Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-15 Thread Brian Nelson
Dominique Devriese [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Brian Nelson writes:

 IMO, the reason for the missing files is the ridiculous number of
 superfluous packages Qt has been split into.  Is it really
 necessary to have libqt3-mt-dev, libqt3-headers,
 libqt3-compat-headers, qt3-dev-tools, qt3-designer, qt3-apps-dev,
 qt3-linguist, qt3-assistant, qt3-qtconfig, qt3-dev-tools-embedded,
 qt3-dev-tools-compat, etc. (I think I even left some out!) in
 separate packages?  Just a single -dev package seems sufficient to
 me.

 It makes me wonder what kind of a bribe it took to get this past
 the ftp-masters.

 Are you sure you know what you're talking about ?  I can think of a
 lot of situations in which those tools are used in various
 different combinations, so that it really is a good idea to have
 them in separate packages.

 Huh?  That's absolutely no reason to put a bunch of small binaries
 in separate packages.  You gain nothing except unnecessary
 complexity.

 Let's see.  I don't consider these small binaries:
 qt3-assistant_3%3a3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb  229K
 qt3-designer_3%3a3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb   3,9M
 qt3-linguist_3%3a3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb   324K
 qt3-dev-tools_3%3a3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb  1,2M
 qt3-dev-tools-embedded_3%3a3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb 273K

Well, anything under 500K or so I consider to be quite small.

For a full Qt development environment (i.e. if you're doing Qt
development, you really need all this stuff) with these 3.3.2 packages,
you need:

41k  libqt3-mt-dev_3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb
2.9M libqt3c102-mt_3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb
335k libqt3-headers_3.3.2-0pre1_all.deb
71k  libqt3-compat-headers_3.3.2-0pre1_all.deb
1.1M qt3-dev-tools_3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb
5.2M qt3-doc_3.3.2-0pre1_all.deb
324k qt3-linguist_3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb
85k  qt3-qtconfig_3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb
229k qt3-assistant_3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb
80k  libqt3-i18n_3.3.2-0pre1_all.deb

Total: 11M

I left out qt3-designer because I don't use it, and to show the worst
case scenario for my argument.


A minimal build environment would require:

41k  libqt3-mt-dev_3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb
2.9M libqt3c102-mt_3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb
335k libqt3-headers_3.3.2-0pre1_all.deb
71k  libqt3-compat-headers_3.3.2-0pre1_all.deb
1.1M qt3-dev-tools_3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb

Total: 4.5M


A Non-developer user of the libraries would need:

2.9M libqt3c102-mt_3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb
85k  qt3-qtconfig_3.3.2-0pre1_i386.deb
80k  libqt3-i18n_3.3.2-0pre1_all.deb

Total: 3.0M


 Also, you must only be talking about qt3-assistant, qt3-qtconfig,
 qt3-linguist, and qt3-designer.  

 What you've said doesn't apply to headers, and who the hell knows
 what the difference between qt3-dev-tools, qt3-apps-dev, etc. is
 anyway?

 I do, and you would too if you had taken the time to look at the
 package descriptions:

 qt3-dev-tools: a number of binaries ( note: architecture dependent, so
you don't want them in an arch independent headers
package ) for normal development with Qt

Who said we need a arch-indep headers package anyway?  I don't know of
any other library packages in Debian that have one.  Hell, I co-maintain
one, if not the, largest library package in Debian and it doesn't have
headers split into a separate package.

 qt3-apps-dev: stuff you need when you're going to be doing special
   things with embedding Qt designer and stuff.  Almost
   noone needs this.

Special things?  What the hell are special things?  And the package
name in no way suggests any difference from qt3-dev-tools.

 Anyway, if you're going to be making claims like this, it would be a
 lot more useful if you could provide us with a proposal about how you
 would like to see the package split up, so we could consider this in a
 useful manner.

As I said before, I think most stuff should be moved into a single -dev
package.  For a working example, see the packages at
http://bignachos.com/~nelson/debian .

Full a full Qt development environment with these packages:

1.6Mlibqt3-mt-dev_3.3.2-1_i386.deb
3.6Mlibqt3c102-mt_3.3.2-1_i386.deb
17M qt-x11-free_3.3.2.orig.tar.gz
4.8Mqt3-dev-tools_3.3.2-1_i386.deb
6.3Mqt3-doc_3.3.2-1_all.deb

Total: 17M

So there's a 6M difference, 4M of which are due to qt3-designer (I'd
have no problem splitting out qt3-designer).  The rest of the difference
is presumably due to the random stuff missing from Madkiss's packages,
as seen in all the bug reports.


A minimal build environment would require:

1.6Mlibqt3-mt-dev_3.3.2-1_i386.deb
3.6Mlibqt3c102-mt_3.3.2-1_i386.deb

Total: 5.1M


A non-developer user would need:

3.6Mlibqt3c102-mt_3.3.2-1_i386.deb



So ultimately we're talking about a 2M difference for a developers and
600K for users or buildds, with the trade-off being far simpler packages
(8 packages vs. 23 or whatever the current number is) with fewer bugs
(no missing files).

