Re: Sound/aRTS/OSS
>> Um, that's *exactly* what I was saying with regards to the timeout: after >> 3 seconds, artsd "gives up" Doh! Well, daddy always said I was dumber than a box of rocks. :) I now see the light and it's bright! That seems to be just what was needed. Wine/KDE/sys sounds... it's all humming (no pun intended) along perfectly. I really appreciate your help... sorry I was a bit slow on the uptake there. :) And you know, now that you mention it, those system sounds _are_ a bit annoying. :)
Re: Sound/aRTS/OSS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 12 September 2002 07:00 pm, Charles Logan wrote: > >> If you don't want to have to kickstart artsd like this, have it startup > >> when you log in, and set the "timeout" value in kcontrol->Sound->Sound > >> Server to something very low (mine is 3 seconds). Wine et. al. should > >> still work and your system sounds will work from the get-go. > > Thanks for the reply, David! I think you're right on there. In > experimenting a bit, here's what I discovered. In sound preferences, I > have 'start arts server at startup' unchecked. As such, there is no system > sounds, but I can use Windows media player under Wine and video/audio works > great in it. If I go ahead and play a wav with noatun, xmms... any > program, at that point artsd is off and running, and stays running. If I > then try using Wine/Mplayer, it errors out as the driver Wine is using is > for OSS. If I kill artsd, I'm back to the beginning, no system sounds, but > Wine is fat, dumb and happy again. There is an arts driver for Wine that > I've tried, but the version I had was a bit buggy and caused more problems > than it solved. So, unless there's an option to use artsd only when > needed, and have it unload when not, it a matter of utilizing whichever > sound setup is needed for the program wanting to be used, ie: killing artsd > manually if it's running and I'm going to use a Windows app. Definitly > not the end of the world... at least it's making a bit of sense to me now. > Thanks again! Um, that's *exactly* what I was saying with regards to the timeout: after 3 seconds, artsd "gives up" the soundcard, and other apps can use it. Though, it may only work if you don't have system sounds on, as whatever process plays the system sounds could be constantly polling artsd, keeping it active. As I said, I don't use them, so I don't know :-) To test that, goto KControl->Sound->System Notifications->"Disable All Sounds" (at the bottom). Then set your timeout to something small (it's the "Autosuspend if idle for x seconds" option in the Sound Server module, use 10 or less). Then, wait the ten seconds after playing something in noatun, and see if your wine apps works, using the OSS driver. HTH! - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9gTkuEHLN/FXAbC0RAuP1AJ9wacO2wmHdRHYwVcqQBc50sfWKLwCg1yyU TV49FGISNBsQmAZxE5JJ0GM= =ommY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Sound/aRTS/OSS
>> If you don't want to have to kickstart artsd like this, have it startup >> when you log in, and set the "timeout" value in kcontrol->Sound->Sound >> Server to something very low (mine is 3 seconds). Wine et. al. should >> still work and your system sounds will work from the get-go. Thanks for the reply, David! I think you're right on there. In experimenting a bit, here's what I discovered. In sound preferences, I have 'start arts server at startup' unchecked. As such, there is no system sounds, but I can use Windows media player under Wine and video/audio works great in it. If I go ahead and play a wav with noatun, xmms... any program, at that point artsd is off and running, and stays running. If I then try using Wine/Mplayer, it errors out as the driver Wine is using is for OSS. If I kill artsd, I'm back to the beginning, no system sounds, but Wine is fat, dumb and happy again. There is an arts driver for Wine that I've tried, but the version I had was a bit buggy and caused more problems than it solved. So, unless there's an option to use artsd only when needed, and have it unload when not, it a matter of utilizing whichever sound setup is needed for the program wanting to be used, ie: killing artsd manually if it's running and I'm going to use a Windows app. Definitly not the end of the world... at least it's making a bit of sense to me now. Thanks again!
