Re: Kmail issue/problem

2002-03-07 Thread Dan DeVries
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 02:42:57PM -0800, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> 
> I may simply be too confused to help, but . .   Are you *sure* yahoo is your 
> smtp server?  I had used yahoo for a short time, but I had to use my normal 
> ISP's smtp for outgoing mail.  I am still required to use cox's address even 
> though users send me mail @arrl.net.  
> 
> If you are indeed using yahoo as an ISP, then I would double check the smtp 
> settings and verify you are not attempting to *relay* through them 
> erronously.  Also, do you need to pop mail first *then* send?
> 
> Good luck to you.
> 
> tatah and 73

I think your right that I was relaying through them.  I didn't care for
yahoo any more and so I got an account with linuxfreemail.com but when I 
tried to send mail with them I got back a 550 error Relaying denied which oddly
enough doesn't surprize me since our dorms IPs don't reverse lookup which are
from cox but they don't give us a smtp outgoing mail server.  Which surprizes
these messages get through from my own machine. Maybe I'll setup imap or 
something from this machine to may workstations.

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: Kmail issue/problem

2002-03-07 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
On Thursday 07 March 2002 12:14 pm, Dan DeVries wrote:
> Hi,
>  Has anyone else had this problem
>  before I upgraded to sid my Kmail worked perfect but you might notice I'm
>  using Mutt to send this message on a different machine.
>  I can download my mail from yahoo no problem but when I send mail I always
>  get and I quote
>  "sending failed
>   a SMTP error occured
>   Command MAIL
>   Response: 530 authentication required for help got to help.yahoo blah...
>   
>   The following transport protocol was used
>   smtp://smtp.mail.yahoo.com:25"
>
>  no doubt before I sent to this list I have been looking for help or fix it
>
>  I remove Kmail and put back the old version 1.2 instead of 1.3 just incase
>  but the problem persistes.  I looked at FAQ and have tried downloading my
>  mail and then sending whats in my queue, to authenticate but it didn't
> work. There is an option to store mail and send it after
> checking/downloading your mail. Again, it downloads my mail but errors on
> sending my mail.
>
>  I don't get why it is authenticating to get my mail but it can't send it.
>
>  Any Ideas, did I miss something? Do you need more information?
>
>  Note, just in case its yahoo I used Mozilla 0.9.8 and it sent my mail
>
>  By the way other than this KDE works great and just wanted to say what a
>  great job you guys do.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Dan

Dan:

I may simply be too confused to help, but . .   Are you *sure* yahoo is your 
smtp server?  I had used yahoo for a short time, but I had to use my normal 
ISP's smtp for outgoing mail.  I am still required to use cox's address even 
though users send me mail @arrl.net.  

If you are indeed using yahoo as an ISP, then I would double check the smtp 
settings and verify you are not attempting to *relay* through them 
erronously.  Also, do you need to pop mail first *then* send?

Good luck to you.

tatah and 73

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Re: Kmail issue/problem

2002-03-07 Thread David Bishop
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IIRC, Yahoo does a "check-before-send" sort of authentication, so you 
*should* be able to just check your mail, then send, and have it work fine.  
That meshes with the "authentication required" message.  If that doesn't fix 
it, then, uh, I dunno :-)  

On Thursday 07 March 2002 01:14 pm, Dan DeVries wrote:
> Hi,
>  Has anyone else had this problem
>  before I upgraded to sid my Kmail worked perfect but you might notice I'm
>  using Mutt to send this message on a different machine.
>  I can download my mail from yahoo no problem but when I send mail I always
>  get and I quote
>  "sending failed
>   a SMTP error occured
>   Command MAIL
>   Response: 530 authentication required for help got to help.yahoo blah...
>   
>   The following transport protocol was used
>   smtp://smtp.mail.yahoo.com:25"
>
>  no doubt before I sent to this list I have been looking for help or fix it
>
>  I remove Kmail and put back the old version 1.2 instead of 1.3 just incase
>  but the problem persistes.  I looked at FAQ and have tried downloading my
>  mail and then sending whats in my queue, to authenticate but it didn't
> work. There is an option to store mail and send it after
> checking/downloading your mail. Again, it downloads my mail but errors on
> sending my mail.
>
>  I don't get why it is authenticating to get my mail but it can't send it.
>
>  Any Ideas, did I miss something? Do you need more information?
>
>  Note, just in case its yahoo I used Mozilla 0.9.8 and it sent my mail
>
>  By the way other than this KDE works great and just wanted to say what a
>  great job you guys do.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Dan
>
>
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Kmail issue/problem

