Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
On Monday 18 February 2002 12:43 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok ccheney is MIA for 1 week with no advance notice of planned absence it's great that you've taken such an interest in helping the maintainers but you seem to have developed an attitude of scorn that really seems unjustified. everyone accepts that all of the maintainers involved with any part of debian actually have other imperatives going on in their lives, and that if and when those imperatives take precedence over the tasks of the distribution for which they've taken on responsibility, such absences that occur do not in any way mitigate the debts of gratitude and respect that the rest of us owe them. what gives you the right to suggest that chris cheney or anyone else is required to provide you with prior notice of any absence? and another thing, if you're going to make a habit of belittling any maintainer's performance, at least have the balls to identify yourself, instead of hiding behind a personal acronym on a web-based mailer. ben
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 10:28:40AM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: I'm willing to do an NMU if there really is a dpendency problem (and Chris doesn't object) but is there really a problem? I have libglib1.3-12 installed and I was also able to install the kde package without any dependency problems. Are you sure it is not just because your apt mirror is not up to date or something? Yes, but repetative demands aside, tluxt does have a point - libkmid *does* depend on libglib1.3-12, which is not available anymore. Last week, when I had to rebuild my machine from bare metal, I tried what tluxt did, and found exactly the same problem. libglib1.3-13 doesn't (for whatever reason) satisfy the dependency (although it does say = 1.3-12 ). At that time, I went trolling through the assorted mirrors and snagged a copy of the libglib1.3-12 deb and installed it. I didn't keep it around accidentally, since I'd pulled it into my temp directory, which I've setup to autoclean. I wasn't particularly worried, since I figured it would be fixed in a day or a few. I *still* figure that. After all, if I choose to track things besides stable, then what I get is subject to change on no notice, neh? Notice to Tluxt: Take advantage of this opportunity to check out one of the other window managers for a while. I've been mucking about with fluxbox recently... Thanks for all the hard work, everyone. .b -- Brian Bilbrey The ships hung in the sky in [EMAIL PROTECTED] much the same way that bricks don't. www.orbdesigns.comDoug Adams, H2G
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 18 February 2002 09:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ccheney is MIA for 1 week with no advance notice of planned [...] 6) Find another maintainer who can fix the metapackage, etc. Just as Ben, Derek and Daniel, I'm really getting annoyed by you. Sometime you appeared on this list and while you seem to do some good work (KDE Debian HowTo) most of what I see from you is that you talk and talk and talk (your emails are SO long, they are by far the longest on this list; in fact, they are so long and have so much irrelevant data in them that I only read very few of them) and you complain _all day long_. Really, why don't you become maintainer (with regard to your 6th point)? Sure, there might be some problems (my Debian KDE runs perfectly, btw, just install the packages you need and everything's fine) but you can't just complain and demand all the time - that will just get everybody pissed off (as has just happened). - -- - -M - --- Magnus von Koeller --- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] address: Georg-Westermann-Allee 76 38104 Braunschweig Germany phone:+49-531-2094886 mobile: +49-179-4562940 web: http://www.vonkoeller.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8cS22UIvM6e6BgFARAkX+AKCguUyedxyNqbDak0NLTTLa8Ok6GgCgpIqD KCfiJOyhzi+5aOeN0cace6E= =Z7nu -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: openoffice install problem under kde
Ok, I've found the solution : if the KDE panel is on the left, OO and SO segfault. But if it is at bottom, everything works OK. Probably it is not a KDE bug, but who knows. -- Putz Ákos Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: openoffice install problem under kde
On Monday 18 February 2002 09:31 am, Putz Akos wrote: Ok, I've found the solution : if the KDE panel is on the left, OO and SO segfault. But if it is at bottom, everything works OK. Probably it is not a KDE bug, but who knows. Putz: I am wondering if you are using an openoffice deb? Have looked around a little but do not see anything. tia, tatah and 73 -- Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. I SHOUT JUST FOR FUN. Free software, in a free world, for a free spirit. Please Support freedom!
