Re: KDE 3 problems

2002-07-28 Thread Nic Strong
On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 23:39, Robert wrote:
 On Sunday 28 July 05:44, you wrote:
 
  Have kwin running:
 
  ps -ef | grep kwin
  nic489   457  0 Jul27 ?00:00:05 kdeinit: kwin -session
  117f010001005939339
 
  konqueror shows up in dpkg as follows:
 
   rc  konqueror  2.2.2-14   KDE's advanced File Manager,
  Web Browser and Documen
 
  I didn't install it as it is version 2.2.2. Is this a pinning problem ?
 
  Nic
 
 Ah, you're installing on Woody.  I don't know about this as I'm using Sid 
 and haven't tried installing it on Woody.  (http://calc.cx/kde.txt seems 
 pretty clear Chris intends the packages for Sid, but what do I know?)
 
 However, if you have kde3.geniussystems.net in your sources.list and pinning 
 set up properly, it should install.  Especially since you appear to have 
 installed arts, kdelibs* and kdebase* sucessfully.  If all else fails, 
 download what you want manually and install with dpkg.
 
 There are quite a few :
 dpkg -l|grep 3.0.2-0|egrep 'nl
 shows 110 KDE packages installed, and that's not including a half dozen 
 1.0.2-0 arts packages.
 
 
 What that should be for specifically tracking KDE3 and only that when 
 running Woody,  and what is required I don't know. 
 
  You would be better off reposting this thread to the list, where far more 
 experienced than I dwell.  ;)
 
 all the best,
 Robert_L

My mistake Robert was meant to cross post to the list as well.

I am already running sid...so not sure what is up ??? dpkg actually
showed 152 3.0.2-0 packages installed.
I think I will take your advice and try installing the missing bits from
debs.

Thanks,

-- 
Nic [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: KDE3 and KDE2 side by side

2002-07-28 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Nicolai P Guba wrote:

 This would not be that much of a problem if dpkg would support different
 install root directories, maybe something like

   dpkg --prefix=/opt/kde/3.0.2  -i ...

 Am I barfing up the wrong tree here?

Such a feature would be _VERY appreciated. If you find out
how to do that - please do post it. But I guess it's not as easy as that,
it might need patching dpkg. If you want to go on such a quest then it'd
be best to start at bugs.debian.org/dpkg. I'm certain there is allready
such a wishlist. And then just go implementing it and begging on your
knes the dpkg maintainers to apply your patch...

This is all just guesswork.
*t


 Tomas Pospisek
 SourcePole   -  Linux  Open Source Solutions
 http://sourcepole.ch
 Elestastrasse 18, 7310 Bad Ragaz, Switzerland
 Tel: +41 (81) 330 77 11



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: KFontinstaler crashes

2002-07-28 Thread Jarno Elonen
 Any of you have tried to configure antialiased fonts to exlude a size
 range?, for example exclude from 8 to 12, when I click Save changes
 KControl crashes, althow I get the following line written in ~/.xftconfig:

 match any size  8 any size  15 edit antialias = Nil;

 But ALL fonts are antialiased, and small fonts shouldn't be!

This turned out to be known KDE bug #44411 that can worked around by manually 
replacing Nil with false.

- Jarno


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: KDE3 and KDE2 side by side

2002-07-28 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, gerhard wrote:

 Is there a point to discuss the way how kde is packaged at this
 time? Or are we wrong with our thinking about that issue?
 If not: Is there someone who intend to work on that kind of
 packaging KDE?
 If so: Is the only way to do that, compile kde from the branch and
 using chroot (I don't know enough on these things, probably I'm
 wrong with my interjection).

You can use pbuilder to have a separate building environment that doesn't
interfere with yours. Im runing parts of kde3 from a user mode linux
partition parallel to kde2. It works but it's ugly and a pain.
*t

 Am Samstag, 27. Juli 2002 16:00 schrieb Nicolai P Guba:
  On Saturday 27 July 2002 2:17 pm, Gerhard Gaussling wrote:
   [...]
   is there anybody who is planning to work on an unofficial
   deb-package of KDE 3.1 that could be set to /opt or something
   similar, to avoid conflicts with KDE 2.x ? I heard about hours
   of compilingtime and other complications to compile kde from
   source.


 Tomas Pospisek
 SourcePole   -  Linux  Open Source Solutions
 http://sourcepole.ch
 Elestastrasse 18, 7310 Bad Ragaz, Switzerland
 Tel: +41 (81) 330 77 11



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: KDE3 and KDE2 side by side

2002-07-28 Thread Nicolai P Guba
On Sunday 28 July 2002 12:09 pm, gerhard wrote:
 Hi All,

 Is there a point to discuss the way how kde is packaged at this
 time? Or are we wrong with our thinking about that issue?