2002-03-07 Thread Dan DeVries
Hi,
 Has anyone else had this problem
 before I upgraded to sid my Kmail worked perfect but you might notice I'm
 using Mutt to send this message on a different machine.
 I can download my mail from yahoo no problem but when I send mail I always
 get and I quote
 "sending failed
  a SMTP error occured
  Command MAIL
  Response: 530 authentication required for help got to help.yahoo blah...
  
  The following transport protocol was used
  smtp://smtp.mail.yahoo.com:25"

 no doubt before I sent to this list I have been looking for help or fix it

 I remove Kmail and put back the old version 1.2 instead of 1.3 just incase
 but the problem persistes.  I looked at FAQ and have tried downloading my
 mail and then sending whats in my queue, to authenticate but it didn't work.
 There is an option to store mail and send it after checking/downloading your
 mail. Again, it downloads my mail but errors on sending my mail.

 I don't get why it is authenticating to get my mail but it can't send it.

 Any Ideas, did I miss something? Do you need more information?
 
 Note, just in case its yahoo I used Mozilla 0.9.8 and it sent my mail
 
 By the way other than this KDE works great and just wanted to say what a
 great job you guys do.

 Thanks,
 Dan
 
 


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Re: Kdevelop

2002-03-07 Thread David Bishop
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Are you running potato, woody, or sid?  Have you apt-get upgraded to the 
lastest?  Has this recently started, after working fine, or did you just try 
it for the first time?

On Thursday 07 March 2002 09:50 am, Marc Muller wrote:
> Hello
>
> I can not start a new project in kdevelop.
> The icons appears on the menu, but I can't click on it.
> It is the same in the menu.
>
> What should I do ?

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Kdevelop

2002-03-07 Thread Marc Muller
Hello

I can not start a new project in kdevelop.
The icons appears on the menu, but I can't click on it.
It is the same in the menu.

What should I do ?
--
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Re: KDE status update

2002-03-07 Thread David Bishop
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I didn't even think of this, but are you using the 2_2_BRANCH of kpilot or 
current cvs?  The reason I ask, is that (unfortunetly!) the 2.2.2 branch is 
completely broken for most people*.  The current cvs compiles and runs fine 
for both 3.0 and 2.2.2**, and is the only one supported.  There are other 
problems (most of the conduits don't work correctly), but it can at least 
backup/restore all devices, and actually works for usb devices.  I would 
*highly* recommend using that instead of the old code.  

In order to compile the new code, do a cvs checkout of kdepim -r 2_2_BRANCH, 
then rm -fR kdepim/kpilot, and cvs co kdepim/kpilot, all before running make 
- -f Makefile.cvs.  I would be *very* interested if this doesn't compile under 
gcc3.0 for any given platform.  If this isn't a solution, I will try and work 
with Adriaan to fix the other error, but of course I can't promise anything :(

*That is, usb-support is almost useless, most conduits are flacky, backup and 
restore are iffy

**That is a stated design goal for the next release of KPilot, and I am 
personally the one responsible for making sure it stays 2.2.* compatible :-)

On Wednesday 06 March 2002 05:55 pm, Chris Cheney wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:34:06PM -0700, David Bishop wrote:
> > What gcc 3.0 issues? I'm on pretty good terms with the kpilot developer,
> > and would be willing to do some leg work to get this into woody.  And not
> > having korganizer, kpilot, knotes, etc, would suck :-)
> >
> > - --
> > D.A.Bishop
>
> Please take a look at this bug:
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/133697
>
> http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=kdepim&ver=4%3A2.2.2-4&arch=hppa&st
>amp=1008870358&file=log&as=raw
>
> It does not compile at all on HPPA which is an arch that intends to ship
> with woody, which makes it an RC bug. :<
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
> this looks like it might be the culprit:
>
> c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include/kde -I/usr/include/qt
> -I.  -I/usr/include/libpisock -I/usr/include/libpisock-DNDEBUG -O2
> -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new  -c kpilot.cc kpilot.cc: In destructor
> `virtual KPilotInstaller::~KPilotInstaller()': kpilot.cc:230: no matching
> function for call to `std::basic_ofstream
> >::basic_ofstream(int)'
> /usr/include/g++-v3/bits/std_iosfwd.h:84: candidates are:
>std::basic_ofstream >::basic_ofstream(const
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Re: KWeather Users...

