Re: Packaging KDE applications for Debian unstable

2003-04-15 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Tuesday 15 April 2003 04:33, Daniel Stone wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 09:40:34PM +0200, Jaime Robles wrote:
  I have a Debian packaging question.
 
  I am trying to package KLog ( a ham radio logging program for KDE 3.1)
  and i am having BIG problems to package as it do not compile in Debian
  unstable.
 
  I can do it with no problem for debian stable and testing but not in
  unstable. It fails when trying to link the kde libs... and it cannot find
  kled, or klistview or... any other.
 
  No problem with libqt as i use --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3 but i cannot
  find how to compile using KDElibs...

 A few things:
 * --prefix=/usr
 * Make sure you're using gcc3.2.
 * Make sure you have kdelibs4-dev installed.

Use the template for dh_make in kdelibs4-dev.

Ralf

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Re: Woody KDE 3.1.1 Good Now ?

2003-04-15 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Tuesday 15 April 2003 03:16, Nick Boyce wrote:
 On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:05:56 +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
 On Monday 14 April 2003 03:16, Nick Boyce wrote:

 [...]

  I'm just wondering whether the Woody 3.1.1 debs are proving good for
  most people now.

 [...]

  I think Ralf says to resolve Cups problems we must use packages
  from http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/Printing but that will install Samba
  2.2.7a - but I'm using Eloy Paris's Samba 2.2.8a Woody packages - is
  that a problem ?
 
 No, if you're using a samba version higher than in woody and lower than in
 unstable you need to care about security issues only.

 OK - thanks for that.

 (I still don't know why the samba maintainer used a samba alpha snapshot
  in unstable...)

 Well I don't use unstable so it's not an issue for me.  But it's
 apparent there's vastly greater functionality in Samba 3, much of it
 already working.  Maybe the Debian maintainer is hopeful that Samba 3
 and unstable will graduate together.

Being hopeful as a maintainer doesn't help a user. And backports for people 
who rely on certain software functionality occur on many places, so I 
personally consider the samba 3 snapshot a mistake. Providing snapshots is a 
good idea if you want to help stabilize the software, not forcing people to 
use them (which you do if people upgrade to unstable)

Ralf

 Mind that the packages on http://download.kde.org have all recent KDE
  security issues fixed. So if you can do it you should update to 3.1.1a on
 download.kde.org via apt-get.

 Thanks - will do.  I'm still nervous though ... maybe I should take a
 backup first ;-)

 Cheers

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Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 12:36:35AM +0100, R. Rodriguez wrote:
 Hi. I just wanted to know why there are so many multimedia players
 for KDE. Why do exist kaboodle, noatun, kplayer (named in the
 latest kde cvs digest), kmplayer...?? Wouldn't be better just one
 GOOD player? (i'm not saying those ones aren't good... but a joint
 effort could be more powerful i think).

Well, by some accounts, there are also 375 text editors on GNU/Linux. 
Why didn't they start working on a unified editor? Why didn't the vi 
and Emacs developers join forces? Why do we have hundreds of  X window 
managers? ...

Well, they have different purposes, that's why they exist. Ofcourse, 
sometimes unification works ( like the case of KDE CD burning tools), 
but most of the times, it doesn't.

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AW: Packaging KDE applications for Debian unstable

2003-04-15 Thread Sven Kissner
hi jaime,

you may check http://debian.consistencies.net/faq.html
i wrote a pretty small howto on creating debian packages and you'll find
some info on compiling kde-apps also.
maybe this helps..

on reply, please also cc sven[dot]kissner[at]consistencies[dot]net

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 Hello all!
 I have a Debian packaging question.
 
 I am trying to package KLog ( a ham radio logging program for 
 KDE 3.1) and i 
 am having BIG problems to package as it do not compile in 
 Debian unstable.
 
 I can do it with no problem for debian stable and testing but 
 not in unstable.
 It fails when trying to link the kde libs... and it cannot 
 find kled, or 
 klistview or... any other.
 
