Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread tech
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 12:13:09AM +, Paul Cupis wrote:
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> On Monday 03 Mar 2003 23:34, David Bishop wrote:
> > On Monday 03 March 2003 04:13 pm, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote:
> [re: k3b]
> > > I wanted to package it for unstable, but I have made a first
> > > package. But I don't think that k3b rules. The wizard sucks ! It
> > > made change on devices and program permission. I think this is a
> > > bad idea. k3b also
> >
> > Well, broken permissions are the #1 problem people have with cd
> > burning on linux, bar none.  Relying upon distributions to make this
> > easy/simple/actually work has not been successful in the past, so the
> > app authors end up working around this.  k3b is *not* the only cd
> > burning prog to do this, iirc, cdbakeoven does the same thing.
> 
> It does, and it can be a right pain.
> 
> Debian systems do have infrastructure for CD-Burning facilities to have 
> the correct permissions already setup (via the cdrom group), so I am 
> going to try and get cdbakeoven upstream to either allow the setuptool 
> to be seeded with answers or bypassed, at least for Debian systems.

At least with k3b, there is a way to simply not have the wizard change
anything.  I only used cdbakeoven long enough to figure out that it does
not have my killer feature*, so I'll just take your word for it not
having the same thing :-)

D.A.Bishop

*for those who are interested, (all 2 of you), my killer feature is
being able to drag a directory into the 'project', find that it is 900+
megs, and then selectively delete subdirs and individual files until it
fits.  k3b allows this, gcombust and cdbakeoven don't, dunno about
xcdroast.  There, now you know more than you ever wanted to about my cd
burning habits...




Re: k3b package [was Re: How Do I Burn CDs?]

2003-03-03 Thread tech
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 07:11:51PM -0500, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote:
> On 03/03/03 at 18:57 David Bishop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> > You won't find me complaining about what you do or do not do in your spare 
> > time*, even when I really, really, want the app you are packaging.  Good 
> > luck 
> > in whatever your endevours take you to next :-)
> 
> I don't know if I will package it, or not. As a said previsously, I had
> to see what should be the best for packaging it !
> Should I modify the source, or not ?

It it's that big a deal to you, yes!  If every distribution starts
modifying it, because they *do* have an easy to use way to setup
permissions, then pretty soon the wizard code will just be dropped
upstream.  I can garuntee the authors of k3b don't like having to
maintain that anymore than you like it being there :-)

> You will find a package of k3b on http://people.debian.org/~kelbert/
> It don't have modify any line of the upstream code in this package.
> 
> Feel free to report any bug directly to me. Don't use the BTS.

I just downloaded it, seems to work fine.  Of course, I have all the
config still from the karolina version, so I didn't even see the wizard
again :-)  The only thing of note is that it appears to be compiled with
some sort of debugging turned on (?).  At least, it is extremely verbose
when started from the command-line.  And while I *like* my apps with
debugging enabled, to make better bug reports, I know that isn't
generally the "ship" state.

I must take this chance to say thank you, I was starting to really hate 
gcombust...

Thanks,

David




Re: Where is kdenetwork, where is Chris?

2003-03-03 Thread Jeff Elkins
I'm a Debian newbie/refugee from RedHat and don't consider myself particularly 
unqualified to use Sid. And yes, I'm wondering where KDE 3.1 (complete) is 
and why I can't use apt-get to install it rather than compiling my own.

I have searched the archives and they don't provide the info. I don't 
understand why this is an unreasonable question. I need to install KDE 3.1 on 
two slow iMac powerpc boxes and apt-get would beat the heck out of compiles.

In general, my experience with Sid has been fine.

Jeff Elkins
http://www.elkins.org





Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 03 Mar 2003 23:34, David Bishop wrote:
> On Monday 03 March 2003 04:13 pm, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote:
[re: k3b]
> > I wanted to package it for unstable, but I have made a first
> > package. But I don't think that k3b rules. The wizard sucks ! It
> > made change on devices and program permission. I think this is a
> > bad idea. k3b also
>
> Well, broken permissions are the #1 problem people have with cd
> burning on linux, bar none.  Relying upon distributions to make this
> easy/simple/actually work has not been successful in the past, so the
> app authors end up working around this.  k3b is *not* the only cd
> burning prog to do this, iirc, cdbakeoven does the same thing.

It does, and it can be a right pain.

Debian systems do have infrastructure for CD-Burning facilities to have 
the correct permissions already setup (via the cdrom group), so I am 
going to try and get cdbakeoven upstream to either allow the setuptool 
to be seeded with answers or bypassed, at least for Debian systems.

Paul Cupis
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k3b package [was Re: How Do I Burn CDs?]

2003-03-03 Thread Jean-Michel Kelbert
On 03/03/03 at 18:57 David Bishop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> authors end up working around this.  k3b is *not* the only cd burning prog to 
> do this, iirc, cdbakeoven does the same thing.

I know. So I don't know what a good package should made. I have to
re-think on that I think !

