kwin, ctrl:nocaps and caps-tab messes up keyboard

2002-01-11 Thread Martins Krikis
Thanks everybody for helping me with the kword crash issue.
I learned to report bugs, got the courage to borrow kword
from sid and the crash is gone.

Now I'm wondering whether anybody has noticed this and has
a solution:

I'm running XFree86 4.1 and have the XkbOption "ctrl:nocaps"
enabled, i.e., my Caps-Lock should behave exactly as Ctrl.
This used to really be so until the last KDE upgrade in woody,
my kwin now is version 2.2.2-1. If I do desktop-switching
through Ctrl-Tab, everything is fine. If I do it through Caps-Tab
then things get quite messed up: the keyboard no longer works at all,
the mouse pressed in xterm-s behaves as if Ctrl was being held
down (gives VT menus, which seem to work), and the only way
I've found out of this is to use the mouse to open yet another
xterm and then click some more and then... well not sure due
to what but eventually things get back to normal in most cases.

I believe I tried this with some other window managers and I
think I once ran xev on this---the problem does seem to be
kwin specific and I don't think I got much smarter from xev.

This is kind-of along the lines of some reported problems
about alt-tab switching in older kwin-s but different.

Does anybody know what's going on? Is kwin trying to do something
funny with what xkb should be taking care of? I guess I should
enter a bug, right?

Thanks,

Martins




Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 09:58:26AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> aula-linux:~# apt-get install kpackage 
> Reading Package Lists... Done 
> Building Dependency Tree... Done 
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have 
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable 
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created 
> or been moved out of Incoming. 
> 
> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that 
> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against 
> that package should be filed. 
> The following information may help to resolve the situation: 
> 
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: 
>   kpackage: Depends: librpm0 (>= 4.0.2-18) but it is not installable 
> E: Sorry, broken packages 

A new kdeadmin, complete with kpackage built against librpm4, is coming
soon. Sit tight.

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Re: Evolution einbinden

2002-01-11 Thread ben
On Friday 11 January 2002 04:15 pm, Denny Schierz wrote:
> hi,
>
> gibt es einen Weg, evolution als standard Mail Programm im Konqueror zu
> registrieren? Sprich, ich klicke auf eine Mailadresse, und Evolution
> übernimmt die mailadresse und macht ein Create Message Fenster auf, so
> halt wie bei kmail.
>
> cu denny

control center, file associations, message--da sollte man sowas eintragen 
koennen. kde kenne ich nur auf englisch. keine ahnung ob die vorgenannten bei 
dir auf deutsch umgesestzt sind.




Evolution einbinden

2002-01-11 Thread Denny Schierz
hi,

gibt es einen Weg, evolution als standard Mail Programm im Konqueror zu
registrieren? Sprich, ich klicke auf eine Mailadresse, und Evolution
übernimmt die mailadresse und macht ein Create Message Fenster auf, so
halt wie bei kmail.

cu denny







Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread Chris Cheney
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 09:58:26AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello !! 
> 
> I have a little dependency problem on Debian GNU/Linux Sid 3.0 (yes, I know, 
> that's unstable...) : 
-snip- 
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: 
>   kde: Depends: kpackage but it is not going to be installed 
> E: Sorry, broken packages 

I will get Daniels to give me an updated diff.gz and try to rebuild it
asap.  My system decided to eat its hard drive last night though so it
might be a few days. :<

Chris Cheney




Re: kde.debian.net website

2002-01-11 Thread yugami
> > And this is NOT just for .deb(ian) We also need to support apt-rpm if we
can.
> > I'd like to see some archives for the (don't scream at me!!) apt-rpm
sites
> > too. I don't 'like' RedHate, but with the new apt that is in it, it sure
> > would be sweet if we could support it. (convert those fadora wearin'
> > strangers!)
>
> How would supporting RedHat help convert them to Debian? :)  Isn't KDE
already
> in RedHat anyway?  If RedHat wants to use apt-rpm then they are free to
> setup their own mirrors to use with it.

why would puting our deb's out there help support apt-rpm anyway? that uses
rpm's

redhat has its own setup, its own dependancies and its own directory
structure.




Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread David Bishop
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On Friday 11 January 2002 01:58 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello !!
>
> I have a little dependency problem on Debian GNU/Linux Sid 3.0 (yes, I
> know, that's unstable...) :



> Well !! This package works !! But the rest still don't works !! The problem
> isn't resolved...
> if I tape the command apt-get install kpackage, the same error message is
> displayed...
> If anyone has an idee, thanks a lot !!

Well, I won't comment on your sources.list, because everyone else already has 
:-)  I'll just mention that this particular dependency problem has been noted 
before and a new package upload with fixed depends: is planned very soon.  
Hope that helps

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Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Mark Brown wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:26:43PM +0100, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists 
> wrote:
>
> > mirror: B_more_in_sync
> > --
> > Package: A
> > (has been replaced by Aplus or is not available any more)
> > Depends: B ( = 0.2)
>
> So package A which does not exist depends on B=0.2?  Huh?

Scratch that "Depends" line. Sorry.
*t


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 http://sourcepole.ch
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Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
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On Friday 11 January 2002 12:58 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello !!
>
> I have a little dependency problem on Debian GNU/Linux Sid 3.0 (yes, I
> know, that's unstable...) :
>
> My sources.list file :
>
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib
> non- free
> deb ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian unstable main contrib
> non-free
>
From my experience, using "stable", "unstable", "frozen/testing" is a 
bad
idea. Use the release name. It's safer. This way, if/when frozen goes stable,
you won't find yourself running a fully beta release, unexpectedly.

There's conversation later on in the list about multiple mirrors. I 
won't
comment on the validity of it, but using multiple mirrors bit me in the arse
months and months ago.

First recommendation is to edit the sources.list and run an apt-get 
update
to bring your package list up to current. Then try something like this:

Dir=~ pts/4$ apt-cache search kde | grep "kde "
fluxbox-kde - Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager for KDE
junior-kde - Debian Jr. for KDE
kde - The K Desktop Environment
licq-plugin-kde - Graphical front-end plugin for LICQ using Qt2+KDE
wordtrans-kde - Multi Language Word Translator for Linux

As you see here, kde DOES exist (on my box). But you could be running 
into
some conflicts with the multi-mirror stuff. (shrug)
Once your available packages list is current/correct, you 'should' be 
able
to run the 'apt-get install kde' w/o complaint.

Good Coding

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Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:26:43PM +0100, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:

> mirror: B_more_in_sync
> --
> Package: A
> (has been replaced by Aplus or is not available any more)
> Depends: B ( = 0.2)

So package A which does not exist depends on B=0.2?  Huh?

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Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Mark Brown wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 11:17:16AM +0100, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists 
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> > > deb ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian unstable main contrib 
> > > non-free
>
> > 1) and 2) are the same but you are mixing two mirrors. What for? Use only
> > one and then you should be offered a more consistent package choice. If
> > you are using 1) and 2) simultaneously than you can end up in strange
> > situations where you install stuff from 2) that depends on stuff that is
> > overwritten by 1) etc.
>
> How exactly do you expect that to happen?  apt supports multiple sources
> for the same package perfectly well - by default it will simply go with
> the highest version avaliable.  If you point at two repositories one of
> which is not a Debian mirror you might get into trouble but otherwise
> nothing bad will happen (except for a bit of wasted bandwidth
> downloading two copies of the Packages files).

Lets suppose the following (a situation that happens frequently here, I'm
sitting in Switzerland btw. just like the original poster).

