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Re: Kmail bug and artsd bug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 December 2001 00:10, John Greer wrote: > Here is the dpkg listing. This looks OK. - -- - -M - --- Magnus von Koeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Georg-Westermann-Allee 76 / 38104 Braunschweig / Germany Phone: +49-(0)531/2094886 Mobile: +49-(0)179/4562940 lp1 on fire (One of the more obfuscated kernel messages) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Fvr5UIvM6e6BgFARArVgAJwKupBSy2vL4cc6ibezw5d3rxC7IQCfbE4W L7esTCUklsviYc8xCkASD8Y= =CEHI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kde 3.0
Dne út 11. prosinec 2001 20:01 David Bishop napsal(a): > Is anyone tracking the kde4 (3.0) packages? Have they "stabalized" > lately? (I'm not looking for rock-solid, obviously, just daily-use). > Any actual experiences welcome :-) The ones I downloadaed in late november were fairly stable*, file and http ioslaves were working, but there was no kmail, so I downgraded back to kde 2.2 ;) Now it seems that there are no kde4/3.0 packages on people.debian.org Ax * I mean that it started and I succesfully ran konqueror w/o crashes;) -- Vaclav Hula [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~ax There's long way from statue to liberty... [Hobit - Ants]
Re: kde 3.0
On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 09:14:36AM +0100, Ax wrote: > Dne út 11. prosinec 2001 20:01 David Bishop napsal(a): > > Is anyone tracking the kde4 (3.0) packages? Have they "stabalized" > > lately? (I'm not looking for rock-solid, obviously, just daily-use). > > Any actual experiences welcome :-) > > The ones I downloadaed in late november were fairly stable*, file and http > ioslaves were working, but there was no kmail, so I downgraded back to kde > 2.2 ;) > Now it seems that there are no kde4/3.0 packages on people.debian.org that's because current version is beta1 and all that I had up there was alpha1...once I get a qt built that kde3 likes I'll have beta1 packages built. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: KDM - Some minor buggies
> 1) When KDM is started upon boot, the keyboard is frozen for entry > of password. > but entering the user name works? > 2) I am unable to invoke other window managers from the KDM window. > Whenever I try to invoke afterstep or sawfish or fvwm KDE always > starts. > but you have them installed, yes? :) kde is probably the default session, so it is used as a fallback if the other wm cannot be started. do the session names match the binary names? greetings -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool.
Centralized Unofficial kde package list
Anyone think it would be a good idea to set up a centralized set of links to the unofficial KDE packages out there, kindof like what DebianPlanet has but limited to just KDE stuff. I would be willing to run and maintain the page (links only, I don't have the space to set up a file archive) if people think this is a good idea. And if people think its a good idea...send me links to your unofficial debs...I could grab the links people have sent to this list, but I would rather have explicit permission Brian
Re: kdm not run
On Tuesday 11 December 2001 18:26, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > >> I get the following message from kdm: > >> "kdm_greet: relocation error: kdm_greet: undefined symbol: > > XineramaIsActive". > > >> But on the other comuter kdm work!?! > > > > you're running kdm on a system which has xlibs without xinerama support, > > but the kdm you installed was compiled on a system with xinerama. > > basically a package mismatch. > > So how do you fix it? I have the same problem, and didn't do anything > more complicated than "apt-get upgrade" to get into this situation, so I > assume it's a transient problem with the packages in the archive. The problem whos in version of kdelibs3. I did NOT upgrade kdelibs3 when i upgrade kdm! When I get it, and when I upgrade kdelibs3 the kdm WORK OK!!! So bu my mistake kdm didn't work. (OK package depends wasn't OK). I offten use apt-get -d -u dist-upgrade; apt-get -u dist-upgrade and aptitude. Form me this combination work fine. Neca
Re: KDM - Some minor buggies