 No problem with libqt as i use --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3 
 but i cannot find 
 how to compile using KDElibs...
 
 Any idea?
 Thanks!
 
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KOrganizer session management

2003-04-15 Thread Michael Schuerig

If I leave KOrganizer running when exiting KDE, it is restarted by 
session management, when I start KDE the next time. But, for some 
reason, it always opens on the first desktop and with an empty 
calendar.

I don't think this is the intended behavior. Is there something I may be 
doing wrong? Or something misconfigured on my system?

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Re: lisa package

2003-04-15 Thread Anders Ellenshj Andersen
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 01:10, Michael Peddemors wrote:
 On Monday 14 April 2003 15:38, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:
  Why don't we have regular smb browsing? That's all I need.. :(

 Might have missed something.. but doesn't Komba suit your needs? Works

Nope, it sucks. Browsing should be implemented via kio-smb.

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Kde menu.

2003-04-15 Thread Robert Lindgren
Hi All,

Is it possible to configure the ugly but still present windows-key to popup the 
kde-menu with one press?

/Robert




Re: Packaging KDE applications for Debian unstable

2003-04-15 Thread Jaime Robles
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El Martes, 15 de Abril de 2003 08:19, Ralf Nolden escribió:
  A few things:
  * --prefix=/usr
  * Make sure you're using gcc3.2.
  * Make sure you have kdelibs4-dev installed.
 Use the template for dh_make in kdelibs4-dev.
How can i se what you are saying? I mean... the template for dh_make in 
kdelibs4-dev?? I don't know what you mean as i am starting as a DD... O:-)

I have all kdelibs4-dev installed.

A little example of the errors in the compilation process:
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/usr/share/qt3/include/qlayout.h:379: candidates are: void
   QBoxLayout::addWidget(QWidget*, int = 0, int = 0)
klogui.cpp:2033: invalid use of undefined type `struct KLineEdit'
klogui.h:27: forward declaration of `struct KLineEdit'
klogui.cpp:2034: invalid use of undefined type `struct KLineEdit'
klogui.h:27: forward declaration of `struct KLineEdit'
klogui.cpp:2035: no matching function for call to `QVBoxLayout::addWidget(
   KLineEdit*)'
/usr/share/qt3/include/qlayout.h:379: candidates are: void
   QBoxLayout::addWidget(QWidget*, int = 0, int = 0)
klogui.cpp:2040: invalid use of undefined type `struct KListView'
klogui.h:28: forward declaration of `struct KListView'
klogui.cpp:2041: invalid use of undefined type `struct KListView'
klogui.h:28: forward declaration of `struct KListView'
klogui.cpp:2042: invalid use of undefined type `struct KListView'
klogui.h:28: forward declaration of `struct KListView'
klogui.cpp:2043: invalid use of undefined type `struct KListView'
klogui.h:28: forward declaration of `struct KListView'
klogui.cpp:2044: invalid use of undefined type `struct KListView'
klogui.h:28: forward declaration of `struct KListView'
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Thank you very much.
It is NOT an upstream error as i am developing KLog and it compiles with no 
problem in my Debian stable/testing... :-?

Thanks!


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Re: lisa package

2003-04-15 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 00:38 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:
  Also lisa has no option to make it quiet at boot except pointing stdout
  to /dev/null. Not good! Anyway, that output should be shortened a bit and
  it should go to stderr.

 How about this for an error: lisa never finds any hosts on my network so is
 pretty much useless.

 Why don't we have regular smb browsing? That's all I need.. :(

It does find everything here (finde FiSH and SMB ports). Maybe you did not 
edit /etc/lisarc? Or you have a ~/.lisarc?
The default one in the package (but at wrong location) only looks at 
localhost? Actually, the ability to define network devices (like in samba) 
would be smart, especially in a dhcp environment! Also, being able to pin it 
to certain devices would be smart, too.
The version (0.2.3) seems to be serious ;)

Should I do some bug reporting because the init script bug is rather critical. 
But to where? The pid thingie seems to be a upstream problem. Upstream should 
implement a pidfile option and write the pidfile itself.

