Re: status of 2.2.1

2001-11-15 Thread John Gay
On Thursday 15 November 2001 01:54, G. L. `Griz' Inabnit wrote:
   Nope. But he's got a number of packages done. Yer isolated. Sure enough.

   Yes Jaye, there IS a Santa Clause! And not only that, yer box has 
 already
 been updated (ain't big bros handy?) and NO, yer NOT running a full 2.2.x
 system. Ivan (bless that man) is still working with the upstream people,
 and his own boxes to get the packages all updated. But you've got SOME of
 them.

 :--)

  kate   2.2.1.0-6
  kbattleship2.2.0-final-2
  kdecarddecks   2.2.0-final-2
  kdelibs3   2.2.1-14
  kdelibs3-crypt 2.2.1-11
  kdelibs3-cups  2.2.1-14
  kdessh 2.2.1-1.2
  kdewallpapers  2.2.1.0-6
  klines 2.2.0-final-2
  konqueror  2.2.1.0-6
  konsole2.2.1.0-6
  kscreensaver   2.2.1
 .0-6
  ktimer 2.2.1-1.4

   So, that's where yer at now. Most everything should work well now. Enjoy
 it.

  tia

I noticed the new KDE2.2 packages in the testing tree. Currently I'm running 
testing with the unstable KDE packages, thanks to plenty of help getting the 
two to co-operate on my system. I was hoping that with KDE2.2 finally 
starting to migrate into testing to remove the unstable references in my 
sources.list and stay sync'd with testing.

Does anyone know if this could lead to problems, or can apt keep things 
straight for me?

I have not done a proper dist-upgrade since I suceeded in getting the 
unstable packages to install because my system now wants to install many 
non-kde related packages from unstable, hence my desire to return to a pure 
testing platform as soon as the archives catch up with what I currently have 
from unstable now.

Thanks again for all the work and effort that everyone has put into packaging 
KDE for Debian and all the help with my preferences and sources.list to 
getting KDE2.2.1 running for me in the first place!

Cheers,

John Gay




KStyle breakage

2001-11-15 Thread Josh Hansen
Sort of...
I am trying to compile KDE Styles such as the .NET style under the KDE CVS. 
The compiler says it can't find files like kstyle.h and kdethemestyle.h. Do I 
not have my includes setup right? What do I need to do in order to get this 
working? Thank you!

- Josh




Re: This made my day ;)

2001-11-15 Thread Franz Keferboeck
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On Wednesday 14 November 2001 20:39, Jens Benecke wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 07:31:37PM +0100, Franz Keferboeck wrote:
  On Wednesday 14 November 2001 17:52, Jens Benecke wrote:
   http://www.theregister.co.uk/media/677.jpg
   http://freespace.virgin.net/andrew.harrison4/
  
   Wait for it, it's worth it. ;)
 
  It is...  everything clicks. even this you don't want to...

 Well... XP would be much better if it didn't contain all these MS-isms that
 try to lure you into total Microsoft control. (Media Player, Passport,
 Hotmail, WMA, Product Activation, etc etc etc ...)

  I just had to correct a homework (of a 1st semester computer science
  student) who attached winXP screenshots... I didn't know that it is THAT

 er... what kind of exercise requires screenshots??

Well, require's the wrong term; he just attached! We want the (damn) 
Java-code (i hate java...), the inputs as well as the outputs (even with 
windows you can do such primitive piping I think...); But this guy attached a 
screenshot of the editor he typed the java-code with () and a 
command-window where he executed the code with...
However, we had some exercises last year where we had to attach screenshots; 
these were those dealing with AWT and Swing; these made me hate Java so much 
- - and love QT/KDE, which is with c++ the best framework with the best (though 
not fastest) programming language available (but that's just my opinion and i 
don't want to offend anybody...)

SNIP
 This is and will stay Windows for Teletubbies for me. That's what it
 looks like, and that's the target audience. If you're still six, you might
 enjoy all these blinkenlights, but serious professional work seems next to
 impossible.

