Applications for KDE 3.2.1 Woody, sorry I meant 3.1.2!!!

2003-06-23 Thread Christof Hurschler
I meand KDE 3.1.2 in this message, sorry.

 Hi,
 
 I've updated to KDE 3.2.1 in Woody and I like it quit a bit.  
 I'd like to
 install kde applications from Woody and am being prevented 
 from doing so by
 the kdelibs3 and qt2 dependencies of the Woody debs.  In 
 priciple I could
 live with this if if I could compile applications for my 
 kdelibs4 and qt3
 setup, but I'm finding this difficult.  I've gotten kb3 to 
 work, but several
 others such as yammi haven't worked.
 
 So what is the best way to get applications for the KDE 3.2.1 Woody
 combination??
 
 If an application is being prevented from being installed 
 because of the
 kdelibs3 and qt2 dependencies, and would otherwise install, 
 is there some
 way to override this?  Would this be a bad idea in general?
 
 Thanks for any help you can give me,
 
 Chris
 
 Dr.-Ing. Christof Hurschler
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 D-30173 Hannover
 
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Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) (library qt-mt) not found.

2003-06-23 Thread Lukasz Lesniak
Hello.

I am using Debian Woody

I have install Qt version 3.2.0b1 for X11
(qt-x11-free-3.2.0b1.tar.gz) from Trolltech. I install this with 
-thread etc.

When I try to ./configure KDE ie. arts, kdelibs I see this 
message:
checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) (library 
qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!

So i put ldconfig | grep qt
and I see
/usr/local/qt/lib
libqt-mt.so.3 - libqt-mt.so.3.2.0

Hmmm, i don't understand this, because 3.2.0 = 3.1.0.

Suggestions:
--with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/
--with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3
and other --with- NOT WORKING

Should I install any devs? And why install for example libqt3-
mt so I compile this qt-mt before in my system ...

luke.






Re: Strange problems with kmail and imap

2003-06-23 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
Am Freitag, 20. Juni 2003 15:05 schrieb Cajus Pollmeier:
 Am Freitag, 20. Juni 2003 14:14 schrieb Randy Kramer:
  On Thursday 19 June 2003 11:40 pm, Joerg Platte wrote:
   I've got some recent problems with the IMAP support in kmail (KMail:
   1.5.2 Debian/sid): Most of the time kmail isn't able to fetch new mails
   from the server but reads old mails without any problems. Restarting
   kmail seems to fix the problem for a few minutes...
  
   Has anybody encountered the same problem?
 
  Maybe, although I've characterized it slightly differently and have a
  different workaround.  As long as I'm in a particular IMAP file, I
  can't get (or maybe can't see) new emails.  I work around the problem by
  switching to a different (small) IMAP file and back to the original, and
  then I can see the files.
 
  There may be some sort of rational reason why things work this way, but
  it is somewhat disappointing.

 Even this isn't working here. I've to exit kmail and start it again to see
 new mails in any of the IMAP folders.

Just adding some more information:

The problem is away, if I disable the autochecking of IMAP accounts. So I see 
two possibilities:

a) IMAP Servers don't let me in once a minute - by configuration
(kmail should place a nice notice in this case...)
b) IO-Slave has problems with regulary pulling mails from the server

Currently looking into a) ...

Cajus




Re: Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) (library qt-mt) not found.

2003-06-23 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 23.Jun 2003 - 11:00:27, Lukasz Lesniak wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I am using Debian Woody
 
 I have install Qt version 3.2.0b1 for X11
 (qt-x11-free-3.2.0b1.tar.gz) from Trolltech. I install this with 
 -thread etc.
 
 When I try to ./configure KDE ie. arts, kdelibs I see this 
 message:
 checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) (library 
 qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
 
 So i put ldconfig | grep qt
 and I see
 /usr/local/qt/lib
 libqt-mt.so.3 - libqt-mt.so.3.2.0
 
 Hmmm, i don't understand this, because 3.2.0 = 3.1.0.
 
 Suggestions:
 --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/
 --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3
 and other --with- NOT WORKING
 
 Should I install any devs? And why install for example libqt3-
 mt so I compile this qt-mt before in my system ...

