr/share/qt on Debian if needed.  As for
QT3 it's no longer beta.

Ivan

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Re: KDE: mouse problems

2001-10-30 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Roland Wegmann wrote:
Hello,
I have a curious mouse problem! When I start debian, the system 
recognizes my mouse (MS Wheel Mouse Optical USB) first. After kdm is 
launched, sometimes my mouse is inactive sometimes it works.
In the former case I have to reboot the system (sometimes several 
times), but then the mouse works under KDE 2.1.1, too. Under X-Window 
the mouse was active in any case.

Could you give me some help, please?
Does your system behavior match that reported in bug 113022?
http://bugs.debian.org/113022
Also, does anyone notice similar behavior to 113022 using a non-fbdev X 
driver?  I've noticed it on PowerPC and ARM both using the fbdev driver 
(offb on PPC, cyber2000fb on ARM), so with fbdev as the common thing, 
that's what I suspect is at fault...

Zeen,
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Re: KDE: mouse problems

2001-10-30 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2001-10-30 at 15:09, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
 Roland Wegmann wrote:
 
  I have a curious mouse problem! When I start debian, the system 
  recognizes my mouse (MS Wheel Mouse Optical USB) first. After kdm is 
  launched, sometimes my mouse is inactive sometimes it works.
  In the former case I have to reboot the system (sometimes several 
  times), but then the mouse works under KDE 2.1.1, too. Under X-Window 
  the mouse was active in any case.
 
  Could you give me some help, please?
 
 Does your system behavior match that reported in bug 113022?
 http://bugs.debian.org/113022
 
 Also, does anyone notice similar behavior to 113022 using a non-fbdev X 
 driver?  I've noticed it on PowerPC and ARM both using the fbdev driver 
 (offb on PPC, cyber2000fb on ARM), so with fbdev as the common thing, 
 that's what I suspect is at fault...

Maybe, you could try enabling debug output in the fbdev driver and/or
the fbdevhw module.

Some display managers have an option to always restart the X server on
session exit, that might serve as a workaround.


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Printable fonts in koffice?

2001-10-30 Thread Olaf Stetzer
Hello,

I am at the beginning of a trial to move my major
office-work from MS to KDE. In this (somewhat stony)
path I encountered the following problem:

Not all of the fonts which are accessible from within
kword or kresenter are good for printing, there are some
fonts which cause gs /preview) and also the printers to stop
processing the ps-file. One of these fonts is crillee
if you want to test it out. How do I get around this?
Will this be resolved when kde is linked against qt3?
I use the recent packages from sid but yet did not edit
any of the font-related config-files. I also use AA but it
seems to work fine without any editing.

Olaf




Re: Kwork/Koffice

2001-10-30 Thread P. de Vicente
El Mar 30 Oct 2001 11:41, Jens Benecke escribió:
 On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 08:57:12PM +0100, Jens Benecke wrote:
  On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 02:36:01PM -0500, Bob Koss wrote:
   Would TeX (LaTeX) be a suitable replacement for PowerPoint?
 
  Depends.

 OK, I correct myself. I've just seen prosper (see other post in this
 thread) and I'm amazed. I actually didn't expect this to be possible with
 LaTeX (although, I didn't think anything would be _IM_possible with LaTeX
 either... whatever ;).

 I agree too. I constantly work with LaTeX and I was completely surprised to 
see the screenshots. I am going to try prosper.

Pablo de Vicente
KDE Spanish translation team.




Re: Need help fixing KDE

2001-10-30 Thread P. de Vicente
El Mar 30 Oct 2001 00:02, John Gay escribió:
 After the serious problems of last nights attempts to install KDE2.2
 I've now found myself stuck with a broken KDE and no apperent way to fix
 it? Everything I try insists on removing ALL of KDE! I can't install KDE
 from unstable due to missing packages, but I can't fix my previous
 set-up either. apt-get install kde/unstable produces:

 progeny:/home/jgay# apt-get install kde/unstable
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Selected version 4:2.2.8 (Debian:unstable) for kde
 You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
 Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
kde: Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.2.1-12) but 4:2.1.2-3 is to be installed
 Depends: libkmid (= 4:2.2.1-12) or
  libkmid-alsa (= 4:2.2.1-12) but it is not going to be
 installed
 Depends: kdebase-audiolibs (= 4:2.2.1.0-4) but it is not going
 to be installed
 Depends: libkdenetwork1 (= 4:2.2.1-1) but it is not going to be
 installed
 Depends: kate (= 4:2.2.1.0-4) but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: konsole (= 4:2.2.1.0-4) but it is not going to be
 installed
 Depends: kscreensaver (= 4:2.2.1.0-4) but it is not going to be
 installed
 Depends: kruler but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: kdict but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: artsbuilder but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: noatun but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: knewsticker but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: ktimer but it is not going to be installed
 Depends: kcoloredit but it is not going to be installed
kdebase: Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.2.1-11) but 4:2.1.2-3 is to be
 installed
kdebase-libs: Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.2.1-11) but 4:2.1.2-3 is to
 be installed
konqueror: Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.2.1-11) but 4:2.1.2-3 is to be
 installed
libkonq3: Depends: kdelibs3 (= 4:2.2.1-11) but 4:2.1.2-3 is to be
 installed
 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
 specify a solution).
 progeny:/home/jgay#
   As you can see, there are several packages that just won't be
 installed, and this stops me from installing KDE from unstable at all.
 I've tried both dselect and apt to try to get back to my original
 set-up, but the first thing that needs to be removed is kdelibs3 4:2.2.1
 and this forces the removal of ALL my current KDE! I don't want to loose
 everything! But I do want to get KDE back. Gnome is just too awkward for
 me to use. Does anyone know how I can reverse this without loosing
 everything? I've even had to resort to using Mozilla for my mail because
 kmail is broke too.

  Here comes another advise from the many you have received. 
I would remove all KDE and reinstall again and I would remove it orderly. I 
think that measure is not a drastric one, altough it seems it is, because:
- You will keep your ~/.kde which contains all your personal 
settings.
- You do not need to download all packages again provided you do not 
apt-get update since the last time you did and you did not apt-get clean, 
because they are already in /var/cache/apt/archives. 

 I think I found your same problem in one machine when moving from potato to 
woody + KDE 2.2.1 some time ago, and the way I sorted it out was to remove 
all KDE and reinstall from unstable (directly to KDE 2.2.1 not upgrade from 
KDE 2.1.1). 

Hope that helps,

Pablo de Vicente
KDE spanish translation team




Re: Creating new kernel with initrd?, Custom kernel: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 21:05

2001-10-30 Thread Timothy Webster

Has anybody else who has experience this problem found a solution?

Please append a correct root= boot option
kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:03

-tim.

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#include hallo.h
Timothy Webster wrote on Mon Oct 29, 2001 um 04:52:54PM:
 Upgrading to 2.4.12-k6 with initrd works fine.

 Using kernellab I create a new kernel 2.4.12-ac6

kernellab is a debian package that can be used to create a kernel from
a linux kernel source + an alancox patch. Here I am using
the linux kernel source 2.4.12 patched with alan's ac6 patch.





What is kernellab? Whatever, if you take official Linus' sources,
don't use them. They don't support for many filesystems on initrd,
including cramfs needed by our mkinitrd. Use the kernel-source-2.4.13
package from Sid.




 ==
 Ramdisk: Couldn't find vaild RAM disk image starting at 0.

The line preceding this is important. But it looks like
initrd-vs.-cramfs fuckage.

Gruss/Regards,
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Re: Flash Konqueror -- Coexistence in Question

2001-10-30 Thread Mike Williams
   On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:53:25 -0500,
   Stephen == Stephen Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Stephen Try going to Control Center, File Browsing, File
  Stephen Associations. Expand application. Pick x-shockwave-flash. Pick
  Stephen the Embedding tab. Mine was set to Use settings for
  Stephen 'application' group. I changed that to Show files in embedded
  Stephen viewer.  ...

  Stephen Let me know if this works for you!

This worked for me at home.  

However, Flash is still broken on my work PC.  The plugin is definitely
starting (I can right-click on the embedding Flash movie, and get a menu
including About Flash Player 4...), but seems to be having problems
loading content.  

The difference is that here at work I'm behind a firewall/HTTP-proxy.
Could it be that konq isn't passing on my proxy settings to the plugin?

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Re: Yet another anti-aliased KDE screenshot

2001-10-30 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
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On Tuesday 30 October 2001 05:48, Daniel Robert Franklin wrote:
 So, in short, if you actually want to see the font, as opposed to a bunch
 of artifacts, you need to use anti-aliasing. Don't mistake smoothness for
 blurring.

That was some nice explanation. Anti-aliasing is something you ought to 
integrate in any display system, or you will have jagged edges. Thus, some of 
the hype associated with Mac OS X's Carbon.

I'd always thought anti-aliasing was simply resampling, tho'. Which means 
there is actually some blending but not blurring, most algorithms are careful 
enough not to degrade image quality. On the other hand, the end result varies 
since there are different algorithms.

I find the KDE AA satisfactory on XFree86, tho. The fonts look good on a 
hi-res display. I think that was one advantage Windoze had, only until 
recently :)

If you're viewing that screenshot with konqueror you will see a fairly 
accurate representation of what I'm using but if you use an image viewer that 
resamples that further for you, it will indeed look blurry.

My feeling is that especially web pages look a lot more like they were 
intended to.

So, could you tell me about your font settings?

