Install kde in Sid fails - depends libkmid... - How fix?

2002-02-17 Thread tluxt2
I just tried a fresh install of Sid  KDE.  Package kde refused to
install, (although kdebase did install), because of a couple
nonessential packages.   How can this be overcome?


I did a fresh install of Woody.
Then: apt-get install dist-upgrade- to Sid.
then used tasksel to install X
That all worked.

Then: apt-get -s install kde and apt-get install kde
both failed with:
apt-get -s install kde
 Reading Package Lists... 0  Building Dependency Tree... Done

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kde: Depends: libkmid or
libkmid-alsa but it is not going to be installed or
libkmid-bin but it is not installable
   Depends: kdebase-audiolibs but it is not going to be installed or
kdebase3-audiolibs but it is not installable
E: Sorry, broken packages

apt-get -f install kde - got the same result.

Now, I don't _need_ audio  sound right now.  I'd just like to get
everything else but those packages.  Can that be done???


Note: I then _did_ install:
apt-get install kdebase
which worked, but didn't even install konqueror! (and almost no other
packages either).  :(



apt-get -s install kdebase
 Reading Package Lists...   Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdelibs3-bin kdewallpapers libbz2-1.0 libfam0
  libjpeg62 libkonq3 liblcms libmng1 libqt2 libtiff3g libxml2 libxslt1
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kdebase kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdelibs3-bin kdewallpapers libbz2-1.0
libfam0
  libjpeg62 libkonq3 liblcms libmng1 libqt2 libtiff3g libxml2 libxslt1
0 packages upgraded, 15 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.


I really want to install the kde metapackage, so I can get most
everything installed in one easy step.  

How can I get that accomplished now?  Is there any way?

Or, does someone need to file a bug report, and have ccheney or someone
fix the packages?

Thanks!


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Re: openoffice install problem under kde

2002-02-17 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Samstag, 16. Februar 2002 23:09 schrieb Putz Akos:
 On Saturday 16 February 2002 20:49, Kamil Kisiel wrote:
  I have the SO 6.0 beta installed and running just fine under the latest
  KDE 2.2.2 packages, haven't tried installing the OO 641 binaries yet.
  What exactly do you mean you cannot install it? Do you get some kind
  of error? or what exactly?

 Ok, sorry. The problem is : I start ./setup, a progress bar appears, and
 when it is finished, the setup simply exists. (The only thing what appears
 on the console is the libc version ( 2.2.4) )
 I tried it three machines : two of them with the local X console, they have
 the latest kde from sid. The third machine was a fairly old woody (2-3
 months), but the X display was on the first computer. Same effect. But here
 comes the strange thing : starting simply failsafe everything runs ok. I
 have created a new test-user, and under this user's X and kde session I was
 able to install oo and so too. Failing back to my old user oo and so
 segfaults. I'm trying localizing the problem.

 (sorry for the bad english)

I had the same problem - but no idea or solution.
Sebastian




kdelibs compilation problems

2002-02-17 Thread Gregor Zeitlinger
I just tried debuild from a cvs snapshot (20020210) and it breaks because
the directory mimelib in kdelibs/debian is missing. Any idea?

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Re: kdelibs compilation problems

2002-02-17 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 17 Feb 2002 3:41 pm, Gregor Zeitlinger wrote:
 I just tried debuild from a cvs snapshot (20020210) and it breaks because
 the directory mimelib in kdelibs/debian is missing. Any idea?
mimelib is in kdenetwork - so not sure what makes you think its in kdelibs
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Re: kdelibs compilation problems

2002-02-17 Thread Gregor Zeitlinger
On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Alan Chandler wrote:
 On Sunday 17 Feb 2002 3:41 pm, Gregor Zeitlinger wrote:
  I just tried debuild from a cvs snapshot (20020210) and it breaks because
  the directory mimelib in kdelibs/debian is missing. Any idea?
 mimelib is in kdenetwork - so not sure what makes you think its in kdelibs
the rules in kdelibs demand mimelib - not my idea! Maybe that's an error.

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Re: kdelibs compilation problems

2002-02-17 Thread Gregor Zeitlinger
also: are there debian packages for kde3 already?

