Re: Kmail+SPAM
On October 6, 2003 21:34, Jose wrote: Any way to get a spam filter into kmail like Thunderbird has? I have tried Spam Assassin, but it takes forever to download mail. Thunderbird does this much quicker. Is there something else out there that I can use other than Spam Assassin in kmail? bogofilter and kmail work rather well together. -- David P James Ottawa, Ontario http://members.rogers.com/dpjames/ There is no art which one government sooner learns of another than that of draining money from the pockets of the people. -Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations
Re: [OT] Re: Spam because of this list
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 04:35:12AM +0200, Thomas Ritter wrote: Am Dienstag, 7. Oktober 2003 03:30 schrieb Antiphon: I don't have any faith in anti-spam legislation. There's no way laws can stop spam. It's like pornography, religions, drugs and guns. The more you try to regulate it, the less you'll succeed at stopping it. Spam is a problem created by technology that can only be solved by it. Hm. Not really... it's more a social problem. Too many people react to Spam by buying the fscking product. Of course Mail Virii are a different problem, which is being called Microsoft Outbreak or similar... By the way, why the hell do some stupid admins filter virii out of mails and _send_ the rest of that Virus Distribution Mail? Those are nearly the only mails dropping through my SpamAssassin / ClamAV combination and going into my inbox :(( The following will get rid of most of that. Of course you may get a few false positives, but it is generally worth the collateral damage. ;) Chris --- procmail rules: -toss known viruses before the following checks- DATE=`date +%Y-%m` # antivirus crap - note this will catch poor lusers using RAV as well :0: * 1^0 ^From: .*MailScanner * 1^0 ^From: .*virus * 1^0 ^Subject: .*Antigen found * 1^0 ^Subject: .*ANTIVIRUS LA REGION * 1^0 ^Subject: .*InterScan NT Alert * 1^0 ^Subject: .*Norton AntiVirus * 1^0 ^Subject: .*Report to Sender * 1^0 ^Subject: .*ScanMail for Lotus Notes * 1^0 ^Subject: .*Virus Alert * 1^0 ^Subject: .*Virus Detected by Network Associates * 1^0 ^Subject: .*Virus Found in message * 1^0 ^Subject: .*VIRUS IN YOUR MAIL * 1^0 ^X-Mailer: ravmd * 1^0 ^X-MailScanner: Found to be infected * 1^0 ^X-RAV-AntiVirus: * 1^0 ^X-RAV-Signature: * 1^0 ^X-RAVMilter-Version: antivirus-$DATE # postmaster/mailer-daemon crap - this is usually bounced viruses... :0: * 1^0 ^From: .*Administrator@ * 1^0 ^From: .*iGMailer * 1^0 ^From: .*Mail Delivery Service * 1^0 ^From: .*mailadmin@ * 1^0 ^From: .*mailer-daemon * 1^0 ^From: .*postmaster postmaster-$DATE # spam mailbox - all your lovely spamassassin email :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes spam-$DATE signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Kmail+SPAM
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 03:34, Jose wrote: Any way to get a spam filter into kmail like Thunderbird has? I have tried Spam Assassin, but it takes forever to download mail. Thunderbird does this much quicker. Is there something else out there that I can use other than Spam Assassin in kmail? I heard that one gets a great performance boost if running spamd/spamc pair instead of directly invocing spamassassin for each mail. Unless you do that already :) Cheers, Kevin -- ~ Kevin Krammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developer at the Kmud Project http://www.kmud.de/ ~ pgpw0HJMPjVJp.pgp Description: signature
Couldn't find MIME type application/octet-stream
Hello, Every time I start kde or some of their applications (like konqueror), I get the annoying message: Couldn't fine MIME type application/octet-stream. Does anyone knows why it happens? It started last week I think. Regards, Virgilio
Programmer for hire
I would like to wet my feet in the Open Source pool. Can anyone suggest any needy Projects? I can do C, C++, Pascal, Assembly, etc. and would like to put my talents to work to give something back to the Community that has given my desktop so much. Robert Tilley [EMAIL PROTECTED]Home [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work
Re: Programmer for hire
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 16:41, Bob Tilley (ATT) wrote: I would like to wet my feet in the Open Source pool. Can anyone suggest any needy Projects? I can do C, C++, Pascal, Assembly, etc. and would like to put my talents to work to give something back to the Community that has given my desktop so much. You may want to have a look at savannah.gnu.org and sourceforge.net. cheers, Patrick
Re: Programmer for hire
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 08:41, Bob Tilley (ATT) wrote: I would like to wet my feet in the Open Source pool. Can anyone suggest any needy Projects? I can do C, C++, Pascal, Assembly, etc. and would like to put my talents to work to give something back to the Community that has given my desktop so much. As someone that has contributed in (very) small ways to several different open source projects, I can tell you that your approach, while well-meaning, is almost definetly the wrong way 'round. A much better way is to look at your desktop, figure out what you use the most, pick something in that app that is lacking, and fix it. Rinse, repeat, until you find a project that 'clicks'. The problem with just going with a 'needy' project (and in open source, *all* projects need more programmers, thus making this somewhat moot) is that it is difficult to sustain the drive needed to actually help, when working on a program that you never use. Case in point: my level of involvement in kpilot dropped of dramatically (to nothing) when I started syncing my handspring to my ibook, and stopped using my linux box. Same with kmamerun (not using mame much anymore), and umbrello (no longer diagramming things), and etc So, if you think kate's code folding abilities leave something to be desired, or kdevelop would be a lot nicer with objc support, or k3b could use a way to automatically convert videos for vcds, then go forth and do! And absolutely the best of luck. We need all the help we can get :-) D.A.Bishop