Thanks,

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Re: Yet another anti-aliased KDE screenshot

2001-10-30 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
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On Tuesday 30 October 2001 01:36, Dan Born wrote:
 That's rather impressive.  I have a bunch of true type fonts, and
 anti-aliasing turned on in kde, but the only font available for a fixed
 width font under the control center is the fixed font, and fixed is the
 only thing available in konsole.  This is ugly looking...  how do I fix it?


Yes, I like the fonts as well :) I got mad trying out all different fonts, 
because at first there weren't many fonts available and I had to go back to 
bitmapped fonts.

You ought to start installing alternative fonts then. Summon apt.
$ apt-cache search true.*type

The following packages seem worthwhile:
fttools - FreeType font utilities.
x-ttcidfont-conf - Configure TrueType and CID fonts for X.
msttcorefonts - Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts
ttf-commercial - Install or share some commercial truetype fonts with windows.

And of course
anti-aliasing-howto - Anti Aliasing metapackage

The qt-fonts-HOWTO.html pretty much covers which fonts you can use.

Also, I'm not sure why you can't use any bitmapped fonts when you start using 
AA. Rather weird.

Lucida Console looks good with konsole but is it really better than fixed 
(misc). 

Thanks,

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Re: Yet another anti-aliased KDE screenshot

2001-10-30 Thread Daniel Robert Franklin
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 On Tuesday 30 October 2001 05:48, Daniel Robert Franklin wrote:
  So, in short, if you actually want to see the font, as opposed to a bunch
  of artifacts, you need to use anti-aliasing. Don't mistake smoothness for
  blurring.
 
 That was some nice explanation. Anti-aliasing is something you ought to 
 integrate in any display system, or you will have jagged edges. Thus, some of 
 the hype associated with Mac OS X's Carbon.

Definitely. OSX takes it one step further though, although I don't think it
takes it far enough. My personal preference would be the total elimination
of the pixel as a concept for user-interface design, rather to have
everything in terms of vectors, geometric lines etc, then use a simple
rendering engine to sample that and turn it into pixels. Then you would be
able to do arbitrary scaling, translation and rotation with the aid of
hardware acceleration (much like the user-interface on the excellent QuArK
Quake map editor). You could use scalable dimensionally-normalised eps files
or some such thing for icons, buttons etc. I don't know if the WIMP paradigm
would still work in that environment, but it certainly would be interesting
to find out, or to develop something better :)

 
 I'd always thought anti-aliasing was simply resampling, tho'.

Well, AA comes into that too - if you have an image with 600 dpi resolution
and you want to display it on a monitor with 100 dpi resolution you need to
downsample it. But this is not as simple as taking every 6th pixel (though
that is the way it is sometimes done). You need to low-pass filter it first,
or you will see artifacts. The effect is similar to sampling an analog
signal. Accurately changing the sample rate to something which is not 1/N (N
being an integer) (e.g. from 600 to 83 dpi) requires upsampling and then
downsampling - but you still need to filter.

 Which means there is actually some blending but not blurring, most
 algorithms are careful enough not to degrade image quality. On the other
 hand, the end result varies since there are different algorithms.

Yes. The precise digital filter used can be of many different designs, but
all are imperfect (a digital filter would need to be infinitely long for it
to be perfect). You will always get some aliasing but it should be much less
than with no filter (hopefully below the threshold of perception).

Forgive me for rabbiting on, as a DSP-obsessed electrical engineer, it's a
subject which is close to my heart :)

- Daniel

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korinoco and kreatecd in debian sid

2001-10-30 Thread Christophe Prud'homme
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Hi all,

two new Kde apps made it today in Debian unstable
korinoco -- an very nice interface for wireless cards
kreatecd -- a very nice and featureful CD burner 

After installation they will appear automagically in the Application(s) menu

best regards
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question about konq

2001-10-30 Thread Sunny Dubey
heya everyone

I love konqueror and all, and I think its the best thing besides sliced 
bread, and elvis, however I have this one *slight* problem 

why is it everytime I pop open a new Konq window, I swear my system is 
loading all the konq binaries, and libs all over again.  that gets really 
really irratating after a while.  (shouldn't konq just open a new window on 
the fly, if it already is in memory???)

or am I the only one wiht this weird problem??

thanks much for any info

Sunny Dubey

PS:  I'm running the lastest version of everything of SID on my crappy-laptop




Re: Schmoozing for Ivan: Final

2001-10-30 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Well...there was interest in what I spent the money and all on.  The original
intet was that the REI gift cert was going to be for me to spend on me and
the rest was for me to spend on my wife and I...however my wife reversed
that. :)  She wanted a nice winter jacket and so we went out and spent
almost the whole gift cert on a nice winter jacket.  The rest I get to
spend on me...so I am purchasing (actually tomorrow) a mountain bike and
accessories.  Something to get me out of the house and something that's 
good for me.  

Again to all of you who pitched in either financially or by other means,
(volunteering, packaging, etc...) 

  Thanks!

Ivan


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