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Bug#248468: juk: instantly crashes if output set to gstreamer

2004-06-15 Thread james mcguire
running:
#apt-get install gstreamer-plugins 
fixes that problem for me.


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Bug#227538: same problem with plastik

2004-06-15 Thread Clemens Schwaighofer
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Hi,

I have the same problem with the plastik theme in KDE. After the last
upgrade I loaded the kcontrol from xfce and selected plastik because the
former style was uninstalled, but after I started kcontrol later Plastik
was disappeared from the list, and the other themes were okay.

After reading through the list and creating a symlink from /etc/kde3 to
/usr/share/config I could see all the old themes again, but plastik is
still missing.

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Bug#254519: Can no longer manually pick a download location

2004-06-15 Thread Martijn Pieters
Package: kget
Version: 4:3.2.2-1
Severity: normal

After specifying a downloadfolder for .deb files (~/download/deb) *all*
files are automatically downloaded to that directory. Removing the
default folder listing from the 'Folders' tab didn't restore the default
behaviour of asking for a location.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.6-1-686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C

Versions of packages kget depends on:
ii  kdelibs4  4:3.2.3-2  KDE core libraries
ii  libart-2.0-2  2.3.16-5   Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libc6 2.3.2.ds1-13   GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libfam0c102   2.7.0-5client library to control the FAM 
ii  libgcc1   1:3.3.4-1  GCC support library
ii  libice6   4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libjpeg62 6b-9   The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  libpcre3  4.5-1.1Perl 5 Compatible Regular Expressi
ii  libpng12-01.2.5.0-6  PNG library - runtime
ii  libqt3c102-mt 3:3.2.3-3  Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v
ii  libsm64.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System Session Management
ii  libstdc++51:3.3.4-1  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libx11-6  4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System protocol client li
ii  libxext6  4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System miscellaneous exte
ii  libxrender1   0.8.3-7X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  xlibs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System client libraries m
ii  zlib1g1:1.2.1.1-3compression library - runtime

-- no debconf information



Bug#227538: same problem with plastik

2004-06-15 Thread Ben Burton

Hi,

 After reading through the list and creating a symlink from /etc/kde3 to
 /usr/share/config I could see all the old themes again, but plastik is
 still missing.

Try upgrading your kdeartwork-style to 3.2.3 (was uploaded about 12h
ago, should appear on the mirrors tomorrow) -- this should fix your
problem.

Ben.




Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-15 Thread Dominique Devriese
Brian Nelson writes:

 qt3-dev-tools: a number of binaries ( note: architecture dependent,
 so you don't want them in an arch independent headers package ) for
 normal development with Qt

 Who said we need a arch-indep headers package anyway?  I don't know
 of any other library packages in Debian that have one.  Hell, I
 co-maintain one, if not the, largest library package in Debian and
 it doesn't have headers split into a separate package.

It's not a requirement, but it's generally a good thing to do, to save
buildd time for arch-dep packages.  Please read the packaging policy
if you need more information.  I'm not going to criticise your
packaging of ace here.

 qt3-apps-dev: stuff you need when you're going to be doing special
 things with embedding Qt designer and stuff.  Almost noone needs
 this.

 Special things?  What the hell are special things?  

As I said: embedding Qt designer and stuff.

 And the package name in no way suggests any difference from
 qt3-dev-tools.

Then you should be complaining about the package name, not the fact
that the package exists.

 Anyway, if you're going to be making claims like this, it would be
 a lot more useful if you could provide us with a proposal about how
 you would like to see the package split up, so we could consider
 this in a useful manner.

 As I said before, I think most stuff should be moved into a single
 -dev package.  For a working example, see the packages at
 http://bignachos.com/~nelson/debian .

 snip: some usage scenario's

 So ultimately we're talking about a 2M difference for a developers
 and 600K for users or buildds, with the trade-off being far simpler
 packages (8 packages vs. 23 or whatever the current number is) 

Try to think of some more usage scenario's.  

For example: you seem to propose to not split out the compat headers,
I think this would be a very bad idea, since I rely on this in my qt
development to make sure I'm not using obsolete qt
headers. 

For another thing, Qt assistant is not only a development tool either.
Many Qt apps use it to display their documentation.  You would require
every user of such apps to install the entire development package.

You also seem to ignore non-multithreaded use of the qt libraries,
even though there are still applications depending on this.  You seem
to not want to support embedded cross-development, again without
considering people who need this.

Summarizing: Qt is a very complex package, and there are good reasons
for most, if not all split-ups.  If you want to help, it would imho be
more useful to send Martin patches for some of the real problems, as
he has already requested often.

 with fewer bugs (no missing files).