I never hear this, Windows for Teletubbies, but it's nice;-) What you said 
about the audience:
If anybody REALLY thought about it and came to the conclusion that he/she 
wants to work with windows, i'll respect that (though there'll be a lot and 
long discussions...). But if someone calls himself a Computer Scientist and 
he likes windows because I don't have to think about anything, it's a 
contradictio in eo! But: Almost no-one makes a decission by usign windows!!! 
I want to make a survey asking people in the street Why did you choose 
MS-Windwos?. Noone chose it, is there something else? or It was with my 
computer will be the answers! Microsoft's domination is NOT a matter of it's 
Operating System's strength (I think we all agree on this) but it's impact 
on media and vendors. Not a single daily Newspaper wrote about KDE 2.0, Linux 
2.4, Gnome 1.4 or anything like that; but ALL had an article about the latest 
Windows in their Technology-section (which is a populistic column for 
gamers and wannabes...)

OK, pretty much philosophy (and a lot of typos), but i had to get rid of 
this!!!

Franz

- -- 
Wenn auch die Sicherheit vor den Menschen bis zu einem gewissen Grade
eintritt durch eine bestimmte Macht, Störungen zu beseitigen, und
durch Reichtum, so entspringt doch die reinste Sicherheit aus der Ruhe
und dem Rückzug aus der Masse. (Epikur)
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XF86_SVGA uses 99%cpu

2001-11-15 Thread Matt Collier
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after 6 minutes or so of not touching the mouse, XF86_SVGA suddenly starts to 
use 99%cpu, and continues that way until i move the mouse again.
i think this is a kde problem, energy saving, screen savers, etc are disabled 
and disabling gpm has no effect
has anybody else had this problem, and does anyone have an idea what to do 
about it?

thanks
Matt Collier
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Upgraded to 2.2 - mail now broken

2001-11-15 Thread derekgladding
Being a complete coward, I waited on my 2.2 upgrade until it appeared in 
testing. Yesterday, I joyously upgraded and sat back to enjoy the wonders that 
I had been hearing about on this list.

Unfortunately my mail (in kmail) seems now to be broken. All new mail is 
reported as No Subject Unknown Wed Dec 31 15:59:59 1969

Is this a known problem ? Have I done something stupid ?

- Derek




Re: Upgraded to 2.2 - mail now broken

2001-11-15 Thread Stephan Jaensch
On Thursday 15 November 2001 22:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Being a complete coward, I waited on my 2.2 upgrade until it appeared in
 testing. Yesterday, I joyously upgraded and sat back to enjoy the wonders
 that I had been hearing about on this list.

 Unfortunately my mail (in kmail) seems now to be broken. All new mail is
 reported as No Subject Unknown Wed Dec 31 15:59:59 1969

 Is this a known problem ? Have I done something stupid ?

There are hidden .index - files in your mail directory. The filenames are 
.folder-name.index, e.g. .inbox.index, .drafts.index and so on. Deleting 
these worked for me. But be sure to back up that directory before messing 
with any files in it.

-- 
Ciao...




Re: Upgraded to 2.2 - mail now broken

2001-11-15 Thread Derek Gladding
On Thursday 15 November 2001 01:56 pm, you wrote:
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 On Thursday 15 November 2001 22:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Being a complete coward, I waited on my 2.2 upgrade until it appeared in
  testing. Yesterday, I joyously upgraded and sat back to enjoy the wonders
  that I had been hearing about on this list.
 
  Unfortunately my mail (in kmail) seems now to be broken. All new mail is
  reported as No Subject Unknown Wed Dec 31 15:59:59 1969
 
  Is this a known problem ? Have I done something stupid ?

 There are hidden .index - files in your mail directory. The filenames are
 .folder-name.index, e.g. .inbox.index, .drafts.index and so on. Deleting
 these worked for me. But be sure to back up that directory before messing
 with any files in it.

