Re: audio io slave, ogg, and incorrect bitrates.

[Chris Cheney]

Woody has been frozen since last april (roughly 76 days). This bug is
fixed in KDE 3 though.

Chris

On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 11:17:38AM +0800, Alwyn Schoeman wrote:
> Apparently there is a patch for kde 2.2.2 here:
> 
> http://homepage.usask.ca/~aco907/audiocd-vorbisrc3.patch
> 
> I cannot see how this is still broken in the current 2.2.2 that is in
> testing, but it is. Does it mean that the kde developers have not fixed
> the problem yet themselves or is it the Debian packager's responsibility
> to patch in the distribution?  


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Re: audio io slave, ogg, and incorrect bitrates.

[Alwyn Schoeman]

Apparently there is a patch for kde 2.2.2 here:

http://homepage.usask.ca/~aco907/audiocd-vorbisrc3.patch

I cannot see how this is still broken in the current 2.2.2 that is in
testing, but it is. Does it mean that the kde developers have not fixed
the problem yet themselves or is it the Debian packager's responsibility
to patch in the distribution?  

On Sun, 2002-07-14 at 03:12, Walter Hofmann wrote:
> See 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=141092&repeatmerged=yes
> 
> Exactly 100 days old :)
> 
> Walter
> 
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Re: KDE 3.1

[Ben Burton]

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> > kdelibs, kdebase, kdemultimedia are at version 3.0.6

FWIW, 3.0.6 is the official code version for 3.1-alpha1.

> > kdeartwork, kdeedu, kdesdk, kdetoys are at version 3.0.2
>
> These are Ben Burtons packages

I'll be updating these to 3.1 once the 3.1 core packages are available; for 
one thing it seems sane to wait till the core packages are settled enough to 
actually be made public, and for another I'm running KDE3 in a chroot on my 
KDE2.2.2 machine so I can support my woody/sid packages, and I'd rather not 
rebuild all the core packages myself. :)

> > kdegames is at version 3.0.0 rc4
>
> I think that is also one of Bens. I'd need to check

Nope.  Daniel Schepler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

Ben.

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blank screen on kde from cvs

[andy rayner]

On Monday 15 July 2002 08:22 am, Wendy Rayner wrote:
> Hello,
> On woody, i built kde from cvs, however all i see is a blank screen on
> start. I followed the instructions on kde.org on installing 2 versions of
> kde: set .bash_profile as:
> KDEDIR=/usr/local/kdecvs
> QTDIR=/usr/local/qt
> KDEHOME=~/.kdecvs
> PATH=$PATH:$KDEDIR/bin:$QTDIR/bin
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$KDEDIR/lib:$QTDIR/lib
> export KDEDIR QTDIR KDEHOME PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH MANPATH
> -
> and put starkde in .xinitrc
>
> The end part on the output from X is as follows:
>
> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse1" (type: MOUSE)
> Could not init font path element unix/:-1, removing from list!
> QObject::connect: No such slot QObject::newClient(int)
> QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
> QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'unnamed')
> QObject::connect: No such slot QObject::slotTerminate()
> QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
> QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'unnamed')
> QObject::connect: No such slot QObject::slotCleanDeadConnections()
> QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
> QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'unnamed')
> xinit:  connection to X server lost.
> 
> i'm using qt-3.0.4
> (I deleted all the .DCOP* stuff and /tmp stuff before starting X)
>
> any ideas ?
> thanks, Andy

well to answer my own question...
I changed the order on the PATH line to:
PATH=$KDEDIR/bin:$QTDIR/bin:$PATH

and now it works


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noatun crashes on startup

[David Gibb]

system info:
athlon 1.4GHz
256MB memory
debian woody/sid


stderr gives:
mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding
ASSERT: "mPlaylist" in ../../../noatun/library/pluginloader.cpp (259)
KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
KCrash: Application Name = noatun path =  pid = 20174
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!


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Re: Noatun crashes on startup

[Nicolai Guba]

On Monday 15 July 2002 11:02 pm, David Gibb wrote:
> Does anyone else have this problem?

Nope.  But then, you are not telling much...  Maybe a stack trace or system 
info...?


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Re: Just how long does it take to compile?

[Matthew M]

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On Monday 15 July 2002 8:34 pm, John Gay wrote:
> So, my question is, just how long can I expect the rest of KDE3 to take to
> compile?