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Re: kdelibs compilation problems

2002-02-17 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 17 Feb 2002 5:28 pm, Gregor Zeitlinger wrote:
 also: are there debian packages for kde3 already?

I couldn't find any - I just built the whole of kde from source (took all 
evening and all night Friday)

[and I didn't fail trying to build kdelibs!]
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Re: Install kde in Sid fails - depends libkmid... - How fix?

2002-02-17 Thread Brian Bilbrey
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 01:40:55AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just tried a fresh install of Sid  KDE.  Package kde refused to
 install, (although kdebase did install), because of a couple
 nonessential packages.   How can this be overcome?
 

I ran into this last weekend. The problem at that time was that libkmid
is dependent explicitly on libglib1.3-12. That's not available any more,
being superceded by libglib1.3-13. What I did was track down a copy of
libglib1.3-12.deb, and manually install it using dpkg. THEN I
installed libkmid, then I installed KDE.

Fundamentally, when I run into problems like yours in unstable, I simply
try installing down the chain until I find out what the holdup is. If,
for instance, you had followed up your first failure with

apt-get install libkmid

You  would have found the dependency, then tried to install the
libglib1.3-12 and run into the same thing I did.  You'll need, perhaps,
to do the same with the kdebase3-audiolibs (and you do want to track
kdebase3, I'm pretty sure).

Best of luck!

.brian

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Re: Install kde in Sid fails - depends libkmid... - How fix?

2002-02-17 Thread tluxt2
Thanks!  One quick question as I start to work on your suggestion:

--- Brian Bilbrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I ran into this last weekend. The problem at that time was that libkmid
 is dependent explicitly on libglib1.3-12. That's not available any more,
 being superceded by libglib1.3-13. What I did was track down a copy of
 libglib1.3-12.deb, and manually install it using dpkg. THEN I
 installed libkmid, then I installed KDE.

Assume for the moment my situation turns out to have a similar problem,
and I am able to determine what the ultimate depends failure is, how do I
track down a copy of the file I'll need?  Ie, specifically, where (on what
http or ftp) servers would I look to find it?


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Re: Install kde in Sid fails - depends libkmid... - How fix?

2002-02-17 Thread Dmitriy
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 12:29:07PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Assume for the moment my situation turns out to have a similar problem,
 and I am able to determine what the ultimate depends failure is, how do I
 track down a copy of the file I'll need?  Ie, specifically, where (on what
 http or ftp) servers would I look to find it?
 

FTPsearch, package pool if you are lucky.  Perhaps the package may
still exist in testing.  



 
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Re: Install kde in Sid fails - depends libkmid... - How fix?

2002-02-17 Thread Brian Bilbrey
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 12:29:07PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 track down a copy of the file I'll need?  Ie, specifically, where (on what
 http or ftp) servers would I look to find it?

mirrors of Debian, and/or a google search. Explicitly, in my case, I
started going through this list:

http://www.debian.org/misc/README.mirrors

until I found a site that had libglib1.3-12 still around. I downloaded
it and installed it.

Note: I believe that this is already listed as bug number 134168.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=libkmid

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Re: Install kde in Sid fails - depends libkmid... - How fix?

2002-02-17 Thread Dmitriy
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 02:53:51PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
[snip]
 OK, I tried what you suggested and found the same problem as you found. 
 Here are some questions:
 
 1)  Is there some way to tell apt-get install kde to just install
 whatever it can, and ignore any unmet dependency problems?  (This would
 save me a _lot_ of extra learning  work right now, which is an acceptable
 tradeoff to me at this point, knowing some things will not be fully
 installed.)
Not as far as I know, but you could look at dependencies of KDE,
perhaps write a script to do that.

 
 
 2)  Is there a way to set up apt to automatically  safely solve problems
 of this kind?  Perhaps by using the following 'default release' procedure?
  