> You won't find me complaining about what you do or do not do in your spare 
> time*, even when I really, really, want the app you are packaging.  Good luck 
> in whatever your endevours take you to next :-)

I don't know if I will package it, or not. As a said previsously, I had
to see what should be the best for packaging it !
Should I modify the source, or not ?

You will find a package of k3b on http://people.debian.org/~kelbert/
It don't have modify any line of the upstream code in this package.

Feel free to report any bug directly to me. Don't use the BTS.

Thanks.
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Re: Krusader for 3.1?

2003-03-03 Thread Ben Burton

> > anybody seen Krusader for KDE 3.1 as a Deb-Package somewhere
> > (preferred for woody)?

It's already in sid built for KDE 3.1.

Ben.




Re: Where is kdenetwork, where is Chris?

2003-03-03 Thread Bjorn Helgaas
> I would suggest you use a distribution, like woody, that isn't in rapid 
> development and does not require going to the archives or Google to have it 
> work. Sid is not meant for people, like you, who want to have things work out 
> of the box.

Maybe so, but in general, Sid _does_ work out of the box, so I
wouldn't advocate ditching it quite so fast.  Anybody who's willing
to go to the trouble of following the mailing list, searching the
archives, and adding Ralf's KDE packages to his sources.list sounds
like a good candidate for running Sid (and giving useful feedback
when things don't work).

I think the problem is that KDE just isn't quite "there" yet in
Debian, and these are the growing pains that we should expect in
these early days.  It would be useful to know what the current
problems are, in case someone else has the time/expertise to look
into them.

Bjorn




Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread David Bishop
On Monday 03 March 2003 04:13 pm, Jean-Michel Kelbert wrote:
> Le 03/03/03 à 13:14 Andreas Bauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait :
> > k3b rules
> >
> > Someone wanted to make a package for unstable. So wait a week or so.
>
> I wanted to package it for unstable, but I have made a first package.
> But I don't think that k3b rules. The wizard sucks ! It made change on
> devices and program permission. I think this is a bad idea. k3b also

Well, broken permissions are the #1 problem people have with cd burning on 
linux, bar none.  Relying upon distributions to make this 
easy/simple/actually work has not been successful in the past, so the app 
authors end up working around this.  k3b is *not* the only cd burning prog to 
do this, iirc, cdbakeoven does the same thing.

> provide a configuration file that is note in /etc/. I askded the
> upstream where I could change this. They doesn't want to answer me ! I
> find where this could be changed, but when you see what upstream say
> about the suse packager, this doesn't motivate me to package it !

I know nothing about this, thus can't comment.

> So I think that I will close my ITP and let someone else package it.

You won't find me complaining about what you do or do not do in your spare 
time*, even when I really, really, want the app you are packaging.  Good luck 
in whatever your endevours take you to next :-)


*other email sent 5 minutes ago to the contrary, as I simply said what Chris 
could do to stop whing, not demanded that he do it
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D.A.Bishop




Re: Where is kdenetwork, where is Chris?

2003-03-03 Thread David Bishop
> First of all, if you are running sid then you should be competent enough to
> READ THE MAILING LIST (or list archives) and FIGURE OUT that kdenetwork et
> cetera is at:
>
> deb http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-other/ ./

Unfortunetly, not "etcetera".  I.e., specifically it is missing all of kdepim, 
and (I think) some of kdenetwork.

> I would suggest you use a distribution, like woody, that isn't in rapid
> development and does not require going to the archives or Google to have it
> work. Sid is not meant for people, like you, who want to have things work
> out of the box.

No amount of reading the list of googling would have given the answer to the 
question he asked, which was, "when is the rest of kde going into sid?".
Actually, he showed the ability to search archives when he looked up the 
rebuttal to this.  It hasn't been discussed over and over *by the people who 
can answer his question*.  Chris hasn't posted to this mailing list in almost 
three weeks.  IIRC, his last email or so was regarding the rest of kde being 
help up by a bad qt, which, unless I'm mistaken, has been fixed for a while 
now.  So the perfectly valid question, posed in a perfectly valid 
non-demanding way, is: what's the holdup?  Much of the antsiness of people 
around here could be settled by simple 3-line status updates by the relevant 
parties.

> Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I'm just in a irritated mood with topics
> that have been discussed OVER and OVER and OVER again. :)

Nobody can stop newbies from signing up to the list and asking the same 
questions over and over again, with no regard for the list archives (why 
doesn't my sound work would be a good example of that), but this isn't that 
email.

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D.A.Bishop




Re: kickpim

2003-03-03 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* R. Rodriguez schrieb am 03.03.03 um 22:10 Uhr:
> Hi. I'm using orth's cvs-based debs, and they work perfectly. But he hasn't 
> compiled kickpim yet, and when i try to apt-get source --compile it from 
> ralph's source, i get the following error:
> 
> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) 
> not found. Please check your installation!
> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
> 
> I've tried with libqt3-dev and libqt3c102-mt-dev (because they conflict each 
> other).
> 
> Any ideas??
> 

libqt3 has been restructured recently. So I thing you will have to
look into the debian/rules (or control?) file of the source package
where it is looking for qt headers and correct the path. 
It may also be, that you need to install qt3-compat-headers.


