OT: SGL [was Re: kdebase-libs2.2.2 breaks all regular user logins?]

2002-03-08 Thread Justin R. Miller
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Said John Gay on Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 10:19:27PM +:

> If I didn't have such a slow, expensive connection I've been wanting
> to try out Sorcerer Linux to keep a bit more up-to-date than Debian. I
> love Debian's apt and dpkg tools, but Sorcerer's ability to fetch
> source code directly from the app's homepage and compile it locally,
> fully optimised for your system sounds like a great way to keep
> up-to-date!

SGL is really sweet, and it's a lot of fun!  Be warned that it's a
little rough, though, as far as distros go.  It assumes that you know a
fair bit about how things in a GNU/Linux system work.  I'd hate to see
project die... (see recent press re: SGL). 

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kdebase-libs2.2.2 breaks all regular user logins?

2002-03-08 Thread John Gay
I'm not quite sure which caused this, but. . .

I had been burning ISO's of Woody from files I had copied from DVD. The DVD 
and CD-RW are on the same IDE port.

As One ot the CD's was burning away, I tried to check out the DVD, and my 
system locked up tighter than a drum!

After waiting many minutes for it to sort itself out I had to resort to 
hitting the reset button. During this session, I had also updated a few kde 
libs. When the system finally finished fixing all the file systems, I found 
that I could not log in as any regular user? Root could log in though?!?

I tried the usual moving the .kde* files and even created a new user, but no 
joy at all.

Since I had CD's of Woody from early Jan, thanks to the DVD, I re-installed 
everything, keeping my home partition intact (Good idea to have several 
partitions)

Once I got this working, I started to update it bit by bit, since I'm on a 
pay-per-minute dialup access. After the last set of updates, that included 
updating kdebase-libs to 2.2.2 I found that I, once again, could not log into 
kde? Using the CD's I downgraded kdebase-libs and kdebase to2.2.1.0-6 and 
this restored my login?!?

Obviously, I've got a serious problem with libs, since no one else has 
reported this type of problem. Here is what I have installed under kde:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l|grep kde
ii  kde-designer   2.3.0-final-1  QT GUI Designer (with KDE widget support)
ii  kde-games  2.2.19 The K Desktop Environment (Games and Toys)
ii  kde-i18n-engb  2.2.2-1English (UK) i18n files for KDE
ii  kdebase2.2.1.0-6  KDE core applications
ii  kdebase-audiol 2.2.2-14   KDE audio libraries amd modules for kdebase
ii  kdebase-crypto 2.2.2-1KDE crypto control module
ii  kdebase-doc2.2.1.0-6  Documentation for Applications in kdebase
ii  kdebase-libs   2.2.1.0-6  KDE libraries and modules for kdebase
ii  kdecarddecks   2.2.2-1Card decks for KDE games
ii  kdelibs-dev2.2.2-5KDE core libraries (development files)
ii  kdelibs3   2.2.2-5KDE core libraries (runtime files)
ii  kdelibs3-crypt 2.2.2-5KDE core crypto libraries
ii  kdelibs3-doc   2.2.2-5KDE core library documentation
ii  kdepasswd  2.2.2-5A Password changer frontend for KDE
ii  kdepim-libs2.1.1-4KDE libraries amd modules for kdepim
ii  kdesdk-scripts 2.2.2-2a set of useful development scripts for KDE
ii  kdetoys-doc-ht 2.2.2-2KDE toys documentation in HTML format
ii  kdevelop   2.0.2-1An IDE for Unix/X11
ii  kdevelop-data  2.0.2-1Platform independent data files for the kdev
ii  kdevelop-doc   2.0.2-1Documentation for the kdevelop package
ii  kdewallpapers  2.2.1.0-6  Some wallpapers for KDE
ii  libkdegames2.2.2-2KDE Games library and common files
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Obvously, all the kde stuff should be 2.2.2, but since I had to downgrade 
kdebase and kdebase-libs to get my login working, somethign else must be 
causing a conflict. What other libs and such should I check to see where this 
conflict is coming from? And why would root still be able to log in, but no 
regular uses?

This is very strange indeed!

If I didn't have such a slow, expensive connection I've been wanting to try 
out Sorcerer Linux to keep a bit more up-to-date than Debian. I love Debian's 
apt and dpkg tools, but Sorcerer's ability to fetch source code directly from 
the app's homepage and compile it locally, fully optimised for your system 
sounds like a great way to keep up-to-date!

I hope someone can point me in the right direction!

Before I forget, Great job Chris and everyone! I especially like Chris' 
recent status update! Nice to see where we are heading! Keep up the great 
work!

Cheers,

John Gay




Re: Kmail issue/problem

2002-03-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 05:05, Dan DeVries wrote:
> I think your right that I was relaying through them.  I didn't care for
> yahoo any more and so I got an account with linuxfreemail.com but when I

Please don't use linuxfreemail.  They spam the lists with stupid messages 
about viruses.  People that stupid shouldn't be allowed to run mail servers.

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X/KDE Font problem

2002-03-08 Thread Daniel Haas
Hi!
I did a fresh install of woody some days ago. All works fine, and I'm 
surprised of the speed debians KDE has. I had a selfcompiled objprelinked KDE 
2.2.1 before (Mandrake 8.0+) but KDE now nearly is 100% faster! Thanks for 
your great job in packaging KDE!