 [Hmm, my guess is that this probably won't solve this problem. :( ]
 
 create the file /etc/apt/apt.conf
 and put in it only the following line:
   APT::Default-Release testing;]
 
   And, to install a package do:
 apt-get install package/unstable
   [in my case:
 apt-get install kde/unstable]
 
 
 3)  How do I find (track down) a copy of the correct package?
 I couldn't find libglib at:
 http://204.152.189.120/debian/pool/main/libg/
 
I think it's under main/g

 
 4)  How can it be installed? - 
 Will something like (making appropriate substitutions)
 apt-get install libglib1.3-12.deb work?
 If not, do you have a url or pointer to what I'd need to read to learn how
 to use dpkg to do this package install?

dpkg -i file.deb

man dpkg

 
 5)  How know which package is the correct one I need to dl  install?
 
 When I do:
 apt-get -s install libkmid
 ... 
 Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
 requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
 distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
 or been moved out of Incoming.
 
 Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
   libkmid: Depends: libglib1.3-12 (= 1.3.12) but it is not installable
 
 That shows =.
 
 That is different from what you said:
  The problem at that time was that libkmid
  is dependent explicitly on libglib1.3-12. That's not available any more,
  being superceded by libglib1.3-13.
 
 So, if it has been supersceded by 1.3-13, why doesn't apt-get obtain
 1.3-13, which would satisfy = 1.3.12?  
 - Oh, is this why: the -13 doesn't refer to the same thing as the .13?
 

Yes, apt sees different packages : libglib1.3-12 and libglib1.3-13 .

 = tells it about a version of a package. 

Apt sees libglib1.3-12_1.3.12-1 and libglib1.3-13_1.3.13-1 , which are
in it's opinion completely different packages.  

 So, is 1.3-13 being required, but is not available yet?
 
 (Maybe I should try looking into this more deeply using apt-cache show
 libglib1, or showpkg, or?)

apt-cache search foo is a neat way to search for keywords.

 
 6)  How would one know one wants kdebase3-audiolibs, not
 kdebase-audiolibs?  Do you have a pointer to something that tells me about
 what kdebase, and kdebase3 are, and how I could determine which I want in
 my case?
 
 7)  Since:
 apt-get -s install kdebase3-audiolibs
 Package kdebase3-audiolibs has no available version, but exists in the
 database.
 This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
 never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
 of sources.list
 E: Package kdebase3-audiolibs has no installation candidate
 
 Where do I look next to start tracking this down?
Look on what kde depends (apt-cache show kde is a good way).


And it says : kdebase-audiolibs | kdebase3-audiolibs 
so you can try kdebase-audiolibs instead.  

and don't forget apt-cache  search.

It's easier to just take list of packages on which kde depends and
install them in one big apt-get install .

I hope it helps and I am not too confusing :-)

 
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Re: Install kde in Sid fails - depends libkmid... - How fix?

2002-02-17 Thread jeff
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 02:53:51PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Wow. Lots of questions. The answer to most of them is I tried different
things and read man pages and did google searches until I figured out
how to solve the problem in front of me. 

 If it is not available anymore, how did you track it down? (See below,
 also.)

Searching through the debian mirrors as previously noted.

 1)  Is there some way to tell apt-get install kde to just install
 whatever it can, and ignore any unmet dependency problems?  (This would

Not when there are broken packages, to my admittedly limited knowledge.

 save me a _lot_ of extra learning  work right now, which is an acceptable
 tradeoff to me at this point, knowing some things will not be fully
 installed.)

For me, the issue is Can I afford NOT to learn how to cope with this?
If I don't figure it out on my own, then I haven't learned enough to be
able to generalize from this specific problem to a larger set.

 4)  How can it be installed? - 

dpkg -i X.deb

 Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
   libkmid: Depends: libglib1.3-12 (= 1.3.12) but it is not installable
 
 That shows =.
 
 That is different from what you said:
  The problem at that time was that libkmid
  is dependent explicitly on libglib1.3-12. That's not available any more,
  being superceded by libglib1.3-13.
 
 So, if it has been supersceded by 1.3-13, why doesn't apt-get obtain
 1.3-13, which would satisfy = 1.3.12?  
 - Oh, is this why: the -13 doesn't refer to the same thing as the .13?

Well, I actually meant what I said, since I went and got and installed
libglib1.3-13 (1.3.13), and tried again, getting the same error. Now
here's the installed packages in that space, from dpkg -l:

ii  libglib1.3-12  1.3.12-2   Unstable GLib general-purpose C library
ii  libglib1.3-13  1.3.13-1   Unstable GLib general-purpose C library


 6)  How would one know one wants kdebase3-audiolibs, not
 kdebase-audiolibs?  Do you have a pointer to something that tells me about
 what kdebase, and kdebase3 are, and how I could determine which I want in
 my case?