Stephan, thanks for the response.

Even weirder ...

I tried deleting the .index files as you suggested, then checked my mail 
again. Eight messages arrived, seven of them were still broken but yours
came through correctly. Bizarre or what ?

- Derek





Re: Upgraded to 2.2 - mail now broken

2001-11-15 Thread Tim Kelley
I'm having this problem too, will try when I get home ...

Tim Kelley tpk6 at home.com
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and were furnished with ingenious metallic clamps to attach them to
organic developments of which I dare not form any conjecture.
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Subject: Re: Upgraded to 2.2 - mail now broken


 On Thursday 15 November 2001 22:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Being a complete coward, I waited on my 2.2 upgrade until it appeared in
  testing. Yesterday, I joyously upgraded and sat back to enjoy the
wonders
  that I had been hearing about on this list.
 
  Unfortunately my mail (in kmail) seems now to be broken. All new mail is
  reported as No Subject Unknown Wed Dec 31 15:59:59 1969
 
  Is this a known problem ? Have I done something stupid ?

 There are hidden .index - files in your mail directory. The filenames are
 .folder-name.index, e.g. .inbox.index, .drafts.index and so on. Deleting
 these worked for me. But be sure to back up that directory before messing
 with any files in it.

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Re: Upgraded to 2.2 - mail now broken

2001-11-15 Thread derekgladding
 Hello,
 
 I had upgrade my kde to 2.2 from unstable something like 4 weeks ago. At the 
 beggining I had the very same problem as you (some, apparently randomly, 
 e-mails appeared not to have headers). The reason was that kmail wasn't 
 upgraded.
 
 Everything worked fine after I upgraded kmail (I didn't delete any index 
 files). Maybe you will have to wait till the new kmail (2.2.1) appears in 
 testing.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Paulo
 

Yup, pulling kmail plus associated dependencies from unstable seems to have 
fixed the problem. Thanks.

I'd better go get breakfast now ... :)

- Derek




Re: Secret Feature

2001-11-15 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi,

This is cool.  Especially since it works with other KDE apps, including
the one I wrote myself.  Yey!

 (Then again, I think they didn't tell anybody because it might not work
 properly yet. I dunno.)

Makes sense, because, it doesn't seem to be saved over sessions.  Ie,
you settings get lost when quitting the app.

Ciao,
Viktor
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WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/


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Re: Upgraded to 2.2 - mail now broken

2001-11-15 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
On Thursday 15 November 2001 14:23, Paulo José da Silva e Silva wrote:
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 Hello,

 I had upgrade my kde to 2.2 from unstable something like 4 weeks ago. At
 the beggining I had the very same problem as you (some, apparently
 randomly, e-mails appeared not to have headers). The reason was that kmail
 wasn't upgraded.

 Everything worked fine after I upgraded kmail (I didn't delete any index
 files). Maybe you will have to wait till the new kmail (2.2.1) appears in
 testing.

 Best regards,

 Paulo

Greetings:

I also ran into this problem with the first parts of 2.2.1 that showed up in 
testing without getting all of kde.  Mail was *very* broken, and it wouldn't 
even check mail (it would fail every time).  I got hundreds of *unknown* 
emails also, but not all of them!  I can't even fathom why!  I think we have 
to wait several more days before the rest of kde will come in from unstable 
(last I read here).

BTW, I ended up completely wacking the .kde directory after backup and 
removing *all* kde stuff and trying over... Finally, I recieved word that it 
was broken for testing and switched to blackbox.  I never deleted any of my 
index files and kept my ~/Mail directory intacted locally.  Still, *always* 
very good idea to backup stuff.

Good luck to you.

Tatah

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kdm bug

2001-11-15 Thread Fred K Ollinger
When I log in from kdm, the mouse pointer freezes after a few
seconds even in icewm. This is a woody install from scratch.

Fred