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 10:28:40AM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: I'm willing to do an NMU if there really is a dpendency problem (and Chris doesn't object) but is there really a problem? I have libglib1.3-12 installed and I was also able to install the kde package without any dependency problems. Are you sure it is not just because your apt mirror is not up to date or something? This should be fixed in the dinstall today. There will be some other issues that will be fixed once I upload the rest of the kde packages. I hope that I will not be doing quite as much repackaging on the others (except for kdebase). Chris
Re: kdelibs compilation problems
On Monday 18 Feb 2002 10:28 am, Gregor Zeitlinger wrote: Ok, that means I messed up somewhere. Doesn't really surprise me, as I'm new to debian, and I'm getting the impression that you have to be an expert to install it but even a M$ user can update it Building KDE from sources isn't the debian way! - There are packages for KDE 2.2.2. and last week I was running them perfectly. Its only me, because I want to help with some coding that means I need to be4 on the bleeding edge that means I must build from source. -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kdelibs compilation problems
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Alan Chandler wrote: Its only me, because I want to help with some coding that means I need to be4 on the bleeding edge that means I must build from source. me too, but even if you don't want that debian is still more complicated than other distros - that's my impression from using the netinst-cd. -- Gregor Zeitlinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] KDE - Kreate Discover Explore
kde-init?
Should there ever be more than one kde-init process running at a time? Robert
Re: KDE Debian distribution
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:33:28 +0100 (CET) Gregor Zeitlinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any debian based KDE distribution. I think it would be a great thing, because it would combine the power of apt-get with the ease of use of KDE. You should even be able to get all KDE packages and all the GNU/Linux stuff that is required on one cd. Everything else could be installed manually with apt-get. That way the standard installation could be kept very small. A key feature would be a KDE frontent to deselect. Is there something the like already? If you are asking about a Distribution, try http://www.libranet.com. Just started shipping v2.0. -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81| || | 484,246 sq mi are needed for 6 billion people to live, 4 ! ! persons per lot, in lots that are 60'x150'.| ! That is ~ California, Texas and Missouri. ! ! Alternatively, France, Spain and The United Kingdom. | ++
Re: kde-init?
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 02:58:51PM -0500, Robert Tilley wrote: Should there ever be more than one kde-init process running at a time? -- Yes. I guess it's some kind of hack to make KDE apps load faster: http://www.derkarl.org/linking.phtml You'll want to look at section 4 in particular. Using the BSD-style options to ps (like ps aux) will show you the full command-line of a process and tell you what a particular instance of kdeinit really is. Joseph Fannin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell. pgpQptCdD8bO7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kde-init?
Hi, On Monday 18 February 2002 20:58, Robert Tilley wrote: Should there ever be more than one kde-init process running at a time? Yes. There should be only one main kdeinit process per KDE instance (which usually means 1, unless you run e.g. KDE2 + 3 in parallel), but several others for kdeinit'ed applications (strictly spoken: application-like libraries) which make use of the feature which kdeinit mainly provides: library preloading. This is one of the ways to avoid long startup times. There's a README file in $kdecvs/kdelibs/kinit. Look with ps ...f to view the kdeinit tree (or use ksysguard). Josef (back from fosdem ;) -- The MindX Open Source Project: Fighting proprietary games GGZ now! - The GGZ Gaming Zone: http://ggz.sourceforge.net ggz.morat.net | ggz.snafu.de | jzaun.com | mindx.sourceforge.net/europeone
Re: openoffice install problem under kde
On Monday 18 February 2002 19:16, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: Putz: I am wondering if you are using an openoffice deb? Have looked around a little but do not see anything. Hi! (Ok, I know it's a bit confusing, but I'm a hungarian guy. I know, it's strange, but in Hungary the first name is the last, and vice versa. So my first name is 'Akos' :-) ) Also back to the topic : AFAIK there is no openoffice deb. I have installed it from the binary distribution of openoffice.org. -- Putz Ákos Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: openoffice install problem under kde
On Monday 18 February 2002 17:54, Putz Akos wrote: On Monday 18 February 2002 19:16, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: Putz: I am wondering if you are using an openoffice deb? Have looked around a little but do not see anything. Hi! (Ok, I know it's a bit confusing, but I'm a hungarian guy. I know, it's strange, but in Hungary the first name is the last, and vice versa. So my first name is 'Akos' :-) ) Also back to the topic : AFAIK there is no openoffice deb. I have installed it from the binary distribution of openoffice.org. I installed openoffice from some unofficial debs a while back (build 638). Just for fun, I moved the task bar to the left and attempted to open it. it segfaults in line 24 and line 26. It works quite well with the taskbar at the bottom, top, or to the right side of the screen. weird!!! bob
