kdm is dead

2001-11-19 Thread Geoffrey Hausheer
I upgraded kdm a week or so ago, and Konqueror finally 
killed X yesterday.  Kdm comes up, but I don't get a 
background, and the user list is filled with all the 
users in the system.  eww (but I've already seen some 
posts earlier this month on how to fix that).  Anyhow, I 
try to login, and get a message saying something like 
'couldn't find /usr/X11R6/lib/kdm/Xsession' and what do 
you know, there is no /usr/X11R6/lib/kdm directory.  So 
figuring something was hosed, I killed kdm, and tried 
to use /etc/init.d/kdm start.  I get the 'Starting kdm: 
Done' message, but now it doesn't start at all.  I do a 
dpkg --purge kdm, and reinstall, but it still won't 
start.  Typing kdm from a console prompt doesn't do it 
either.  ps -A | grep kdm doesn't show anything.  So now 
I'm kinda stuck.  Anyone care to lend a hand?

Thanks,
.Geoff

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Re: unstable KDE situation? TESTING

2001-11-19 Thread Derek Gladding
On Monday 19 November 2001 02:14 pm, James Lindenschmidt wrote:
> Magnus von Koeller Spoke Thusly:
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> > On Monday 19 November 2001 22:52, James Lindenschmidt wrote:
> > > I am running pure unstable, with KDE 2.1. I know that KDE 2.2 is
> > > currently making its way into unstable. I'm looking forward to
> > > upgrading, but I can't afford a complete KDE crash and burn at the
> > > moment.
> > >
> > > Is it safe to upgrade? I know it takes 10 days for the packages to
> > > clear.
> >
> > Are you talking about testing? Because KDE 2.2 is already in unstable
> > (packages get there immediately ...). Did you mean you're running
> > testing?
>
> Yes. Sorry. Brain cramp. I meant "testing" not "unstable."

I moved over to the 2.2 version in testing and had two problems:

 - kmail was broken (see earlier mail)

 - the qt libs made konqueror a bit wobbly

Both of these (with some help from this list) turned out to be easy to fix 
with a bit of package fiddling, but it's not yet a completely no-stress 
transition. 

- Derek




Re: unstable KDE situation? TESTING

2001-11-19 Thread James Lindenschmidt
Magnus von Koeller Spoke Thusly:
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> On Monday 19 November 2001 22:52, James Lindenschmidt wrote:
> > I am running pure unstable, with KDE 2.1. I know that KDE 2.2 is
> > currently making its way into unstable. I'm looking forward to
> > upgrading, but I can't afford a complete KDE crash and burn at the
> > moment.
> >
> > Is it safe to upgrade? I know it takes 10 days for the packages to
> > clear.
>
> Are you talking about testing? Because KDE 2.2 is already in unstable
> (packages get there immediately ...). Did you mean you're running
> testing?

Yes. Sorry. Brain cramp. I meant "testing" not "unstable."
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Re: unstable KDE situation?

2001-11-19 Thread Magnus von Koeller
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On Monday 19 November 2001 22:52, James Lindenschmidt wrote:
> I am running pure unstable, with KDE 2.1. I know that KDE 2.2 is
> currently making its way into unstable. I'm looking forward to
> upgrading, but I can't afford a complete KDE crash and burn at the
> moment.
>
> Is it safe to upgrade? I know it takes 10 days for the packages to
> clear.

Are you talking about testing? Because KDE 2.2 is already in unstable 
(packages get there immediately ...). Did you mean you're running 
testing?

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unstable KDE situation?

2001-11-19 Thread James Lindenschmidt
Greetings everyone,

I am running pure unstable, with KDE 2.1. I know that KDE 2.2 is currently 
making its way into unstable. I'm looking forward to upgrading, but I can't 
afford a complete KDE crash and burn at the moment.

Is it safe to upgrade? I know it takes 10 days for the packages to clear.

When I try to do my apt-get dist-upgrade, I get the following:

Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  abbrowser aktion ark kab karm kcalc kcharselect kchart kcron kde-designer 
kdebase
  kdebase-crypto kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdelibs3-crypto kdepasswd kdevelop kdf 
kdm kedit keystone
  kfind kfloppy kformula kghostview khexedit kiconedit killustrator kit kivio 
kjots klisa kmail
  kmix kmoon knewsticker knode knotes koffice-libs konqueror konsole 
korganizer korn koshell
  kpackage kpaint kpm kpresenter kscd kscreensaver ksirc kspread ksysctrl 
ksysv ktalkd ktimemon
  ktron ktux kuser kview kweather kword libkmid libkonq3 libqt-dev pixie 
quanta secpolicy
  task-kde
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  xserver-common-v3
73 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 69 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
Need to get 43.8MB of archives. After unpacking 118MB will be freed.