Did you set QTDIR=/usr/local/qt? Do you have a libqt3 installed with
apt - so you have 2 libqt3's on your system?

If QTDIR doesn't help, you could check the configure script on what it
does to check for QT3.1.0 . Sometimes things are changed (like header
filenames or so) between to releases of qt and then the configure
scripts don't work anymore.

Andreas

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Re: Re: Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) (library qt-mt) not found.

2003-06-23 Thread Lukasz Lesniak
Yes, I set QTDIR correctly and sucessfully compiled Qt.

I think there isn't good idea to install libqt3 with apt-get, 
because libqt3 has version 3.0.3 and will be make problem.
I still don't understand why should/must install libqt, so i 
compile and install new version of it?

dpkg -l | grep qt returns nothing so I haven't any *qt* libs 
installed from .deb ...


Andreas Pakulat [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Did you set QTDIR=/usr/local/qt? Do you have a libqt3 
installed with
apt - so you have 2 libqt3's on your system?

If QTDIR doesn't help, you could check the configure script 
on what it
does to check for QT3.1.0 . Sometimes things are changed 
(like header
filenames or so) between to releases of qt and then the 
configure
scripts don't work anymore.

Andreas





Re: Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) (library qt-mt) not found.

2003-06-23 Thread Todd Collins
QTDIR=/usr/local/qt
KDEDIR=/usr/local/kde
KDEHOME=/home/your user name/.kde
PATH=$PATH:$QTDIR/bin:$KDEDIR/bin
MANPATH=$QTDIR/doc/man:$MANPATH
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$KDEDIR/lib
export QTDIR PATH MANPATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH

make/edit your /home/your user name/.profile to  look  something like this the 
(the qt part anyway). Log out then log back in and check with 'echo $QTDIR'


On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:00:27 +
Lukasz Lesniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello.
 
 I am using Debian Woody
 
 I have install Qt version 3.2.0b1 for X11
 (qt-x11-free-3.2.0b1.tar.gz) from Trolltech. I install this with 
 -thread etc.
 
 When I try to ./configure KDE ie. arts, kdelibs I see this 
 message:
 checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) (library 
 qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
 
 So i put ldconfig | grep qt
 and I see
 /usr/local/qt/lib
 libqt-mt.so.3 - libqt-mt.so.3.2.0
 
 Hmmm, i don't understand this, because 3.2.0 = 3.1.0.
 
 Suggestions:
 --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/
 --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3
 and other --with- NOT WORKING
 
 Should I install any devs? And why install for example libqt3-
 mt so I compile this qt-mt before in my system ...
 
 luke.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Re: Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) (library qt-mt) not found.

2003-06-23 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 23.Jun 2003 - 13:00:38, Lukasz Lesniak wrote:
 Yes, I set QTDIR correctly and sucessfully compiled Qt.
 
 I think there isn't good idea to install libqt3 with apt-get, 
 because libqt3 has version 3.0.3 and will be make problem.

No there isn't and I did not say to do so, but I wanted to know if
you already did an apt-get isntall libqt3

 dpkg -l | grep qt returns nothing so I haven't any *qt* libs 
 installed from .deb ...

That's fine.

I saw another thing in your original post:
--with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/
--with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3

But you said that you installed qt3.2.0b into /usr/local/qt3, so this
should be:
--with-qt-includes=/usr/local/qt3/includes
--with-qt-libraries=/usr/local/qt3/lib

or shorter:
--with-qt-dir=/usr/local/qt3

And if that doesn't help, have a look at the config.log for the line
Checking for Qt and look further down, there will be an error message
explaining what failed. Normally the configure tries to compile a small
program to check if Qt works properly.

Andreas

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Re: Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) (library qt-mt) not found.

2003-06-23 Thread Lukasz Lesniak
Sorry Todd, i mean your answer make no sense. I 
successfully compile  install Qt 3.2.0b1 from source.

I am trying to compile KDE 3.1.2 and this KDE install itself 
in /usr/local/kde.