Re: Sound/aRTS/OSS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 12 September 2002 06:00 pm, Charles Logan wrote: > This isn't really a problem, more of a puzzlement/inconvienince. I've been > using OSS for sound for a year or so with no problems with it, KDE > included. Recently, after installing Wine and few Windoze apps that need > sound, I had to disable the aRTS server in KDE to get Wine, it's drivers > and OSS to play nice with KDE. Sound does still work in both Wine/windoze > apps and KDE with the exception of KDE system sounds. No fanfare on > startup, etc. But, once KDE is up and running if I play a wav file, any > wav will do, the KDE system sounds start working as always, giving me > perfect results sound-wise in all arenas. Using Wine and a windoze app to > play a wav won't do it, it has to be a Linux sound app, but once done all > is well. I'm just curious as to why the system sounds don't become > available (audible?) until it's kick started in that way. > > Cheers! This isn't backed by looking at the code, but I'm pretty positive I'm right :-) The "system sounds" aren't played if artsd isn't running, as, if you turn off artsd, KDEs not going to be rude enough to turn it back on just for clicks and beeps :-) OTOH, noatun and kaboodle are specificly sound-playing apps, and they both will start artsd for you if it isn't already running, because (obviously) if you've started either of them, you want to listen to your audio/video/whatever. At that point, if you stop playing music in noatun, or movies in kaboodle, artsd will detect it's not being used and unlatch itself from /dev/dsp but stay running, letting wine apps have free reign if they want it, and coming back whenever some app that uses artsd wants to play a sound; thus, your system sounds will work. If you don't want to have to kickstart artsd like this, have it startup when you log in, and set the "timeout" value in kcontrol->Sound->Sound Server to something very low (mine is 3 seconds). Wine et. al. should still work and your system sounds will work from the get-go. OTOH, I hate system sounds and I turn them all off B-) - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9gSqYEHLN/FXAbC0RAjSrAJ9g2Qsysa2w3lLDUbyQg6AbwiO62wCg3W0y J1ec6DlhW7bkNAwpUc3XjEE= =7EXU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Sound/aRTS/OSS
This isn't really a problem, more of a puzzlement/inconvienince. I've been using OSS for sound for a year or so with no problems with it, KDE included. Recently, after installing Wine and few Windoze apps that need sound, I had to disable the aRTS server in KDE to get Wine, it's drivers and OSS to play nice with KDE. Sound does still work in both Wine/windoze apps and KDE with the exception of KDE system sounds. No fanfare on startup, etc. But, once KDE is up and running if I play a wav file, any wav will do, the KDE system sounds start working as always, giving me perfect results sound-wise in all arenas. Using Wine and a windoze app to play a wav won't do it, it has to be a Linux sound app, but once done all is well. I'm just curious as to why the system sounds don't become available (audible?) until it's kick started in that way. Cheers!
Re: Reading kmail's Mail/ with other MUAs (was: Re: kmail: corrupted mbox folders)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 12 September 2002 11:36 am, Paul Cupis wrote: > On Thursday 12 September 2002 16:17, Joerg Platte wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 12. September 2002 14:59 schrieb Michael Schmitz: > > > My actual problem is as follows: > > > If I click on a mail in a mbox folder it's going corrupted imediately. > > > Subject, sender etc. changes to 'unknown' and the messages seems to be > > > a mixture of more than one mail. > > > > I've had the same problem before switching all mboxes to maildirs. > > > > > Using mutt, I can read the folders with no problem. But I've recognized > > > that all old mails which I've deleted via Kmail are still there. > > > > That's the problem. Don't read mailboxes with other programs than kmail. > > If this program modifies the mbox, kmails index files are invalid. > > This situation occured to me recently. Is there a known/recommended way to > use multiple MUA's, where kmail is the primary agent? I have kmail set up > to use maildir, but as you say, other agents corrupt/invalidate the > indexes. > > Is it a matter of deleting the index before running kmail and compressing > the folders whewn closing kmail? When using maildir, there shouldn't *be* indexes. Indexes are a hack to work around inefficiences with using mbox. However, if you have upgraded from a previous version of KMail that didn't support maildir, all your previous mailboxes will still be in mbox format. There are various ways to convert from one to the other, mainly, in