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Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Jean-Michel Kelbert
Le 03/03/03 à 13:14 Andreas Bauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait :
> k3b rules 
> 
> Someone wanted to make a package for unstable. So wait a week or so.

I wanted to package it for unstable, but I have made a first package.
But I don't think that k3b rules. The wizard sucks ! It made change on
devices and program permission. I think this is a bad idea. k3b also
provide a configuration file that is note in /etc/. I askded the
upstream where I could change this. They doesn't want to answer me ! I
find where this could be changed, but when you see what upstream say
about the suse packager, this doesn't motivate me to package it !

So I think that I will close my ITP and let someone else package it.
-- 
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Re: Where is kdenetwork, where is Chris?

2003-03-03 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Monday 03 March 2003 01:52 pm, Felix Homann wrote:

> Hi,
>
> once again the question: Why has kdenetwork still not made it into Sid?
>
> I think this has been discussed the last time on February 23. No answer has
> been given...
>
> Chris Cheney hasn't shown up on this list since February 16. Is he
> suffering some illness? Is he in trouble with kdenetwork? Is there anything
> we/I can do to help? Is he still involved in KDE packaging?
>
> ...or should I have sticked to Woody with Ralf Nolden's excellent *and
> complete* packages???
>
> A short note on kdenetwork's status, hows and whys would be highly
> appreciated!

First of all, if you are running sid then you should be competent enough to 
READ THE MAILING LIST (or list archives) and FIGURE OUT that kdenetwork et 
cetera is at:

deb http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-other/ ./

I would suggest you use a distribution, like woody, that isn't in rapid 
development and does not require going to the archives or Google to have it 
work. Sid is not meant for people, like you, who want to have things work out 
of the box. 

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I'm just in a irritated mood with topics that 
have been discussed OVER and OVER and OVER again. :)


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Re: Strange cd-burner I have

2003-03-03 Thread Fred K Ollinger

Do

dmesg | grep cd

and post the results.

Fred

> I have a strange CD burner.  It's not detected by cdrecord -scanbus, and
> so therefore not detected by cdbakeoven.  The only way I can actually
> use it to burn stuff is with xcdroast, whose interface I absolutely
> despise.  I'll continue to use it if I must, but I'd rather not.
>
> When I go into xcdroast, it says the bus id is ATAPI:0,1, and all the
> speed settings are correct.
>
> Does anyone have any idea why this would be?  I'd like to use
> cdbakeoven, but I can't get it (or cdrecord, unless I tell it to use
> ATAPI:0,1) to detect my cd-burner.




Strange cd-burner I have

2003-03-03 Thread Rene Horn
I have a strange CD burner.  It's not detected by cdrecord -scanbus, and so 
therefore not detected by cdbakeoven.  The only way I can actually use it to 
burn stuff is with xcdroast, whose interface I absolutely despise.  I'll 
continue to use it if I must, but I'd rather not.

When I go into xcdroast, it says the bus id is ATAPI:0,1, and all the speed 
settings are correct.

Does anyone have any idea why this would be?  I'd like to use cdbakeoven, but I 
can't get it (or cdrecord, unless I tell it to use ATAPI:0,1) to detect my 
cd-burner.

Rene
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Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Fred K Ollinger
1. I didn't know about: /etc/default/cdrecord,
2. I meant to run mkisofs for you, then to remove the image, not just to
get dev
3. I like to dynamically get dev as it might change.

cheers,

Fred Ollinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
CCN sysadmin

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> > Why not use cdrecord? It's not hard.
> >
> > Make a cdimage from a folder:
> >
> > mkisofs -r -J -o myfolder.iso myfolder
> >
> > Get your dev numbers:
> >
> > cdrecord -scanbus
> >
> > For me, this gives me 0,0,0. Here's the output:
> >
> > scsibus0:
> > 0,0,0 0) 'ATAPI   ' 'CD-R/RW 20X10   ' 'H.KF' Removable
> > CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) *
> > 0,2,0 2) *
> > 0,3,0 3) *
> > 0,4,0 4) *
> > 0,5,0 5) *
> > 0,6,0 6) *
> > 0,7,0 7)
> >
> > Now do the burn:
> >
> > cdrecord -dev=0,0,0 -data myfolder.iso
> >
> > You can make a wrapper script that knows your numbers and burns it
> > all in one easy go.
>
> A wrapper script? Why not just set the default device to use in
> /etc/default/cdrecord, per the maintaners suggestion?
>
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Re: How Do I Burn CDs? AND: Context menu shell scripts

2003-03-03 Thread Marcus C. Gottwald

Hello!

Thomas Ritter wrote (Mon 2003-Mar-03 21:19:06 +0100):

> #!/bin/bash
> mkisofs -r -J $* | sudo cdrecord -v -overburn \ 
> -eject -isosize -data -

I was curious about the "-isosize" option and had a look at
cdrecord's man page. There it says:

   -isosize
  [..] Do not use this option if cdrecord reads the
  track data from stdin. [..]

