Changing cursors w/KDE 3.2

2004-05-19 Thread Ian R. Meinzen
Hello all,
I'm having a problem installing a new set of cursors under KDE.  I had
installed the crystalblue cursor set from kde-look.org, followed the
instructions (move the theme directory into ~/.icons , and changing the
~/.icons/default/index.theme), but every time I still get the same set
of default cursors.  I can't find any error in the various logs saying
it couldn't load the cursors.  Any suggestions?

Ian
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Re: kmail and multiple smtp profiles

2004-05-19 Thread Tobias Kraus
Am Dienstag, 18. Mai 2004 18:33 schrieb Tobias Kraus:
[...]
> > My suggestion would not switch the transport, but alter the
> > transport configuration itself.
> >
> > So the active transport would always be the same, but point to a
> > different SMTP server.
>

Works perfectly! Thanks

For the archive: I've set the following line in my kmailrc:

[Transport 1]
host[$ie]=$(/home/ford/bin/test-kmail-smtp)
[...]

where test-kmail-smtp returns the smtp-server on stdout according to 
the network I'm connected to. This works even without restarting 
kmail (1.6.2, kde 3.2.2)

Tobias

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> > Kevin
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KDE is preventing laptop disk spindown by incessant configfile-writing

2004-05-19 Thread foner-debian-kde
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 11:40:24 +0200
From: Sylvain Joyeux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have the same problem here (writing of kdeglobals and korgacrc for no 
obvious reasons). I don't have time to check the KDE sources.

See Riku Voipio's recent message (and my response) in this thread.
His suggestion fixed the problem.  (The solution was to find
korganizer in the taskbar, disable alarms, and make it quit.)

Tell me: you do want to _use_ your laptop, don't you ? If not, just put it 
into sleep :p. If you do, then you'll save data, read, whatever and - 
eventually - your HD will spin up every 5 seconds because of the ext3 
commit.

No, it won't.  See my response to Riku.  Getting rid of korganizer's
write-once-a-minute behavior let the disk spin down and -stay- down.
And I didn't have to do anything to ext3's commit interval (e.g.,
touching /tmp/foo does spin the disk up instantly, so writes to the
filesystem are still happening immediately).

I do agree that KDE shouldn't write its config files, but I don't see the 
point of (desesperately) trying to fix something which is obviously not the 
way you'll use your laptop (or at least, it is not the way I use mine ;))

If someone asks for help solving a problem, it's generally not very
helpful to anyone (the asker, the answerer, or the peanut gallery)
to insist that they're not solving a real problem just because it's
not -your- problem.

I often use my laptop to take notes in a meeting, or to read mail out
of a single large RMAIL buffer, etc.  In those cases, there's no point
to having the disk spun up (and one of these laptops also has the
loudest disk I've ever heard, so it's annoying as well).  Since I got
this behavior with no effort under Mandrake 8.2, I figured it should be
attainable under Debina.  In fact, having now nuked korganizer, it was.

If you do really want to fix that, you should take a look at tmpfs. I think 
the best way to achieve what you want is building a .kde/share/config in 
tmpfs, saving it on disk on shutdown, reading it from disk on start.

An interesting idea.  Don't need it this time, but maybe some other
time.  (I was speculating on doing something like this when I first
noticed the problem, but was hoping it wouldn't be necessary...)

Tnx.




KDE is preventing laptop disk spindown by incessant configfile-writing

2004-05-19 Thread foner-debian-kde
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 16:59:21 +0300
From: Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 05:17:01AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> But the instant I actually log in, I get constant disk spinups,
> again because I cannot keep KDE from -constantly- writing
> ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals and korgacrc.  This wasn't happening
> in the (much older) KDE in my Mandrake 8.2 installation.

I don't know what is writing kedglobals, but you can disable korgacrc
by removing korganizer from the taskbar and disabling alarms.

Ah ha!  Thank you---that stopped -both- files from being written.
Apparently korganizer's alarms were what was doing it.

OTOH, is are your partitions mounted noatime? that was the single
largest win to keep disk from spinning up for me. The other one was
enabling laptop_mode using the script provided by the patch.

Wasn't mounted noatime; remounting it that way didn't help until I
nuked korg's alarms.  Haven't tried laptop_mode.sh yet & may not need
to; with this change (and remember that I'm running cpudyn and have
/proc/sys/vm/laptop_mdoe set to 1), my disk spun down and -stayed-
down until syslog wrote a "-- MARK --" entry; I've now added "-m 0"
to its init so that won't happen.  I may remount without noatime just
to see if random thing are reading behind my back (presumably they'd
be operating out of the cache in RAM most of the time, but I'm
curious, and I actually sometimes use atime to see if I've used a
file recently...)

