Re: kde3.1.x today?

2003-09-15 Thread umidori kamome
Thanks Andreas and all the others having offered there help!
(B
(BI did it the way Andreas told me - and it works flawlessly :)
(B
(Bcu
(Bkamome
(B
(B> On 15.Sep 2003 - 22:35:24, umidori kamome wrote:
(B> > Hey Yo Hoh!
(B> > 
(B> > I have difficulties installing kde3 on woody or sarge...
(B> well, who
(B> > hasnt ;)
(B> > Skipping through the archive and googling I found different
(B> ways to
(B> > do
(B> > it, tried sources from sid (with Default-Release set to
(B> testing) and
(B> > ones
(B> > from kde.
(B> > Using sid I cant install (among others) kdebase, depending
(B> on
(B> > ksysguard, depending on ksysguardd, depending on
(B> > libsensors-1debian1, not beeing on the archives...
(B> 
(B> The libsensors-1debian1 package is not in sid anymore, but the
(B> kdebase
(B> package has not been rebuilt since then. I can mail the
(B> package to
(B> you, but you don't need the kdebase-package. It is a
(B> meta-package like
(B> many other kde* packages. If you install all the depends of
(B> kdebase,
(B> except ksysguard you should be able to install the rest of the
(B> kde.
(B> 
(B> > With the kde-sources I wasnt even able to install kdelibs4,
(B> > depending on... I dont remember - it wasnt installable.
(B> > But it should be achievable - on knoppix 3.2 I have
(B> kdebase3.1.1
(B> 
(B> In sid there is kde 3.1.3
(B> 
(B> > Does anyone have a way or source for me to install a more
(B> than very
(B> > basic kde3 on woody or sarge? I meen in the very near
(B> future, like
(B> > today or so ;)
(B> 
(B> For woody:
(B> 
(B> purge kde2
(B> kde.org into sources.list
(B> apt-get update
(B> apt-get install kdebase kdelibs4 kde...
(B> 
(B> For sarge using packages from sid:
(B> apt-get install kdelibs4 $(all packages from kdebase, except
(B> ksysguard) kdegames kdenetwork ...
(B> 
(B> Andreas
(B> 
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KDE 3.1.3 For Woody: Scrollbar Bug Fixed ?

2003-09-15 Thread Nick Boyce
Can anyone tell me whether or not the "unnecessary horizontal scrollbar" 
bug (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61730) is fixed in the Woody 
packages at download.kde.org
(ftp://ftp.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.1.3/Debian/dists/woody/main) ?

I see that the bug is fixed by kdelibs-3.1.3a 
(http://www.kde.org/info/3.1.3.php), but it's not clear to me whether 
the binary package in the pool directory contains that version.
(/pub/kde/stable/3.1.3/Debian/pool/main/k/kdelibs/kdelibs4_3.1.3-0woody1_i386.deb)

There's no "3.1.3a" directory on any of the mirrors I've checked.

I'm currently running 3.1.2 on Woody without any problems, but would 
like to upgrade to 3.1.3 - not least because of the security fix it 
contains (http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20030729-1.txt), 
but I'm reluctant to acquire the annoying scrollbar behaviour :-(

I'd be grateful either for the information (Ralf ?), or to be told how I 
can find out for myself (is there any way to see the package changelog 
without downloading the package itself) ?

Cheers,
Nick Boyce
Bristol, UK




Re: Starting of new session from other windowmanagers

2003-09-15 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 03:58:08PM +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:
> What is the interface to this feature?
>
http://webcvs.kde.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/kdebase/kdm/README?rev=2.21&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
section "the command fifos"

note that this interface is not guaranteed to stay stable; it's even
probable that it will change.

> (With kdm running of course.
> I think this is not possible with some different display manager
> running.)
> 
actually gdm has the same feature (it's called flexi-servers), but it 
has a different interface ...
i hope to standardize with the gdm guy, maybe based on d-bus when it
becomes available for good.

greetings

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kdm in Kde3.1.3

2003-09-15 Thread Philippe Merlin
Hi,
I just installed Kde 3.1.3 and i have an little difficulty to configure Kdm,
actually the screen reserve a field too short for the name of the users, so
there names are troncated  and are unreadable.
In Kde 3.1.0 there was no problem How i can configure kdm ?
Thanks for help me.