Have you ever run into a situation where you actually needed
this option to be set?


Cheers, Marcus

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kickpim

2003-03-03 Thread R. Rodriguez
Hi. I'm using orth's cvs-based debs, and they work perfectly. But he hasn't 
compiled kickpim yet, and when i try to apt-get source --compile it from 
ralph's source, i get the following error:

checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) 
not found. Please check your installation!
For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.

I've tried with libqt3-dev and libqt3c102-mt-dev (because they conflict each 
other).

Any ideas??

Thx anyone




Re: How Do I Burn CDs? AND: Context menu shell scripts

2003-03-03 Thread Thomas Ritter
Am Montag, 3. März 2003 19:34 schrieb Fred K Ollinger:
> cdrecord -dev=0,0,0 -data myfolder.iso

...

Just a note: I made the following bash script and bound it in Konqueror to the 
MIME type of "directory", with "execute in an xterm" or however this option 
says in english.
Now I just have to right-click a directory and select "Burn directory 
on-the-fly" from the context menu and the burning process starts, as I don't 
care about CD names and so on.

#--
#!/bin/bash
mkisofs -r -J $* | sudo cdrecord -v -overburn \ 
-eject -isosize -data -
echo Please press ENTER.
read
#--

It's simple and useful. You just have to configure your device in 
/etc/cdrecord/cdrecord, so all defaults are okay.

To all: I am sure many people made such easy scripts for various uses and 
bound them to mime types in konqueror (think about "wget this recursively"). 
How about collecting these and making a package from all this, 
"konqueror-helpers" or so... I am missing a lot of useful commandline tools 
from KDE and just starting them in an xterm should be a good idea.
This could even get a bigger project, with a kcontrol module to choose from 
many utilities.

To the .deb-specialists and KDE package maintainers: Debian has a MIME 
registry with filetype-program and filetype-action associations (like "view" 
or "edit"). Is there any reason not to write a script 
"update-konqueror-actions", making .desktop-files for all those mime types? 
It just would have to store whichh files are autogenerated to be able to 
remove them when the package is removed.
Or does apt have a directory for scripts executed after every 
install/update/remove action? This would be even better, then the 
.desktop-files would be always up-to-date.
There are even things like "needsterminal" in /etc/mailcap...

If anyone except me finds this useful, I will write it, that shouldn't be so 
much work in python or perl ;)

kappfinder does this the other way round, it maintains a small set of 
applications with hand-written .desktop files. With debian and apt and its 
mime registry system (which should be far more used my package maintainers) 
this should be handled smarter.

PS: There is no MIME type for "ISO-Image"? And CUE-Sheets?
-- 
Thomas Ritter




Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Dave
I second that, as far as graphical apps go, k3b is my
personal favorite. And, yes, I know it's not available
right now...

Of course, when you want quick down-n-dirty burning,
nothing comes close to plain ole mkisofs and cdrecord.

Once I took the time to learn the commands, I found
myself using konsole more and more when I needed to
burn.

Please don't go, Bob.

Dave




--- Andreas Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Tilley wrote:
> 
> > As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been
> contemplating moving
> > back
> > to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD
> burning.  I have no cd
> > burning program on my Debian unstable box, having
> tried all available
> > (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable).
> > 
> > Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I
> resume kneeling at the altar
> > of Bill?
> 
> k3b rules 
> 
> Someone wanted to make a package for unstable. So
> wait a week or so.
> 
> Greetings,
> -- 
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Wine programs and minimize/maximize buttons (KDE 3.1)

2003-03-03 Thread Stephan Hachinger
Hi!

After having installed kde 3.1 (on debian woody), the minimize and maximize
buttons have disappeared for wine programs (but the windows can still be
resized, and "managed" is switched to "yes" in wine.conf). Has anybody else
experienced this problem too, or does anyone know why this happens?

TIA,

Stephan




Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 03 Mar 2003 18:34, Fred K Ollinger wrote:
> Why not use cdrecord? It's not hard.
>
> Make a cdimage from a folder:
>
> mkisofs -r -J -o myfolder.iso myfolder
>
> Get your dev numbers:
>
> cdrecord -scanbus
>
> For me, this gives me 0,0,0. Here's the output:
>
> scsibus0:
> 0,0,0 0) 'ATAPI   ' 'CD-R/RW 20X10   ' 'H.KF' Removable
> CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) *
> 0,2,0 2) *
> 0,3,0 3) *
> 0,4,0 4) *
> 0,5,0 5) *
> 0,6,0 6) *
> 0,7,0 7)
>
> Now do the burn:
>
> cdrecord -dev=0,0,0 -data myfolder.iso
>
> You can make a wrapper script that knows your numbers and burns it
> all in one easy go.

A wrapper script? Why not just set the default device to use in 
/etc/default/cdrecord, per the maintaners suggestion?

Paul Cupis
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Where is kdenetwork, where is Chris?

