Re: (forw) kde-common/admin
On Sunday 07 September 2003 02:40, Ben Burton wrote: CVS commit by coolo: Ralf says Debian packagers want to build without final for the time beeing Well, s/Debian packagers/Ralf/. ;-) Anyway, I'll just pop them back into my debian/rules when we come to the pont of packaging HEAD for debian. I don't like the idea of building with --enable-final on my (slow) system and then without --enable-final for everyone else (including buildds, etc). And of course where there are compile errors I'll fix the sources as I've been happily doing to date, or where it's not a simple fix (e.g., in parts of kommander where slots is used as variables throughout some files) I'll add KDE_OPTIONS=nofinal to the appropriate Makefile.ams, which other users trying to use --enable-final will find necessary anyway. Well, the thing is that we're having --enable-final in the dh-make template then. Many apps don't work with that so it's even more confusing for someone who doesn't know how to switch that option off. And, as mentioned, it is not officially supported by KDE. Therefore I'd rather like to add --enable-final as a DEB_BUILD_OPTION in the debian/rules files in the CVS modules rather than having it enabled globally. Enabling it again when HEAD gets packaged is ok with me but for now until december it doesn't make much sense to have it enabled anyway. Ralf Ben. :) -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org pgpQJHNUTCMA6.pgp Description: signature
Re: (forw) kde-common/admin
Therefore I'd rather like to add --enable-final as a DEB_BUILD_OPTION in the debian/rules files in the CVS modules rather than having it enabled globally. Sure, but for the modules I maintain I'll be using --enable-final by default in debian/rules, since (i) as the maintainer I want my build environment to be the same as used by others (including buildds, etc), (ii) I have an old machine and so --enable-final makes a difference to me, and (iii) it won't break anything since when I add --enable-final I'll be patching the sources to remove any resulting errors. Moreover, I'd suggest that we use --enable-final by default across all kde*/debian/rules files, since (i) we as the maintainers of formal KDE modules will know what we're doing, (ii) we all have commit permissions and so will be able to patch any compile errors, and (iii) passing --enable-final in debian/rules won't propagate to 3rd-party apps either through admin/ or through the dh_make template. This solution is most pleasing to me since it satisfies my desire for an --enable-final KDE build and yet resolves the 3rd-party app / 3rd-party packager problem that you have identified. Enabling it again when HEAD gets packaged is ok with me but for now until december it doesn't make much sense to have it enabled anyway. Sure, I won't even be looking at it until we get to packaging HEAD. I probably wouldn't even be arguing so much now, except that I anticipate that when I do prepare KDE 3.2 packages and add --enable-final to debian/rules, there will be arguments about inconsistencies between defaults in different modules. In other news, koffice-i18n has just been accepted, so it should be good for sarge. b. :)
Re: (forw) kde-common/admin
On Sunday 07 September 2003 10:54, Ben Burton wrote: Therefore I'd rather like to add --enable-final as a DEB_BUILD_OPTION in the debian/rules files in the CVS modules rather than having it enabled globally. Sure, but for the modules I maintain I'll be using --enable-final by default in debian/rules, since (i) as the maintainer I want my build environment to be the same as used by others (including buildds, etc), (ii) I have an old machine and so --enable-final makes a difference to me, and (iii) it won't break anything since when I add --enable-final I'll be patching the sources to remove any resulting errors. Moreover, I'd suggest that we use --enable-final by default across all kde*/debian/rules files, since (i) we as the maintainers of formal KDE modules will know what we're doing, (ii) we all have commit permissions and so will be able to patch any compile errors, and (iii) passing --enable-final in debian/rules won't propagate to 3rd-party apps either through admin/ or through the dh_make template. This solution is most pleasing to me since it satisfies my desire for an --enable-final KDE build and yet resolves the 3rd-party app / 3rd-party packager problem that you have identified. Enabling it again when HEAD gets packaged is ok with me but for now until december it doesn't make much sense to have it enabled anyway. Sure, I won't even be looking at it until we get to packaging HEAD. I probably wouldn't even be arguing so much now, except that I anticipate that when I do prepare KDE 3.2 packages and add --enable-final to debian/rules, there will be arguments about inconsistencies between defaults in different modules. Sure. That was the sense behind removing it from debianrules - add it to debian/rules directly across the KDE modules :-) In other news, koffice-i18n has just been accepted, so it should be good for sarge. Cool :-) Ralf b. :) -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org pgppjETSx1DM7.pgp Description: signature