From my point of view it is never the wrong time thinking about how things 
could be improved ;)

 If not: Is there someone who intend to work on that kind of
 packaging KDE?

Depends.  Maybe this is more related to the packaging policy?  There are quite 
a few possible mechanisms that would support this kind of functionality.  See 
the various versions of gcc co-existing with each other.  It's a lot of 
patching and work prefixing each binary with the version number.  Doing this 
on a directory level is better from my point of view.

But maybe there is something more general about the Debian packaging policy 
that needs discussing?  Should such substantial projects like kde or gnome 
(sorry if I missed out on _your_ project here ;) really be packaged in such a 
rigid manner?  Often one needs to go back a version, or use a different one 
because a crucial feature has been broken in the new release.  I've 
encountered that scenario multiple fold.

In the particular case of kde3 (even if some parts are alpha) it would be very 
useful if test packages could co-exist with the stable and well-tested 
version.  It would also (hopefully) reduce the risk of 3rd party packages 
(like the unofficial debian kde3 debs) causing mayhem on the system.

I don't mind starting to work on this, but before I get my sleeves up I would 
prefer having a good picture of all the issues.

It's encouraging to know that a feature such as --prefix to dpkg would be 
appreciated... just not quite sure whether begging is my forte \grin{}

BTW I've got other gripes with dpkg.  Like the abscence of indexes.  Being 
able to query which packages are in a logical group (ie dpkg -l -g editors, 
listing all packages that belong to the editors group for eg).  The current 
partitioning scheme is way too general for the number of packages debian 
handles nowadays.  (Was ok in the early days).  

Still, the debian packaging system is still the best around IMO.  



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Woody

2002-07-28 Thread Richard Ibbotson
Hi

I know this one has been asked before but I couldn't find a reference 
to it in my Debian mail folders.

I've just installed Woody into my notebook and it seems to be working 
fine.  Only thing that I want to change is that I'd like to apt-get 
upgrade to KDE 3.  Can anyone explain the line to put into /etc/apt 
so that my notebook can just pull the stuff off the net and install 
it.

-- 
Thanks



Richard


www.sheflug.co.uk


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Debian kpovmodeler (was: configure error on debian woody kde 2.2.2)

2002-07-28 Thread John Gay
On Sun 28 Jul 2002 12:26, Mark Purcell wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Gerhard,


 Or I have put together a quick and dirty .deb for the KDE3 version at
 http://people.debian.org/~msp/.  If there is enough interested I could tidy
 it up and install into the main archive for you (once KDE3 hits sid of
 course).

I would certainly be interested in KPovModeler for KDE3 once it hits sid. I 
considered trying my hand at debing it, but Chris explained the compatibility 
problems and I got involved in trying Linux From Scratch instead. I am hoping 
to build a PentiumMMX optimized system including XFree86-cvs and KDE3 jsut to 
see how much performance I can squeeze.

So, put me donw as very interested in seeing KPovModeler supported in Debian 
in the near future!

 Mark

Cheers,

John Gay


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Woody

2002-07-28 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Sunday 28 July 2002 16:19, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
 Hi

 I know this one has been asked before but I couldn't find a reference
 to it in my Debian mail folders.

 I've just installed Woody into my notebook and it seems to be working
 fine.  Only thing that I want to change is that I'd like to apt-get
 upgrade to KDE 3.  Can anyone explain the line to put into /etc/apt
 so that my notebook can just pull the stuff off the net and install
 it.

You can install KDE3 by following instructions at http://calc.cx/kde.txt. That 
file contains the apt lines as well.

You will need a few packages from sarge/sid on top of woody, iirc.

Paul Cupis
- -- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQE9RBECIzuKV+SHX/kRAvviAJ42rlCfEUXD6MHYyutlB3cuAP///wCfVYL8
G1CnzjZaZF/M73n89aNvgMI=
=X4CL
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: KDE3 and KDE2 side by side

2002-07-28 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Nicolai P Guba wrote:

 It's encouraging to know that a feature such as --prefix to dpkg would be
 appreciated... just not quite sure whether begging is my forte \grin{}

From what I know it takes long to get a feature into
(debian-base-infrastructure). Which is understandable. I suggest if want
to do it then go first to the relevant mailing list/maintainers and ask
around.

 BTW I've got other gripes with dpkg.  Like the abscence of indexes.  Being
 able to query which packages are in a logical group (ie dpkg -l -g editors,
 listing all packages that belong to the editors group for eg).  The current
 partitioning scheme is way too general for the number of packages debian
 handles nowadays.  (Was ok in the early days).

afaik aptitude or one of the newer apt-frontends has this. It's an index
that's maintaned separately. Have not checked, just heard/read it.
*t


 Tomas Pospisek
 SourcePole   -  Linux  Open Source Solutions
 http://sourcepole.ch
 Elestastrasse 18, 7310 Bad Ragaz, Switzerland
 Tel: +41 (81) 330 77 11



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Woody

2002-07-28 Thread Rafael Alexandre Schmitt
Em Dom 28 Jul 2002 11:19, Richard Ibbotson escreveu:
 Hi

 I know this one has been asked before but I couldn't find a reference
 to it in my Debian mail folders.