Nope. Pure guesswork on my part. Just trying to help. All the other
kdebase stuff is coming in kdebase3, so I figure...

 E: Package kdebase3-audiolibs has no installation candidate
 
 Where do I look next to start tracking this down?

Actually. On examining my current load out, I actually DO have
kdebase-audiolibs loaded. Not kdebase3-audiolibs. Sorry for the
misdirection.

And to answer the $193,000,000, no I didn't win the lottery, and for
some weird reason, no, I didn't retain the deb file. I think I parked it
in tmp, and killed it off at some point over the last week.

Perhaps someone else reading this list actually has the libglib1.3-12
deb still in their apt-cache.

regards,

.brian.

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Kweather not working...

2002-02-17 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
I installed the kweather kicker applet. But, for whatever reason, it
constantly says No data and has a large /?/ button. I've set it to my
local ICAO station (KRDU) but, forwhatever reason, it's not getting any
information. The log file I specified has never been created, either. Is
there a bug or something with the .deb?

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KDE-Debian HowTo for KDE2 Debian3=Woody X86. Ver 0.27

2002-02-17 Thread tluxt2
KDE-Debian HowTo for KDE2  Debian3=Woody X86.  Ver 0.27
By tluxt 020217

STATUS:  kde has been uninstallable for about a week.  :(

It appears the kde metapackage has been been uninstallable for about
a week.  ccheney also hasn't responded to my status request for more
than a week.  I regard this as bad.  I'd hope ccheney could post a status
message for the kde packages at least once, better twice, a week,
in order to save debian-kde list reading installers many hours of
each having to re-discover problems on their own.

Chris - would you please post a very brief status message to the list
twice a week, telling readers what the status of your kde packaging
effort is, and what potential problems installers might encounter,
and how to get around those problems?  Those few minutes of you time
would save many many hours of the list's reader's time.  

I'm sure you are very busy. Thank you for your work.

See:
Broken package status? Some very old. ccheney- would you like some help?
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2002/debian-kde-200202/msg00101.html

You can read a thread about how to overcome the current problems here:
Install kde in Sid fails - depends libkmid... - How fix?
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2002/debian-kde-200202/msg00150.html

=
After much research, and emailing regarding pinning, it appears that
the best method for installing kde into woody might be with
APT::Default-Release testing;
rather than pinning, so that's the procedure I'm recommending now.
Furthermore, I have concluded, by a very tiny margin, that at the
present time it would be better for most current people wanting
KDE 2.2 to install Sid, not Woody, so my procedure suggests that,
and relegates info about default-release  pinning to the chapter on KDE,
and not in the quick instructions.

See the end of Section 3 for current KDE status info:
Some notes about: What is keeping 'kde' metapackage out of Woody?
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2002/debian-kde-200202/msg00060.html


The next parts I'll add (maybe):
How KDE-Debian is progressing based on Debian packages page data
When will KDE on Debian be up to date?
cc could use some help? Where?
text about pinning
After that probably comes howto backup onto CD.
Then sound  kernel compiling?

===
I currently do not have enough time to answer questions about
KDE or Debian, or even various ways to accomplish the tasks described
here.  If you have such questions, please ask them on
debian-kde@lists.debian.org :)

I do welcome info about this document.  If you have any corrections,
or suggestions about it, please send them to me - these I will make
time to answer, if necessary.

This document is in a very early version, and there will be addditions
and changes.

I have done many of the actions described here,
so you have that assurance that (many of) these procedures have worked for
someone.  Many descriptions here are likely from other people (thanks to
them!).  I may have misinterpreted those descriptions, so that's a
possible source of error.

Part of this is created from my not immediately recent
memory, so there might be something incorrect there.  I will attempt
to update this document as I personally redo installs, etc, if I notice
anything that could be improved.

If you see any errors, please let me know.  I have decided I don't have
time to verify all the info sent to me about these procedures that I
conclude should appear in this document.  So for a substantial, and
increasing, part of the document I have included submitters comments
verbatim.