I don't see a correlation between the number of packages and the
amount of misplaced or forgotten files.  As long as the package is
split into more than one package, there can be mistakes in the
splitting I guess.

cheers
domi



Bug#254529: Konqueror crashes when copying files with same name

2004-06-15 Thread Klaas-Henning Mueller
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Konqueror crashes when copying files with same name
Package: konqueror
Version: 4:3.2.2-1, all from 3.2.x up to now

Copying or moving files directly from source to destination directory 
with both directorys opened with Konqueror, konqueror crashes and the 
kde crash manager pops up when a file with the same name exists in the 
destination directory. Konqueror does not ask to overwrite or rename 
the file, but simply crashes immediately.

I am using debian testing/unstable, kernel vanilla 2.6.6, updated every 
few days, with kde 3.2.2.




reassigning screensaver wish

2004-06-15 Thread Ben Burton

reassign 240154 kdelibs4
thanks mate

Hi.. this is a generic screensaver issue, assigning to kdelibs4
accordingly.

b.



Bug#254593: libkdefx.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7QPixmap6detachEv

2004-06-15 Thread Joerg Reckers
Package: kdelibs
Version: 4:3.2.3-2
Severity: grave

I got the following error when i try to start an application (incl kde) using 
the libkdefx libary:

 relocation error: /usr/lib/libkdefx.so.4: undefined symbol: 
_ZN7QPixmap6detachEv

/usr/lib/libkdefx.so.4 is a link to /usr/lib/libkdefx.so.4.2.0


I am running Debian Sid, debian-patched linux-kernel 2.6.6

this is my first bug-report, sorry if it has some errors, please tell me how to 
do it better, or if you need more information,
joerg



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Bug#246350: #246350 KIconLoader errors

2004-06-15 Thread Tuukka Hastrup

The issue #246350 about KIconLoader errors seems to be discussed at
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=241283

There is also a user-configurable workaround there. Good to know, because 
otherwise under GDM the ~/.xsession-errors stops quickly with:
...Too much output, ignoring rest...


With kind regards,
Tuukka Hastrup

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Bug#254595: kdm does listen on udp/177 by default

2004-06-15 Thread Markus
Package: kdm
Version: 4:3.2.2-1
Severity: minor
Tags: security


only changing the config file by hand solves this...

[Xdmcp]
Enable=false


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.6-1-686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C

Versions of packages kdm depends on:
ii  debconf   1.4.25 Debian configuration management sy
ii  kdebase-bin   4:3.2.2-1  KDE Base (binaries)
ii  kdelibs4  4:3.2.2-2  KDE core libraries
ii  libart-2.0-2  2.3.16-5   Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libc6 2.3.2.ds1-12   GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libfam0c102   2.7.0-5client library to control the FAM 
ii  libgcc1   1:3.3.3-9  GCC support library
ii  libice6   4.3.0.dfsg.1-1 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libpam-runtime0.76-21Runtime support for the PAM librar
ii  libpam0g  0.76-21Pluggable Authentication Modules l
ii  libpng12-01.2.5.0-6  PNG library - runtime
ii  libqt3c102-mt 3:3.2.3-2  Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v
ii  libsm64.3.0.dfsg.1-1 X Window System Session Management
ii  libstdc++51:3.3.3-9  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libx11-6  4.3.0.dfsg.1-1 X Window System protocol client li
ii  libxext6  4.3.0.dfsg.1-1 X Window System miscellaneous exte
ii  libxrender1   0.8.3-7X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  libxtst6  4.3.0.dfsg.1-1 X Window System event recording an
ii  xbase-clients 4.3.0.dfsg.1-1 miscellaneous X clients
ii  xlibs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-1 X Window System client libraries m
ii  zlib1g1:1.2.1.1-3compression library - runtime

-- debconf information:
  kdm/stop_running_server_with_children: false
* shared/default-x-display-manager: kdm
  kdm/daemon_name: /usr/bin/kdm



Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-15 Thread Martin Loschwitz
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 02:40:57PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
 Martin Loschwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 If your Qt package were properly maintained, I wouldn't bother you with

So you admit you are bothering? That's a point to start.

 this.  However, I think it's been in quite poor condition for a very
 long time now and I don't see them getting any better.  Furthermore, you
 completely ignore every bug filed against the package.  Start
 maintaining your package properly before you flame me.
 
The only serious trouble in Qt3 until some days ago was that XCursor made it
imposslbe to compile Qt3. Nothing else. You need to distinguish between I
think they are poorly maintained and they are poorly maintained.

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Help with Qt internationalization

2004-06-15 Thread Peter Eisentraut
I'm dealing with a bug in the Qt pluging of Licq: #123836

Licq uses the Qt interfaces for message translation.  Apparently, Qt 
ignores the standard locale environment variables.  None of

LC_ALL=fr_FR
LC_ALL=fr
LC_MESSAGES=fr_FR
LC_MESSAGES=fr

succeed to change the language.  But

LANG=fr
LANG=fr_FR

work.  I also notice that none of these environment variables work to 
change the language of a random KDE application like konsole.  Can 
anyone explain how the Qt internationalization facilities work and how 
the user is to set up his environment properly?