2002-03-07 Thread Scott Eisert
On Thursday 07 March 2002 09:06 am, Bob Underwood wrote:
> On Thursday 07 March 2002 01:35, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 02:36:05PM +1100, Ben Burton wrote:
> > > Hi.  Regarding the recent postings about kweather, could people please
> > > mail me (privately is fine) if:
> > >
> > > - You use kweather with woody and it *does* work, or
> >
> > Nay.
> >
> > > - You use kweather with sid and it *doesn't* work (and the problem is
> > > not simply a firewall getting in the way)?
> >
> > Yay.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > :) d
>
> i have kweather on a mixed woody/sid system; kde from sid, everything else
> woody.  it works, with the occasional request for authorization.
>
> bob

I have a similar configuration (woody/sid mix) with similar results.  
Additionally, while the report seems accurate the date and time are in the 
incorrect (well they are in the future).  Adjusting the GMT offset also seems 
to do nothing.

- Scott




Re: KWeather Users...

2002-03-07 Thread Bob Underwood
On Thursday 07 March 2002 01:35, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 02:36:05PM +1100, Ben Burton wrote:
> > Hi.  Regarding the recent postings about kweather, could people please
> > mail me (privately is fine) if:
> >
> > - You use kweather with woody and it *does* work, or
>
> Nay.
>
> > - You use kweather with sid and it *doesn't* work (and the problem is not
> > simply a firewall getting in the way)?
>
> Yay.
>
> Cheers!
>
> :) d

i have kweather on a mixed woody/sid system; kde from sid, everything else 
woody.  it works, with the occasional request for authorization.

bob




Re: kghostview dependency problem and vi cursors still broken in woody

2002-03-07 Thread Ben Burton

> Firstly, Im having dependency problems with kghostview and koffice-libs
>
> koffice-libs recommends kghostview >= 2.2-0 which is not available.

The recommends was added to fix an earlier print preview bug.  You should 
find kghostview >= 2.2-0 in sid.

Someone's already reported this as a bug since woody only has kghostview 2.1, 
but I'm not going to change the recommends:.  I actually suspect that by the 
time the new koffice build migrated to woody, kghostview 2.2 would be there 
already.

At any rate, the recommends: is there for a reason, sid is fine and we're 
just waiting for kghostview 2.2 to migrate to testing.

Ben.

> Has a bug report been submitted?

You can check this yourself by visiting:
http://bugs.debian.org/koffice-libs

Ben.

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Re: KDE status update

2002-03-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:31:53AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> ... and then I remember that debugging on i386 will be awkward because
> the whole world isn't compiled with g++-3.0. Hm. I'm taking another tack
> now.

I'm now quite amazed at how remarkably difficult g++-3.0 makes it to
construct an ostream from a file descriptor. It'll be possible with some
hacking - see:

  
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/17_intro/porting-howto.html#sec-stream::attach

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Re: KDE status update

2002-03-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 09:50:47PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 03:42:15AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> > I had a look, since it looks like it should be reproducible on any
> > architecture with gcc-3.0. I couldn't even get it to build on i386
> > though ...
> > 
> > That's with kdepim 4:2.2.2-5, after 'apt-get build-dep kdepim' and
> > 'debian/rules build'. I'm reluctant to file a bug straight away, because
> > it does seem to have autobuilt on some architectures (mips, mipsel,
> > powerpc, s390).
> 
> Let me guess, automake1.5? Could you please install 1.4 and tell me how
> you go?

