Re: Power Mgt on Laptop

[Bob Hauck]

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004, Sylvain Joyeux wrote:

> AFAIK, on ext3, the commit interval can't be changed. So, every time a
> process write sth on disk, the journal commit occurs physically within
> something like 10s.

The "laptop-mode patch" makes the interval adjustable at mount time.  The
-mm kernels include this patch for 2.6.  Try:



It is in the "broken-out" subdirectory under the appropriate kernel
version.  Recent 2.4 kernels already have it IIRC, but it isn't an
official part of 2.6 yet.  The Documentation subdirectory of the source
tree has usage info if the patch has been applied.


> Moreover, without noflushd, the kernel buffers are flushed every 30s (or
> less, I can't remember)

The same patch also tweaks this.


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3.2.1 and krfb

[Christoph Kaminski]

I there any fix for it yet?

Re: Power Mgt on Laptop

[Sylvain Joyeux]

AFAIK, on ext3, the commit interval can't be changed. So, every time a 
process write sth on disk, the journal commit occurs physically within 
something like 10s.

Moreover, without noflushd, the kernel buffers are flushed every 30s (or 
less, I can't remember)

Try mounting you partition using ext2 and use noflushd
-- 
Sylvain Joyeux

kmail and imap

[Christoph Kaminski]

Hi!

I have a question to kmail (sid + kde 3.2.1)

when I start it, that need a long time until it shows how much new or unreaded 
mails I have in subdirs of my imap folder...

Can I make it faster?

It takes up to 1 minute, bevor I can see it...
Or is that normal?

CU

Re: Power Mgt on Laptop

[Jeff Coppock]

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 00:25:43 +0200
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Saturday 03 April 2004 00:10, Jeff Coppock wrote:
> > I've tried to see what was accessing files/dirs using the following
> > script:
> >
> > I can get KDE to a point where nothing KDE-related shows up, but
> > still no joy.
> >
> I suspect FAM may be the culprit. Try using lsof (as root) to see what
> files are open and by what processes.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I don't run FAM.  Here is a list of
current KDE processes:

kdeinit:Running...
kdeinit:dcopserver
kdeinit:klauncher
kdeinit:kded
kdeinit:kaccess
kdeinit:knotify
kdeinit:ksmserver
kdeinit:kwin
kdeinit:kdesktop
kdeinit:kicker
kdeinit:klipper
kdeinit:konqueror
kdeinit:konqueror
kdeinit:kio_pop3
kdeinit:kio_file
kdeinit:konsole

jc

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Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer
Diggin' Debian  Admin and User

Re: Power Mgt on Laptop

[Frans Pop]

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On Saturday 03 April 2004 00:10, Jeff Coppock wrote:
> I've tried to see what was accessing files/dirs using the following
> script:
>
> I can get KDE to a point where nothing KDE-related shows up, but still
> no joy.
>
I suspect FAM may be the culprit. Try using lsof (as root) to see what files 
are open and by what processes.

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Re: Power Mgt on Laptop

[Jeff Coppock]

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:10:29 -0800
Jeff Coppock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lately, I've been working on making my laptop as efficient on power as
> possible.  
> 
> Dell Latitude C610, BIOS version A16, Testing release.
> 
> There is a lot of information out there on this subject and I've
> accomplished quite a bit on the system:
> 
> 1.  I mount my EXT3 partitions with noatime
> 2.  I have /tmp mounting in memory with tmpfs
> 3.  I adjusted syslog-ng logging with the sync() option to buffer 5
> lines before writing to file
> 4.  I do not use swap since I have enough memory to handle all my
> needs
> 
> But, in spite of this I simply cannot get the HDD to spin down with
> KDE running.  If I exit to KDM, it works just fine.   With KDE
> running, I've tried stopping all the daemons I can and still no joy.
> 
> I've tried to see what was accessing files/dirs using the following
> script:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> echo
> echo "Finding new files and dirs 5 minutes old."
> echo
> echo "Files..."
> find / -mount -type f -amin -5
> find /usr -mount -type f -amin -5
> find /home -mount -type f -amin -5
> echo
> echo "Directories..."
> find / -mount -amin -5
> find /usr -mount -amin -5
> find /home -mount -amin -5
> 
> I can get KDE to a point where nothing KDE-related shows up, but still
> no joy.  
> 
> I've also found that noflushd doesn't work by testing it against
> hdparm-S, which does work.  So I'm using hdparm now.
> 
> I'm thinking now that it's hopeless with KDE running, that I won't be
> able to read email or other doc's offline without the HDD spinning and
> burning battery.  If anyone has idea's or suggestions to help me out,
> I'd really appreciate it.

