kdm sourcing .bash_profile?
I know I've seen this discussed before but I couldn't find it in the archives. I have these lines in my .bash_profile: if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then PATH=~/bin:${PATH} fi When I login on the console it behaves as expected. However, when I login using kdm I don't get ~/bin in my path. What was the prevailing opinion on how to solve this? Saadiq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KFontinstaler crashes
Hi! Any of you have tried to configure antialiased fonts to exlude a size range?, for example exclude from 8 to 12, when I click Save changes KControl crashes, althow I get the following line written in ~/.xftconfig: match any size 8 any size 15 edit antialias = Nil; But ALL fonts are antialiased, and small fonts shouldn't be! I am using KDE 3.0.2 and SID Many thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KFontinstaler crashes
match any size 8 any size 15 edit antialias = Nil; Hmm.. On my computer it reads antialias = false and works. Try it it works for you. If it does, this is probably an easily fixable bug in the font installer. - Jarno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE 3 problems
I have just installed KDE3 from kde3.geniussystems.net. All is fine except for 2 problems. One I don't have a desktop window (no wallpaper, icons or right clicks). And secondly no konqueror is this not part of the main packages or can I find it else where. Any ideas ? Cheers, -- Nic [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE3 and KDE2 side by side
Am Donnerstag, 25. Juli 2002 14:51 schrieb Nikita V. Youshchenko: [...] Seems that the only way to make KDE2 and KDE3 coexist is to compile one of them from source, with KDEDIR set to somewhere away from /usr. Hi, is there anybody who is planning to work on an unofficial deb-package of KDE 3.1 that could be set to /opt or something similar, to avoid conflicts with KDE 2.x ? I heard about hours of compilingtime and other complications to compile kde from source. TIA ciao gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
configure error on debian woody kde 2.2.2
Hi all, I'm a debian 3.0 woody user and cannot install kpovmodeler. I receive the following error from the configure-script: checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix! How can I fix this ? What kind of prefix do I have to set ? whereis kde kde: /usr/include/kde KDEDIR=/usr/include/kde export KDEDIR Doesn't work neither google finds nothing There is no debian packet: debian:/home/gerhard/download/kpovmodeler/kpovmodeler-0.1.1# apt-cache search kpovmodeler debian:/home/gerhard/download/kpovmodeler/kpovmodeler-0.1.1# Are there unofficial debian-packets ? TIA ciao gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configure error on debian woody kde 2.2.2
On Sat 27 Jul 2002 17:01, gerhard wrote: Hi all, I'm a debian 3.0 woody user and cannot install kpovmodeler. I receive the following error from the configure-script: checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix! How can I fix this ? What kind of prefix do I have to set ? whereis kde kde: /usr/include/kde KDEDIR=/usr/include/kde export KDEDIR Doesn't work neither You need to install the kde-devel packages at least, to start. KDE by itself does not include the headers needed to compile KDE projects. You will probably need other development packages as well. I'm not sure what te kde-devel package will include. google finds nothing There is no debian packet: debian:/home/gerhard/download/kpovmodeler/kpovmodeler-0.1.1# apt-cache search kpovmodeler debian:/home/gerhard/download/kpovmodeler/kpovmodeler-0.1.1# Are there unofficial debian-packets ? TIA ciao gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configure error on debian woody kde 2.2.2
Am Samstag, 27. Juli 2002 18:01 schrieb gerhard: Hi all, I'm a debian 3.0 woody user and cannot install kpovmodeler. I receive the following error from the configure-script: checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. [...] Sorry: After apt-get install kde-devel ./configure can find the kde-headers now, but not the OpenGL headers, although libqt2 libqt-dev are the newest packets of my installation. error: checking for the Qt OpenGL extension... no configure: error: your system is not able to compile an application that uses the Qt OpenGL extension! Make sure the OpenGL headers are installed and Qt is compiled with OpenGL support to compile kpovmodeler. See the file REQUIREMENTS for further information. debian:/home/gerhard/download/kpovmodeler/kpovmodeler-0.1.1# apt-get -t unstable -u install libqt2 