The problem is in Qt libs.

Thakns, luke.

Todd Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

QTDIR=/usr/local/qt
KDEDIR=/usr/local/kde
KDEHOME=/home/your user name/.kde
PATH=$PATH:$QTDIR/bin:$KDEDIR/bin
MANPATH=$QTDIR/doc/man:$MANPATH
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$KDEDIR/lib
export QTDIR PATH MANPATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH

make/edit your /home/your user name/.profile to  look  
something like this the (the qt part anyway). Log out then log 
back in and check with 'echo $QTDIR'


On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:00:27 +
Lukasz Lesniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello.
 
 I am using Debian Woody
 
 I have install Qt version 3.2.0b1 for X11
 (qt-x11-free-3.2.0b1.tar.gz) from Trolltech. I install this 
with 
 -thread etc.
 
 When I try to ./configure KDE ie. arts, kdelibs I see this 
 message:
 checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) 
(library 
 qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
 
 So i put ldconfig | grep qt
 and I see
 /usr/local/qt/lib
 libqt-mt.so.3 - libqt-mt.so.3.2.0
 
 Hmmm, i don't understand this, because 3.2.0 = 3.1.0.
 
 Suggestions:
 --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/
 --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3
 and other --with- NOT WORKING
 
 Should I install any devs? And why install for example 
libqt3-
 mt so I compile this qt-mt before in my system ...
 
 luke.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Re: Re: Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) (library qt-mt) not found.

2003-06-23 Thread Lukasz Lesniak
I have Qt 3.2.0b1 installed and compiled from source.
The instruction for instalation this version of Qt suggest 
QTDIR=/usr/local/qt
and I have this path to my new Qt.

I red some suggestions from net about Qt and I try 
also ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/local/qt because I have 
there Qt. The same result ...

There is a fragment of config.log, but I can't read this:
PATH: /usr/local/qt/bin
configure: 24697: /usr/local/qt/include/qstyle.h
configure:24803: rm -rf SunWS_cache; g++ -o conftest -
Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wall -pedantic -
W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -
ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-
align -Wconversion -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -
I/usr/local/qt/include -I/usr/X11R6/include  -
DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT  -D_REENTRANT  -L/usr/local/qt/lib -
L/usr/X11R6/lib   conftest.cc  -lqt-mt -lpng -lz -lm -ljpeg -ldl  -
lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE  -lpthread 15
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to 
`FT_Stream_GetShort'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to 
`FT_Stream_ExitFrame'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to 
`FT_Stream_GetLong'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to 
`FT_Stream_Seek'
/usr/local/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to 
`FT_Stream_EnterFrame'
configure:24846: error: Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) (library qt-mt) not 
found. Please check your installation! 


Andreas Pakulat [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On 23.Jun 2003 - 13:00:38, Lukasz Lesniak wrote:
 Yes, I set QTDIR correctly and sucessfully compiled Qt.
 
 I think there isn't good idea to install libqt3 with apt-get, 
 because libqt3 has version 3.0.3 and will be make 
problem.

No there isn't and I did not say to do so, but I wanted to 
know if
you already did an apt-get isntall libqt3

 dpkg -l | grep qt returns nothing so I haven't any *qt* libs 
 installed from .deb ...

That's fine.

I saw another thing in your original post:
--with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/
--with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3

But you said that you installed qt3.2.0b into /usr/local/qt3, 
so this
should be:
--with-qt-includes=/usr/local/qt3/includes
--with-qt-libraries=/usr/local/qt3/lib

or shorter:
--with-qt-dir=/usr/local/qt3

And if that doesn't help, have a look at the config.log for the 
line
Checking for Qt and look further down, there will be an 
error message
explaining what failed. Normally the configure tries to 
compile a small
program to check if Qt works properly.