2003-03-03 Thread Felix Homann
Hi,

once again the question: Why has kdenetwork still not made it into Sid?

I think this has been discussed the last time on February 23. No answer has 
been given...

Chris Cheney hasn't shown up on this list since February 16. Is he suffering 
some illness? Is he in trouble with kdenetwork? Is there anything we/I can do 
to help? Is he still involved in KDE packaging?

...or should I have sticked to Woody with Ralf Nolden's excellent *and 
complete* packages???

A short note on kdenetwork's status, hows and whys would be highly 
appreciated!

Regards,

Felix 




Re: apt-get -b source compile problems

2003-03-03 Thread Carlos Acedo
Frank Van Damme wrote:
On Sunday 02 March 2003 20:20, Carlos Acedo wrote:
 

here an example of what I do:
$ apt-get build-dep kdebase
$ apt-get -b source kdebase
   

This is not going to build athlon optimised applications. You have to set mess 
with the debian/rules file I think, and set C(PP)FLAGS to the right values 
there.

 

I think with:
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -m3dnow -msse -mfpmath=sse -mmmx -O3 -pipe 
-fforce-addr -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -frerun-cse-after-loop 
-frerun-loop-opt -falign-functions=4 -maccumulate-outgoing-args 
-ffast-math -fprefetch-loop-arrays"
CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -m3dnow -msse -mfpmath=sse -mmmx -O3 -pipe 
-fforce-addr -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -frerun-cse-after-loop 
-frerun-loop-opt -falign-functions=4 -maccumulate-outgoing-args 
-ffast-math -fprefetch-loop-arrays"

Should compile athlon-xp omtimized binaries, at least does it with all 
progs compiled since I use gcc-3.2.

but I steel don't know why I get that .moc not found error :(



Re: ktown.kde.org or download.uk.kde.org?

2003-03-03 Thread Yun-Ta Tsai
They are the same. :-)

Tim
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 03:03, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is there a difference between those packages (only looking at the kde
> packages, not the extras)?
>
> HS
>
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is there a difference between those packages (only looking at the kde 
packages, not the extras)?

HS

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KDE3.1 for Debian testing

2003-03-03 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Hi,

is this available somewhere?
If not, I would probably compile this myself.

What steps must be taken to achieve an optimized version for my Athlon?
Do I have to tweak files in the debian subdirs or is something like 
CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/LDFLAGS enough?

How long will it probably take to compile (1.33GHz) with gcc-2.95.4? Or should 
gcc-3.2 be used in any case?

How much space must be reserved on disk for the compilation?

Thnx

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Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Todd Charron
Sure, but he was looking for a program that wouldn't make him run back to 
Windows.  I think the nice gui of cdbakeoven would be more of what he's 
looking for.  Nothing against calling cdrecord directly, I just don't think 
that's what he was looking for.

Todd

On March 3, 2003 01:34 pm, Fred K Ollinger wrote:
> > cdbakeoven is quite friendly
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On March 3, 2003 12:17 pm, Robert Tilley wrote:
> > > As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving
> > > back to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning.  I have no
> > > cd burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all
> > > available (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable).
> > >
> > > Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the
> > > altar of Bill?
>
> Why not use cdrecord? It's not hard.
>
> Make a cdimage from a folder:
>
> mkisofs -r -J -o myfolder.iso myfolder
>
> Get your dev numbers:
>
> cdrecord -scanbus
>
> For me, this gives me 0,0,0. Here's the output:
>
> scsibus0:
> 0,0,0 0) 'ATAPI   ' 'CD-R/RW 20X10   ' 'H.KF' Removable CD-ROM
> 0,1,0 1) *
> 0,2,0 2) *
> 0,3,0 3) *
> 0,4,0 4) *
> 0,5,0 5) *
> 0,6,0 6) *
> 0,7,0 7)
>
> Now do the burn:
>
> cdrecord -dev=0,0,0 -data myfolder.iso
>
> You can make a wrapper script that knows your numbers and burns it all in
> one easy go.
>
> Fred




Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Fred K Ollinger
> cdbakeoven is quite friendly
>
> Todd
>
> On March 3, 2003 12:17 pm, Robert Tilley wrote:
> > As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving
> > back to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning.  I have no cd
> > burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all available
> > (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable).
> >
> > Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the altar
> > of Bill?

Why not use cdrecord? It's not hard.

Make a cdimage from a folder:

mkisofs -r -J -o myfolder.iso myfolder

Get your dev numbers:

cdrecord -scanbus

For me, this gives me 0,0,0. Here's the output:

scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'ATAPI   ' 'CD-R/RW 20X10   ' 'H.KF' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7)

Now do the burn:

cdrecord -dev=0,0,0 -data myfolder.iso

You can make a wrapper script that knows your numbers and burns it all in
one easy go.

Fred




Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
måndagen den 3 mars 2003 18.17 skrev Robert Tilley:
> As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving
> back to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning.  I have no cd
> burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all available
> (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable).
>
> Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the altar
> of Bill?