libqt-dev Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, libqt2 is already the newest version. Sorry, libqt-dev is already the newest version. debian:/home/gerhard/download/kpovmodeler/kpovmodeler-0.1.1# apt-cache search OpenGL glut glu glx libopengl-perl - Perl module to display 3D data using OpenGL, GLU, GLUT, and GLX debian:/home/gerhard/download/kpovmodeler/kpovmodeler-0.1.1# apt-get install libopengl-perl Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, libopengl-perl is already the newest version. How can I resolve the requirements of kpovmodeler? What are the libs and dev packets of OpenGL I'll need to compile it properly? Requirements for KPovModeler The program requires: - KDE-2.1.x with header files - Qt-2.3.x with header files - OpenGL, glut, glu, glx libraries and header files - The Qt OpenGL extension. I don't know the needed packets of OpenGL/qt, and apt-cache shows a bunch of hits, but which one fit's? Any clues? TIA gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF wont print with Kghostview
On Friday 26 July 2002 11:56 am, Jason Boxman wrote: On Friday 26 July 2002 12:42 pm, Robert wrote: I'm running the most recent testing, I can still print via CUPS and KDE. In the past, I've had it fail to print for no obvious reason. Going into CUPS' Web admin tool, removing, then readding the printer somehow resolved the problem. I readded it exactly as it existed previously. I can't explain it. Well, if cups has had a component filter down from unstable since I did what I think was an accidental upgrade, and you don't do a lot of printing, you might not have noticed the outage. But maybe I'm just smokin' something. Anyway, a delete and re-addition of my printers worked. Since I started with a purged cups friends, then re-installed and copied over the old /etc/cups files, the most recent reason for failure was the lack of the Canon file in /lib/blah... Recreating the printers fixed it. Maybe those files are getting removed on a semi-random basis somehow... -- Your true value depends entirely on what you are compared with. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configure error on debian woody kde 2.2.2
Am Samstag, 27. Juli 2002 19:17 schrieb gerhard: Sorry: After apt-get install kde-devel ./configure can find the kde-headers now, but not the OpenGL headers, although libqt2 libqt-dev are the newest packets of my installation. AUTO-INSTALL MISSING LIBRARIES/HEADERS: --- Install auto-apt: apt-get install auto-apt Update the auto-apt database: auto-apt update ; auto-apt updatedb ; auto-apt update-local Go to your Source directory and execute: auto-apt run ./configure or to build a debian package, run (in the source directory) deb-make (package debmake, if you don't have it) and auto-apt run debian/rules binary If configure tries to access any file you don't have on your system, but which is available in the repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list, you will be prompted if you want to install that package. This is not longer really kde-specific (merely generic package compilation), so please ask further questions on more generic mailing lists. References: - http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-search.en.html#s-auto-apt - the file INSTALL in nearly any source package -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE3 in sid update
On Tue 23 Jul 2002 14:23, Nicolai P Guba wrote: On Tuesday 23 July 2002 1:17 pm, Chris Cheney wrote: On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 12:56:15AM +0100, Nicolai P Guba wrote: -snip- I don't understand. What has gcc 3.0.1 to do with it. It's not even in unstable and I have been running it for years now. In fact, this one right here is 3.0.2 compiled with The original post was a typo, it was supposed to read 3.1.0, however 3.1.0 was buggy and it appears 3.2 will probably be the one debian switches to. GCC 3.2 should be released today, but I do not know how long it will take to switch to it. Ah! Indeed, I first tried getting it going with gcc-3.1 and I had no joy. Compiled alright but dcop didn't like it at all! Maybe I've got more luck with gcc 3.2. I'll definitively give it a whirl ;) So what are the known working versions of GCC for compiling KDE3 with? I am looking to try my hand at building a Pentium-optimised box from scratch. lfs uses GCC2.95.5 but Debian provides both GCC2.95.5 and GCC3? I've also looked into PGCC, but the latest patches they have are for GCC2.95.3 and the site seems to be un-maintained. Cheers, John Gay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configure error on debian woody kde 2.2.2