Andreas

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keyboard layout and xfs-xtt/KDE font problem

2003-06-23 Thread Kurt, Caspar
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hi all,

i have two problems here driving me mad:
since i started OpenOffice (with LANG=de_CH oowriter) this morning my keyboard 
layout is broken. i'd like my US keyboard layout back but all i get is de_CH 
(i guess). setting LANG=en_US does not work (LANG is always C), setting the 
keyboard layout in the control panel does not work (i can switch keyboard 
layouts from the kde keyboard tool in kicker but all that changes is the 
icon. keys remain the same). in console (i.e. without kde) things are ok 
(LANG is C there too) and if i logon as root in kde the layout is ok as well.
i tried renaming ~/.kde to ~/.kde.renamed before loging into kde which fixed 
the problem but obviously made kde forget about my beloved configuration.
what's the point? where in ~/.kde/ do i have to change things to get my us 
layout back?

on the second problem i've been working for 3 weeks now:
i have one linux workstation and one linux server both running debian sid. on 
the workstation i have XFree86 and KDE 3.2.1. on the server i run xfs-xtt. 
i've removed all FontPath lines in XF86Config-4 leaving only 'FontPath
tcp/guineapig:7110' where guineapig is the hostname of the server. i guess 
xfs-xtt is working because X won't start if i comment out this FontPath line.
still i have no fixed fonts in KDE and also other fonts don't seem to be 
working as they should. i tried all the tricks and hints i could find (i.e. 
running fc-cache, reinstalling font packages on the server, comparing config 
files from a working installation at home...) but i could not solve my 
problem. how can i get fonts working with KDE and xfs-xtt?

i'm sure (well at least i hope) someone could help me with this, please. this 
stuff really drives me nuts. konsole is just not usable without readable 
fonts and for each 10 keys i tipe i've got 5 to correct because of this 
different keyboard layout. somebody please help me solve these problems.

suggestions and hints will be greatly appreciated. caspar kurt

ps:
i can't even tell if someone can understand all this angry babbling of mine.
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Re: Strange problems with kmail and imap

2003-06-23 Thread Derek Broughton
From: Joerg Platte [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Am Freitag, 20. Juni 2003 15:20 schrieb Derek Broughton:

  I'm not sure that's not a problem with (or even feature of) the IMAP server
  - I see exactly the same thing accessing my courier-imap server from either
  Outlook Express or Mozilla.  I get new mail counts, but have to leave and
  return to the folder to see the actual mails.

 I didn't upgrade any imap reladed packages on the server side (debian woody)
 and I had no problems a few days ago. So I think my problem isn't an
 incompatible IMAP server.

I wasn't so much responding to your problem as Randy's comment.  I have exactly
the same situation as Randy, on multiple email clients, so in our case I think
it's the IMAP server itself.  In your case, perhaps KMail was doing some special
handling to avoid that, that it no longer does (for instance, since at least one
of the clients I use can see the new message counts, but I can't read the mail
until I change folders and go back, any client that simply closed  reopened the
folder if the mail counts changed would have no trouble).

derek




Removing kstars from kdeedu (uses non-DFSG-free data)

2003-06-23 Thread Ben Burton

See #198499 for a full description of the problem with kstars; it
basically boils down to kstars using non-DFSG-free data.

 Please also notice that Debian currently provides, in the non-free section
 due to this same license issues, some star-data catalogues (Gliese and
 Yale). It might be useful if you break the package into software and data
 and made the data package non-free for the time being.

KStars is a part of the much larger source package kdeedu.  It is highly
desirable for kdeedu to stay in main, and so since kstars depends on
non-DFSG data then what I will do is simply get rid of kstars altogether.

As for redoing kstars as a separate standalone non-free or contrib
package:  I don't have time to deal with complex non-DFSG-free licensing
issues right now and so I'm not going to do this myself.  If anyone else
is interested then you're welcome; you can find all the current kstars
debian files in KDE CVS (kdeedu/debian) in the branch KDE_3_1_BRANCH.

Ben.




kmail and threading (mail header fixup filter)

2003-06-23 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
Hi,

I notice that kmail has problems with In-Reply-To: headers that contain things 
like

In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Marillat's message of 
Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:20:09 +0200)

(instead of rfc2822-compliant msg-id-only in-reply-to headers), and does not 
thread such messages properly. As a temporary fix (because I'm not ready to 
hack kmail): has anybody already written a filter for incoming mail that 
would strip everything but the message id from this mail header? 