Needless to say, I don't want to remove all of KDE. I've been following the 
thread, and I know that KDE 2.2 is making its way into unstable. 

How can I tell when KDE will be upgradeable using only unstable? Is it ready 
to go?

Thanks . . . 
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Re: kde objprelink and new binutils

2001-11-19 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Monday 19 November 2001 18:00, Magnus von Koeller wrote:
> On Saturday 20 October 2001 10:54, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
> > If you have the time and skills it is always a good idea to compile
> > K-packages yourself. It turned out recently that adding
> > architecture specific optimization makes a big performance
> > difference, becouse of the amount of byteoperations. So get the
> > source and compile it with '-march=' :-) (I can also
> > recommend -ffast-math and -finline-functions for good standard
> > optimizations that arent included in -O2)
>
> How do I do this? Is doing
>
> # export CXXFLAGS="-O3 -march=i686"
> # export CPPFLAGS="-O3 -march=i686"
> # export CFLAGS="-O3 -march=i686"
> # dpkg-buildpackage
>
> enough?
>
> Is -O3 a good idea? Or should I rather use "-O2 --ffast-math
> -finline-functions"?

Change the debian/rules  file, it might/does set some flags on its own. If 
not using deb packages, you would simple write: 
CFLAGS='-march=i686 -O2' CXXFLAGS='-march=i686 -O2' ./configure

The only importent flag is -march. The others are for "fun" or experiments, 
please try -O3 if you like, but I doubt it makes much of an impact. btw 
-ffast-math is not included i O3, becouse floating point operations might be 
changed in a way that changes the result, but which are still accurate.

regards 
Allan




Re: KDE3

2001-11-19 Thread Vaclav Hula
> Yes, those packages are not ready for general use currently. AFAIK Ivan's
> working on them. I've experienced the same problem when I installed kdelibs4.
> remove them, --purge --force-all kdelibs3 and then reinstall kdelibs3.
> That's how you can get back to working KDE2.2.

Thankfully I don't need working KDE on that machine (that's why I
tried KDE3 here ;). I posted this just in case someone wants to try it.

Ax
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Re: KDE 3?

2001-11-19 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
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On Monday 19 November 2001 21:09, Vaclav Hula wrote:
> Hi,
>   I've installed KDE3.0 from people.debian.org, added /usr/lib/kde to
> ld.so.conf (had to to tun (at least) kmail), but now neither kio_http
> nor kio_file can be executed and no file named kio_file* or kio_http*
> exists.
>

Yes, those packages are not ready for general use currently. AFAIK Ivan's 
working on them. I've experienced the same problem when I installed kdelibs4. 
remove them, --purge --force-all kdelibs3 and then reinstall kdelibs3. That's 
how you can get back to working KDE2.2.

Thanks,

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KDE 3?

2001-11-19 Thread Vaclav Hula
Hi,
  I've installed KDE3.0 from people.debian.org, added /usr/lib/kde to
ld.so.conf (had to to tun (at least) kmail), but now neither kio_http
nor kio_file can be executed and no file named kio_file* or kio_http*
exists. 

Greets..
Ax
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Re: Konqueror gets weird

2001-11-19 Thread Frank Dekervel
Op maandag 19 november 2001 17:36, schreef Peter Soetens:
> Hi,
>
> I had my problems before with konqueror (like the ssl part) so i regularily
> installed the latest unstables (together with kdebase, kmail etc )
>
> What goes wrong ( I only exerience this on slashdot.org  ):
>
> 1.  It says the process for the http://slashdot.org protocol died
> unexpectedly 2. OR  It renders a gif image of 0x0 pixels or a larger
> corupted image 3. OR  It renders an incomplete page with corrupted images.
>
> The screenshot in attachment shows what happens.
>
> I use qtlib 2.3.1-13
> latest K- stuff from unstable
>
> I suspect a component from unstable is responsible for this but i can't
> figure which.

hi peter,

this was a problem with the kuleuven transparant proxy cache that got 
corrupted. i think its fixed now. if it still doesn't work, try to purge your 
browser cache.

greetings,
Frank




Konqueror gets weird

2001-11-19 Thread Peter Soetens
Hi,

I had my problems before with konqueror (like the ssl part) so i regularily 
installed the latest unstables (together with kdebase, kmail etc )

What goes wrong ( I only exerience this on slashdot.org  ):

1.  It says the process for the http://slashdot.org protocol died unexpectedly
2. OR  It renders a gif image of 0x0 pixels or a larger corupted image 
3. OR  It renders an incomplete page with corrupted images.