KDE_3_2_BRANCH: kdesdk/debian

2004-06-15 Thread Ben Burton
CVS commit by benb: 

Packaging for 3.2.3.


  M +9 -0  changelog   1.53.2.8
  M +1 -1  control   1.54.2.8
  M +2 -2  kdesdk-doc-html.doc-base.cervisia   1.1.2.2
  M +2 -2  kdesdk-doc-html.doc-base.kbabel   1.1.2.2
  M +2 -2  kdesdk-doc-html.doc-base.kcachegrind   1.1.2.2
  M +2 -2  kdesdk-doc-html.doc-base.umbrello   1.1.2.2


--- kdesdk/debian/changelog  #1.53.2.7:1.53.2.8
@@ -1,2 +1,11 @@
+kdesdk (4:3.2.3-1) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * New upstream bugfix release.
+  * Rebuilt against STL-enabled Qt and corresponding kdelibs.
+  * Use real paths for doc-base entries instead of symlinked paths
+(closes: #247690).
+
+ -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:41:42 +1000
+
 kdesdk (4:3.2.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
 

--- kdesdk/debian/control  #1.54.2.7:1.54.2.8
@@ -3,5 +3,5 @@
 Priority: optional
 Maintainer: Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Build-Depends: automake1.7, binutils-dev, bison, debhelper ( 4.0.0), flex, 
kdelibs4-dev (= 4:3.2.0), libdb4.0-dev, libqt3-mt-dev (= 3:3.2.1)
+Build-Depends: automake1.7, binutils-dev, bison, debhelper ( 4.0.0), flex, 
kdelibs4-dev (= 4:3.2.3-2), libdb4.0-dev, libqt3-mt-dev (= 3:3.2.3-3)
 Standards-Version: 3.6.1
 

--- kdesdk/debian/kdesdk-doc-html.doc-base.cervisia  #1.1.2.1:1.1.2.2
@@ -6,5 +6,5 @@
 
 Format: HTML
-Index: /usr/share/doc/cervisia/html/index.html
-Files: /usr/share/doc/cervisia/html/*.html
+Index: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/cervisia/index.html
+Files: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/cervisia/*.html
 

--- kdesdk/debian/kdesdk-doc-html.doc-base.kbabel  #1.1.2.1:1.1.2.2
@@ -9,5 +9,5 @@
 
 Format: HTML
-Index: /usr/share/doc/kbabel/html/index.html
-Files: /usr/share/doc/kbabel/html/*.html
+Index: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kbabel/index.html
+Files: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kbabel/*.html
 

--- kdesdk/debian/kdesdk-doc-html.doc-base.kcachegrind  #1.1.2.1:1.1.2.2
@@ -6,5 +6,5 @@
 
 Format: HTML
-Index: /usr/share/doc/kcachegrind/html/index.html
-Files: /usr/share/doc/kcachegrind/html/*.html
+Index: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kcachegrind/index.html
+Files: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kcachegrind/*.html
 

--- kdesdk/debian/kdesdk-doc-html.doc-base.umbrello  #1.1.2.1:1.1.2.2
@@ -8,5 +8,5 @@
 
 Format: HTML
-Index: /usr/share/doc/umbrello/html/index.html
-Files: /usr/share/doc/umbrello/html/*.html
+Index: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/umbrello/index.html
+Files: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/umbrello/*.html
 




Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-15 Thread Brian Nelson
Martin Loschwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Also, you must only be talking about qt3-assistant, qt3-qtconfig,
  qt3-linguist, and qt3-designer.  
 
  What you've said doesn't apply to headers, and who the hell knows
  what the difference between qt3-dev-tools, qt3-apps-dev, etc. is
  anyway?
 
  I do, and you would too if you had taken the time to look at the
  package descriptions:
 
  qt3-dev-tools: a number of binaries ( note: architecture dependent, so
 you don't want them in an arch independent headers
 package ) for normal development with Qt
 
 Who said we need a arch-indep headers package anyway?  I don't know of
 any other library packages in Debian that have one.  Hell, I co-maintain
 one, if not the, largest library package in Debian and it doesn't have
 headers split into a separate package.
 
 Ralf and I adopted Ivan E. Moores idea to have non-mt and mt packges since
 it is important to provide both flavours.

Back when Ivan was the maintainer, the multi-threaded version was new,
experimental, and possibly unstable, so it made sense to maintain two
versions.

However, this is no longer the case, so I question whether the
single-threaded libraries serve any useful purpose.


  Anyway, if you're going to be making claims like this, it would be a
  lot more useful if you could provide us with a proposal about how you
  would like to see the package split up, so we could consider this in a
  useful manner.
 
 As I said before, I think most stuff should be moved into a single -dev
 package.  For a working example, see the packages at
 http://bignachos.com/~nelson/debian .
 