On Sat 27 Jul 2002 18:17, gerhard wrote: Am Samstag, 27. Juli 2002 18:01 schrieb gerhard: Hi all, I'm a debian 3.0 woody user and cannot install kpovmodeler. I receive the following error from the configure-script: checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. [...] Sorry: After apt-get install kde-devel ./configure can find the kde-headers now, but not the OpenGL headers, although libqt2 libqt-dev are the newest packets of my installation. error: checking for the Qt OpenGL extension... no configure: error: your system is not able to compile an application that uses the Qt OpenGL extension! Make sure the OpenGL headers are installed and Qt is compiled with OpenGL support to compile kpovmodeler. See the file REQUIREMENTS for further information. debian:/home/gerhard/download/kpovmodeler/kpovmodeler-0.1.1# apt-get -t unstable -u install libqt2 libqt-dev Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, libqt2 is already the newest version. Sorry, libqt-dev is already the newest version. debian:/home/gerhard/download/kpovmodeler/kpovmodeler-0.1.1# apt-cache search OpenGL glut glu glx libopengl-perl - Perl module to display 3D data using OpenGL, GLU, GLUT, and GLX debian:/home/gerhard/download/kpovmodeler/kpovmodeler-0.1.1# apt-get install libopengl-perl Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, libopengl-perl is already the newest version. How can I resolve the requirements of kpovmodeler? What are the libs and dev packets of OpenGL I'll need to compile it properly? I can't speak for KPovModeler, but OpenGL is provided by Mesa on Linux. OpenGL is NOT free, but Mesa is supported by OpenGL and provides the same API's and development stuff. Have a look for Mesa and install that. After that, any other requirements for KPovModeler have to be found from the KPovModeler sources, and I don't understand C++ enough to begin to tell you where to look. The ./configure errors should give you clues as to what else is missing though. Requirements for KPovModeler The program requires: - KDE-2.1.x with header files - Qt-2.3.x with header files - OpenGL, glut, glu, glx libraries and header files - The Qt OpenGL extension. I don't know the needed packets of OpenGL/qt, and apt-cache shows a bunch of hits, but which one fit's? Any clues? TIA gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PRoblems with koofice in kde3
Hi I tryed to install the koofice but I have any problems with dependecies, the better problem for install this package it's in the kdelibs3 ... if exist any solution for install this package with kde3 please send me an email !! I haven't install the kdelibs3 because this a old package for kde2 but more packages for kde3 have depencencies with kdelib3 Ufff Thks for all , -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PRoblems with koofice in kde3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 July 2002 19:34, Pau Freixes wrote: Hi I tryed to install the koofice but I have any problems with dependecies, the better problem for install this package it's in the kdelibs3 ... if exist any solution for install this package with kde3 please send me an email !! Make sure you have the following line in your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3 ./ Then run apt-get update apt-get install koffice The koffice.in the Debian archives is for KDE2. The packages at the above URI are compiled for KDE3. Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9Qup/IzuKV+SHX/kRAvq3AJ9lqk/4ZWJIPnNu+udoFrSsS1GRVgCfS4LK 4PZ4vs+ovIIXV2/Ou9bUtJ4= =e5+a -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3 problems
On Saturday 27 July 08:28, Nic Strong wrote: I have just installed KDE3 from kde3.geniussystems.net. All is fine except for 2 problems. One I don't have a desktop window (no wallpaper, icons or right clicks). And secondly no konqueror is this not part of the main packages or can I find it else where. Any ideas ? Cheers, Sounds llike kwin is not running. Did you install the kwin package? If so try starting it with kwin. Konqueror is in a seperate package called (ready for this) konqueror. Did you install it? all the best, Robert_L -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: slooooooow