RE: Storage, KDE Traffic 66, (2)
Warning: This concept has not been investigated for feasibility. In response to the Storage (from Gnome) concept, is it possible to connect a Linux file system to the Google search engine? You would be able to enter a search: music by Beethoven or messages from Donna. These queries would be passed of to a mini-Google, the universe of which would be your filesystem. It would then search among your music or your email, and deliver the results? I know this is a very basic question but much of the concept of Storage for KDE is beyond me at the moment. Bob
Re: Storage, KDE Traffic 66, (2)
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 17:26, Bob Tilley (ATT) wrote: Warning: This concept has not been investigated for feasibility. In response to the Storage (fom Gnome) concept, is it possible to connect a Linux file system to the Google search engine? In theory yes, however you would just be representing the results in a different manner. And as there are potentially millions of results from a google query youd have to adapt the results in some manner to make them more presentable. I dont really see the point as 99% of the results you get are just html files. You would be able to enter a search: music by Beethoven or messages from Donna. These queries would be passed of to a mini-Google, the universe of which would be your filesystem. It would then search among your music or your email, and deliver the results? This is possible and has already exists in a variety of forms. The implementation problems however are considerable. If you do a full such for each query then the time to results could be considerable. Or alternatively, you have to keep some indexed database of meta data, which means having both a data base layer and the meta data itself. For some files like mp3s they already contain metadata, so that isnt a huge issue. However you would have to implement a metadata schema that covers all types of files (how can you do a search for images of a tree for instance without very very complex image analysis and AI object recognition, this is incredibly difficult and something i have worked on in the past). I know this is a very basic question but much of the concept of Storage for KDE is beyond me at the moment. Most of the hype about storage is its query mechanism rather than anything else. It seems just to be a keyword search which picks up on the context of a word in the query as well as the keyword itself. i.e it interprets image of as files of type image/* rather than files containing the word image. Tom -- ^__^| Tom Badran (oo)\__ | Imperial College (__)\ )\/\ | Department of Computing ||w || --- || ||| Using Debian SID pgp5ht3sCgE5V.pgp Description: signature
Re: Spam because of this list
On Monday 06 October 2003 19:16, kosh wrote: I disagree with this idea and I don't want the addresses munged. It is very useful being able to reply to someone and I will just hit reply to reply to someone. If the mail bounces I won't waste any more time contacting them. Overall not one list that I am on munges email addresses and when people do it to their own addresses they often end up getting no help at all. I see that on the python and zope lists a fair bit. use wiki.debian.net -- Svenn
Re: Spam because of this list
On Monday 06 October 2003 19:47, Antiphon wrote: Munging does not mean only removing the domain. It can be simply a matter of making [EMAIL PROTECTED] into joe at user dot or dot jp. That's not too hard for someone to figure out. A proper regular expression can recognize the dots and ats and replace them with proper signs. Email should stay email in case times changes to better. -- Svenn
Re: Spam because of this list
On Monday 06 October 2003 20:00, kosh wrote: If I have to figure it out then I won't reply. I get thousands of email a day and reply to some of them to help people. There are so many that I could reply to anyone that makes my life just a little more difficult will not get a reply. Also do you honestly think that the bots are not smart enough to deal with that? great honor to helpers. If questions and answers were collected on wiki.debian.net, then there would be no problem as there are no emails needed and your answers will stay for ever and even be searchable (google show more and more .com sites on any hits nowadays.) -- Svenn
Re: Spam because of this list
On Monday 06 October 2003 20:26, Antiphon wrote: You could also munge the @ sign and around it as I said in the previous example. However, using only the entity way I outlined above would be more convenient for someone like you who wants clickability. It would be even better to use java.graphics and make the emails on the fly with different colours and fonts and a rule, also written in on the fly graphics, that says something like: use only red helvetica fonts read from right to left. You had better munge the munge to avoid da demungers. -- Svenn
Re: Spam because of this list