libkdeinit_dcopserver.so needed in libs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have found out from users that libkdeinit_dcopserver.so is needed in kdelibs4 ... I failed to notice myself as it was in the kdelibs4-dev package. Was this file not supposed to be needed with libs? dcopserver: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeinit_dcopserver.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - -James - -- James Michael Greenhalgh [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://opendoorsoftware.com open minds providing open source solutions -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/W0dZgZMynI5GLOURApPVAJ9uoSvqrjsyGDxnmneLhdXNJ0QgYgCeKRqf brH0LB1vutnD2pzfbnbEiqc= =KHq0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: libkdeinit_dcopserver.so needed in libs
On Sunday 07 September 2003 16:57, James Michael Greenhalgh wrote: Hi, I have found out from users that libkdeinit_dcopserver.so is needed in kdelibs4 ... I failed to notice myself as it was in the kdelibs4-dev package. Was this file not supposed to be needed with libs? No, it's supposed to be in kdelibs-bin because libs should only contain the versioned libraries. I'm not sure about the /usr/lib/kde3 files yet though. the libkdeinit_ files are basically programs so dfaure suggested to put them into a kdelibs-bin package. Ralf dcopserver: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeinit_dcopserver.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory -James -- James Michael Greenhalgh [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://opendoorsoftware.com open minds providing open source solutions -- We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org pgpvGypPyZKuP.pgp Description: signature
Re: (forw) kde-common/admin
On Sep 07, 2003 at 12:55, Ralf Nolden praised the llamas by saying: On Sunday 07 September 2003 13:38, David Pashley wrote: On Sep 07, 2003 at 09:27, Ralf Nolden praised the llamas by saying: Therefore I'd rather like to add --enable-final as a DEB_BUILD_OPTION in the debian/rules files in the CVS modules rather than having it enabled globally. Enabling it again when HEAD gets packaged is ok with me but for now until december it doesn't make much sense to have it enabled anyway. Right then, will you produce a patch for debianrules to switch the logic, or shall I do it? BTW at least me and calc have commit permission for debianrules. If you would do that I could concentrate on fixing the install files and the conflicts. HEAD is quite messy especially since apps were added and some removed (due to Neil's taking away of stuff). Done. -- David Pashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. pgp50aUhVGwzL.pgp Description: PGP signature
kdemultimedia in sid
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, As I'm sure some of you are aware, kdemultimedia in sid has not been installable for over a week. This appears to be due to an NMU from 27th August[1]. The NMU failed to compile on all archs, apparently due to trying to include some kernel-headers. However, as the kdemultimedia meta-package was dinstall'd, users of the sid packages are unable to install kdemultimedia. Chris, when are you planning to do your next upload? Previously, you suggested 20030901, but obviously that has passed. Thanks, Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAj9bhekACgkQIzuKV+SHX/m5cACdFxNqZqGOmlcRXKU+j6uvL/k7 ZYQAn3R1E8L4Ycg0JbmxYDQWnnMipWCB =0dN0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KMail Filter Help Needed
On Sunday 07 September 2003 03:38, Robert Tilley wrote: Included is a PNG snapshot of my KMail Filter Rules window. Why are there More and Fewer buttons in the Actions area while there are the same buttons are lacking in the Rules area? My guess.. Your fonts are too big and there is not enough room inside the panel for them. All the individual panels are fighting the window for space and because the fonts are so big, there is not enough to go around. The panels are then sized down with the result that only parts of them are able to be shown. There is not enough room for the more/less buttons so they are thrown out. Anders -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.1.3 on Debian GNU/Linux