On Sat 27 Jul 2002 21:59, Frank Van Damme wrote: Yow Just put my hd (maxtor 40 gigs 5400 rpm for therecord - that's also the one I swap to) into a p133 (48 MB ram) because my athlon cpu burnt. This is your problem ^^^ KDE requires quite a large amount of memory to run. If you consider that X takes at least 16M to itself that does not leave much for KDE to use. My daughter is running KDE2.1 on a 166PentiumMMX with 64M and get 'useable' performance from it. I would not even like to try running KDE in less than 64M. I just couldn't believe my eyes. I thought kde got faster with 3.0, at least that's what the kde guys promised us. Some stats, taken on my system running enlightenment 0.16, xfree86 4.2 and a minimum of background tasks Here is another ^^^ problem. Enlightenment is very resource intensive as well. Maybe even more so than KDE proper. Mixing this WITH KDE apps on a memory-starved box is jsut asking for problems. Are you sure you don't work for that group that 'proved' M$ ran faster than Linux by patching M$ for performance and disabling every feature on Linux? like cups and 2 Eterms: - opening a new message window in kmail: 10 seconds - starting konqueror: about 5 minutes - starting kmail: must be over 2 minutes. - selecting an other message in this mailing list (800 messages): about 2 secs - scrolling through theheader pane: an estimated 3 fps - starting the stupidest program on earth, ksnapshot: 25 secs - average cpu usage reading emails: 80%. - megs of swap mem used: 50. Just *unbearable*. I have yet to start thinking about what running a fullblown kde session on this box will do. I remember having 7 apps like kword, xmms, kmail,... open at the same time and still enjoying it. Ok kmail was never fast but can anyone recommend me a good DE or compiler please :-) First things first. Get some more memory. This generation of box should be able to handle at least 64M without complaining. I know that's easier said than done, but memory is the key to speed. Without enough memory even a P4 will run like a dog. For alt. Desktops, XFCE is extremely light-weight, very configurable and drag-N-drop aware. If you've never seen CDE before it might take a little getting used to, but getting rid of Enlightenment and using XFCE instead will give enormous improvement. Once you've got the QT and KDE libs, most of your KDE apps should still work, though XFCE is NOT KDE aware, what ever that means any more. If you want to go the self-compiled route I can tell you, from experience QTlibs took over 48 Hours to build on a 200Mhz PentiumMMX with a similar amount of memory. KDE libs take even longer. Again, memory is the key here. GCC tries to use large hash tables in memory to reduce I/O. However, if you are still willing to spend upto a week 'round the clock' there are many object pre-linking optimizations that can be used with QT and KDE, though they can be dodgy. They have been known to just not work on certain hardware, so you might end up spending a week compiling something that will not even run. YMMV. Hope this expains a few things for you. Cheers, John Gay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: slooooooow
Give a try to IceWM is good looking, *very* fast and user frendly. It was usable in my old 486 with 24 RAM box Any way KDE rocks! Good luck Hirs Frank Van Damme wrote: Yow Just put my hd (maxtor 40 gigs 5400 rpm for therecord - that's also the one I swap to) into a p133 (48 MB ram) because my athlon cpu burnt. I just couldn't believe my eyes. I thought kde got faster with 3.0, at least that's what the kde guys promised us. Some stats, taken on my system running enlightenment 0.16, xfree86 4.2 and a minimum of background tasks like cups and 2 Eterms: - opening a new message window in kmail: 10 seconds - starting konqueror: about 5 minutes - starting kmail: must be over 2 minutes. - selecting an other message in this mailing list (800 messages): about 2 secs - scrolling through theheader pane: an estimated 3 fps - starting the stupidest program on earth, ksnapshot: 25 secs - average cpu usage reading emails: 80%. - megs of swap mem used: 50. Just *unbearable*. I have yet to start thinking about what running a fullblown kde session on this box will do. I remember having 7 apps like kword, xmms, kmail,... open at the same time and still enjoying it. Ok kmail was never fast but can anyone recommend me a good DE or compiler please :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configure error on debian woody kde 2.2.2