On Monday 06 October 2003 21:12, kosh wrote: As I already pointed out the existing email harvesters already do this by default. You are not defeating anything. I think you overestimate how much time it takes to parse stuff like that. It problems takes more time to gather the data over the network connection then it takes to parse it. But in contradiction to a clear write email address a demunged munged address is more worth because somebody has tried to protect it against me. Houses with fences and alarms tend to have more valuables inside than houses without doors. Stop using email for questions and answers and turn to wiki.debian.net. That way you will not only avoid giving out your email, you will also contribute to fast growing, searchable faq and in the end there will be no need to be subscribed to debian-kde. -- Svenn
Re: Programmer for hire
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 17:18, David Bishop wrote: So, if you think kate's code folding abilities leave something to be desired, or kdevelop would be a lot nicer with objc support, or k3b could use a way to automatically convert videos for vcds, then go forth and do! And absolutely the best of luck. We need all the help we can get :-) Key problem #1 in open source: There are so many people out there with some programming skills and so few with project management skills. End is that most popular projects have a fork or two. Just look at freshmeat.net for a year or two and most hypes get forked. Nice, but useless waste of effort. I think it *is* the proper way to say: Hey here I am, can I help. And then the package maintainers must rise their heads and check if they can load off some load on this new strong soul, but, no, most package maintainers are so deep into their own problems that this extra energy goes to waste. I want to help you with your shoe, but you have to tell me where it hurts as long as you don't let me wear it... -- Svenn
Re: Kmail+SPAM
On Mon 06 Oct 2003 7:34 pm, Jose wrote: Any way to get a spam filter into kmail like Thunderbird has? I have tried Spam Assassin, but it takes forever to download mail. Thunderbird does this much quicker. Is there something else out there that I can use other than Spam Assassin in kmail? Thanks! Hmmm. My ISP runs spam-blocking software server-side. (It's called MailArmory, created by my ISP frii.com - an excellent ISP if you're in the Colorado Front Range. I think that MailArmory runs SpamAssassin under the hood, though it also filters viruses gives you a nice Web-based front end.) That way the spam gets filtered before I download it. Meldroc
Re: Programmer for hire
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 10:41 am, Bob Tilley (ATT) wrote: I would like to wet my feet in the Open Source pool. Can anyone suggest any needy Projects? I can do C, C++, Pascal, Assembly, etc. and would like to put my talents to work to give something back to the Community that has given my desktop so much. Bob, David Bishop's advice is good, nevertheless, I'd like to suggest two projects that I'd like to see get done (and I haven't been able to do them (so far, and maybe never)): * Add collapsible outlining to AbiWord. * Add a keyboard macro facility to X (the X server). If you (or anyone else) are interested in either one of these, I can try to tell you what I know (which isn't much). regards, Randy Kramer
KDE Disappeared During Keyboard Check
I am old to GNU/Linux but new to Debian. After installing X and KDE, I started X and logged in. The kdm login manager seemed to work fine. Everything did, including the mouse until suddenly during keyboard check (or possibly exactly at finish of keyboard check), it died. I was back on the command line console.. Any ideas on what to do here? This was on the console machine, I have not tried it from a remote X -query yet.. Matthew -- SimpFlex Technologies, Inc. 400-A E. Main St. Pullman, WA 99163
Re: KDE Disappeared During Keyboard Check
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 08. Oktober 2003 01:14 schrieb matthew tedder [EMAIL PROTECTED] zum Thema KDE Disappeared During Keyboard Check: Any ideas on what to do here? This was on the console machine, I have not tried it from a remote X -query yet.. Check ~/.xsession-errors for possible hints. In my experience this is most often but not exclusively caused by having KDE libs of different versions installed at the same time (i.e. 2.x and 3.x, or even different 3.x Versions). You might want to check the versions of all involved (KDE) Packages using dpkg -l and grep for example. Patrick - -- Patrick Dreker GPG KeyID : 0xFCC2F7A7 (Patrick Dreker) Fingerprint: 7A21 FC7F 707A C498 F370 1008 7044 66DA FCC2 F7A7 Key available from keyservers or http://www.dreker.de/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/g1aqcERm2vzC96cRAmc2AJ47XgSgRUbYejLwYXcxYDIa9/JYUQCfdxyP nlcdXta0Wwtp8+qPQOLSf5c= =HR9G -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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From: Svenn Are Bjerkem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/07 Tue PM 02:51:06 EDT To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Spam because of this list On Monday 06 October 2003 19:16, kosh wrote: I disagree with this idea and I don't want the addresses munged. It is very useful being able to reply to someone and I will just hit reply to reply to someone. If the mail bounces I won't waste any more time contacting them. Overall not one list that I am on munges email addresses and when people do it to their own addresses they often end up getting no help at all. I see that on the python and zope lists a fair bit. use wiki.debian.net -- Svenn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