I would hook such a beast into procmail and thus get rid of this particular 
problem. Should be easy with formail and sed, or with a bit of perl, but if 
somebody else already has this, it's even easier...

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Re: Re: Re: Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) (library qt-mt) not found.

2003-06-23 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 23.Jun 2003 - 14:48:20, Lukasz Lesniak wrote:
 I have Qt 3.2.0b1 installed and compiled from source.
 The instruction for instalation this version of Qt suggest 
 QTDIR=/usr/local/qt
 and I have this path to my new Qt.
 
 I red some suggestions from net about Qt and I try 
 also ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/local/qt because I have 
 there Qt. The same result ...
 
 There is a fragment of config.log, but I can't read this:
 PATH: /usr/local/qt/bin
 configure: 24697: /usr/local/qt/include/qstyle.h
 configure:24803: rm -rf SunWS_cache; g++ -o conftest -
 Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wall -pedantic -
 W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -
 ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-
 align -Wconversion -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -
 I/usr/local/qt/include -I/usr/X11R6/include  -
 DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT  -D_REENTRANT  -L/usr/local/qt/lib -
 L/usr/X11R6/lib   conftest.cc  -lqt-mt -lpng -lz -lm -ljpeg -ldl  -
 lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE  -lpthread 15
 /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to 
 `FT_Stream_GetShort'
 /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to 
 `FT_Stream_ExitFrame'
 /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to 
 `FT_Stream_GetLong'
 /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to 
 `FT_Stream_Seek'
 /usr/local/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so: undefined reference to 
 `FT_Stream_EnterFrame'
 configure:24846: error: Qt (= Qt 3.1.0) (library qt-mt) not 
 found. Please check your installation! 

These are from freetype, so you configured Qt with -xft (or it did this
by itselft). However the KDE configure script does not know this, and
because of that the -lfreetype option is not included, causing these
undefined references.

First solution:
try a
export LDFLAGS=-lfreetype before the configure of KDE.

second solution:
recompile qt using the -no-xft option with the configure script. This
does not necessarily turn of AA-Fonts, they work here and I don't have
xft-support in QT.

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Re: Applications for KDE 3.2.1 Woody

2003-06-23 Thread Alex
El Domingo, 22 de Junio de 2003 20:09, Christof Hurschler escribió:
 So what is the best way to get applications for the KDE 3.2.1 Woody
 combination??

First of all, remember that kde 3.2 will be released in after some months:
http://dot.kde.org/1055858793/

The latest stable version is 3.1.2.

Second, I think the best way for getting kde applications, is using debian 
packages. Debian packages for Debian 3.0 + kde updates, are not very common 
(outside download.kde.org), but building that debs, can be quite easy. In 
kde's CVS, all packages have a debian directory, so in many cases, building a 
package can be done only running dpkg-builpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc.

I suggest you trying to build your own debian packages, cause is the cleanest 
solution. Run apt-get install maint-guide, and give a look at that document.

Another solution, is installing them in your home directory, using the 
sources. That can be done, using ./configure --prefix=$HOME/local, and 
fixing KDEDIRS environment value properly, por example:
export KDEDIRS=$KDEDIRS:$HOME/local

I'm using that two solutions for having the latest kde applications on my 
Woody machines. The problems you described, are conflicts between libraries, 
so I think that those techniques are the best choice.

Best regards.

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Re: KDE on startup

2003-06-23 Thread Jarno Elonen
 What do I need to configure so that the KDE logon screen opens on boot
 instead of the bash logon screen and then having to type startx?

Install kdm.

- Jarno




Re: KDE on startup

2003-06-23 Thread James Michael Greenhalgh
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On June 23, 2003 13:33, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
 What do I need to configure so that the KDE logon screen opens on boot
 instead of the bash logon screen and then having to type startx?

apt-get install kdm
if you already have it installed, then run dpkg-reconfigure kdm

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Re: KDE on startup

2003-06-23 Thread Alex
El Lunes, 23 de Junio de 2003 19:33, Curtis Vaughan escribió:
 What do I need to configure so that the KDE logon screen opens on boot
 instead of the bash logon screen and then having to type startx?