Thanks again!

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(*snicker*)




Re: KDE is preventing laptop disk spindown by incessant configfile-writing

2004-05-19 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 15:58, Antiphon wrote:
> Question: Is 2.6.6 the first kernel version to include laptop mode?

I think so. It was announced that way on kerneltrap.org.

Anders

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RE: KDE + TwinView on Sid vs. Sarge

2004-05-19 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
Under the desktop, I do have the Xinerama test for the taskbar, it does 
identify the screens, and the taskbar does display on only one screen (screen 
2) as it should, but when I maximize a window, it spreads across both screens.  
I would like to change this behavior back to just maximizing on the one screen, 
just like it was under Sarge.

--JATF

-Original Message-
From: johnny geling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:31 PM
To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: KDE + TwinView on Sid vs. Sarge


I have a similair setup, only with 2 graphic cards. Running SID and no problem 
with Xinerama extension from Xfree. Have you setup xfree configuration 
correctly and does it use Xinerama? I've noticed Xinerama support on 3.2.x 
has been improved comparing 3.1.x. Maximizing a window and it stay on that 
screen. 

Look at your xfree setup and then search for Xinerama option in configuration 
panel of desktop/panel (I suppose using dutch translations.)

 

On Tuesday 11 May 2004 17:31, Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL wrote:
>   I was using Sarge on my laptop up until last week, when I moved to Sid. 
> Everything in the upgrade went fine, except that I had to remove
> console-common in order to get the dist-upgrade to complete.
>
> Here is the wrinkle:  I use the NVidia Proprietary driver with TwinView
> so I can hook up an additional monitor to my laptop.  Under KDE 3.1.x
> (Sarge), when I would maximize an application, it would maximize only on
> that monitor.  Under KDE 3.2 (Sid), they now spread across both screens,
> which means I can't really use the maximize button because one screen is
> 1024x768 and the other is 1600x1200.
> Is there a setting in KDE that allows me to get this feature back?  I
> seem to remember seeing "Cinellera Support" in the 3.1.x control center,
> but I can't find it in KDE 3.2.
> --JATF

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Re: Open a mail directly from kmail search results?

2004-05-19 Thread Caoilte O'Connor
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 07:43, Jonathan Byrne wrote:
> Using kmail 1.6.2 in KDE 3.2.2 on Sarge.
>
> I'm sure there must be a way to open a mail directly from
> a kmail search result rather than have the main message
> list pane jump to that message when the message is
> clicked in the search result.  However, the handbook
> doesn't mention it and just digging around turned up
> nothing.  Ditto for googling. Anybody got the magic clue
> for me? :-)
>
> I hope it can be done because Kmail is worlds faster than
> Thunderbird on an IMAP mailbox with 80,000+ spams in it
> (no, I'm not kidding; I'm in the spam-filtering industry
> :-) and the search behavior is  the only thing keeping me
> stuck on Thunderbird for this task.  I set the search
> window to stay above others, run a search, and want any
> search result, when double-clicked, to open in a new
> window.  Thunderbird does.  Kmail doesn't. Help! :)

The only thing I can suggest is using the Last Searches  
folder (at the bottom, or click on "open" in the search 
dialog) after every search. That opens in a new window if 
you double click, and setting a shortcut to open the search 
window again should be relatively painless.

c




Re: KDE is preventing laptop disk spindown by incessant configfile-writing

2004-05-19 Thread Riku Voipio
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 05:17:01AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> But the instant I actually log in, I get constant disk spinups,
> again because I cannot keep KDE from -constantly- writing
> ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals and korgacrc.  This wasn't happening
> in the (much older) KDE in my Mandrake 8.2 installation.

I don't know what is writing kedglobals, but you can disable korgacrc
by removing korganizer from the taskbar and disabling alarms.

OTOH, is are your partitions mounted noatime? that was the single
largest win to keep disk from spinning up for me. The other one was
enabling laptop_mode using the script provided by the patch.

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Re: KDE is preventing laptop disk spindown by incessant configfile-writing

2004-05-19 Thread Antiphon
Question: Is 2.6.6 the first kernel version to include laptop mode?