kmail create a new folder (inbox2), copy all your mail (from inbox), exit kmail, delete the old folder and indexes, start kmail, copy all mail back. For non-system folders, you can create a new folder and then just rename it after deleting the old one. Yes it's hackish, no, afaik, there is no better way :-( To address your first question, I can tell you how *I* do it. I normally read all my mail at work, where I have KDE running all the time (collecting my work and home mail). However, when at home I am generally just checking for responses and whatnot, and don't need the filtering capability and whatnot. Thus, my setup is to have both IMAP and POP3 running on my home server, and retrieve all mail via POP3 when I'm at work, and read my mail via mutt and IMAP when I'm at home. That way I can read, response, delete, whatnot my mail at night using mutt, but still have all the mail available to pull into my work box the next day using KMail. Since they aren't even on the same machine, there is no worrying about indexes or anything at all. The reason I don't use IMAP exclusively is twofold: one, I only have a cablemodem with slow upload speed, so the responsiveness wouldn't be very good; two, KMail can't do filtering on imap accounts, and I don't want to have to learn fetchmail just to do what I can do in two clicks with KMail. Hope all that helps, and have a great day. - -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9gNjiEHLN/FXAbC0RAimfAJ9PbvIvO4FAZF5IuTsJTWp8IM3GKwCffzTo ULNsKYK1YXG3KNsjNBLhr18= =Q9lc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Reading kmail's Mail/ with other MUAs (was: Re: kmail: corrupted mbox folders)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 12 September 2002 16:17, Joerg Platte wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 12. September 2002 14:59 schrieb Michael Schmitz: > > My actual problem is as follows: > > If I click on a mail in a mbox folder it's going corrupted imediately. > > Subject, sender etc. changes to 'unknown' and the messages seems to be a > > mixture of more than one mail. > > I've had the same problem before switching all mboxes to maildirs. > > > Using mutt, I can read the folders with no problem. But I've recognized > > that all old mails which I've deleted via Kmail are still there. > > That's the problem. Don't read mailboxes with other programs than kmail. If > this program modifies the mbox, kmails index files are invalid. This situation occured to me recently. Is there a known/recommended way to use multiple MUA's, where kmail is the primary agent? I have kmail set up to use maildir, but as you say, other agents corrupt/invalidate the indexes. Is it a matter of deleting the index before running kmail and compressing the folders whewn closing kmail? Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9gNCeIzuKV+SHX/kRAu9zAJ9Jr2YrYbS6nfPptEcSafGhUrnPGACfXdrb dN3agSUr9+XUP3tD77Cfv4Y= =4KdV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Re: kmail: corrupted mbox folders
Am Donnerstag, 12. September 2002 14:59 schrieb Michael Schmitz: > My actual problem is as follows: > If I click on a mail in a mbox folder it's going corrupted imediately. > Subject, sender etc. changes to 'unknown' and the messages seems to be a > mixture of more than one mail. I've had the same problem before switching all mboxes to maildirs. > Using mutt, I can read the folders with no problem. But I've recognized > that all old mails which I've deleted via Kmail are still there. That's the problem. Don't read mailboxes with other programs than kmail. If this program modifies the mbox, kmails index files are invalid. > In the ~/Mail directory I've found some binary files aside the mbox file. > Example: > -rw---1 michael michael 4285097 12. Sep 14:50 GMX > drwx--S---2 michael michael 4096 29. Dez 2001 .GMX.directory > -rw---1 michael michael 1237 12. Sep 14:50 .GMX.index > -rw-r--r--1 michael michael89 12. Sep 14:50 .GMX.index.ids > -rw-r--r--1 michael michael 441 12. Sep 14:50 .GMX.index.sorted > > How can I get out of this?? Delete the index files. Kmail will recreate these files automatically. As you have noticed with mutt, all deleted mails are still in the mbox file and these mails are now visible. Delete them again and compress the folder to delete them physically. regards, Jörg -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your signature to help me spread!.-. PGP Key: send mail with subject 'SEND PGP-KEY' PGP Key-ID: FD 4E 21 1Doo| PGP Fingerprint: 388A872AFC5649D3 BCEC65778BE0C605 ICQ: 17472145_ // /`'\ I am Ohm of Borg. Resistance is voltage divided by current. \X/ (\_;/)
kmail: corrupted mbox folders