Ages. kdelibs and kdebase both take about the same amount of time to compile 
as QT, so thats ages. Then you have to compile any of the other packages you 
want, like kdenetwork or kdegames. So you are looking at quite a long time ;)

*matt*
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Noatun crashes on startup

[David Gibb]

Does anyone else have this problem?
Does anyone have a fix?

I'm running 3.0.2

Dave


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audiocd

[David Gibb]

actually, while it claimed that is was copying 92 MB on the copy dialog, it 
only copied 37.

Dave


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Just how long does it take to compile?

[John Gay]

I've been playing arould with Debain for several years now, but I've always 
been aware of the delay between software release and Debian release, 
especially when freeze is approching. I've been toying with the idea of 
building my own custom box for a while, and since I have some spare hardware 
and several source tar balls around, I decided to give it a go.

Unfortunately, the box is rather old, 200Mhz Pentium MMX with 16M ram. I 
installed a base Debian from Woody CD's and most of the development files.

Next, I compiled X4.2.0 from sources I have on CD to support my GVX1 card.

Now I am in the process of compiling KDE3. I say in the process, Actually qt 
libs have been compiling now for over 24 hours! I did have a problem with 
memory limitations, and had to re-size both my root and swap partitions. I 
realise 16M is far too little memory, but I am hoping that if I get this box 
running, I can swap it for my daughters box which has 64M of the same type of 
memory.

So, my question is, just how long can I expect the rest of KDE3 to take to 
compile? Yes, I know I can now get unstable deb's, but I want to try it for 
myself. The tar balls are from around Jan this year.

Cheers,

John Gay


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mcopidl and audiocds

[David Gibb]

kdevelop now works! The package was libarts1-dev. I missed out on the 1 
before.

But now I'm having problems with audiocd. It rips fine, but it's always at 
~100 kbps. In kde 2.2.2 a similar thing happened, but then it was always ~400 
kbps. Is this a kde 3.0.2 bug?

Dave


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mcopidl and audiocd

[David Gibb]

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Sucess! I installed libarts1-dev (confusing, that wee little '1') and 
everything worked fine.

But I have another question.

A few days ago I tried (on kde 2.2.2) to rip a cd with the audiocd thingy. It 
worked, but all of my files were 400+ kbps. 

Now when I rip cds, I always get ~100 kbps oggs, even though it's set at 256 
kbps.

But it gets weirder. 

I think these files _are_ at 256, because a fifty minute cd copies as 92.2 MB, 
which is much more then what 100 kbps would produce.

Any thoughts?

Dave
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Re: mcopidl

[mbishops]

> I recently installed kde 3.0.2 and I was trying to get compiling within
> kdevelop to work. I installed qt3-mt-dev, kdebase-dev, and kdelib-dev,
but
> kdevelop still complains with
>
>
> configure: error: The important program mcopidl was not found!
> Please check whether you installed KDE correctly.
> *** failed ***
>
> What did I fail to install?
>
> thanks!
>

You gotta install arts first. Try and let me (us) know.

Take care,
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mcopidl

[David Gibb]

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I recently installed kde 3.0.2 and I was trying to get compiling within 
kdevelop to work. I installed qt3-mt-dev, kdebase-dev, and kdelib-dev, but 
kdevelop still complains with


configure: error: The important program mcopidl was not found! 
Please check whether you installed KDE correctly. 
*** failed *** 

What did I fail to install?

thanks!

Dave
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Re: Modifying kde-update-menu.sh to have merged menus?

[Brad Felmey]

On Fri, 2002-07-12 at 14:09, Brad Felmey wrote:

> In order to ditch the $applnk_list/Debian submenus and have the items
> appear in the $applnk_list menus instead (truly merged menus), could I
> not modify the kde-update-menu.sh file so that occurences of type:
> 
> if [ -e $PREFIX/Apps ]; then
>   cp /etc/kde3/debian/d-debian.desktop $PREFIX/Apps/.directory
>   rm -f $NEWPREFIX/Applications/Debian
>   ln -sf $PREFIX/Apps $NEWPREFIX/Applications/Debian
> else
>   rm -f $NEWPREFIX/Applications/Debian
> fi
> 
> Becomes something analagous to this:
> 
> if [ -e $PREFIX/Apps ]; then
>   ln -sf $PREFIX/Games/* $NEWPREFIX/Games/
> fi
> 
> What kind of unintended consequences would I potentially run into doing
> something like this? I can see one, that being uninstalled apps won't
> have their menu entries removed automatically.
> 
> Suggestions?