The screenshot in attachment shows what happens.

I use qtlib 2.3.1-13 
latest K- stuff from unstable

I suspect a component from unstable is responsible for this but i can't 
figure which.

Peter


<>

Problem Adding A Printer To KDE

2001-11-19 Thread Robert Tilley
I am adding my wife's HP DeskJet 672C printer with the Printing Manager from 
KDE 2.2.1.

I can see the printer on the network attached to my wife's shared drive.  
When I add it I then desire to test the added printer, and so I click Test.

A dialog pops up saying "The access to the requested resource on the CUPS 
server running on localhost (port 631) requires a password."  The username 
field field contains my logged in username.  When I enter my login password 
it dialog comes back with the same response, so that's not right.

How do I specify (or check on) the password to my CUPS server?

Thank you!
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Re: kde objprelink and new binutils

2001-11-19 Thread Magnus von Koeller
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On Saturday 20 October 2001 10:54, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
> If you have the time and skills it is always a good idea to compile
> K-packages yourself. It turned out recently that adding
> architecture specific optimization makes a big performance
> difference, becouse of the amount of byteoperations. So get the
> source and compile it with '-march=' :-) (I can also
> recommend -ffast-math and -finline-functions for good standard
> optimizations that arent included in -O2)

How do I do this? Is doing

# export CXXFLAGS="-O3 -march=i686"
# export CPPFLAGS="-O3 -march=i686"
# export CFLAGS="-O3 -march=i686"
# dpkg-buildpackage

enough?

Is -O3 a good idea? Or should I rather use "-O2 --ffast-math 
- -finline-functions"?

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kde & power savings

2001-11-19 Thread Tom Allison
A while back I posted that I was having problems with my notebook 
parking the hard drive.  I saw this repeated by others as well.

I have an update, but first, to reiterate:
The problem is that the hard drive will park (spin down) and then in <1 
second, spin back up again.  This repeats ad infinitum regardless of my 
activities on the desktop.
I have already been through the questions of noflushd and stuff like 
that.  In short, I've done everything I could in the Battery-Powered HOWTO.

I switch to fvwm2 for a while to see if the problem would continue.  I 
did this because I know that gnome would also park nicely but had since 
removed it from my computer and fvwm2 was easier to install.  The point 
is, that this is a non-KDE desktop (mostly?).

Now, it parks just fine.  It's wonderful.  It's exactly as advertized.
Now to figure out what's wrong with the testing/KDE installation that's 
causing this.

I am running kdm as well, and choose fvwm2 over kde from the drop-down 
box.  I know that something kde-ish is probably still running because 
the background is mysteriously shaded the same as it is in KDE for my 
desktop.  But I'm not sure what, so I've included a list of everything 
running right now.
UIDPID  PPID  C STIME TTY  TIME CMD
root 1 0  0 02:40 ?00:00:03 init [2]  
root 2 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 [keventd]
root 3 1  4 02:40 ?00:09:25 [kapm-idled]
root 4 0  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root 5 0  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 [kswapd]
root 6 0  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 [bdflush]
root 7 0  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 [kupdated]
root13 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 update -s 3600 -f 3600
root45 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 [khubd]
daemon  94 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /sbin/portmap
root   166 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /sbin/syslogd
root   169 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /sbin/klogd
root   174 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /sbin/rpc.statd
root   181 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apm-sleep -U 0
root   184 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:13 /usr/sbin/apmd -P 
/etc/apm/apmd_proxy
mail   197 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/exim -bd -q30m
root   236 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
root   241 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/irattach irda0 -s
root   251 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
root   272 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /sbin/cardmgr
postgres   347 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 
/usr/lib/postgresql/bin/postmaster -D /var/lib/postgres/data
root   356 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
root   359 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/X11/xfs -daemon
root   365 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/noflushd -n 5 /dev/hda
daemon 368 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/atd
root   371 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cron
root   379 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache
root   384 1  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/kdm
root   388 1  0 02:40 tty1 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
root   389 1  0 02:40 tty2 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
root   390 1  0 02:40 tty3 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3
root   391 1  0 02:40 tty4 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4
root   392 1  0 02:40 tty5 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5
root   393 1  0 02:40 tty6 00:00:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6
www-data   396   379  0 02:40 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache
root   547   384  2 02:42 ?00:05:02 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 100 
-nolisten tcp vt7 -auth /var/lib/kdm/authfiles/A:0-idtfyK
root  2291   384  0 05:15 ?00:00:00 -:0 
tallison  2356  2291  0 05:15 ?00:00:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2
tallison  2389  2356  0 05:15 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent 
/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2
tallison  2390  2356  0 05:15 ?00:00:00 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm/2.2.5/FvwmCommandS 9 6 /etc/X11/fvwm/system.warnings 0 8
tallison  2394  2356  0 05:15 ?00:00:00 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm/2.2.5/FvwmPager 9 4 /etc/X11/fvwm/post.hook 0 8 0 0
tallison  2415 1  0 05:17 ?00:00:01 lyx
tallison  2485  2356  0 05:30 ?00:00:00 xterm
tallison  2486  2485  0 05:30 pts/000:00:00 bash
tallison  2487  2486  0 05:30 pts/000:00:00 /bin/sh 
/usr/local/mozilla/run-mozilla.sh /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin
tallison  2492  2487 11 05:30 pts/000:03:06 /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin
tallison  2494  2492  0 05:30 pts/000:00:00 /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin
tallison  2495  2494  0 05:30 pts/000:00:00 /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin
tallison  2496  2494  0 05:30 pts/000:00:00 /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin
tallison  2503  2494  0 05:31 pts/000:00:00 /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin
tallison  2519  2356  0 05:58 ?00:00:00 xterm
tallison  25