I had the same problem, trying all programs in debian. That was until I found 
k3b, and found that it does the job good. Unfortunately, the common answer 
for a KDE program applies - it is not in debian yet. Probably on the way.

Karolina




Re: Upgrade report: Woody/KDE2.2 -> Sid+/KDE3.1

2003-03-03 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 03 Mar 2003 00:17, Peter Nome wrote:
> Thanks for the very useful report. What would be helpful is if you
> could send us a copy of the relevant parts of your sources.list --
> I'm unfamiliar with the way you tweak it to set priorities.

Okay, for the purposes of this exercise, I've effectively got:

deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-other ./
deb http://phebehouse.dyndns.org/pub/kdepim ./

in my sources.list, and:

Package: *
Pin: release unstable
Pin-priority: 800

Package: *
Pin: origin people.debian.org
Pin-Priority: 880

Package: *
Pin: origin phebehouse.dyndns.org
Pin-Priority: 850

in my /etc/apt/preferences file.

This tells apt to give Debian/unstable a priority of 800 (i.e. higher 
than already installed debs and higher than the default for 'other' 
sources), but gives the two unofficial sources even higher priority 
than Debian unstable.

This means that the unofficial debs of kdenetwork and kdepim will be 
prefered over the old ones in Debian/unstable, but Debian/unstable will 
be used for everything else (i.e. everything not in the two unofficial 
sources).

Please ask if you would like further details.

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Re: QT Version Problem

2003-03-03 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 03 Mar 2003 16:36, Robert Tilley wrote:
> When attempting to compile cdbakeoven, the following occured:
>
>   
>   checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021))
> (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
>   
>
> This same error occurs with most software for KDE 3.1 that I try to
> compile. I have installed KDE 3.1 on my Debian unstable box and am
> clueless as to why this occurs.  If I have KDE 3.1, don't I
> automatically require and therefore have QT 3.1?

What libqt3 packages do you have installed? Can you try running:

  apt-get build-dep cdbakeoven

please?

Also, do you realise that cdbakeoven is available from sid?

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Problem after installing KDE 3.1

2003-03-03 Thread Kay-Michael Voit
Hi,
I've a problem with KDE 3.1.
I'm quite new to Debian, so to start, I installed a basic system
without kde and servers.
Now I tried to install KDE 3.1, adding
deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main
to my sources.list and using
apt-get install kdebase kdm

So far so good. Everythink works fine, and the right packages are
installed, i chose kdm as default.
At the end of the installation
Starting K Desktop Manager: done
is printed.

Now what do I have to do now? Where do I have to set my display and
graphic adapter settings?
How do I start it?

Thanks for helping,
Kay Michael Voit




Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Yun-Ta Tsai
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 01:17, Robert Tilley wrote:
> As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving
> back to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning.  I have no cd
> burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all available
> (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable).
>
k3b,cdbakeoven will be nice.
However, might need some tricky configurations if u want to burn Audio CD.
remember put ur drive name in /usr/share/cdrdao/drivers.

Tim
> Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the altar
> of Bill?
> --
> Comments are most appreciated,
>
> Bob


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Re: cdbakeoven

2003-03-03 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 03 Mar 2003 15:36, Stephan Hachinger wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bob Underwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I installed cdbakeoven on my machine this past weekend.  During the
> > configuration, it wanted to add my cdburner to fstab as /dev/hdd.
> > The burner is already working properly as /dev/scd0.
> >
> > Is there any advantage to having it listed as /dev/hdd in addition
> > to /dev/scd0?  Am I missing something obvious here?
>
> If it's a scsi burner, it should not be listed as /dev/hdd, because
> /dev/hdd normally is the name for the slave on the secondary ide
> channel. Maybe some cdbakeoven drive detection problem?

Yes, it does. Both the autodetection and the setup wizard still need 
some work, particularly for Debian use.

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Re: QT Version Problem

2003-03-03 Thread Ralf Nolden
On Montag, 3. März 2003 17:36, Robert Tilley wrote:
> When attempting to compile cdbakeoven, the following occured:
>
>   
>   checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers
> and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
>   
>
> This same error occurs with most software for KDE 3.1 that I try to
> compile. I have installed KDE 3.1 on my Debian unstable box and am clueless
> as to why this occurs.  If I have KDE 3.1, don't I automatically require
> and therefore have QT 3.1?