 BRUAHAHAHAHA. Okay, I recovered from my laugh-attack, so, let's see. Let's
 just look at the .changes-file for a beginning.

 Removed the non-threaded library and plugins -- right. Who gives a damn 
 on who needs these libraries? Let's just remove them to have Qt3 split into 
 less packages!

 - Removed embedded tools
 - Removed old compatibility tools

 Yeah, of course. Give a damn on people who need these tools; who rely on 
 that they are included in the Debian packages because they are included 
 in the upstream's source tarball.

How useful are the old compatibility tools these days, considering Qt
3.0 was released years ago?  Those tools aren't built by Qt by default
and any code that is still maintained would have been ported to Qt3 long
ago.

The embedded tools I didn't build because I don't know shit about them
and would need to research them first.

In any case, I don't see any reason why both of these toolsets couldn't
be merged into qt3-dev-tools or wherever.


 * Don't enable xcursor support (Closes: #246198)

 Right. Because it's broken, we disable it instead of finding and fixing the
 problem. Disabling is massively easier than fixing anyway; only needs some
 letters in debian/rules! 

Hey, it was a quick fix to get the package to build.  I did say that I
didn't consider the packages fit for release, and this was one of the
reasons.


 Let's summarize what you can bring to the table: Packages that appear to be
 structured less complicated and which turn out to be nothing but castrated
 if you look at them closely. And some wild number games, of course. I don't
 know what your original intention was but to me it seems that all you do is
 trolling to gain attention.

 Don't expect me to treat you with only a little amount of seriousness; don't
 expect me to deal with you anymore.

If your Qt package were properly maintained, I wouldn't bother you with
this.  However, I think it's been in quite poor condition for a very
long time now and I don't see them getting any better.  Furthermore, you
completely ignore every bug filed against the package.  Start
maintaining your package properly before you flame me.

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KDE_3_2_BRANCH: kdesdk/debian

2004-06-15 Thread Ben Burton
CVS commit by benb: 

Lintian cleanness.


  Asource.lintian-overrides   1.1.2.1
  M +2 -0  changelog   1.53.2.9
  M +1 -1  control   1.54.2.9


--- kdesdk/debian/changelog  #1.53.2.8:1.53.2.9
@@ -5,4 +5,6 @@
   * Use real paths for doc-base entries instead of symlinked paths
 (closes: #247690).
+  * Suggests (konqueror | www-browser) for kdesdk-doc-html instead of
+just www-browser.
 
  -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:41:42 +1000

--- kdesdk/debian/control  #1.54.2.8:1.54.2.9
@@ -18,5 +18,5 @@
 Architecture: all
 Section: doc
-Suggests: www-browser, kdesdk
+Suggests: konqueror | www-browser, kdesdk
 Replaces: cervisia ( 4:3.2.0), kbabel ( 4:3.2.0), kbugbuster ( 4:3.2.0), 
kompare ( 4:3.2.0)
 Description: KDE Software Development Kit documentation in HTML format




kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture

2004-06-15 Thread Peter Rockai
CVS commit by mornfall: 

- get CElemPtr stuff into shape; mostly (still crashy with delete on
  deref on... some ref is slipping me, damnit)
- template ParamT; works, looks good
- optimize out some not-really-neccessary loops
- safe CElemPtr's... looks good, seems worky
(this commit was brought to you by a herd of flying plusses)


  M +122 -41   libcapture/celem.h   1.4
  M +8 -6  libcapture/depgroupers.cpp   1.16
  M +1 -0  libcapture/depgroupers.h   1.11
  M +6 -6  libcapture/filters.cpp   1.17
  M +2 -2  libcapture/grouper.cpp   1.25
  M +20 -0 libcapture/param.h   1.5
  M +31 -7 libcapture/pkgmanager.cpp   1.25
  M +7 -3  libcapture/pkgmanager.h   1.18
  M +35 -15libcapture/safeiterators.cpp   1.4
  M +22 -17libcapture/safeiterators.h   1.4
  M +1 -1  libcapture/tree.cpp   1.20
  M +3 -2  libcapture/treefactory.h   1.6
  M +1 -1  libcapture/treenode.cpp   1.8
  M +4 -4  libcapture/treenode.h   1.10
  M +1 -1  libkapture/listtreeview.cpp   1.14
  M +9 -9  libkapture/listtreewidget.cpp   1.23
  M +4 -4  libkapture/listtreewidget.h   1.15
  M +6 -6  libkapture/pkgcelemview.cpp   1.6
  M +1 -1  libkapture/pkgcelemview.h   1.4





KDE_3_2_BRANCH: kdesdk/debian

2004-06-15 Thread Ben Burton
CVS commit by benb: 

Fixed in 3.2.3.