Philou75







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Re: Installing KDE3 from unstable onto sarge

2003-09-15 Thread Jeff
Paul Cupis, 2003-Sep-15 18:46 +0100:
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> On Monday 15 September 2003 17:32, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Paul Cupis, 2003-Sep-15 12:34 +0100:
> > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 07:10:05PM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> > > > I'm struggling with this and nothing I've read has yet to lead me
> > > > to success.  I hope someone can help me out, I'd really like to
> > > > have KDE3 without moving off of sarge.
> > >
> > > There are instructions in the DebianKDE FAQ which will help you
> > > install kde-core.
> > >
> > >   http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE
> >
> > Actually, this is the process I followed, but found that broken
> > packages in unstable are getting in my way.
> 
> "ksysguardd (and therefore kdebase) is not installable in sid at the 
> moment. This is due to libsensors-1debian1 not being in the archive any 
> more (bug #210276) You will need to wait for a new kdebase to uploaded 
> OR download http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2003/06/24/debian/pool/
> main/l/lm-sensors/libsensors-1debian1_2.7.0-6_i386.deb and install it 
> using dpkg -i"
> 
> If you download and install this libsensors-1debian1 package, can you 
> not install kde-core using apt-get?

RIGHT ON!

I now have KDE3 installed and running on Sarge.  Installing
libsensors-1debian1 manually enabled the installation of kde-core
using

# apt-get -t unstable install kde-core

And, the upgrade went perfectly from KDE 2.2.2 to KDE 3.1.3.  Apt
removed some packages, installed some new ones, and upgraded some.

Thanks a bunch!

jc


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Re: kde3.1.x today?

2003-09-15 Thread Paul Cupis
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(B>
(B> I have difficulties installing kde3 on woody or sarge... well, who
(B> hasnt ;)
(B[snip]
(B> Does anyone have a way or source for me to install a more than very
(B> basic kde3 on woody or sarge? I meen in the very near future, like
(B> today or so ;)
(B
(BWith a mixed testing/unstable system as you describe, download 
(Blibsensors-1debian1 and install it using dpkg -i. Then you will be able 
(Bto apt-get install kde-core from unstable.
(B
(BEverything else except the kdemultimedia meta-package should also be 
(Binstallable once you have installed the older libsensors packages.
(B
(BWhere can I get libsensors-1debian1, you ask? Read:
(B
(B  http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE
(B
(BPaul Cupis
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Re: Installing KDE3 from unstable onto sarge

2003-09-15 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Monday 15 September 2003 17:32, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Cupis, 2003-Sep-15 12:34 +0100:
> > On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 07:10:05PM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> > > I'm struggling with this and nothing I've read has yet to lead me
> > > to success.  I hope someone can help me out, I'd really like to
> > > have KDE3 without moving off of sarge.
> >
> > There are instructions in the DebianKDE FAQ which will help you
> > install kde-core.
> >
> >   http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE
>
> Actually, this is the process I followed, but found that broken
> packages in unstable are getting in my way.

"ksysguardd (and therefore kdebase) is not installable in sid at the 
moment. This is due to libsensors-1debian1 not being in the archive any 
more (bug #210276) You will need to wait for a new kdebase to uploaded 
OR download http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2003/06/24/debian/pool/
main/l/lm-sensors/libsensors-1debian1_2.7.0-6_i386.deb and install it 
using dpkg -i"

If you download and install this libsensors-1debian1 package, can you 
not install kde-core using apt-get?

Paul Cupis
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Re: Installing KDE3 from unstable onto sarge

2003-09-15 Thread Jeff
Paul Cupis, 2003-Sep-15 12:34 +0100:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 07:10:05PM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> > I'm struggling with this and nothing I've read has yet to lead me to
> > success.  I hope someone can help me out, I'd really like to have KDE3
> > without moving off of sarge.
> 
> There are instructions in the DebianKDE FAQ which will help you install
> kde-core.
> 
>   http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE

Actually, this is the process I followed, but found that broken
packages in unstable are getting in my way.

thanks,
jc


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Re: Installing KDE3 from unstable onto sarge

2003-09-15 Thread Jeff
Andreas Pakulat, 2003-Sep-15 10:00 +0200:
> On 14.Sep 2003 - 19:10:05, Jeff wrote:
> > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >   kde-core: Depends: kdebase but it is not going to be installed
> > E: Sorry, broken packages
> 
> You should read the bug reports, you'll find that kdebase from
> unstable is not installable at the moment, as the libsensors-1debian1
> package got removed from unstable. I don't know why it was introduced
> into unstable, but now ksysguardd depends on it and that package is
> one part of kdebase. 