Re: KMail Filter Help Needed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 07 September 2003 09:25, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 07 September 2003 03:38, Robert Tilley wrote: Included is a PNG snapshot of my KMail Filter Rules window. Why are there More and Fewer buttons in the Actions area while there are the same buttons are lacking in the Rules area? My guess.. Your fonts are too big and there is not enough room inside the panel for them. All the individual panels are fighting the window for space and because the fonts are so big, there is not enough to go around. The panels are then sized down with the result that only parts of them are able to be shown. There is not enough room for the more/less buttons so they are thrown out. I can confirm the missing More/Fewer buttons in this dialog, and this is with smaller fonts than the OP. Resizing the dialog does not affect the height of the 'rules' panel. Filling both of the available 'rules' does not cause a 'more' button to appear. Debian/sid. Kmail 1.5.3. ii kmail 3.1.3-1KDE Email client Regards, Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAj9bDLcACgkQIzuKV+SHX/mruwCfbVAXjU+QPmgDASqJJuVC7M3M wuQAnRj6GSEvLfylzXk997nHPDRXplzi =eQV7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KMail Filter Help Needed
On Sunday 07 September 2003 12:47, Paul Cupis wrote: [KMail Filter settings] I can confirm the missing More/Fewer buttons in this dialog, and this is with smaller fonts than the OP. Resizing the dialog does not affect the height of the 'rules' panel. Filling both of the available 'rules' does not cause a 'more' button to appear. I see the same for the first selected filter rule. If I switch to another rule, the buttons are displayed correctly. Also, when I switch back to the first rule, the buttons are displayed. Michael -- Michael Schuerig They tell you that the darkness mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a blessing in disguise. http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ --Janis Ian, From Me To You
Re: KDM/X authorization problems on a laptop
On Sunday 07 September 2003 01:02, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: most network connections give a shit about the user they come from, if he cannot prove who he is. ;) Heh, I would consider that reasonable, yes! :-) export XAUTHORITY=~kjetil/.Xauthority Hm, but... I can't understand what my regular user would have to do with this... I mean, I'm thrown out without being able to log in There were no processes running as kjetil when I tried this... Or, rather, I can do it without any processes running. If I try to log in, there'll be three kdeinit-processes running afterwards, but if I just watch the greeting come up (assuming that is what the login-screen is called?), hit ctrl+alt+F1, log in as root and go xhost + , I'm still refused a connection to the server, allthough ps aux says things like root 311 1.6 4.9 22248 12192 ? S 12:55 0:03 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7 -auth /var/lib/kdm/A:0-crWk72 i don't expect this to help with the real problem, though. Yeah I'm probably going in the wrong direction, but I haven't got a clue here... Anyway, Thomas Ritter mentioned that ssh-agent was used by kdm in a kind, private mail. I note that on my workstation, ssh-agent is indeed running, but not on the laptop. It could be something here...? The question is if it is a cause or a consequence. Since I still don't know any way to get a connection to the x-server... I've been fiddling some more, trying to log in and set variables and start with startx, and I'm seeing server crashes at about the same place in the splash screen progress as I'm seeing the other bomb... Perhaps just after Initializing Peripherals finishes. I get Fatal server error: Caught signal 4. Server aborting. Bad sign, huh? BTW, would upgrading to unstable (or testing) be smart...? I'm not sure I can find the bandwidth to do it today, but I'm considering it... Cheers, Kjetil -- Kjetil Kjernsmo Astrophysicist/IT Consultant/Skeptic/Ski-orienteer/Orienteer/Mountaineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/OpenPGP KeyID: 6A6A0BBC
Re: KDM/X authorization problems on a laptop
Uhm, sorry to follow up on myself, but I got an idea from Wolfgang Mader off-list (thanks, Wolfgang), that helped me get a bit further, but we couldn't get all the way. So I'm hoping this rings some bells... :-) Basically, what he suggested was that I could set export DISPLAY=localhost:1 and then start a new X server, X :1. That works. From there, I could start an xterm, then startkde. The splash screen displays the progress as usual, mostly like I've previously described: On Sunday 07 September 2003 13:21, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: Perhaps just after Initializing Peripherals finishes. I get Fatal server error: Caught signal 4. Server aborting. Bad sign, huh? and goes boom, signal 4, and X crashes... It may be just as it starts the WM, after it has finished initializing the peripherals. Not to be dissuaded, I just started X again, KDE comes up, and apparently, everything is normal Yep, so I have KDE up and running fine, but obviously, going through the whole workaround to start it is a bit bothersome, so it would be great to figure it out Could it be two different, but perhaps slightly dependent things that bite me? The first thing is the authorization. That can be overcome by starting the X server itself as the user who will run it. The second, and probably more important thing, is that X crashes... If this can be overcome by restarting the X server, it can't be that bad, can it...? Cheers, Kjetil -- Kjetil Kjernsmo Astrophysicist/IT Consultant/Skeptic/Ski-orienteer/Orienteer/Mountaineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/OpenPGP KeyID: 6A6A0BBC