Anyone? Anyone? Ferris?
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RE: problem starting kde

[Timothy Jones]

I had to switch to USB mice/keyboards because my one of my cats pulled my
PS/2 connections out so hard that the sockets were loosened, and no longer
work.  

When I first tried a USB mouse with Linux, I ran into this problem, and the
solution was to load a bewildering number (five?) of kernel modules.  I
won't pretend to understand why there are so many, and it doesn't seem to
matter what order to load them (other than kernel object-file dependencies),
but here's what I have currently loaded:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mon Jul 15 11:47):/home/tim$ sudo lsmod
Module  Size  Used byTainted: PF 
loop8336   3  (autoclean)
mousedev3904   1 
usbmouse1792   0  (unused)
usb-uhci   21860   0  (unused)
input   3168   0  [mousedev usbmouse]
usbcore28832   0  [usbmouse usb-uhci]

On my work machine (nearly identical, except that my PS/2 ports are not
damaged), I found I was able to use both a PS/2 and a USB mouse in the same
X session (multiple InputDevice sections in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, one for
/dev/psaux and another for /dev/input/mice).  One is a wheel mouse, and the
other is a plain-3 button.  I don't like the way the wheel feels when you
try to use it as a middle button, so I do switch off sometimes.

Tim

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To: Eric Aumont
Cc: debian-kde
Subject: Re: problem starting kde


On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Eric Aumont wrote:

> (EE) xf860OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
>   No such file or directory.

Either you have the wrong permissions on /dev/input/mice (I guess not
that would give you a different error message), or you don't have the
driver for it in the kernel, or you don't have the module loaded
that provides the driver.

Have a look at your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, look at the Mouse section and
put /dev/psaux there.

I guess,
*t


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Re: problem starting kde

[Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists]

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Eric Aumont wrote:

> (EE) xf860OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
>   No such file or directory.

Either you have the wrong permissions on /dev/input/mice (I guess not
that would give you a different error message), or you don't have the
driver for it in the kernel, or you don't have the module loaded
that provides the driver.

Have a look at your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, look at the Mouse section and
put /dev/psaux there.

I guess,
*t


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patch for wine to compile against new libarts

[Tomasz Wegrzanowski]

Because wine in debian depends on kde2 (libarts, libarts-dev) i think
that wine compiled against kde3 (libarts1, libarts1-dev) should be put
along with the rest of kde3 on unofficial kde3 .debs repository.

Here is the patch that allows that.

I didn't check if sound works :)
Just that it compiles, installs and works in general.

(wine maintainer in cc)
--- control.origMon Jul 15 15:36:03 2002
+++ control Mon Jul 15 14:10:19 2002
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
 Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 3.0), docbook-utils | cygnus-stylesheets,
  c2man, flex, bison, xlibs-dev | xlib6g-dev, libxpm4-dev | xpm4g-dev,
  xlibmesa-dev | libgl-dev, libncurses5-dev, libcupsys2-dev | cupsys-dev,
- libjpeg-dev, libfreetype6-dev | xlib6g-dev (<< 4.0), libarts-dev,
+ libjpeg-dev, libfreetype6-dev | xlib6g-dev (<< 4.0), libarts-dev | 
libarts1-dev,
  libsane-dev, libusb-dev, libperl-dev
 Standards-Version: 3.5.6
 

blank screen on kde from cvs

[Wendy Rayner]

Hello,
On woody, i built kde from cvs, however all i see is a blank screen on start.
I followed the instructions on kde.org on installing 2 versions of kde:
set .bash_profile as:
KDEDIR=/usr/local/kdecvs
QTDIR=/usr/local/qt
KDEHOME=~/.kdecvs
PATH=$PATH:$KDEDIR/bin:$QTDIR/bin
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$KDEDIR/lib:$QTDIR/lib
export KDEDIR QTDIR KDEHOME PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH MANPATH
-
and put starkde in .xinitrc

The end part on the output from X is as follows:

(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse1" (type: MOUSE)
Could not init font path element unix/:-1, removing from list!
QObject::connect: No such slot QObject::newClient(int)
QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'unnamed')
QObject::connect: No such slot QObject::slotTerminate()
QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'unnamed')
QObject::connect: No such slot QObject::slotCleanDeadConnections()
QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'unnamed')
xinit:  connection to X server lost. 

i'm using qt-3.0.4
(I deleted all the .DCOP* stuff and /tmp stuff before starting X)

any ideas ?
thanks, Andy


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Re: KDE 3.1

[David Pashley]

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On Monday 15 July 2002 11:09 am, Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
> måndagen den 15 juli 2002 10.49 skrev David Pashley:
> > Bit of a waste of effort there as the packages are being kept up to date
> > in CVS. The builds may break, but I know that arts, kdelibs and kdebase
> > did work last week.
>
> Let's have a look in the CVS updated today:
>
> for f in /q/cvs/kde3/*/debian/changelog; do head -1 $f; done
> arts (1.1.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
> kde3-i18n (3.0-0.alpha1-1) unstable; urgency=low
> kdeaddons (3.0.9-1) unstable; urgency=low
> kdeadmin (4:3.0.5-1) unstable; urgency=low
> kdeartwork (3.0.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
> kdebase (4:3.0.6-1) unstable; urgency=low
> kdebindings (2.1-final-1) unstable; urgency=low
> kdeedu (3.0.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
> kdegames (4:3.0.0-0rc4-1) experimental; urgency=low
> kdegraphics (4:3.0.5-1) unstable; urgency=low
> kdelibs (4:3.0.6-1) unstable; urgency=low
> kdemultimedia (4:3.0.6-1) unstable; urgency=low
> kdenetwork (4:3.0.9-0) unstable; urgency=low
> kdepim (4:2.9.9+cvs.20020110-1) unstable; urgency=low
> kdesdk (3.0.2-2) unstable; urgency=low
> kdetoys (4:3.0.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
> kdeutils (4:3.0.9-1) unstable; urgency=low
> koffice (1:1.2-beta2-1) unstable; urgency=low
> qt-copy (2:3.0.3-20020329-5) unstable; urgency=low
>
> It does not look very updated to me:
> kdelibs, kdebase, kdemultimedia are at version 3.0.6

Up to date. In fact kdelibs has just been updated by me and kdebase will 
follow shortly.

> kdeaddons, kdenetwork, kdeutils are at version 3.0.9

I think these are a couple of weeks old.

> kdeadmin is at version 3.0.5

This is probably a week or 2 old

> kdeartwork, kdeedu, kdesdk, kdetoys are at version 3.0.2

These are Ben Burtons packages

> kde-i18n is at version 3.0.0.alpha1

i18n is a law unto itself

> kdegames is at version 3.0.0 rc4

I think that is also one of Bens. I'd need to check

> kdepim is at version 2.9.9
> koffice is actually at current level, 1.2 beta 2
>

This should be reasonalby current.

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Re: KDE 3.1

[Karolina Lindqvist]

måndagen den 15 juli 2002 10.49 skrev David Pashley:

> Bit of a waste of effort there as the packages are being kept up to date in
> CVS. The builds may break, but I know that arts, kdelibs and kdebase did
> work last week.

Let's have a look in the CVS updated today:

for f in /q/cvs/kde3/*/debian/changelog; do head -1 $f; done
arts (1.1.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
kde3-i18n (3.0-0.alpha1-1) unstable; urgency=low
kdeaddons (3.0.9-1) unstable; urgency=low
kdeadmin (4:3.0.5-1) unstable; urgency=low
kdeartwork (3.0.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
kdebase (4:3.0.6-1) unstable; urgency=low
kdebindings (2.1-final-1) unstable; urgency=low
kdeedu (3.0.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
kdegames (4:3.0.0-0rc4-1) experimental; urgency=low
kdegraphics (4:3.0.5-1) unstable; urgency=low
kdelibs (4:3.0.6-1) unstable; urgency=low
kdemultimedia (4:3.0.6-1) unstable; urgency=low
kdenetwork (4:3.0.9-0) unstable; urgency=low
kdepim (4:2.9.9+cvs.20020110-1) unstable; urgency=low
kdesdk (3.0.2-2) unstable; urgency=low
kdetoys (4:3.0.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
kdeutils (4:3.0.9-1) unstable; urgency=low
koffice (1:1.2-beta2-1) unstable; urgency=low
qt-copy (2:3.0.3-20020329-5) unstable; urgency=low