  M +2 -0  changelog   1.53.2.10


--- kdesdk/debian/changelog  #1.53.2.9:1.53.2.10
@@ -7,4 +7,6 @@
   * Suggests (konqueror | www-browser) for kdesdk-doc-html instead of
 just www-browser.
+  * KBabel catalogue manager no longer opens spurious empty windows
+(closes: #237031).
 
  -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:41:42 +1000




Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-15 Thread Christopher Martin
On June 15, 2004 18:27, Martin Loschwitz wrote:
 The only serious trouble in Qt3 until some days ago was that XCursor
 made it imposslbe to compile Qt3. Nothing else. You need to distinguish
 between I think they are poorly maintained and they are poorly
 maintained.

I'm not qualified to judge how best to carve up the packages, but the 
simple fact is that Qt3 was being poorly maintained. In fact, for all 
intents and purposes, Qt was completely unmaintained, and that's not good 
enough for a crucial package. You are no doubt aware that this isn't the 
first round of openly expressed discontent with the state of Qt, since 
you took it over. Generally, you seem to have an extremely lax conception 
of what maintaining a package involves. Suffice it to say that frequent 
updates, a lively interest and open communication on all your bugs, 
careful attempts to meet user demands where at all possible, and an 
immediate response to RC problems, are simply the bare minimum that 
Debian demands, or should demand, of a maintainer. If you were too busy 
and needed help, you should have asked for it a long time ago.

I've listed some of what needs to be fixed and improved in some of my 
earlier posts in this thread. I'm sure others could list more. Your 
latest packages are a great move in the right direction, and I thank you 
for them, but a great deal remains to be done.

Christopher Martin



Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-15 Thread Chris Cheney
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 11:08:52AM +0200, Dominique Devriese wrote:
 Brian Nelson writes:
 
  qt3-dev-tools: a number of binaries ( note: architecture dependent,
  so you don't want them in an arch independent headers package ) for
  normal development with Qt
 
  Who said we need a arch-indep headers package anyway?  I don't know
  of any other library packages in Debian that have one.  Hell, I
  co-maintain one, if not the, largest library package in Debian and
  it doesn't have headers split into a separate package.
 
 It's not a requirement, but it's generally a good thing to do, to save
 buildd time for arch-dep packages.  Please read the packaging policy
 if you need more information.  I'm not going to criticise your
 packaging of ace here.

How does having part of the package arch-indep actually save any
significant amount of time? Instead, it actually wastes a lot of
buildd time since by having part of the dev packaging be indep it
causes anything building against qt to ftbfs anytime a new qt is
uploaded. This is because the version of the arch-dep -dev package
depends on is no longer available until it has been built on that arch.
Some people don't believe this is an issue but it has bitten KDE _many_
times. This problem is going to have to be solved from an archive
standpoint before multiarch is started but right now it is already a
very big issue with qt.

 You also seem to ignore non-multithreaded use of the qt libraries,
 even though there are still applications depending on this.  You seem
 to not want to support embedded cross-development, again without
 considering people who need this.

There are only two packages that use non-multithreaded version and could
probably use it if we kicked their maintainers.

qterm
vipec

Chris


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Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-15 Thread Chris Cheney
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 02:40:57PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
 Martin Loschwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Also, you must only be talking about qt3-assistant, qt3-qtconfig,
   qt3-linguist, and qt3-designer.  
  
   What you've said doesn't apply to headers, and who the hell knows
   what the difference between qt3-dev-tools, qt3-apps-dev, etc. is
   anyway?
  
   I do, and you would too if you had taken the time to look at the
   package descriptions:
  
   qt3-dev-tools: a number of binaries ( note: architecture dependent, so
  you don't want them in an arch independent headers
  package ) for normal development with Qt
  
  Who said we need a arch-indep headers package anyway?  I don't know of
  any other library packages in Debian that have one.  Hell, I co-maintain
  one, if not the, largest library package in Debian and it doesn't have
  headers split into a separate package.
  
  Ralf and I adopted Ivan E. Moores idea to have non-mt and mt packges since
  it is important to provide both flavours.
 
 Back when Ivan was the maintainer, the multi-threaded version was new,
 experimental, and possibly unstable, so it made sense to maintain two
 versions.
 
 However, this is no longer the case, so I question whether the
 single-threaded libraries serve any useful purpose.

I believe this is the primary reason qt3 has both flavors in Debian
still. Back when Ivan maintained qt2/qt3 he made the packaging the same
for both iirc. qt2's -mt package was considered very experimental and
pretty much nothing used it. However, qt3's -mt package was considered
stable and nearly everything converted over to using it, right now only
2 packages in Debian are built against the non-multithreaded version and
that is probably just because the maintainer didn't know what they were
doing.

Chris


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Re: Announcing the availability of first Qt 3.3 packages

2004-06-15 Thread Chris Cheney
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 05:43:33PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
 
 Why do you insist so stubbornly on maintaining the package?  You don't
 take very good care of it, and you've said in the past that you don't
 even do any Qt development.