Start kdm at boottime.

Best regards,
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Re: KDE on startup

2003-06-23 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 23 Jun 2003 18:33, Curtis Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What do I need to configure so that the KDE logon screen opens on
 boot instead of the bash logon screen and then having to type startx?

You need to install a 'display manager'. This will give you a graphical 
login screen. As you are asking on a Debian KDE list, I suspect that 
you want the KDE Display Manager, kdm.

As root, run:

  apt-get install kdm

Regards,

Paul Cupis
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AW: Applications for KDE 3.2.1 Woody

2003-06-23 Thread Christof Hurschler
I used the instructions from the Install link in http://kde.org/download/

basically

apt-get install kdelibs4
apt-get install kdebase 

but please read the instructions for yourself, I'm light-years from an
expert on this stuff.

Chris

Dr.-Ing. Christof Hurschler
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 -Ursprungliche Nachricht-
 Von: Curtis Vaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Gesendet: Montag, 23. Juni 2003 19:05
 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff: Re: Applications for KDE 3.2.1 Woody


 If Imay ask, I tried to update to KDE 3, but was unsuccesful.
  Exactly
 how did you do that?  (NB. I would like to use apt-get install or
 dselect as opposed to downloading everything, say, from KDE's site.

 Curtis

 Christof Hurschler wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I've updated to KDE 3.2.1 in Woody and I like it quit a bit.
  I'd like to
 install kde applications from Woody and am being prevented
 from doing so by
 the kdelibs3 and qt2 dependencies of the Woody debs.  In
 priciple I could
 live with this if if I could compile applications for my
 kdelibs4 and qt3
 setup, but I'm finding this difficult.  I've gotten kb3 to
 work, but several
 others such as yammi haven't worked.
 
 So what is the best way to get applications for the KDE 3.2.1 Woody
 combination??
 
 If an application is being prevented from being installed
 because of the
 kdelibs3 and qt2 dependencies, and would otherwise install,
 is there some
 way to override this?  Would this be a bad idea in general?
 
 Thanks for any help you can give me,
 
 Chris
 
 
 







Re: KDM hangs

2003-06-23 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 15:32, Peter Clark wrote:
   I'm having a minor issue with KDM on my shiny new laptop; I've got it 
 set up 
 so that I loads on both vt7 and vt8. /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers looks like this:
 
 :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -dpi 75 -nolisten tcp vt7
 :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 -dpi 75 -nolisten tcp vt8

Why don't you use

:0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7
:1 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt8
:2 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :2 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt9
:3 local reserve /usr/X11R6/bin/X :3 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt10

This start Xserver on vt8...vt10 when needed.  With these 'reserved'
entries K-menu and screen saver have a new 'Start new session' entry
that start x-server on vt8 then vt9 ...

Achim
 
 However, whenever I start the laptop, kdm stops loading on one vt until I 
 switch over to the other. Only then will both load. When I say, stops 
 loading, I mean that the black and white fuzz appears, plus the mouse 
 cursor, and then...nothing. Once I switch over, then the wallpaper and login 
 window appear. My desktop has the same setup, but doesn't have an problem 
 loading them separately. (Although it won't start a kdm session until I 
 switch over to the other vt, at which point I have to wait for it to load 
 before continueing. It would be nice if it loaded in the background, but 
 first things first.) Is there anything I'm missing here?
   :Peter
 
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Re: Applications for KDE 3.1.2

2003-06-23 Thread Christof Hurschler
Alex wrote:

  Second, I think the best way for getting kde applications, is
 using debian
 packages. Debian packages for Debian 3.0 + kde updates, are
 not very common
 (outside download.kde.org), but building that debs, can be
 quite easy. In
 kde's CVS, all packages have a debian directory, so in many
 cases, building a
 package can be done only running dpkg-builpackage -rfakeroot
 -us -uc.

of course if there is a Debian package I would install it, I was thinking
more of applications for which there isn't a debian package.  I haven't
looked at CVS yet, and don't know anything about it other than some of the
applications I was looking at at apps.kde.com don't have cvs directories.