It does not look very updated to me:
kdelibs, kdebase, kdemultimedia are at version 3.0.6
kdeaddons, kdenetwork, kdeutils are at version 3.0.9
kdeadmin is at version 3.0.5
kdeartwork, kdeedu, kdesdk, kdetoys are at version 3.0.2
kde-i18n is at version 3.0.0.alpha1
kdegames is at version 3.0.0 rc4
kdepim is at version 2.9.9
koffice is actually at current level, 1.2 beta 2

-- Karolina





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Re: KDE 3.1

[David Pashley]

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On Saturday 13 July 2002 5:51 am, Karolina Lindqvist wrote:
> lördagen den 13 juli 2002 00.54 skrev David Bishop:
> > Well (and maybe this is what Jon meant) is anyone planning on packaging
> > up the beta releases? I don't think anyone should bother with the alphas
> > (too much of a moving target), but at least with Ivan, there was a
> > tradition of putting the last few betas and release canidates through
> > sid, or up on people.debian.org.  Obviously, as I'm not volunteering to
> > do the packaging and maintainence myself, this is a simple query, not a
> > demand :-)
>
> After the long wait and all the trouble, instead of wining I keep my own
> packaging for debian and have everything for 3.1 alpha packaged. Not to the
> same high standard as the real packaging, but in a working condition. I am
> running 3.1 alpha since about a week, and it appears to work pretty good
> now.
>
> I try to keep the same packaging as the real stuff, even if that is a
> moving target, but have a sligthly different way of doing it, since I often
> incrementally rebuild from new cvs updates, and I also have a system that
> catch changes
>
> And then I also found in the past that building kde on my own system is so
> much more stable than the general builds.  Particularly after all the
> problems this spring. I also get the latest KDE patches incorporated when
> they come.
>
> -- Karolina

Bit of a waste of effort there as the packages are being kept up to date in 
CVS. The builds may break, but I know that arts, kdelibs and kdebase did work 
last week.

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kdelibs 3.0.2 problem & a request

[Scott Zuk]

I'm using Chris's KDE 3.0.2 debs and am having problems relating to kdelibs 
and KDE's use of IPV6.  

Currently, whenever a KDE application uses dns to lookup a host's address, it 
sends a dns request for an IPV6 address and if one doesn't exist, the 
application sends another dns request asking for a regular IPV4 address.  
Since my ISP (and most others) don't support IPV6, the first dns request 
always fails and KDE always falls back to sending an IPV4 request.  This 
creates more network traffic than necessary but shouldn't really cause any 
problems.  

Unfortuneately, I've noticed that my ISP (and probably others) has problems 
handling some IPV6 dns requests causing KDE apps to wait for up to 20 seconds 
before timing out and resending an IPV4 dns request.  This causes some 
websites to take an extremely long time to load.  For example, if I use 
ethereal to monitor network traffic and use konqueror to visit 
"http://www.canada.com/"; I can see each IPV6 dns request for the adserver 
"ad.ca.doubleclick.net" timing out.  Since I have 3 dns servers in my 
/etc/resolv.conf it can take 15-20 secs for konqueror to give up and try 
using an IPV4 dns request.  Then I get a reply immediately and the page 
continues to load as normal.

KDE bug reports #29411 and #28466 indicate that the IPV6 behavior can be 
changed by compiling kdelibs with the --with-ipv6-lookup=[yes,auto,no] 
option.  Since I'm using a custom linux 2.4.18 kernel with absolutely no IPV6 
support, I'm assuming that the current KDE 3.0.2 packages are compiled using 
--with-ipv6-lookup=yes.  I never had problems with the KDE 2.2.2 packages so 
they probably used --with-ipv6-lookup=[auto,no].  Is this correct?

Since I don't have a hope in hell of getting my ISP to fix their dns I'd like 
to request that the next release of kde packages be compiled using 
--with-ipv6-lookup=no or assuming it works --with-ipv6-lookup=auto.  I 
understand that this is really a dns issue but it seems so inefficient to 
always use IPV6 even when it is unsupported.  Could this please be changed 
for the upcoming kde 3.1 packages or even the current 3.0.2 packages?  I'm 
using Mozilla for browsing since it doesn't have this problem but it doesn't 
help for all the other kde apps that access the internet.


~Scott
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