If you saw Qt before a few of us beat on it around April 2002 you would
understand why no one else _wants_ to maintain it. Trolltech is very
lacking in clue and had to be constantly beat on to do things
competently. They may be getting better but from what I have heard
recently they are still pretty incompetent. I was originally going to
maintain Qt as well but ran away screaming. ;) Thats pretty bad
considering the shape KDE was in at the time as well...

Chris


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kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/libcapture

2004-06-15 Thread Peter Rockai
CVS commit by mornfall: 

... fix the CElemSPtr to not fuck up refcounting ...
... or at least not to free up referenced memory ...
... needs some fixes; and cleanup redundant code ...


  M +5 -2  celem.h   1.5
  M +1 -2  depgroupers.cpp   1.17
  M +3 -1  filters.cpp   1.18
  M +8 -6  safeiterators.cpp   1.5
  M +29 -4 safeiterators.h   1.5





kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/libcapture

2004-06-15 Thread Peter Rockai
CVS commit by mornfall: 

fix include_HEADERS, so that make runs...


  M +1 -1  Makefile.am   1.16


--- kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/libcapture/Makefile.am  #1.15:1.16
@@ -7,5 +7,5 @@
 
 # these are the headers for your project
-include_HEADERS = DebDBParser.h depgroupers.h filters.h grouper.h pkgcache.h 
pkggroup.h pkgmanager.h pkgtags.h safeiterators.h stl_util.h tagcollbuilder.h 
treebranchnode.h treedepnode.h treefactory.h treegroupnode.h tree.h treenode.h 
treepkgnode.h treevernode.h treevisitor.h Vocabulary.h ZlibParserInput.h celem.h
+include_HEADERS = DebDBParser.h depgroupers.h filters.h grouper.h pkgcache.h 
pkggroup.h pkgmanager.h pkgtags.h safeiterators.h stl_util.h tagcollbuilder.h 
treefactory.h tree.h treenode.h treevisitor.h Vocabulary.h ZlibParserInput.h 
celem.h
 
 # let automoc handle all of the meta source files (moc)




kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture

2004-06-15 Thread Peter Rockai
CVS commit by mornfall: 

Fix bunch of warnings. Yes, it still compiles  runs. Found another bug
tho, out to fix that...


  M +2 -3  kapture/Makefile.am   1.13
  M +6 -7  kapture/kapture.cpp   1.24
  M +0 -4  kapture/kapture.h   1.10
  M +2 -1  libcapture/pkgmanager.cpp   1.26
  M +2 -0  libcapture/stl_util.cpp   1.4


--- kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/kapture/Makefile.am  #1.12:1.13
@@ -19,9 +19,8 @@
 
 # which sources should be compiled for kapture
-kapture_SOURCES =   main.cpp kapture.cpp kaptureview.cpp \
-kapturepref.cpp
+kapture_SOURCES =   main.cpp kapture.cpp kapturepref.cpp
 
 # these are the headers for your project
-noinst_HEADERS   = kapture.h kaptureview.h kapturepref.h
+noinst_HEADERS   = kapture.h kapturepref.h
 
 # let automoc handle all of the meta source files (moc)

--- kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/kapture/kapture.cpp  #1.23:1.24
@@ -33,4 +33,5 @@
 #include qtimer.h
 #include kde_terminal_interface.h
+#include kparts/part.h
 
 #include libcapture/grouper.h
@@ -50,6 +51,5 @@ using namespace kapture;
 /* {{{ */
 Kapture::Kapture()
-: KDockMainWindow (0, Kapture),
-m_printer(0)
+: KDockMainWindow (0, Kapture)
 {
 // accept dnd
@@ -190,5 +190,4 @@ Kapture::~Kapture()
 kdDebug ()  Kapture::~Kapture  endl;
 // PkgManager::destroy ();
-delete m_printer;
 }
 /* }}} */
@@ -244,5 +243,5 @@ void Kapture::saveProperties(KConfig *co
 // later when this app is restored
 
-if (!m_view-currentURL().isNull()) {
+/* if (!m_view-currentURL().isNull()) {
 #if KDE_IS_VERSION(3,1,3)
 config-writePathEntry(lastURL, m_view-currentURL());
@@ -250,5 +249,5 @@ void Kapture::saveProperties(KConfig *co
 config-writeEntry(lastURL, m_view-currentURL());
 #endif
-}
+} */
 }
 /* }}} */
@@ -263,6 +262,6 @@ void Kapture::readProperties(KConfig *co
 QString url = config-readPathEntry(lastURL);
 
-if (!url.isEmpty())
-m_view-openURL(KURL::fromPathOrURL(url));
+/* if (!url.isEmpty())
+m_view-openURL(KURL::fromPathOrURL(url)); */
 }
 /* }}} */

--- kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/kapture/kapture.h  #1.9:1.10
@@ -11,6 +11,4 @@
 #include kdockwidget.h
 