I forgot to mention my kernel information.  I'm running a self-compile
2.4.21 kernel, which is configured properly for what I need/want.  I'm
stuck at this version for an application I need that won't run on newer
kernels yet.  I looked into laptop_mode, but I'm not convince it will
buy me anything compared to what I have so far.

jc


-- 
Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer
Diggin' Debian  Admin and User

kde 3.2 noatun and mpeg

[Ralph Alvy]

I find that since upgrading from KDE 3.1.5, the new noatun (and kaboodle)
fails to play mpeg videos.

Power Mgt on Laptop

[Jeff Coppock]

Lately, I've been working on making my laptop as efficient on power as
possible.  

Dell Latitude C610, BIOS version A16, Testing release.

There is a lot of information out there on this subject and I've
accomplished quite a bit on the system:

1.  I mount my EXT3 partitions with noatime
2.  I have /tmp mounting in memory with tmpfs
3.  I adjusted syslog-ng logging with the sync() option to buffer 5
lines before writing to file
4.  I do not use swap since I have enough memory to handle all my needs

But, in spite of this I simply cannot get the HDD to spin down with KDE
running.  If I exit to KDM, it works just fine.   With KDE running, I've
tried stopping all the daemons I can and still no joy.

I've tried to see what was accessing files/dirs using the following
script:

#!/bin/bash
echo
echo "Finding new files and dirs 5 minutes old."
echo
echo "Files..."
find / -mount -type f -amin -5
find /usr -mount -type f -amin -5
find /home -mount -type f -amin -5
echo
echo "Directories..."
find / -mount -amin -5
find /usr -mount -amin -5
find /home -mount -amin -5

I can get KDE to a point where nothing KDE-related shows up, but still
no joy.  

I've also found that noflushd doesn't work by testing it against hdparm
-S, which does work.  So I'm using hdparm now.

I'm thinking now that it's hopeless with KDE running, that I won't be
able to read email or other doc's offline without the HDD spinning and
burning battery.  If anyone has idea's or suggestions to help me out,
I'd really appreciate it.

thanks,
jc

-- 
Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer
Diggin' Debian  Admin and User

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Re: customize menu all users

[Achim Bohnet]

On Friday 02 April 2004 01:21, Chris Cheney wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 08:48:31AM -0300, Raul Montagne wrote:
> > > Note that the directory /usr/local/share/applications may not exist [1], 
> > > but
> > > you need only create it, and it will be searched by the KDE menu system.
> > 1.-which is the search order of KDE for the menus?
> 
> I am not certain, but if it doesn't look in /usr/local first it is buggy
> since the freedesktop.org basedir spec states it must look there first.

$ kde-config --types
...
xdgconf-menu - XDG Menu layout (.menu files)
xdgdata-apps - XDG Application menu (.desktop files)
xdgdata-dirs - XDG Menu descriptions (.directory files)
$ kde-config --path xdgdata-app
/home/ach/.local/share/applications/:/usr/local/share/applications/:/usr/share/applications/

Yupp, /usr/local before /usr ;)

Raul, note kde-config only shows directories of the search path that exists
to prevent unnecessary lookups.

Achim
> 
> > 2.- the applications I want to *add* in the KDE menu, I would put in
> > /usr/local/share/applications. But if I want to weed out some
> > applications?
> > I have to weed out this apps from the KDE menu, in the very same
> > /usr/share/application (for KDE 3.2) isn't it?
> 
> You should be able to simply put a .desktop file into the local
> directory with the same name as the one you want to replace with the
> "NoDisplay=True" value set in the .desktop file
> 
> > 3.- (last...for the time being) where, how to customize a "standard"
> > panel for a machine for every user?
> 
> I think this is set via the list in /usr/share/apps/kicker/default-apps
> if so you should be override it via /usr/local as well.
> 
> Chris
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