But i wouldn't have posted, if there wasn't a small problem:
My problem is, that i cannot get TrueType Fonts working under KDE. I have 
configured them under X (/etc/X11/XF86Config-4) and they work, xfontsel shows 
them all. Also AA works great, but in KControls Font module, i can only 
select between 3 different fonts. And KDE just looks ugly with this fonts. 
(something like Times New Roman). Is there any kde/x package to install 
fonts? Or what have I missed when configuring the fonts for x? (yes i called  
mkttfdir for my Truetype font dir, and as said, X doesn't complain about 
anything) its just that i cannot get them to list in the font dialog. I also 
tried kfontinst (found no package, so compiled it by myself), but this tool 
did not work for me neither.


Sorry my english, its just ... - not my first language. (but 'leo:' does a 
great job sometimes ;-) )

Any suggestions would be very appreciated. 
Thanks in advance, 
Daniel




Re: Liquid v8.1

2002-03-08 Thread Chris Howells
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On Friday 08 March 2002 1:10 pm, tom wrote:

> I read ur message under the kde-debian mailing list, where u said u had a
> liquid 8.1 tar.gz.
> So i wrote to say i am interested that u send i to me...
> is it possible?

Hmm, since it's 300k I've put it on my web site.

http://chrishowells.co.uk/mosfet-liquid0.8.1.tar.gz

Note: due to bugs, it doesn't work as well as it could. Don't tell me or 
mosfet about it ;)


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Re: Kde Liquid

2002-03-08 Thread Chris Howells
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On Friday 08 March 2002 09:18, Franz Keferboeck wrote:

> There are currently no more efforts to develop a KDE2.2 version of it, and

Last time I looked, mosfet said that he'd be porting some stuff back to KDE 2.

> he took it off the site cause there were/are problems with QT3. If you're
> using KDE2.2, use the old packages, if you're useing sid and want to change
> to KDE3 then wait another week or so;-)

There's a few bugs in KDE/Qt which needs to be handled first. I have a liquid 
0.8.1 tarball here if anybody wants it.

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Re: Kde Liquid

2002-03-08 Thread Franz Keferboeck
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On Friday 08 March 2002 10:12, Marc Muller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am lookin for liquid (kde theme from Mofset) deb. There are non
> longer on is web site.
> Where can I found them ?
>
> Thanks

There are currently no more efforts to develop a KDE2.2 version of it, and he
took it off the site cause there were/are problems with QT3. If you're using
KDE2.2, use the old packages, if you're useing sid and want to change to KDE3
then wait another week or so;-)

MfG
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Kde Liquid

2002-03-08 Thread Marc Muller
Hi,

I am lookin for liquid (kde theme from Mofset) deb. There are non
longer on is web site. 
Where can I found them ?

Thanks

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Re: Kmail issue/problem

2002-03-08 Thread Soenke von Stamm
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Hi,

you say it works with Mozilla which makes me guess they use 
smtp-authentication which is being used by some ISPs nowadays. 
POP-before-SMTP support might have been dropped at the same time. I don't 
know cuz I _don't_ Yahoo =8P

Sönke


Am Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 22:06 schrieb David Bishop:
> IIRC, Yahoo does a "check-before-send" sort of authentication, so you
> *should* be able to just check your mail, then send, and have it work fine.
> That meshes with the "authentication required" message.  If that doesn't
> fix it, then, uh, I dunno :-)
>
> On Thursday 07 March 2002 01:14 pm, Dan DeVries wrote:
> > Hi,
> >  Has anyone else had this problem
> >  before I upgraded to sid my Kmail worked perfect but you might notice
> > I'm using Mutt to send this message on a different machine.
> >  I can download my mail from yahoo no problem but when I send mail I
> > always get and I quote
> >  "sending failed
> >   a SMTP error occured
> >   Command MAIL
> >   Response: 530 authentication required for help got to help.yahoo
> > blah... 
> >   The following transport protocol was used
> >   smtp://smtp.mail.yahoo.com:25"
> >
> >  no doubt before I sent to this list I have been looking for help or fix
> > it
> >
> >  I remove Kmail and put back the old version 1.2 instead of 1.3 just
> > incase but the problem persistes.  I looked at FAQ and have tried
> > downloading my mail and then sending whats in my queue, to authenticate
> > but it didn't work. There is an option to store mail and send it after
> > checking/downloading your mail. Again, it downloads my mail but errors on
> > sending my mail.
> >
> >  I don't get why it is authenticating to get my mail but it can't send
> > it.
> >
> >  Any Ideas, did I miss something? Do you need more information?
> >
> >  Note, just in case its yahoo I used Mozilla 0.9.8 and it sent my mail
> >
> >  By the way other than this KDE works great and just wanted to say what a
> >  great job you guys do.
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >  Dan
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Kmail issue/problem

2002-03-08 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
On Thursday 07 March 2002 08:05 pm, Dan DeVries wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 02:42:57PM -0800, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> > I may simply be too confused to help, but . .   Are you *sure* yahoo is
> > your smtp server?  I had used yahoo for a short time, but I had to use my
> > normal ISP's smtp for outgoing mail.  I am still required to use cox's
> > address even though users send me mail @arrl.net.
> >
> > If you are indeed using yahoo as an ISP, then I would double check the
> > smtp settings and verify you are not attempting to *relay* through them
> > erronously.  Also, do you need to pop mail first *then* send?
> >
> > Good luck to you.
> >
> > tatah and 73
>
> I think your right that I was relaying through them.  I didn't care for
> yahoo any more and so I got an account with linuxfreemail.com but when I
> tried to send mail with them I got back a 550 error Relaying denied which
> oddly enough doesn't surprize me since our dorms IPs don't reverse lookup
> which are from cox but they don't give us a smtp outgoing mail server. 
> Which surprizes these messages get through from my own machine. Maybe I'll
> setup imap or something from this machine to may workstations.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan

Dan:

Here is the link that you need:
http://support.cox.net/custsup/email/POP_SMTP_settings.shtml

tatah

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