-#include kaptureview.h
-
 class KPrinter;
 class KTabWidget;
@@ -87,6 +85,4 @@ class Kapture : public KDockMainWindow
 void setupAccel();
 void setupActions();
-KaptureView *m_view;
-KPrinter   *m_printer;
 };
 

--- kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/libcapture/pkgmanager.cpp  #1.25:1.26
@@ -93,4 +93,5 @@ bool PkgManager::loadAll ()
 m_notify = n;
 notifyRebuild ();
+return r;
 }
 /* {{{ */
@@ -514,5 +515,5 @@ bool PkgManager::doCommit (CommitStatus 
 _system-UnLock();
 
-int count = 0;
+unsigned count = 0;
 for (pkgCache::PkgIterator mP = m_cache - PkgBegin (); ! mP . end (); mP 
++) {
 if (m_cache [mP] . Delete ()) {

--- kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/libcapture/stl_util.cpp  #1.3:1.4
@@ -91,4 +91,5 @@ static string escape( string s, string d
 }
 /* }}} */
+#if 0
 /* {{{ */
 static liststring explode_helper (string s, string delim)
@@ -106,4 +107,5 @@ static liststring explode_helper (stri
 }
 /* }}} */
+#endif
 /* {{{ */
 liststring capture::explode (string s, string delim)




kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/libcapture

2004-06-15 Thread Peter Rockai
CVS commit by mornfall: 

Fix Depends node creation (busted in process of DepCElem(S)Ptr
debugging).


  M +1 -1  depgroupers.cpp   1.18


--- kdenonbeta/kdedebian/kapture/libcapture/depgroupers.cpp  #1.17:1.18
@@ -78,5 +78,5 @@ void Pkg2DepGrouper::addNode (TreeNode *
 d - addDepend (D); */
 } else {
-d = m_treeFact - make (0, de);
+d = m_treeFact - make (0, new DepCElem (*de));
 cerr  new depend (  d  , parent = 
  (n ? n : r)




Bug#254643: When will the Export to nokia mobile phone support be compiled back in to kaddressbook?

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Matthews
Package: kaddressbook
Version: 4:3.2.2-2
Severity: wishlist

Hi,

I was just wondering when we can expect Export to nokia mobile phone
support to compiled back in the the unstable kaddressbook?


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.6-2
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C

Versions of packages kaddressbook depends on:
ii  kdelibs4  4:3.2.3-2  KDE core libraries
ii  libart-2.0-2  2.3.16-5   Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libc6 2.3.2.ds1-13   GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libfam0c102   2.7.0-5client library to control the FAM 
ii  libgcc1   1:3.3.4-1  GCC support library
ii  libice6   4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libjpeg62 6b-9   The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  libkdepim14:3.2.2-2  KDE PIM library
ii  libpcre3  4.5-1.1Perl 5 Compatible Regular Expressi
ii  libpng12-01.2.5.0-6  PNG library - runtime
ii  libqt3c102-mt 3:3.2.3-3  Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v
ii  libsm64.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System Session Management
ii  libstdc++51:3.3.4-1  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libx11-6  4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System protocol client li
ii  libxext6  4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System miscellaneous exte
ii  libxpm4   4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X pixmap library
ii  libxrender1   0.8.3-7X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  xlibs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System client libraries m
ii  zlib1g1:1.2.1.1-3compression library - runtime

-- no debconf information



Re: Package Misconfiguration

2004-06-15 Thread Wolfgang Mader

  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
  reinstall it before attempting a removal.

Try apt-get intall --reinstall




Re: what happened to qtcups ?

2004-06-15 Thread Silvan
On Monday 14 June 2004 10:11 am, James D. Freels wrote:

 I have found qtcups very handy for printing a document using cups and
 the kde interface.  Apparently in the latest round of upgrades to
 kde/cups, this package went away.  What are the alternatives and is it
 possible to put it back (guess I could try a build from source).

Try kprinter.  It's better anyway.

-- 
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Re: screensavers can't be configured anymore in kde 3.2.2

2004-06-15 Thread Frans Pop
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On Monday 24 May 2004 00:15, Nick Leverton wrote:
 On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 12:42:39AM +0100, Nick Boyce wrote:
  BTW I see there is another related-sounding bug already filed :
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=208769
KDE lists screensavers that aren't installed
  (filed in September 2003)
  as well as Frans's
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=243150
Can't configure some screensavers any more

 And http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=245894
 kcontrol: Cannot configure The Matrix screensaver

Good news!
I did an strace this weekend and managed to locate the probable cause [1].
After that Ben Burton has been very quick to squash the bug (thanks Ben!).

I think the new packages (4:3.2.3-1) are already in the pipeline and hopefully 
will be in testing pretty soon [2].

[1] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83324
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=243150
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Re: screensavers can't be configured anymore in kde 3.2.2

2004-06-15 Thread Ben Burton

 I did an strace this weekend and managed to locate the probable cause [1].

Much appreciated btw. :)

b.