BTW: the KDE bts is a pain to use. How can I report a bug on lisa there. It 
does not find it!

HS

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Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread David Bishop
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 10:11 am, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
 Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 04:34 schrieb Daniel Stone:
  Noatun is a full-featured, full-blooded media
  player.

 That is surely to be discussed ;)
 Personally, I think noatun is pure bloat and thus extremely slow. Mostly,
 users are much happier with xmms.

Out of the debian box, noatun gives me kicker integration, full keyboard 
support (I am *always* using ctrl-alt-p, c-a-left/right, and c-a-s), a 
standard KDE file dialog to add stuff, and decent performance (when 
artswrapper is suid root).  If you need something more than that (or less), 
then you and I don't listen to music or use our computers that same way at 
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Re: Problems with Mouse on KDE

2003-04-15 Thread Michael Peddemors
On Monday 14 April 2003 11:17, Black Norab wrote:
 I'm working on a notebook and experienced some problems with my
 touchpad. The mouse halts (and reactivates itself after some time) or
 vanishes completely. I had the same problems under Win2K and WinXP but
 by far not that often.
 To get the mouse back I have to kill the xserver or just logout and in
 again.

 This might be a hardware bug but it would be nice to reinitialise the
 mouse without a kde/xserver restart. Is there a way to do this?

 I'm working on Sid with KDE 3.1.1 and the default ps2 driver (is there
 any spezial touchpad driver?)

We are experiencing some problems with this as well, but we have not been able 
to find a ryhme or reason to it as yet.  Using KDM with Debian Stable/KDE 
3.1.1 and running xterminals loose the mouse occasionally, and we have to 
reboot the thin clients to get the mouse back active again..

The only error I haven't yet tracked down that is reported, and not sure if it 
is related, is 
kdecore (KAccel): WARNING: Sym::initQt( 100b ): failed to convert key.
(Would be nice for a time stamp on that one)


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Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 18:35 schrieb David Bishop:
 Out of the debian box, noatun gives me kicker integration, full keyboard
 support (I am *always* using ctrl-alt-p, c-a-left/right, and c-a-s), a
 standard KDE file dialog to add stuff, and decent performance (when
 artswrapper is suid root).  If you need something more than that (or less),
 then you and I don't listen to music or use our computers that same way at
 all. :-)

Me it gives:
$ noatun
mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding
WARNING: Couldn't instanciate artsobject Noatun::Session. (This is normally 
caused by a broken package or compiling kdemultimedia in a --prefix different 
from arts.  It may also be from two conflicting packages, so uninstall every 
arts/artsd package you have installed and try againe.
ERROR: Communication problem with noatun, it probably crashed.

with the following backtrace:
[...]
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
0x4167bb89 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0  0x4167bb89 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x416ef000 in sys_sigabbrev () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x412bf061 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3  0x408c99da in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#4  0x416089d8 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x4005bccd in Engine::Engine () from /usr/lib/libnoatun.so.0
#6  0x4006372f in Player::Player () from /usr/lib/libnoatun.so.0
#7  0x40067f2f in NoatunApp::NoatunApp () from /usr/lib/libnoatun.so.0
#8  0x4001423f in main () from /usr/lib/kde3/noatun.so
#9  0x415f7a51 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6

Yeah, that's how I have noatun in mind ;)

$ dpkg -l noatun
ii  noatun 3.1.1-0woody1  Media player (for video and audio)

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Re: lisa package

2003-04-15 Thread Anders Ellenshj Andersen
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 17:47, Hendrik Sattler wrote:

 It does find everything here (finde FiSH and SMB ports). Maybe you did not
 edit /etc/lisarc? Or you have a ~/.lisarc?