I've tried compiling and installing several applications, i.e. reading the
README and INSTALL files and running ./configure etc., but I'm having
trouble getting some applications to compile.  I got gwenview and k3b to
work, but I'm now having trouble with arson for instance.

I get this when I make.  Any idea what I'm missing here?

Script started on Mon Jun 23 20:18:51 2003
k6:/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3# make
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3'
Making all in doc
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/doc'
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/doc'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/doc'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/doc'
Making all in po
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/po'
rm -f de.gmo; : -o de.gmo ./de.po
test ! -f de.gmo || touch de.gmo
rm -f es.gmo; : -o es.gmo ./es.po
test ! -f es.gmo || touch es.gmo
rm -f sv.gmo; : -o sv.gmo ./sv.po
test ! -f sv.gmo || touch sv.gmo
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/po'
Making all in src
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/src'
Making all in .
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/src'
source='audiodoc.cpp' object='audiodoc.o' libtool=no \
depfile='.deps/audiodoc.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/audiodoc.TPo' \
depmode=gcc /bin/sh ../admin/depcomp \
g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/kde -I/usr/share/qt3/include
 -I/usr/X11R6/include   -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT  -D_REENTRANT  -pipe -O2 -DNDEBU
G -fno-check-new  -c -o audiodoc.o `test -f audiodoc.cpp || echo
'./'`audiodoc.cpp
In file included from audiodoc.cpp:34:
audiowriter.h:22: qlist.h: No such file or directory
make[3]: *** [audiodoc.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/src'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3'
make: *** [all] Error 2
k6:/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3# exit
Script done on Mon Jun 23 20:20:20 2003

 I suggest you trying to build your own debian packages, cause
 is the cleanest
 solution. Run apt-get install maint-guide, and give a look at
 that document.

 Another solution, is installing them in your home directory,
 using the
 sources. That can be done, using ./configure
 --prefix=$HOME/local, and
 fixing KDEDIRS environment value properly, por example:
 export KDEDIRS=$KDEDIRS:$HOME/local

 I'm using that two solutions for having the latest kde
 applications on my
 Woody machines. The problems you described, are conflicts
 between libraries,
 so I think that those techniques are the best choice.

 Best regards.

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Konqueror 3.1.2 problem with JavaScript

2003-06-23 Thread Frank Murphy

Since I apt-getted up to 3.1.2 a week ago, Konqueror has trouble with 
JavaScript. Yahoo! Mail thinks I don't have JavaScript, as do allmusic.com 
and raiffeisen.ch. The best message I've seen is here:

https://tb2.raiffeisendirect.ch/

  Your browser doesn't support JavaScript, or it's currently disabled.

I've tried messing with the Settings, but to no avail. I'm on PPC.

Please CC me,

Frank




Re: Applications for KDE 3.1.2

2003-06-23 Thread David Pye
Simple answer. They're obsolete.

The app you're compiling wants qlist.h - nowadays its qlistview.h and 
qlistbox.h.

You *may* be able to get round it by installing libqt3-compat-headers IIRC..

Regards,

David

On Monday 23 June 2003 20:31, Christof Hurschler wrote:
 Alex wrote:
   Second, I think the best way for getting kde applications, is
 
  using debian
  packages. Debian packages for Debian 3.0 + kde updates, are
  not very common
  (outside download.kde.org), but building that debs, can be
  quite easy. In
  kde's CVS, all packages have a debian directory, so in many
  cases, building a
  package can be done only running dpkg-builpackage -rfakeroot
  -us -uc.

 of course if there is a Debian package I would install it, I was thinking
 more of applications for which there isn't a debian package.  I haven't
 looked at CVS yet, and don't know anything about it other than some of the
 applications I was looking at at apps.kde.com don't have cvs directories.

 I've tried compiling and installing several applications, i.e. reading the
 README and INSTALL files and running ./configure etc., but I'm having
 trouble getting some applications to compile.  I got gwenview and k3b to
 work, but I'm now having trouble with arson for instance.