The title of this document includes X86.  That is because I have done
these procedures on that processor.  In general, I suspect these
procedures will usually apply for other processors.

Ultimately the goal is to get this document onto a web page somewhere.
===
===

CONTENTS (Tentative):
*

Part 1:  Intro
**
1) Quick Summary of Install Instructions
2) General Debian Info
 Pointer to apt howto
 Pointer to other persons quick notes
3) KDE SW
 Finding
 Pulling packages from unstable
   With pinning
   otherwise

Part 2:  SW Installation  Descriptions
***
4) Installing Debain  X
5) Installing KDE
 Install KDE
 Some things to set up in KDE
 ) Securty - firewall, filter rules, ssh
6) Printing  Postscript/PDF
 CUPS
 Postscript/PDF; ghostscript gs; Kghostview; gs-aladdin
7) CD Writing  Data Backups
8) Konqueror - Saving webpages, java, flash plugin
9) Pictures - Viewing  Organizing
10) Communications
 email, IRC, ICQ, voice  video meeting, net2phone
11) Sound - drivers, kernel compiling, mp3, realtime
12) Video - MPEG  AVI  Quicktime
13) USB
14) Office Aps:
  WP, HTML editing, Presentations, SSheet, Database
 

CUPS w/mgetty

2002-02-17 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
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Hey Folks,

I'm using Eddie Carpenters Mgetty Fax package for Windon't. It writes
a section into the /etc/printcap file for samba to share mgetty (fax only)
along a network.
Problems arose when we went on with CUPS. IT uses /etc/printcap.cups
and we also have /etc/samba/smb.conf looking at /etc/printcap.cups. Therefore
the fax monitor is non-functional. It is NOT being read by samba, samba isn't
sharing it, I'm w/o fax on the network.

Can I have smb.conf look at both files?
Can I have a section in the /etc/printcap for cups also?
Can I put 'old style' printcap into into printcap.cups and have CUPS
work?
etc

Any one of these in a working mode would allow me to again have my
fax on network back. So you get the idea. I either need to allow samba to
read both files, or get the stanza for the fax monitor into the
/etc/printcap.cups files (and read of course)

from /etc/printcap
==

fax:\
:sd=/var/spool/fax:\
:mx#0:\
:lp=/dev/null:\
:if=/usr/bin/faxlpr:\
:sh

I tried the ADD SPECIAL PRINTER in kcontrol - System - Printing
Manager, but when I tell it to use the command '/usr/bin/faxlpr', it comes
back with an error message; The command doesn't contain the %in' tag.
Which I'm thinking (likely incorrectly) that it would be something along the
lines of '/usr/bin/faxlpr %s' but that's not werking either.

Ideas?
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Chris - Please post a brief status message about KDE-Debian to the list

2002-02-17 Thread tluxt2
Chris - would you please post a very brief status message to the list
twice a week, telling readers what the status of your kde packaging
effort is, and what potential problems installers might encounter,
and how to get around those problems?  Those few minutes of you time
would save many many hours of the list's reader's time.

I'm sure you are very busy, and probably need another thing to do like
you'd need a hole in the head.  But, it would really be a big help. 
I hope you can fit it into your schedule.  Please at least once per
week, if twice is not possible.

Thank you for your work.  :)


===
STATUS:  kde has been uninstallable for about a week.  :(

It appears the kde metapackage has been been uninstallable for about
a week.  ccheney also hasn't responded to my status request for more
than a week.  I regard this as bad.  I'd hope ccheney could post a status
message for the kde packages at least once, better twice, a week,
in order to save debian-kde list reading installers many hours of
each having to re-discover problems on their own.



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Re: Kweather not working...

2002-02-17 Thread Ben Burton

 I installed the kweather kicker applet. But, for whatever reason, it
 constantly says No data and has a large /?/ button. I've set it to my
 local ICAO station (KRDU) but, forwhatever reason, it's not getting any
 information. The log file I specified has never been created, either. Is
 there a bug or something with the .deb?

Hmm, it still works for me.

You're not behind a firewall of some sort are you?  I don't think kweather
is able to use proxies.

Ben.