I really have no idea, it is the standart package from unstable. I used the 
guide from KontrolCentre to set it up. It doesn't find anything but itself 
though. It doesn't even see that there is a computer there.

I certainly hope that I don't have to edit yet another configuration file to 
fix it.

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Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread David Bishop
snip error messages

Well, the fact that your install is broken doesn't make noatun bad :-)  I use 
sid, so I can't really help you, but I bet Ralf would appreciate a bug 
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Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 19:50, David Bishop wrote:
 snip error messages

 Well, the fact that your install is broken doesn't make noatun bad :-) 
 I use sid, so I can't really help you, but I bet Ralf would appreciate
 a bug report.

It works with the woody packages as well.
At least it does here :)

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Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 19:50, David Bishop wrote:
 snip error messages

 Well, the fact that your install is broken doesn't make noatun bad
 :-)  I use sid, so I can't really help you, but I bet Ralf would
 appreciate a bug report.

Well, it /is/ kind of weird, though, that almost all installs of 
noatun seem to be broken in some way. Just a few days ago was the 
first time that I was actually able to *just start* noatun without an 
immediate crash or at least orgies of installation and configuration.

I use sid, too, so it seems to work well there. From all that bad past 
experience, I still don't like Noatun because for me it's just the 
Media player that has the crash record on my system. Anyway, that's 
just IMVHO.

Oh, and since I don't need arts anyway (my sound card supports 
multiple parallel sound inputs), I hardly see the point.

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File creation permitions

2003-04-15 Thread Beck Zoltán Gyula
Hi!

  Please send the answares private because I'm not member of the list.
Thanx.

I have installed KDE 3.1 on Debian woody linux. My problem is that if I
create a file in KDE with different applications (ex. openoffice,
konqueror,...) the file will be created with different permissions. I set
the umask in profile, bashrc, environment but it seems the KDE
applications are using an other variable or I don't know what :(( Can
somebody tell me where I can set the kde global variables expectly how I
can te set the file permissions to 660 when I create a file whith an X
application.

  Best regards
Zoltan Beck




troubles with kde 3.1.1 on two systems

2003-04-15 Thread Grant Bierman
Okay, I have two systems here and both have some what different
problems. I've found or at lest managed to get around my font problem
some what, so root is usable enough to access the normal user
accounts...

System 1: kdm box has no readable text and the box scroll off the screen
on both side. Bind type a user name and password just causes kdm reload.
Stoping kdm and logging in as a user on a console then starting kde via
startx -exec startkde does work.

System 2: kdm box (at last!) is readable and right size. Attempts to
access user account fail. trying to do some from console results in
either:
kdeinit error
ICE error
xserver auth error

*sigh* Help?

Using stable/testing with the following extra deb sources:

##
# Blackdown Java
##

deb http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian woody main
non-free

##
# Evolution
##

deb http://ftp.ximian.com/pub/debian woody main

##
# KDE(3) - from kde.org, or mirror, or other
##

deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian stable main
deb http://download.kde.org/stable/koffice-1.2.1/Debian/woody ./

##
# giFTcurs - http://giftcurs.sourceforge.net/
##

deb http://fnord.hemmet.chalmers.se/giftcurs unstable main

##
# gnome2
##

deb
http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody 
gnome2.2/

##
# Mozilla 1.3x for woody
##

deb http://debian.relativ.org/ ./

##
# Multi Media marillat
##

deb http://marillat.free.fr stable main
deb http://marillat.free.fr testing main
#deb http://marillat.free.fr unstable main

##
# people.debian.org 
##

# Sane
deb http://people.debian.org/~aurel32/SANE stable main

# XFree 
deb http://people.debian.org/~blade/woody/i386/ ./
deb http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/$(ARCH)/ ./

##
# SmartCache
##

deb http://home.tiscali.cz:8080/~cz210552/deb/ ./

##
# Offical Debian sources
##

##
# Experimental - might remove 
##

deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental contrib
deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main
deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental non-free

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental contrib
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental non-free


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Compiling kile for kde-3.1.1 - Bug in Qt?