Ah yes, that's it, thanks. Looks like 'apt-get build-dep' is
incorrigibly stupid and didn't spot that I already had a sufficient
version of automake installed, so it went for the broken alternative.

... and then I remember that debugging on i386 will be awkward because
the whole world isn't compiled with g++-3.0. Hm. I'm taking another tack
now.

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Re: KDE status update

2002-03-07 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 03:42:15AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:51:07PM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote:
> > kdepim- only god can save this package[*]
> [...]
> > * If anyone knows how to fix the gcc 3.0 issues with kdepim please do
> > so asap.
> 
> I had a look, since it looks like it should be reproducible on any
> architecture with gcc-3.0. I couldn't even get it to build on i386
> though ...
> 
> That's with kdepim 4:2.2.2-5, after 'apt-get build-dep kdepim' and
> 'debian/rules build'. I'm reluctant to file a bug straight away, because
> it does seem to have autobuilt on some architectures (mips, mipsel,
> powerpc, s390).

Let me guess, automake1.5? Could you please install 1.4 and tell me how
you go?

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Re: KDE status update

2002-03-07 Thread Joaquim Ortega Cerdà
On Thu, Colin Watson wrote:
>I had a look, since it looks like it should be reproducible on any
>architecture with gcc-3.0. I couldn't even get it to build on i386
>though ...
[...]
>That's with kdepim 4:2.2.2-5, after 'apt-get build-dep kdepim' and
>'debian/rules build'. I'm reluctant to file a bug straight away, because
>it does seem to have autobuilt on some architectures (mips, mipsel,
>powerpc, s390).

I tried it, and it compiles (on i386) if you have  automake1.4-p4-1.1 
installed but apparently it does not  if you have automake1.5 instead.

kdepim source build-depends on automake (>= 1:1.4-p4-1.1) | automake1.5

Hope this helps.

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Re: KDE status update

2002-03-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:51:07PM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote:
> kdepim- only god can save this package[*]
[...]
> * If anyone knows how to fix the gcc 3.0 issues with kdepim please do
> so asap.

I had a look, since it looks like it should be reproducible on any
architecture with gcc-3.0. I couldn't even get it to build on i386
though ...

*** Creating aclocal.m4
*** Creating configure
configure.in:119: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
*** Creating config.h template
configure.in:119: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
*** Creating Makefile templates
empath/lib/Makefile.am:8: variable `LIBQPTHREAD' not defined
empath/parts/libEmpathMessageViewWidget/Makefile.am:7: variable `KDE_MODULE' 
not defined
kab2/Makefile.am:27: kab2includedir multiply defined in condition TRUE

  kab2includedir (User, where = 27) =
  {
TRUE => $(includedir)/kab2
  }
kab2/Makefile.am:36: kab2include_HEADERS multiply defined in condition TRUE

  kab2include_HEADERS (User, where = 36) =
  {
TRUE => \
  Command.h \
  Entry.h \
  Field.h \
  FieldFormat.h \
  FormatDefinition.h \
  KAddressBookBackend.h \
  KAddressBookInterface.h

  }
korganizer/Makefile.am:7: libkorganizer_la_LDFLAGS multiply defined in 
condition TRUE

  libkorganizer_la_LDFLAGS (User, where = 7) =
  {
TRUE => $(all_libraries) $(KDE_RPATH)
  }
make[1]: *** [cvs] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/cjwatson/src/packages/kdepim/kdepim-2.2.2'
make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2

That's with kdepim 4:2.2.2-5, after 'apt-get build-dep kdepim' and
'debian/rules build'. I'm reluctant to file a bug straight away, because
it does seem to have autobuilt on some architectures (mips, mipsel,
powerpc, s390).

-- 
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Re: KWeather Users...

2002-03-07 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 02:36:05PM +1100, Ben Burton wrote:
> Hi.  Regarding the recent postings about kweather, could people please mail 
> me (privately is fine) if:
> 
> - You use kweather with woody and it *does* work, or

Nay.

> - You use kweather with sid and it *doesn't* work (and the problem is not 
> simply a firewall getting in the way)?

Yay.