On May 18, 2004 5:37 pm, Joan Tur wrote:
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> |
> | I've just started using Debian Sarge on a Thinkpad 240, having used
> | Debian on a desktop, and Mandrake 8.2 on an identical ThinkPad.
> | Unfortunately, it's driving me crazy, because KDE 3.2 insists on
> | writing out ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals and korgacrc every five
> | minutes or less, which keeps the disk spun up no matter what else I
> | do.  (I'm also running noflushd, though that's unlikely to help me
> | much because I'm also using ext3fs---noflushd's manpage remarks that
> | ext3 writes out its journals directly, hence bypassing noflushd's
> | efforts.)
>
> I've successfully tryed kernel 2.6.6's "laptop mode".  It delays disk
> writes, and has to be set up together with low time hd spindown & growing
> hd read ahead...
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Re: KDE is preventing laptop disk spindown by incessant configfile-writing

2004-05-19 Thread Sylvain Joyeux
I have the same problem here (writing of kdeglobals and korgacrc for no 
obvious reasons). I don't have time to check the KDE sources.

Tell me: you do want to _use_ your laptop, don't you ? If not, just put it 
into sleep :p. If you do, then you'll save data, read, whatever and - 
eventually - your HD will spin up every 5 seconds because of the ext3 commit.

I do agree that KDE shouldn't write its config files, but I don't see the 
point of (desesperately) trying to fix something which is obviously not the 
way you'll use your laptop (or at least, it is not the way I use mine ;))

If you do really want to fix that, you should take a look at tmpfs. I think 
the best way to achieve what you want is building a .kde/share/config in 
tmpfs, saving it on disk on shutdown, reading it from disk on start.

My 2 cents ...
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KDE is preventing laptop disk spindown by incessant configfile-writing

2004-05-19 Thread foner-debian-kde
***PLEASE*** KEEP ME CC'ED.  I had to go dig the messages I'm replying
to out of the archive (and almost didn't see them at all) because I'm
not on debian-kde!

I still can't keep my laptop's disk from being constantly spun up by KDE.

Thank you for the suggestions about laptop_mode and smart_spindown,
but (a) they don't work or can't be used, and (b) I think you're
missing the point.  smart_spindown and the 2.6.6 kernel laptop mode
aren't useful to me, because I'm running the 2.4 kernel.  I -did- try
setting /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode to 1, and I installed cpudyn and
configured it to spin disks down.  Neither helped.  (I haven't [yet]
fiddled with mount options to ext3 to make it flush its journals less
often.  This seems dangerous, because it raises the risk of losing
data in a crash or dead battery, and would be unnecessary if I could
just get KDE to stop prodding the disk all the time!)

If I leave the machine sitting in the GNOME Desktop Manager login
screen (e.g., freshly booted and have not yet logged in), the disk
stays spun down.  (At least for 15 minutes; that's as long as I gave
it.)  But the instant I actually log in, I get constant disk spinups,
again because I cannot keep KDE from -constantly- writing
~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals and korgacrc.  This wasn't happening
in the (much older) KDE in my Mandrake 8.2 installation.

Because the machine does NOT spin up the disk when I haven't logged
into KDE, I think I can rule out a huge number of possible random
background processes, etc---something about being logged in is doing
it, and those constantly-written config files sure seem to be the
likely suspects.  (Maybe they're being constantly read as well, or
something that's defeating any attempt to defer disk I/O?  I dunno.)

Note that I'm not automatically creating any windows when I log in, so
it's not as if, e.g., emacs is writing out stuff periodically because
of some auto-save-list-file-name setting or anything like that.  It's
just sitting there in KDE with a desktop with no windows on it.

Btw, a trivial loop reveals that those two files are being updated
-precisely- every minute.

Maybe if I just purge KOrganizer completely, it'll shut up?  It seems
to be part of kdepim, which was automatically included by something
else in my installation (probably KDE itself), so I'm unclear on
whether that's a viable option.  Maybe if I symlink those files to
/dev/null and hope nothing -actually- needs them?

I haven't (yet) reported this as a non-Debian-specific bug to the KDE
folks, mostly because they have a painful web-forms interface and
won't take mail.  I'm still hoping someone here has a useful
suggestion before I have to resort to that.

Thanks again.




Open a mail directly from kmail search results?

2004-05-19 Thread Jonathan Byrne
Using kmail 1.6.2 in KDE 3.2.2 on Sarge.

I'm sure there must be a way to open a mail directly from a kmail search 
result rather than have the main message list pane jump to that message when 
the message is clicked in the search result.  However, the handbook doesn't 
mention it and just digging around turned up nothing.  Ditto for googling.
Anybody got the magic clue for me? :-)

I hope it can be done because Kmail is worlds faster than Thunderbird on an 
IMAP mailbox with 80,000+ spams in it (no, I'm not kidding; I'm in the 
spam-filtering industry :-) and the search behavior is  the only thing 
keeping me stuck on Thunderbird for this task.  I set the search window to 
stay above others, run a search, and want any search result, when 
double-clicked, to open in a new window.  Thunderbird does.  Kmail doesn't.
Help! :)

Thanks!

Jonathan