Timezones trouble
KDE: 3.1.3 My clock seems to be having trouble figuring out what timezone I'm in. It should set itself to Chicago or Menominee, and it does, for a second, and then it changes to some other timezone. It still says Chicago or Menominee, whichever I set it to, but it's nine hours ahead. I have no idea what I could have done to change this. Rene -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Re: Timezones trouble
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 09:25:04AM -0500, Rene Horn wrote: KDE: 3.1.3 My clock seems to be having trouble figuring out what timezone I'm in. It should set itself to Chicago or Menominee, and it does, for a second, and then it changes to some other timezone. It still says Chicago or Menominee, whichever I set it to, but it's nine hours ahead. I have no idea what I could have done to change this. Rene Sorry, I meant eleven hours ahead, not nine. Rene -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Re: Timezones trouble
On Sunday 07 September 2003 10:25 am, Rene Horn wrote: KDE: 3.1.3 My clock seems to be having trouble figuring out what timezone I'm in. It should set itself to Chicago or Menominee, and it does, for a second, and then it changes to some other timezone. It still says Chicago or Menominee, whichever I set it to, but it's nine hours ahead. I have no idea what I could have done to change this. Rene -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org How are you setting the time zone? The context menu option Show Timezone is for temporarily having the clock show a different time zone. You should normally have this set to Local Timezone. To actually set your timezone, you need to go to Adjust Date Time There is an option in the dialog that comes up for setting your timezone. Josh
acrobat reader hotkeys dont work in kde
Hello ML, the hotkeys of the Acrobat Reader doesn't work in KDE (in a failsafe = xterm-only X11 session they do). Google and bugs.kde.org didn't give me any hint how to solve this problem. Is there anyone here who can? Thank you, Tobias -- /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML mail \ / No proprietary formats in attachments without request X i.e. *NO* WORD, POWERPOINT or EXCEL documents / \ Respect Open Standards http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html http://www.goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html Registered Linux User #293344
RE: Instaling KDE 3
I'm trying to install kde 3.1.3 from : deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.3/Debian stable main but when I do : apt-get install kdebase . system gave me a lot of dependencies an I cannot install kde. Some support please. Thks n brgds Miguel -Mensaje original- De: Slaven Peles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: domingo, 24 de agosto de 2003 22:54 Para: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: Instaling KDE 3 On August 24, 2003 02:11, Andreas Pakulat wrote: On 24.Aug 2003 - 13:14:27, Miguel Corbella wrote: Hi I want to install my Debian 3 and I want to update it to Kde 3.1.3. Which is the easier way to install Kde 3.1.3 ? It is better don't install kde included on the debian cd's and install after via internet the kde 3.1.3 ... hope yr help. The best way is to not install KDE2 from the CD's and to first get the deb-Line for KDE3 set up. Then install by using the kdebase, kdelibs4, ... Packages, not the kde-Metapackage, as that one depends on KDE2! If KDE2 is installed it has to be removed completely (with --purge), to guarantee a problem free install of KDE3. Andreas What I did immediately after installing woody was: 0. Use default sources from Debian installer. 1. Select [X] and [desktop] categories in tasksel and then skip dselect (and answer all questions after that). 2. apt-get remove --purge libqt2 libarts libmimelib 3. Add a line like this to /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/ woody main 4. Then, do something like this: apt-get install kdelibs4 kdm kdebase After this you should be able to apt-get install any other KDE package you need easily. This may not be the most elegant way to have KDE3 on woody, but in my experience it requires minimal number of keys pressed from the first boot to having usable KDE3 desktop ;-). Good luck, Slaven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Instaling KDE 3