Hi, I'm using kmail with a mixture of imap, mbox and maildir folders (which I didn't noticed until now) My actual problem is as follows: If I click on a mail in a mbox folder it's going corrupted imediately. Subject, sender etc. changes to 'unknown' and the messages seems to be a mixture of more than one mail. Using mutt, I can read the folders with no problem. But I've recognized that all old mails which I've deleted via Kmail are still there. In the ~/Mail directory I've found some binary files aside the mbox file. Example: -rw---1 michael michael 4285097 12. Sep 14:50 GMX drwx--S---2 michael michael 4096 29. Dez 2001 .GMX.directory -rw---1 michael michael 1237 12. Sep 14:50 .GMX.index -rw-r--r--1 michael michael89 12. Sep 14:50 .GMX.index.ids -rw-r--r--1 michael michael 441 12. Sep 14:50 .GMX.index.sorted How can I get out of this?? May be using mutt to look at the folders causes the problem? KDE 3.0.3 unstable. Migrated from KDE 2.x Thank you in advance Michael
Re: Fwd: [reiserfs-list] Valgrind (Think Purify) and KCachegrind for Linux
[Russell CokerThursday 12 September 2002 03:28 am]: > Could someone please package this for Debian? Valgrind has been in Debian for quite a while its Debian version is 1.0.1 kcachegrind is not yet released (I think) but unfortunately it needs kde 3.0.x (it used to need kde 3.1) I tried and it is pretty impressive cu C. -- Christophe Prud'homme - Research Scientist MIT - Web: http://augustine.mit.edu/~prudhomm Tel: 617 - 452 3285
Re: new kd3 software for woody
Le Jeudi 12 Septembre 2002 09:16, Benoit Mortier a écrit : > Hello, > > i just put up a kde3 repository for woody at > > http://www.opensides.be/debian/kde3 > > this contains a lot of software lique quanta, kpovmodeler, kdevelop, > scribus etc.. > > have fun just to correct the information : it's only apt-getable for now... add deb http://www.opensides.be/debian/kde3/ ./ to your sources.list the complete explanation is a www.opensides.be, menu debian -- Opensides sprl Benoit Mortier - Linux Engineer
RE: new kd3 software for woody
Benoit, Link doesn't work for me. Dave -Original Message- From: Benoit Mortier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 5:16 PM To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org; David Pastern Subject: new kd3 software for woody Hello, i just put up a kde3 repository for woody at http://www.opensides.be/debian/kde3 this contains a lot of software lique quanta, kpovmodeler, kdevelop, scribus etc.. have fun -- Opensides sprl Benoit Mortier - Linux Engineer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new kd3 software for woody
On Thursday 12 September 2002 09:16, Benoit Mortier wrote: > Hello, > > i just put up a kde3 repository for woody at > > http://www.opensides.be/debian/kde3 > > this contains a lot of software lique quanta, kpovmodeler, kdevelop, scribus > etc.. thank you for your packages!! Just a note: it would be really cool if somewhere in the path would be a woody/sid or stable/unstable ;) Achim > > have fun > -- > Opensides sprl > Benoit Mortier - Linux Engineer > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: finding krusader!
On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, S. C. Linnenbringer wrote: > path, and there are no traces of it on my system. I compiled it correctly I would log in as root, type 'updatedb' and then 'locate krusader'. Regards Anders
Fwd: [reiserfs-list] Valgrind (Think Purify) and KCachegrind for Linux
Could someone please package this for Debian? -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [reiserfs-list] Valgrind (Think Purify) and KCachegrind for Linux Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 01:31:04 +0200 From: Dieter Nützel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ReiserFS List Here comes the link to the announcement on dot.kde.org: http://dot.kde.org/1031085340/ http://developer.kde.org/~sewardj/ http://www.weidendorfers.de/kcachegrind/index.html Regards, Dieter -- Dieter Nützel Graduate Student, Computer Science University of Hamburg Department of Computer Science @home: Dieter.Nuetzel at hamburg.de (replace at with @) --- -- I do not get viruses because I do not use MS software. If you use Outlook then please do not put my email address in your address-book so that WHEN you get a virus it won't use my address in the >From field.
new kd3 software for woody
Hello, i just put up a kde3 repository for woody at http://www.opensides.be/debian/kde3 this contains a lot of software lique quanta, kpovmodeler, kdevelop, scribus etc.. have fun -- Opensides sprl Benoit Mortier - Linux Engineer
Re: Unidentified subject!
On Thursday 12 September 2002 03:31, S. C. Linnenbringer wrote: > Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks. A list of compiled-in KDE paths: kde-config --path exe The binary could however have ended up in something like /usr/local/bin. Didn't 'make install' tell you where it put the binary? Josef -- Free operating systems. Free software. Free games.