You have. Install libqt3-mt-dev and then pass --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3 to 
any configure that looks up Qt3 or export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3. In the admin 
dirs this is already fixed since yesterday by coolo and that shouldn't be 
needed with newer software, given that the programmers update their admin 
directory of the projects with the CVS version from kde-common/admin 
(KDE_3_1_BRANCH)

Ralf
> --
> Comments are most appreciated,
>
> Bob

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Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Todd Charron
cdbakeoven is quite friendly

Todd

On March 3, 2003 12:17 pm, Robert Tilley wrote:
> As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving
> back to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning.  I have no cd
> burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all available
> (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable).
>
> Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the altar
> of Bill?
> --
> Comments are most appreciated,
>
> Bob




Re: QT Version Problem

2003-03-03 Thread konrad
Robert Tilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> When attempting to compile cdbakeoven, the following occured:
> 
>   
>   checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and 
> 
>   libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
>   
 
Try "./configure --prefix=/usr --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 
--with-qt-libraries=/usr/share/qt3/lib"
Maybe adding "--with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3" to this is also helpful.
If this does not help try "export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3" before configuring

This problem is reported very often
 please also read this list and not just ask when having problems

Konrad




Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Andreas Bauer
Robert Tilley wrote:

> As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving
> back
> to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning.  I have no cd
> burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all available
> (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable).
> 
> Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the altar
> of Bill?

k3b rules 

Someone wanted to make a package for unstable. So wait a week or so.

Greetings,
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Re: How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Michael Hoodes
Bob, 

Before you go, try gcombust ... this has been the most consistent
stable, accurate and lean and mean burner for Linux I have found.
I have tried them all and always got back to gcombust. 

Michael 


On Monday 03 March 2003 09:17 am, Robert Tilley wrote:
> As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating
> moving back to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning.  I
> have no cd burning program on my Debian unstable box, having tried
> all available (namely, xcdroast, which is horribly unusable).
>
> Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the
> altar of Bill?
> --
> Comments are most appreciated,
>
> Bob

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How Do I Burn CDs?

2003-03-03 Thread Robert Tilley
As heretical as this may sound, I've actually been contemplating moving back 
to a Windows XP OS simply for the ease of CD burning.  I have no cd burning 
program on my Debian unstable box, having tried all available (namely,  
xcdroast, which is horribly unusable).

Can anyone suggest any alternatives before I resume kneeling at the altar of 
Bill?
-- 
Comments are most appreciated,

Bob




Re: unstable upgrade breaks all kde3.1 apps

2003-03-03 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
* Sebastian Bunka schrieb am 03.03.03 um 15:55 Uhr:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've got my first serious problem since many years that I cannot track down.
> I'm running "unstable", so this can happen :-)
> 
> Today (03/03/2003) I did an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and more than 
> 100 packages were upgraded. meanwhile (I'm running kde3.1) the window
> manager was dead, the hd was spinning. I killed X and kdm started to launch
> but never came to life, kdm_greeter eats more than 100 MB memory and more
> than 60% CPU, so I shut down kdm and tried startx with kde3 with the same
> problem, and with icewm also. Only with wmaker it works. Most stuff works
> like mozilla xterm, rxvt, lynx, gtk-applications, only any kde app eats
> memory and cpu and never appears (for instancce kcalc > 100 MB virtual mem,
> and > 65% cpu).
> 
> So anyone has a similar problem? Any idea to track this down (library
> problem?)?
> 
> I've tried to run "nice -n 10 kcalc > xxxfile 2>&1" and only found thousands
> of lines where the app is loading every font file ... What the hell is this,
> other apps doesn't do that. I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but this
> did not help.
> 
> 

This is an FAQ now

Make sure libfontconfig1 and fontconfig are installed. As root run
fc-cache then.

-Marc


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QT Version Problem

2003-03-03 Thread Robert Tilley
When attempting to compile cdbakeoven, the following occured:

  
  checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and   
  
  libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
  

This same error occurs with most software for KDE 3.1 that I try to compile.  
I have installed KDE 3.1 on my Debian unstable box and am clueless as to why 
this occurs.  If I have KDE 3.1, don't I automatically require and therefore 
have QT 3.1?
-- 
Comments are most appreciated,

Bob




Re: cdbakeoven

2003-03-03 Thread Stephan Hachinger
- Original Message -
From: "Bob Underwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 3:21 PM
Subject: cdbakeoven


> I installed cdbakeoven on my machine this past weekend.  During the
> configuration, it wanted to add my cdburner to fstab as /dev/hdd.
> The burner is already working properly as /dev/scd0.

> Is there any advantage to having it listed as /dev/hdd in addition to
> /dev/scd0?  Am I missing something obvious here?

If it's a scsi burner, it should not be listed as /dev/hdd, because /dev/hdd
normally is the name for the slave on the secondary ide channel. Maybe some
cdbakeoven drive detection problem?

Regards,

Stephan




Re: unstable upgrade breaks all kde3.1 apps

2003-03-03 Thread Sebastian Bunka
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 08:16:20AM -0700, kosh wrote:
> On Monday 03 March 2003 07:55 am, Sebastian Bunka wrote:
> > So anyone has a similar problem? Any idea to track this down (library
> > problem?)?
> >
> > I've tried to run "nice -n 10 kcalc > xxxfile 2>&1" and only found
> > thousands of lines where the app is loading every font file ... What the
> > hell is this, other apps doesn't do that. I did dpkg-reconfigure
> > xserver-xfree86 but this did not help.
> >
> run fc-cache as root and then try again and see if that cleans it up.
> 
> I have seen similar things lots of times and that has fixed it every time. 
> Overall the new fontconfig I think is buggy.
> 
That was it, thanks. 10 mins earlier I downloaded fontconfig 2.1.90 from
incoming, and it updated the font cache - with an error, and I run fc-cache
by hand and it did it. I don't know if the "older (2.1-15)" fontconfig would
have worked. Now everything works again.