On Wednesday 12 December 2001 at 12:47 am, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > 1) When KDM is started upon boot, the keyboard is frozen for entry > > of password. > > but entering the user name works? No. I do get the user name into the name field by clicking on a user-id icon. > > 2) I am unable to invoke other window managers from the KDM > > window. Whenever I try to invoke afterstep or sawfish or fvwm KDE > > always starts. > but you have them installed, yes? :) > kde is probably the default session, so it is used as a fallback if > the other wm cannot be started. do the session names match the binary > names? Yes they are installed and testing from a xterm prompt, they (afterstep, pawm, fvwm, wmaker) all tell me nicely and correctly that another windowmanager (kde) is running. Some additional info: 1) I have modified /etc/kde2/kdm/Xsession to include xscreensaver-command -exit xscreensaver -no-splash -silent & to enable xscreensaver when the KDM login screen is displayed. The kdm frozen keyboard and chooser problem do NOT go away when I remove the xscreensaver commands from Xsession. 2) When kdm failed on me (recently) I used startx and kdm started - the kdm keyboard was NOT frozen. 3) I may have "shot myself in my foot" 6 months ago, I lost access to Woody and kdm and to get kdm back, I removed gdm, gnome and kdm and then apt-got kdm. It was a "horror" and I realize there are folks working to resolve that kdm/gdm conflict, but I may have made a pragmatic change to get kde working - that's the default that's appearing. 4) This is minor - KDE and Woody are my operational systems. If I want to execute pawm, afterstep, wmaker ... I can alway start up Mandrake where the kdm chooser is working. Michael Hoodes http://www.hoodes.comSeattle, WA
xfree86 Process Using Over 50% !?
I have been running KDE 2.2.2 (my unstable system is apt-get updated daily) and noticed that the xfree86 process (according to top) was consuming over 50% of CPU resources at times. Sometimes only 11%, sometimes 30%, sometimes over 50%. Strange and getting stranger as this only began occuring in the past few weeks. So I tried out Blackbox with gkrellm and immediately noticed that my total CPU usage (with the same processes as under KDE -- browser, mail, news, etc.) never went over 12%. Something in KDE was consuming mucho CPU. Any ideas on why this might occur? -- Comments and information are appreciated. Flames, rants, and other miscellany are routed to /dev/null. Robert Tilley, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde 3.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 December 2001 01:17 am, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > Is anyone tracking the kde4 (3.0) packages? Have they "stabalized" > > > lately? (I'm not looking for rock-solid, obviously, just daily-use). > > > Any actual experiences welcome :-) > > > > The ones I downloadaed in late november were fairly stable*, file and > > http ioslaves were working, but there was no kmail, so I downgraded back > > to kde 2.2 ;) > > Now it seems that there are no kde4/3.0 packages on people.debian.org > > that's because current version is beta1 and all that I had up there was > alpha1...once I get a qt built that kde3 likes I'll have beta1 packages > built. Sweet, I'll just wait then. As for the debug thing, great! 2 birds with one stone :-) - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8F24cEHLN/FXAbC0RAtDKAJ4iui95gWoBv9ciE+8mbcGMZsRcagCg6eWd oHiqg5IK2S7RPlKYpwSnOf4= =TCgY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kde 3.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 December 2001 10:17, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > that's because current version is beta1 and all that I had up there was > alpha1...once I get a qt built that kde3 likes I'll have beta1 packages > built. > current qt-copy seems to be working Thanks, - -- Eray Ozkural (exa) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo GPG public key fingerprint: 360C 852F 88B0 A745 F31B EA0F 7C07 AE16 874D 539C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8F3fbfAeuFodNU5wRAqXqAKCMPiejJYMs1GJPmBcVBgPNrjC3ZQCfdOoW 3FPzcPAdzW/wEmykw/Qy2PM= =ZAJa -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: xfree86 Process Using Over 50% !?