I was just starting to catch on to that.  
 
> You could try to install the kde-core things by hand. 
> 
> apt-get install kdelibs4
> 
> and then install all the packages that kdebase consists of, that is
> enough, as no kde package depends on kdebase. Some however suggest or
> recommend kdebase (for example the language packages) so you should be
> carefull if installing with dselect or aptitude.

Perhaps I'll give this a try.  My other option all along has been to be
patient and wait for KDE3 to move into sarge.  However, my patience
comes and goes.  :-)

> If that doesn't work send me a PM and I'll give you the package.

Sounds good.  Thanks...jc

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Re: Strange delay when starting KDE applications

2003-09-15 Thread Magnus von Koeller
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On Monday 15 September 2003 13:03, Linus Gasser wrote:
> Look whether your /etc/hosts has an entry for localhost and for the
> name of your laptop...

That was it, thanks. I had changed my hostname but hadn't changed it 
in /etc/hosts.

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Re: kde3.1.x today?

2003-09-15 Thread C. Bicken
Hi,

KDE 3.1.3 for woody:

add the following line to your sources.list:

deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/x11/kde/stable/latest/Debian stable main  
(don't forget to write Debian with a capital D)

then:

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get install arts kdebase kdelibs

and for an almost complete KDE:

apt-get install kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeartwork kdegraphics kdemultimedia 
kdenetwork kdepim kdesdk kdeutils

best regards
C. Bicken




Starting of new session from other windowmanagers

2003-09-15 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi!

KDE has the nice feature that you can start a new session, better a new
X server if the screen is locked (or by clicking on ...).

What is the interface to this feature? Is it possible to do the very
same from within another windowmanager? (With kdm running of course.
I think this is not possible with some different display manager
running.)

Since some of us are running wmaker and some kde and some gnome, I would
like to have the same feature for all of them. I think a command line
utility which signals kdm that a new session/server should be started
would be a nice thing, or is this already possible with dcop?

(Please Cc: me any answer, thanks a lot)

BTW: debian/woody with kde31, gnome22 etc, or debian/sid, both I have
available.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: kde3.1.x today?

2003-09-15 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 15.Sep 2003 - 22:35:24, umidori kamome wrote:
> Hey Yo Hoh!
> 
> I have difficulties installing kde3 on woody or sarge... well, who
> hasnt ;)
> Skipping through the archive and googling I found different ways to
> do
> it, tried sources from sid (with Default-Release set to testing) and
> ones
> from kde.
> Using sid I cant install (among others) kdebase, depending on
> ksysguard, depending on ksysguardd, depending on
> libsensors-1debian1, not beeing on the archives...

The libsensors-1debian1 package is not in sid anymore, but the kdebase
package has not been rebuilt since then. I can mail the package to
you, but you don't need the kdebase-package. It is a meta-package like
many other kde* packages. If you install all the depends of kdebase,
except ksysguard you should be able to install the rest of the kde.

> With the kde-sources I wasnt even able to install kdelibs4,
> depending on... I dont remember - it wasnt installable.
> But it should be achievable - on knoppix 3.2 I have kdebase3.1.1

In sid there is kde 3.1.3

> Does anyone have a way or source for me to install a more than very
> basic kde3 on woody or sarge? I meen in the very near future, like
> today or so ;)

For woody:

purge kde2
kde.org into sources.list
apt-get update
apt-get install kdebase kdelibs4 kde...

For sarge using packages from sid:
apt-get install kdelibs4 $(all packages from kdebase, except
ksysguard) kdegames kdenetwork ...

Andreas

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kde3.1.x today?