Re: hanging in konqueror -> libqt broken

2001-11-19 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Moreover, the euro support works again with this downgrad !

Le Lundi 19 Novembre 2001 09:06, Aurelien Jarno a écrit :
> Using your advice, I have also downgrade my libqt 2.3.2 to libqt 2.3.1.
> Now, everything work, konqueror doesn't hang, and klipper now works very
> fast.
>
> Aurélien
>
> Le Dimanche 18 Novembre 2001 21:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > I've had the same problems and I traced it to the recent
> > switch to libqt 2.3.2 in unstable.  If I downgrade to
> > 2.3.1, everything works (mostly) fine.  I'm kinda surprised
> > this hasn't been fixed yet as it's rather glaringly obvious.




Re: hanging in konqueror -> libqt broken

2001-11-19 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Using your advice, I have also downgrade my libqt 2.3.2 to libqt 2.3.1. Now, 
everything work, konqueror doesn't hang, and klipper now works very fast.

Aurélien

Le Dimanche 18 Novembre 2001 21:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> I've had the same problems and I traced it to the recent
> switch to libqt 2.3.2 in unstable.  If I downgrade to
> 2.3.1, everything works (mostly) fine.  I'm kinda surprised
> this hasn't been fixed yet as it's rather glaringly obvious.
>




kde-devel broke my X?

2001-11-19 Thread John Gay
I updated kdevelop to 2.0 and was very impressed. I needed to install the
kdelibs source before the configure routine would finish but then I got a
very impressive kdevelop and was able to check the progress of my small
project.

I thought I'd have a go at playing around with a KDE app, so I tried to
create a new project, but after creating all the files the configure
routine said that I was missing qtlib2.2.2, so I used apt-get to install
the missing qt libs. Now configure complained I was missing some KDE
headers. I installed kde-devel, but this broke most of the rest of kde.
Figuring that a re-boot would sort out the lib issues, I found that I could
no longer log into KDE with gdm. I kept getting errors about a missing dcop
file and to make sure the dcopserver was running. After several attempts to
find out why the dcopserver was not starting again (Manually starting
dcopserver didn't work) now I can not even get X to start. I finally tried
a full apt-get dist-upgrade with testing set to 1001 in my preferences, but
even this failed to fix X.

Obviously I've got soem serious problems with libs on my system again, but
I really want to avoid a complete re-install as the latest CD I've got is
Progeny and takes about 5 days to download the updates to testing before I
can re-install KDE again.

Could someone please send me a list of the valid libs needed for testing
KDE so I can find which ones need removing?

I can log in as myself or as root to the terminal, but startkde can not
connect to the display. startx give a KDE-like pop-up warning that a dcop
file is missing and to be sure the dcopserver is running.

I can start the dcopserver manually, after setting DISPLAY=:0 but the
startx only gives the blank screen with an X for a mouse and never gets
past this.

I guess I should learn to leave well enough alone.

Thanks again for all the help.

Cheers,

 John Gay