My bad. Before point 4 below, you should do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. That should upgrade bash, xine and maybe a couple of other packages. After that you should be ok. If that doesn't solve your problem please send error messages you are geting. Good luck, Slaven On September 7, 2003 15:01, Miguel Corbella wrote: I'm trying to install kde 3.1.3 from : deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.3/Debian stable main but when I do : apt-get install kdebase . system gave me a lot of dependencies an I cannot install kde. Some support please. Thks n brgds Miguel What I did immediately after installing woody was: 0. Use default sources from Debian installer. 1. Select [X] and [desktop] categories in tasksel and then skip dselect (and answer all questions after that). 2. apt-get remove --purge libqt2 libarts libmimelib 3. Add a line like this to /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/ woody main 4. Then, do something like this: apt-get install kdelibs4 kdm kdebase After this you should be able to apt-get install any other KDE package you need easily. This may not be the most elegant way to have KDE3 on woody, but in my experience it requires minimal number of keys pressed from the first boot to having usable KDE3 desktop ;-). Good luck, Slaven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Instaling KDE 3
El Domingo, 7 de Septiembre de 2003 21:01, Miguel Corbella escribió: I'm trying to install kde 3.1.3 from : deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.3/Debian stable main but when I do : apt-get install kdebase . system gave me a lot of dependencies an I cannot install kde. I'm pretty sure you're looking for this: http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1828 Best regards. PS: If you don't post the errors, it's _impossible_ to help. Copy and paste the errors, please. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID 0xAA8D2A01 http://lacurva.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dead? No excuse for laying off work.
RE: Instaling KDE 3
When I tried to do : apt-get install kdebase I got following error : Depends : Konsole (=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20030821+orth) but it is not going to be installed This happends with a lot of packages not only with konsole. I don't now how to solve. Thks n brgds Miguel -Mensaje original- De: Alejandro Exojo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: domingo, 07 de septiembre de 2003 22:43 Para: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: Instaling KDE 3 El Domingo, 7 de Septiembre de 2003 21:01, Miguel Corbella escribió: I'm trying to install kde 3.1.3 from : deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.3/Debian stable main but when I do : apt-get install kdebase . system gave me a lot of dependencies an I cannot install kde. I'm pretty sure you're looking for this: http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1828 Best regards. PS: If you don't post the errors, it's _impossible_ to help. Copy and paste the errors, please. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID 0xAA8D2A01 http://lacurva.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dead? No excuse for laying off work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Timezones trouble
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 02:02:24PM -0400, Josh Metzler wrote: How are you setting the time zone? The context menu option Show Timezone is for temporarily having the clock show a different time zone. You should normally have this set to Local Timezone. To actually set your timezone, you need to go to Adjust Date Time There is an option in the dialog that comes up for setting your timezone. Josh That didn't do it. date give me the correct time. Whenever I go into Adjust Date Time..., it's always set to MAWT (Mawson, Antarctica.) I can reset it to the correct timezone and click Ok, but when I go back into it, it's set to MAWT again, and still won't show the correct timezone. Rene -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Re: Instaling KDE 3
On 08.Sep 2003 - 00:37:21, Miguel Corbella wrote: When I tried to do : apt-get install kdebase I got following error : Depends : Konsole (=4:3.2.0-0+cvs20030821+orth) but it is not going to be installed This does not come from ftp.kde.org/download/stable/3.1.3/Debian, this is a kdebase package for a CVS-version! You should check where kdebase is taken from: apt-cache policy kdebase shows this. Andreas -- Your fly might be open (but don't check it just now).
Re: Timezones trouble
On Monday 08 September 2003 00:30, Rene Horn wrote: That didn't do it. date give me the correct time. Whenever I go into Adjust Date Time..., it's always set to MAWT (Mawson, Antarctica.) I can reset it to the correct timezone and click Ok, but when I go back into it, it's set to MAWT again, and still won't show the correct timezone. Check that you really own ~/.kde and that you have correct permissions to access it. Maybe your change cannot be written to the appropriate config file due to a permission problem. Best, Magnus -- --- Magnus von Koeller --- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] address: International University Campus 9, App. 16 D-76646 Bruchsal / Germany mobile: +49-179-4562940 web: http://www.vonkoeller.de pgpmE7DaJdKts.pgp Description: signature