Thanks again!

Sebastian

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unstable upgrade breaks all kde3.1 apps

2003-03-03 Thread Sebastian Bunka
Hi all,

I've got my first serious problem since many years that I cannot track down.
I'm running "unstable", so this can happen :-)

Today (03/03/2003) I did an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and more than 
100 packages were upgraded. meanwhile (I'm running kde3.1) the window
manager was dead, the hd was spinning. I killed X and kdm started to launch
but never came to life, kdm_greeter eats more than 100 MB memory and more
than 60% CPU, so I shut down kdm and tried startx with kde3 with the same
problem, and with icewm also. Only with wmaker it works. Most stuff works
like mozilla xterm, rxvt, lynx, gtk-applications, only any kde app eats
memory and cpu and never appears (for instancce kcalc > 100 MB virtual mem,
and > 65% cpu).

So anyone has a similar problem? Any idea to track this down (library
problem?)?

I've tried to run "nice -n 10 kcalc > xxxfile 2>&1" and only found thousands
of lines where the app is loading every font file ... What the hell is this,
other apps doesn't do that. I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but this
did not help.


thanx

Sebastian



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cdbakeoven

2003-03-03 Thread Bob Underwood
I installed cdbakeoven on my machine this past weekend.  During the 
configuration, it wanted to add my cdburner to fstab as /dev/hdd.  
The burner is already working properly as /dev/scd0.

Is there any advantage to having it listed as /dev/hdd in addition to 
/dev/scd0?  Am I missing something obvious here?

TIA

bob




Re: Krusader for 3.1?

2003-03-03 Thread Michael Knigge
Hi,

> > anybody seen Krusader for KDE 3.1 as a Deb-Package somewhere
> > (preferred for woody)?

> URL for downloading the source ? I'll build a package then.

It is at http://krusader.sourceforge.net

It is a filemanager similar to mc (midnight commander) but as far i 
can see it is still "only" for kde 3.0 and not 3.1... but maybe I'm 
wrong and/or compilation for 3.1 is simple


Bye
  Michael







Re: Krusader for 3.1?

2003-03-03 Thread Michael Stucki
Hi Ralf,

>> anybody seen Krusader for KDE 3.1 as a Deb-Package somewhere
>> (preferred for woody)?

> URL for downloading the source ? I'll build a package then.

Would be great! :-)
http://krusader.sourceforge.net/
http://krusader.sourceforge.net/index.php?nav=down.php

Thanks, Michael




Re: korganizer puzzle -- Ralf's Woody 3.1 to Rob's Sid

2003-03-03 Thread Ralf Nolden
On Montag, 3. März 2003 01:39, Peter Nome wrote:
> I run two sid machines, and updated both to KDE 3.1 using Ralf's Woody
> packages. Once 3.1 became available in sid, I updated one and left the
> other alone to run korganizer.
>
> Now that korganizer is (unofficially) available for sid, I've updated the
> other machines to the sid version. I have a curious problem: all the
> appointments are shifted eight hours when I look at them in the sid
> korganizer.
>
> I've checked the date and time settings on the two and they're identical as
> far as I can see. Has anyone come across this, or know of a workaround?
> Bummer to have to move everything manually...

I don't know which version you use on the sid machines but that seems like 
either a bug or you're using HEAD on sid.  If it's a bug, then please report 
it to bugs.kde.org ASAP.

Ralf
>
> Cheers,
> Peter

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Re: Krusader for 3.1?

2003-03-03 Thread Ralf Nolden
On Montag, 3. März 2003 13:02, Michael Knigge wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> anybody seen Krusader for KDE 3.1 as a Deb-Package somewhere
> (preferred for woody)?

URL for downloading the source ? I'll build a package then.

Ralf
>
>
> Bye
>   Michael

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Krusader for 3.1?

2003-03-03 Thread Michael Knigge
Hi all,

anybody seen Krusader for KDE 3.1 as a Deb-Package somewhere 
(preferred for woody)?


Bye
  Michael







Re: DUH, was: KDE 3.1, sid - TT fonts screwup

2003-03-03 Thread "Robert J. Budzynski"
Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> There was a bug in libfreetype which caused it to screw up reading .gz files. 
>  
> Its fixed in the cvs, not sure if its been fixed in debian.  fc-cache uses 
> libfreetype to get the characteristics out of each font.  I think one of the 
> problems was that it misread the header and sometimes expected a zero 
> terminated string which wasn't necessarily there.
> 

Hmm, maybe.  With the latest version of fontconfig in sid, I think
memory usage of fc-cache maxed at about 250 MB rather than the
previous 500 MB.  Still pretty bad, but not quite as disastrous to my
system.
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Robert J. Budzyński 
Computer Center, Dept. of Physics, Warsaw University, Poland
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