 I get this when I make.  Any idea what I'm missing here?

 Script started on Mon Jun 23 20:18:51 2003
 k6:/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3# make
 make  all-recursive
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3'
 Making all in doc
 make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/doc'
 make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/doc'
 make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/doc'
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/doc'
 Making all in po
 make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/po'
 rm -f de.gmo; : -o de.gmo ./de.po
 test ! -f de.gmo || touch de.gmo
 rm -f es.gmo; : -o es.gmo ./es.po
 test ! -f es.gmo || touch es.gmo
 rm -f sv.gmo; : -o sv.gmo ./sv.po
 test ! -f sv.gmo || touch sv.gmo
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/po'
 Making all in src
 make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/src'
 Making all in .
 make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/src'
 source='audiodoc.cpp' object='audiodoc.o' libtool=no \
 depfile='.deps/audiodoc.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/audiodoc.TPo' \
 depmode=gcc /bin/sh ../admin/depcomp \
 g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/kde
 -I/usr/share/qt3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include   -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT 
 -D_REENTRANT  -pipe -O2 -DNDEBU G -fno-check-new  -c -o audiodoc.o `test -f
 audiodoc.cpp || echo
 './'`audiodoc.cpp
 In file included from audiodoc.cpp:34:
 audiowriter.h:22: qlist.h: No such file or directory
 make[3]: *** [audiodoc.o] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/src'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/src'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3'
 make: *** [all] Error 2
 k6:/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3# exit
 Script done on Mon Jun 23 20:20:20 2003

  I suggest you trying to build your own debian packages, cause
  is the cleanest
  solution. Run apt-get install maint-guide, and give a look at
  that document.
 
  Another solution, is installing them in your home directory,
  using the
  sources. That can be done, using ./configure
  --prefix=$HOME/local, and
  fixing KDEDIRS environment value properly, por example:
  export KDEDIRS=$KDEDIRS:$HOME/local
 
  I'm using that two solutions for having the latest kde
  applications on my
  Woody machines. The problems you described, are conflicts
  between libraries,
  so I think that those techniques are the best choice.
 
  Best regards.
 
  --
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  http://lacurva.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Applications for KDE 3.1.2

2003-06-23 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 23 Jun 2003 20:31, Christof Hurschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 I get this when I make.  Any idea what I'm missing here?

[snip]

 make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/arson-0.9.7-kde3/src'
 source='audiodoc.cpp' object='audiodoc.o' libtool=no \
 depfile='.deps/audiodoc.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/audiodoc.TPo' \
 depmode=gcc /bin/sh ../admin/depcomp \
 g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/kde
 -I/usr/share/qt3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include   -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT 
 -D_REENTRANT  -pipe -O2 -DNDEBU G -fno-check-new  -c -o audiodoc.o
 `test -f audiodoc.cpp || echo './'`audiodoc.cpp
 In file included from audiodoc.cpp:34:
 audiowriter.h:22: qlist.h: No such file or directory
 make[3]: *** [audiodoc.o] Error 1

Do you have libqt3-compat-headers installed?

You might like to download the sid source package for arson and compile 
it on your Woody machine using debuild or dpkg-buildpackage.

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Re: Konqueror 3.1.2 problem with JavaScript

2003-06-23 Thread Roy Bixler
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:52:39PM +0200, Frank Murphy wrote:
 Since I apt-getted up to 3.1.2 a week ago, Konqueror has trouble with 
 JavaScript. Yahoo! Mail thinks I don't have JavaScript, as do allmusic.com 
 and raiffeisen.ch.

It works for me in Konqueror 3.1.2.  I am running Debian unstable on a
sparc64-based system.

 The best message I've seen is here:
 
 https://tb2.raiffeisendirect.ch/
 
   Your browser doesn't support JavaScript, or it's currently disabled.

I just tried that URL and got the same false message.  I know that
Konqueror supports Javascript and I do have it enabled.  They probably
are using some bogus logic like if it isn't in our list of recognised
browsers, then it must not be a modern browser capable of Javascript.

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