Thus spake Robert Tilley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Something in KDE was consuming mucho CPU. > > Any ideas on why this might occur? Make sure that you're not using QT 2.3.2. Unstable was reverted to 2.3.1 a while ago, since the old version was causing konq hangs and I remember getting some weird CPU behavior... -- Justin R. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> View my website at http://codesorcery.net Please encrypt email using key 0xC9C40C31 pgpsq3wfuj7Do.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KDM - Some minor buggies
> > but entering the user name works? > > No. I do get the user name into the name field by clicking on a > user-id icon. > ah. then it's probably the usual "vt7 is missing at the end of the Xserver line" problem, which causes a race between the server and a getty. the fact, that it works when started from command line supports this. > Yes they are installed and testing from a xterm prompt, they > (afterstep, pawm, fvwm, wmaker) all tell me nicely and correctly > that another windowmanager (kde) is running. > strange. it's probably something with the Xsession script ... maybe, add -x to the first line (#! /bin/sh -x) to get an execution log in kdm.log / ~/.xsession-errors . > Some additional info: > 1) I have modified /etc/kde2/kdm/Xsession to include > xscreensaver-command -exit > xscreensaver -no-splash -silent & > to enable xscreensaver when the KDM login screen is displayed. > The kdm frozen keyboard and chooser problem do NOT go away > when I remove the xscreensaver commands from Xsession. > Xsession is the wrong file ... you mean Xsetup, right? > 2) When kdm failed on me (recently) I used startx and kdm started > - the kdm keyboard was NOT frozen. > you mean, both startx and kdm worked (independently from each other), right? greetings -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool.
Re: KDM - Some minor buggies
On Wednesday 12 December 2001 at 7:50 am, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > but entering the user name works? > > > > No. I do get the user name into the name field by clicking on a > > user-id icon. > > ah. then it's probably the usual "vt7 is missing at the end of the > Xserver line" problem, which causes a race between the server and a > getty. the fact, that it works when started from command line > supports this. Bravo. Bravissimo and Much thanks ... that's it!! in file /etc/kde2/kdm/Xservers I changed: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp to :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt7 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp Ivan (or is anyone in Debian listening?) They also might be aware of a reason for leaving the vt7 out! > > Yes they are installed and testing from a xterm prompt, they > > (afterstep, pawm, fvwm, wmaker) all tell me nicely and correctly > > that another windowmanager (kde) is running. > > strange. it's probably something with the Xsession script ... maybe, > add -x to the first line (#! /bin/sh -x) to get an execution log in > kdm.log / ~/.xsession-errors . OK .. It looks like afterstep (session I tried) is found and then it starts up /usr/bin/x-session-manager which is symlinked to /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager which is symlinked to kde2 I think I've found my "shot in the leg" repair from several months ago. I might have done it to let me get into kde. Unfortunately I was not a good boy and didn't keep a copy of existing x-session-manager! I will look into this later on. > > Some additional info: > > 1) I have modified /etc/kde2/kdm/Xsession to include > > xscreensaver-command -exit > > xscreensaver -no-splash -silent & > > to enable xscreensaver when the KDM login screen is displayed. > > The kdm frozen keyboard and chooser problem do NOT go away > > when I remove the xscreensaver commands from Xsession. > > Xsession is the wrong file ... you mean Xsetup, right? Correct! I had made the modification in two places ... only need it in Xsetup! > > 2) When kdm failed on me (recently) I used startx and kdm started > > - the kdm keyboard was NOT frozen. > > you mean, both startx and kdm worked (independently from each other), > right? I believe so... unfortunately, I can't test that. At times kdm fails and I'm stuck without X on Woody and I will try whatever I can to start it. But since you are listening - Is there any way to put back either the CTRL-R (probably from xdm days) or the 'return to system console' which was in KDE 2.1 KDM and is not in KDE 2.2 KDM? I do use the ALT-Fn keys but I don't think they are active during KDM Login. Thanks again for your assistance. Michael Michael Hoodes http://www.hoodes.comSeattle, WA
Re: kde 3.0
On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 05:29:31PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > On Wednesday 12 December 2001 10:17, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > that's because current version is beta1 and all that I had up there was > > alpha1...once I get a qt built that kde3 likes I'll have beta1 packages > > built. > > > > current qt-copy seems to be working of course it does. That is what KDE uses for it's development. However QT has not released a version that they support that KDE works with. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: KDM - Some minor buggies