2003-04-15 Thread Florian Rossol
Hi list,

I run a testing system with the kde 3.1.1 packages from
http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian. Now I want to compile
kile
(http://perso.club-internet.fr/pascal.brachet/kile/kile-1.5.tar.gz). I
have the following QT-packages installed:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/kile-1.5$ COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l | grep qt3 | awk '{ print $2 
}' 
libqt3
libqt3-headers
libqt3-mt
libqt3-mt-dev
qt3-apps-dev
qt3-dev-tools
qt3-qtconfig

libqt3-mt-dev is needed for configure. My problem:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~kile-1.5$ make
[...]
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/fr/kile-1.5/kile/gfe'
g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include/kde -I/usr/share/qt3/include 
-I/usr/X11R6/include   -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT  -D_REENTRANT  -Wnon-virtual-dtor 
-Wno-long-long -Wbad-function-cast -Wundef -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE 
-Wcast-align -Wconversion -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new  -c ticsOpData.cpp
In file included from ticsOpData.cpp:26:
ticsOpData.h:29: qtabdlg.h: No such file or directory
ticsOpData.h:30: qlined.h: No such file or directory
ticsOpData.h:31: qradiobt.h: No such file or directory
ticsOpData.h:32: qcombo.h: No such file or directory
ticsOpData.cpp:29: qbttngrp.h: No such file or directory
ticsOpData.cpp:30: qradiobt.h: No such file or directory

The *.h-files are all contained in the libqt3-dev package. But this
package confilcts with libqt3-mt-dev (which has to be installed for
configure to run without errors). What can I do?

Tanks

Florian


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Re: Compiling kile for kde-3.1.1 - Bug in Qt?

2003-04-15 Thread Hasso Tepper
Florian Rossol wrote:
. I have the following QT-packages installed:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/kile-1.5$ COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l | grep qt3 | awk '{
 print $2 }' libqt3
 libqt3-headers
 libqt3-mt
 libqt3-mt-dev
 qt3-apps-dev
 qt3-dev-tools
 qt3-qtconfig

Install libqt3-compat-headers package.

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KDE 3.1.1a sid?

2003-04-15 Thread Volker Schlecht
Hi,

does anyone know what measures should be taken to avoid the
kdegraphics security issue as long as a fixed version is not available
for Sid? i.e. which packages should be uninstalled for the time being?

ciao,
Volker

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Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread R. Rodriguez
El Martes, 15 de Abril de 2003 19:28, Magnus von Koeller escribió:
 Oh, and since I don't need arts anyway (my sound card supports
 multiple parallel sound inputs), I hardly see the point.

Can you explain that to a newbie? :P

By the way, i use orth's cvs debs... and noatun crashes everytime i try to 
close it :P

Regards,

Rafael Rodriguez




Re: KDE media players

2003-04-15 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 07:31:18PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
 Am Dienstag, 15. April 2003 18:35 schrieb David Bishop:
  Out of the debian box, noatun gives me kicker integration, full keyboard
  support (I am *always* using ctrl-alt-p, c-a-left/right, and c-a-s), a
  standard KDE file dialog to add stuff, and decent performance (when
  artswrapper is suid root).  If you need something more than that (or less),
  then you and I don't listen to music or use our computers that same way at
  all. :-)
 
 Me it gives:
 $ noatun
 mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding
 WARNING: Couldn't instanciate artsobject Noatun::Session. (This is normally 
 caused by a broken package or compiling kdemultimedia in a --prefix different 
 from arts.  It may also be from two conflicting packages, so uninstall every 
 arts/artsd package you have installed and try againe.
 ERROR: Communication problem with noatun, it probably crashed.

Try apt-get install kdemultimedia-dev. Must beat calc into fixing this.

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