Cheers!
:) d

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Re: KDE status update + Dates, metapackage, installing

2002-03-07 Thread tluxt2
--- Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> kdelibs   - should go into woody once m68k builds
> kdebase   - should go into woody once m68k, arm, mips builds
> 
> kdeadmin  - should go into woody once arm, m68k, s390, sparc builds
> kdegraphics   - needs new upload to remove kamera
> kdemultimedia - needs build on all arch
> kdenetwork- should go into woody once alpha, hppa, ia64, m68k,sparcbuilds
> kdepim- only god can save this package[*]
> kdeutils  - needs new upload to remove ark
> 
> So it may still be possible for KDE to make it into woody, but it looks
> like kamera, ark, and kdepim will be casualties.

Excellent work, Chris (and everyone who helped on this).   :)

1) What are the dates that you expect the above _uplaods_ to occur on?
Is is _safe_ to install those packages before the new uploads are available?
(Ie, it won't do any harm to install those packages.  Merely, the parts that
you mention above that need to be removed will just not install successfully,
but everything else in the package _will_ be installed properly, and will be
the latest version.)

2) You didn't mention the "kde" metapackage for Sid.  What is its status?
I.e., when will (when installing from Sid)
apt-get install kde
properly install the entire kde system?  
(Or, will there be no 'kde' metapackage?)

3) Until the kde metapackage is available, what is the procedure for installing
all of kde that is available onto a basic Sid system?
a) Is there an order that must be followed in installing the packages?
b) Does one just do:
"apt-get install  kdelibs kdebase kdeadmin kdegraphics kdemultimedia 
kdenetwork kdepim kdeutils"
c) Which of those packages should not be installed on a base Sid system as of
right now?
d) If one should wait for an upload before installing some of those packages,
will you let us know when they have become available, or, is there a web page
or ftp site or apt-get command that we can check to find out if the new upload
is availabe?

4) For the packages which you say "needs build", is that something that
requires no human intervention to occur?  (Ie, we are just waiting for a system
that automatically does builds to get around to building those packages?)

Thanks.  :)


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Re: kghostview dependency problem and vi cursors still broken in woody

2002-03-07 Thread Casey Paul Scott
I just did an update about an hour ago, and found 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get -t unstable install kghostview
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 338  not 
upgraded.
Need to get 144kB of archives. After unpacking 147kB will be freed.
Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main kghostview 4:2.2.2-6.1 
[144kB]
Fetched 144kB in 1s (105kB/s)
(Reading database ... 92234 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace kghostview 4:2.1.1-6 (using 
.../kghostview_4%3a2.2.2-6.1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement kghostview ...
Setting up kghostview (2.2.2-6.1) ...

Could be your mirror?

On Wednesday 06 March 2002 09:17 pm, Crispin Wellington wrote:
> Did a fresh install of woody. Installation ran without a hitch.
>
> Firstly, Im having dependency problems with kghostview and
> koffice-libs
>
> koffice-libs recommends kghostview >= 2.2-0 which is not available.
>
> Even sid doesn't seem to have such an advanced version of kghostview.
> Im assuming the dependency info in koffice-libs is incorrect. Anyone
> else experiencing this? Any work arounds? Has a bug report been
> submitted?
>
> Secondly, the arrow keys in vi are still broken (was discussed
> without adequate resolution in Febrary on debian-testing) :( Has a
> bug report been submitted to the vi maintainer?
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Crispin Wellington




Re: kghostview dependency problem and vi cursors still broken in woody

2002-03-07 Thread Chris Cheney
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 01:17:16PM +0800, Crispin Wellington wrote:
> Did a fresh install of woody. Installation ran without a hitch.
> 
> Firstly, Im having dependency problems with kghostview and koffice-libs
> 
> koffice-libs recommends kghostview >= 2.2-0 which is not available.
> 
> Even sid doesn't seem to have such an advanced version of kghostview. Im
> assuming the dependency info in koffice-libs is incorrect. Anyone else
> experiencing this? Any work arounds? Has a bug report been submitted?

sid does have kghostview 2.2.2-6.1, I am not sure about woody.

> Secondly, the arrow keys in vi are still broken (was discussed without
> adequate resolution in Febrary on debian-testing) :( Has a bug report
> been submitted to the vi maintainer?

You need new libncurses5

Chris