On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 09:38:52AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wednesday 12 December 2001 at 7:50 am, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > > > but entering the user name works? > > > > > > No. I do get the user name into the name field by clicking on a > > > user-id icon. > > > > ah. then it's probably the usual "vt7 is missing at the end of the > > Xserver line" problem, which causes a race between the server and a > > getty. the fact, that it works when started from command line > > supports this. > > Bravo. Bravissimo and Much thanks ... that's it!! > in file /etc/kde2/kdm/Xservers I changed: > :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp > to > :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt7 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp > > Ivan (or is anyone in Debian listening?) They also might be > aware of a reason for leaving the vt7 out! there is no reason for leaving it out...it's not left out. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: kde 3.0
On Wednesday 12 December 2001 20:47, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > of course it does. That is what KDE uses for it's development. However > QT has not released a version that they support that KDE works with. > I've seen changes there recently, that's why I mentioned. I think it's going to be usable quite soon. beta1 is already tagged, and I think it's really going to be cool when it comes out. Thanks, -- Eray Ozkural (exa) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo GPG public key fingerprint: 360C 852F 88B0 A745 F31B EA0F 7C07 AE16 874D 539C
Re: kde 3.0
On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 09:05:13PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > On Wednesday 12 December 2001 20:47, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > > of course it does. That is what KDE uses for it's development. However > > QT has not released a version that they support that KDE works with. > > > > I've seen changes there recently, that's why I mentioned. I think it's going > to be usable quite soon. beta1 is already tagged, and I think it's really > going to be cool when it comes out. the Trolls do not support qt-copy as qt-copy could be considered experimental. However they just released 3.0.1 today so we should be good to go. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Where can I find ISOs of Debian Sid with KDE 2.2.2?
I found this: ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid The problem is that these images are from 20th november and I think that KDE 2.2.2 are not available on this day. I sincerelly appreciate if someone can indicate me where can I find cd images more updated.of Debian Sid? Josep
Sound
I used to have kaudio. I upgraded to whatever went into testing (2.2.1?) and now I have no sound. Technically, I have sound, but I have nothing KDE-ish to control it with. No thing in the menu and nothing to select from the packages. According the dselect, I already have kaudio installed -- but there's nothing in the menus to sound config. It's really quiet - I would love to be able to turn it up.
Re: Sound
On Wednesday 12 December 2001 04:02 pm, Tom Allison wrote: > phy> > Resent-From: debian-kde@lists.debian.org > X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5947 > X-Loop: debian-kde@lists.debian.org > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I used to have kaudio. > > I upgraded to whatever went into testing (2.2.1?) and now I have no sound. > > Technically, I have sound, but I have nothing KDE-ish to control it > with. No thing in the menu and nothing to select from the packages. > According the dselect, I already have kaudio installed -- but there's > nothing in the menus to sound config. > > It's really quiet - I would love to be able to turn it up. Tom, I did a woody install too, and noted the lack of kmix. You can either install kmix (if it will) or pull another mixer from debian. I like kmix but aumix also works well. apt-get install aumix Best of luck -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: kdeedu packages for kde 2.2.2
For those that were interested, my I have now packages all the kdeedu apps which are apt-get'ble with the source list entry of: deb http://cda.mrs.umn.edu/~osch0001/edu/cvs ./ These are built from the kdeedu module in kde's cvs tree rather than the individually released packages. They are compiled against kde 2.2.2 as before. Gregory J. Oschwald
Re: kdeedu packages for kde 2.2.2
On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 07:02:01PM -0600, Gregory J Oschwald wrote: > For those that were interested, my I have now packages all the kdeedu > apps which are apt-get'ble with the source list entry of: My mind must be going. I am not sure what exactly I meant to say in that sentance, but the gist of it was that all the (available) kdeedu apps are now packaged and downloadable at the site given. Gregory J. Oschwald