 I've just installed Woody into my notebook and it seems to be working
 fine.  Only thing that I want to change is that I'd like to apt-get
 upgrade to KDE 3.  Can anyone explain the line to put into /etc/apt
 so that my notebook can just pull the stuff off the net and install
 it.

Hi there!

Put this lines on your sources.list  :

deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./
deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3 ./

HTH
-- 
Rafael Alexandre Schmitt - Blumenau - Santa Catarina
Home Page - http://sites.uol.com.br/rafaelsch/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: KDE3 in sid update

2002-07-28 Thread Chris Cheney
On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 06:33:09PM +0100, John Gay wrote:
 So what are the known working versions of GCC for compiling KDE3 with?
 
 I am looking to try my hand at building a Pentium-optimised box from scratch. 
 lfs uses GCC2.95.5 but Debian provides both GCC2.95.5 and GCC3?
 
 I've also looked into PGCC, but the latest patches they have are for 
 GCC2.95.3 and the site seems to be un-maintained.

It is known to work on 2.95.4 and 3.0.x since those are the versions in
Debian already.  It will probably work with 3.1/3.2 but I am not
certain.

Chris


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




ksirc crashes

2002-07-28 Thread Rafael Alexandre Schmitt
Hi There!

First of it all sorry about my poor English. 
Portuguese is my mother tongue :o)
Anyway , i'm running ksirc 1.2.1 on my Sid box. 
Sometimes when i click on my desktop and move my mouse , or when i click 
inside ksirc and move my mouse it crashes.
Here is what i get:

no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 1024 (LWP 2062)]
(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...0x40f44899 in wait4 () from 
/lib/libc.so.6
#0  0x40f44899 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x40fbadd0 in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x40e0d447 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3  0x40638120 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from 
/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#4  0x40e0af54 in pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#5  0x40ecd678 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6
#6  0x4124ac21 in aListBox::item () from /usr/lib/ksirc.so
#7  0x4124a543 in aListBox::findSep () from /usr/lib/ksirc.so
#8  0x4124a5b2 in aListBox::searchFor () from /usr/lib/ksirc.so
#9  0x4124ab51 in aListBox::findNick () from /usr/lib/ksirc.so
#10 0x4127dbb3 in ChannelParser::parseINFOPart () from /usr/lib/ksirc.so
#11 0x4127468f in ChannelParser::parse () from /usr/lib/ksirc.so
#12 0x4123b4d3 in KSircTopLevel::parse_input () from /usr/lib/ksirc.so
#13 0x41239291 in KSircTopLevel::sirc_receive () from /usr/lib/ksirc.so
#14 0x4123e9f5 in KSircTopLevel::control_message () from 
/usr/lib/ksirc.so
#15 0x412523f0 in KSircIOBroadcast::control_message () from 
/usr/lib/ksirc.so
#16 0x41250455 in KSircIOController::stdout_read () from 
/usr/lib/ksirc.so
#17 0x41251406 in KSircIOController::qt_invoke () from /usr/lib/ksirc.so
#18 0x408f6933 in QObject::activate_signal () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#19 0x405ec2e3 in KProcess::receivedStdout () from 
/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#20 0x405eafcb in KProcess::childOutput () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#21 0x405eae3f in KProcess::slotChildOutput () from 
/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#22 0x405ec5dc in KProcess::qt_invoke () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#23 0x408f6933 in QObject::activate_signal () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#24 0x408f6a45 in QObject::activate_signal () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#25 0x40ba6d87 in QSocketNotifier::activated () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#26 0x4090d07e in QSocketNotifier::event () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#27 0x408994e3 in QApplication::internalNotify () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#28 0x40899384 in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#29 0x405ac354 in KApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#30 0x4084268b in qt_set_socket_handler () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#31 0x40842e47 in QApplication::processNextEvent () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#32 0x4089a921 in QApplication::enter_loop () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#33 0x408426f7 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#34 0x41249e58 in main () from /usr/lib/ksirc.so
#35 0x0804ccd6 in strcpy ()
#36 0x0804d96b in strcpy ()
#37 0x0804ddb5 in strcpy ()
#38 0x0804edd7 in strcpy ()
#39 0x40ebd14f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6

-- 
Rafael Alexandre Schmitt - Blumenau - Santa Catarina
Home Page - http://sites.uol.com.br/rafaelsch/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]