2003-09-15 Thread umidori kamome
Hey Yo Hoh!
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(Bhasnt ;)
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(Bones
(Bfrom kde.
(BUsing sid I cant install (among others) kdebase, depending on
(Bksysguard, depending on ksysguardd, depending on
(Blibsensors-1debian1, not beeing on the archives...
(BWith the kde-sources I wasnt even able to install kdelibs4,
(Bdepending on... I dont remember - it wasnt installable.
(BBut it should be achievable - on knoppix 3.2 I have kdebase3.1.1
(B(although here, as well, I dont find a complete kdemultimedia) -
(Bjust I cannot ask there right now - the site (www.knopper.net) is on
(Bstrike against patents.
(B
(BDoes anyone have a way or source for me to install a more than very
(Bbasic kde3 on woody or sarge? I meen in the very near future, like
(Btoday or so ;)
(B
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Re: Installing KDE3 from unstable onto sarge

2003-09-15 Thread Paul Cupis
On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 07:10:05PM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> I'm struggling with this and nothing I've read has yet to lead me to
> success.  I hope someone can help me out, I'd really like to have KDE3
> without moving off of sarge.

There are instructions in the DebianKDE FAQ which will help you install
kde-core.

  http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE

Regards,

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Re: Strange delay when starting KDE applications

2003-09-15 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 01:03:44PM +0200, Linus Gasser wrote:

| Look whether your /etc/hosts has an entry for localhost and for the name of 
| your laptop...

Incidentally, shouldn't this be something that is fixed somewhere in
glibc so that localhost and the machine's hostname always resolve to
something sane (127.0.0.1, for example) without involving whatever it is
that slows things down (network traffic?)?

Cameron.




Re: Strange delay when starting KDE applications

2003-09-15 Thread Linus Gasser
On Monday 15 September 2003 12:02, Magnus von Koeller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just installed KDE on my new Laptop. Now, whenever I start any KDE
> application (for example Konqueror, Konsole, KWrite, KCalc but even
> the Konqueror configuration dialog when started from the Konqueror
> menu) I have a very strange 12sec delay before they start up.
>
> What could this be? I mean, this laptop's supposed to be two or three
> times as fast as my old machine but it takes KDE applications much
> more time to start up so something must be wrong.
>
> Any suggestions?

Look whether your /etc/hosts has an entry for localhost and for the name of 
your laptop...

ineiti

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Strange delay when starting KDE applications

2003-09-15 Thread Magnus von Koeller
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Hi,

I just installed KDE on my new Laptop. Now, whenever I start any KDE 
application (for example Konqueror, Konsole, KWrite, KCalc but even 
the Konqueror configuration dialog when started from the Konqueror 
menu) I have a very strange 12sec delay before they start up.

What could this be? I mean, this laptop's supposed to be two or three 
times as fast as my old machine but it takes KDE applications much 
more time to start up so something must be wrong.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Magnus

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Re: Installing KDE3 from unstable onto sarge

2003-09-15 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 14.Sep 2003 - 19:10:05, Jeff wrote:
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   kde-core: Depends: kdebase but it is not going to be installed
> E: Sorry, broken packages

You should read the bug reports, you'll find that kdebase from
unstable is not installable at the moment, as the libsensors-1debian1
package got removed from unstable. I don't know why it was introduced
into unstable, but now ksysguardd depends on it and that package is
one part of kdebase. 

You could try to install the kde-core things by hand. 

apt-get install kdelibs4

and then install all the packages that kdebase consists of, that is
enough, as no kde package depends on kdebase. Some however suggest or
recommend kdebase (for example the language packages) so you should be
carefull if installing with dselect or aptitude.

If that doesn't work send me a PM and I'll give you the package.

Andreas

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Re: Bad toolbars

2003-09-15 Thread Crispin Wellington
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 12:23, Peter Clark wrote:
>   First, apologies for the binary attachment. I just updated my system, 
> and 
> suddenly the toolbars are just a pixel or two too short. I tried every style, 
> and they all had the same problem, except for Keramic. The pic is of kmail's 
> toolbar, and as you can see, the bottom black line is broken. I tried 
> changing the icon size, adding and removing text, etc., but with no luck. Has 
> anyone run into this before?
>   :Peter

I too began experiencing this on my unstable system, and I too just did
an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.

Thats unstable for you!

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