Am Samstag, 27. Juli 2002 19:33 schrieb Thomas Ritter: Am Samstag, 27. Juli 2002 19:17 schrieb gerhard: Sorry: After apt-get install kde-devel ./configure can find the kde-headers now, but not the OpenGL headers, although libqt2 libqt-dev are the newest packets of my installation. AUTO-INSTALL MISSING LIBRARIES/HEADERS: --- Install auto-apt: apt-get install auto-apt Update the auto-apt database: auto-apt update ; auto-apt updatedb ; auto-apt update-local Go to your Source directory and execute: auto-apt run ./configure or to build a debian package, run (in the source directory) deb-make (package debmake, if you don't have it) and auto-apt run debian/rules binary If configure tries to access any file you don't have on your system, but which is available in the repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list, you will be prompted if you want to install that package. [...] Thank you Thomas, but unfortunateley I got the same error message without prompting for any package to install at this point (before that point, auto-apt asked me to install some packages, who have been installed after confirmation without any problems - great experience: this little tool called 'auto-apt'. Thanx for the hint) The error message: checking for GL/gl.h... yes checking for GL/glu.h... yes checking for GL/glut.h... yes checking for GL/glx.h... yes checking for the Qt OpenGL extension... no configure: error: your system is not able to compile an application that uses the Qt OpenGL extension! Make sure the OpenGL headers are installed and Qt is compiled with OpenGL support to compile kpovmodeler. See the file REQUIREMENTS for further information. debian:/home/gerhard/download/kpovmodeler/kpovmodeler-0.1.1# tail config.log configure:8011: checking for the Qt OpenGL extension configure:8040: /bin/sh ./libtool --silent --mode=link g++ -o conftest -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -I/usr/local/kde/include -I/usr/include/qt -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/lib conftest.C -lkdecore -lqt -lpng -lz -lm -ljpeg -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -ldnet 15 /tmp/cct5txLt.o: In function `main': /tmp/cct5txLt.o(.text+0x23): undefined reference to `QGLWidget::QGLWidget(QWidget *, char const *, QGLWidget const *, unsigned int)' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Andreas Zehnder wrote: 2) If there are linker errors undefined reference to QGLWidget::* then you have all headers installed, but your Qt version comes without the OpenGL extension. Either you have to recompile Qt or update your KDE and Qt version and download KPovModeler 0.2. The 0.2 version does not require the extension. I got beside other packets the these packages installed: glutg3-dev nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-dev x-window-system x-window-system-core xlibmesa-dev xlibmesa3 What Kind of Qt version in debian supports the OpenGL extension? I don't want to update now to KDE 3.1alpha to install KPovModeler 0.2 What is the right mailinglist to ask further Question? TIA gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configure error on debian woody kde 2.2.2
On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 02:35:44AM +0200, gerhard wrote: What Kind of Qt version in debian supports the OpenGL extension? I don't want to update now to KDE 3.1alpha to install KPovModeler 0.2 I would suggest you also install the libqt-gl-dev package. A good way to ensure you have all the dependancies installed is to use apt-get build-dep # apt-get build-dep libqt-gl-dev Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: libpng-dev libqt3-dev libqt3-mt-dev The following NEW packages will be installed: binutils-dev byacc libpng2-dev xlibmesa-dev 0 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 3 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 1163kB of archives. After unpacking 26.1MB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configure error on debian woody kde 2.2.2
Hi Mark, Am Sonntag, 28. Juli 2002 03:23 schrieb Mark Purcell: libqt-gl-dev Thank you for the proposal to use the apt-get option build-dep debian:/home/gerhard/download/kpovmodeler/kpovmodeler-0.1.1# apt-get build-dep libqt-gl-dev Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: byacc 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded. 3 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 30.8kB of archives. After unpacking 147kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Unfortunately I got no success :( debian:/home/gerhard/download/kpovmodeler/kpovmodeler-0.1.1# tail config.log [...] configure:8011: checking for the Qt OpenGL extension configure:8040: /bin/sh ./libtool --silent --mode=link g++ -o conftest -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -I/usr/local/kde/include -I/usr/include/qt -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/lib conftest.C -lkdecore -lqt -lpng -lz -lm -ljpeg -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -ldnet 15 /tmp/ccks0tEV.o: In function `main': /tmp/ccks0tEV.o(.text+0x23): undefined reference to `QGLWidget::QGLWidget(QWidget *, char const *, QGLWidget const *, unsigned int)' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status ciao gerhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]