Installed:
--
Package: A
Version: 0.1
Package: B
Version: 0.1
Package: C
Version: 0.1

mirror: A_out_of_sync
-
Package: A
Version: 0.1
Depends: B ( = 0.1)
Package: B
Version: 0.1
Package: C
Version: 0.1
Depends: B ( = 0.1)

mirror: B_more_in_sync
--
Package: A
(has been replaced by Aplus or is not available any more)
Depends: B ( = 0.2)
Package: B
Version: 0.2
Package: C
Version: 0.2
Depends: B ( = 0.2)

If you list available packages you'll see all the new versions. And if
you update C you'll get a problem, since A is hanging in the air.
Situations like this do occur.
*t


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Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 11:17:16AM +0100, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> > deb ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian unstable main contrib 
> > non-free

> 1) and 2) are the same but you are mixing two mirrors. What for? Use only
> one and then you should be offered a more consistent package choice. If
> you are using 1) and 2) simultaneously than you can end up in strange
> situations where you install stuff from 2) that depends on stuff that is
> overwritten by 1) etc.

How exactly do you expect that to happen?  apt supports multiple sources
for the same package perfectly well - by default it will simply go with
the highest version avaliable.  If you point at two repositories one of
which is not a Debian mirror you might get into trouble but otherwise
nothing bad will happen (except for a bit of wasted bandwidth
downloading two copies of the Packages files).

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Re: KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have a little dependency problem on Debian GNU/Linux Sid 3.0 (yes, I know,
> that's unstable...) :
>
> My sources.list file :
>
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
  1)
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-
> free
> deb ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian unstable main contrib non-free
  2)

1) and 2) are the same but you are mixing two mirrors. What for? Use only
one and then you should be offered a more consistent package choice. If
you are using 1) and 2) simultaneously than you can end up in strange
situations where you install stuff from 2) that depends on stuff that is
overwritten by 1) etc.

I suggest you delete line 1)

For the rest - go and check packages.debian.org and search for the missing
packages there. Sometimes, if you are tracking woody/sid you need to do
that, especially if you are getting your stuff from mirrors.
*t


 Tomas Pospisek
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KDE dependency problem on a Debian Sid 3.0

2002-01-11 Thread crochat
Hello !! 

I have a little dependency problem on Debian GNU/Linux Sid 3.0 (yes, I know, 
that's unstable...) : 

My sources.list file : 

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free 
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-
free 
deb ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian unstable main contrib non-free


* 
When I want to install kde : 
* 

aula-linux:~# apt-get install kde 
Reading Package Lists... Done 
Building Dependency Tree... Done 
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have 
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable 
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created 
or been moved out of Incoming. 

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that 
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against 
that package should be filed. 
The following information may help to resolve the situation: 

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: 
  kde: Depends: kpackage but it is not going to be installed 
E: Sorry, broken packages 

**
So, I tape the following : 
**

aula-linux:~# apt-get install kpackage 
Reading Package Lists... Done 
Building Dependency Tree... Done 
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have 
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable 
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created 
or been moved out of Incoming. 

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that 
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against 
that package should be filed. 
The following information may help to resolve the situation: 

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: 
  kpackage: Depends: librpm0 (>= 4.0.2-18) but it is not installable 
E: Sorry, broken packages 

 
OK, so now :
 

aula-linux:~# apt-get install librpm0 
Reading Package Lists... Done 
Building Dependency Tree... Done 
Package librpm0 has no available version, but exists in the database. 
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and 
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents 
of sources.list 
However the following packages replace it: 
  librpm4 
E: Package librpm0 has no installation candidate 

***
Just a little new command : 
***

aula-linux:~# apt-get install librpm4 
Reading Package Lists... Done 
Building Dependency Tree... Done 
Sorry, librpm4 is already the newest version. 
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5  not upgraded. 


Well !! This package works !! But the rest still don't works !! The problem 
isn't resolved...
if I tape the command apt-get install kpackage, the same error message is 
displayed...
If anyone has an idee, thanks a lot !! 


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