Re: Konqueror (in file manager) doesn't automatically refresh file list and stats.

2005-05-24 Thread Silvan
On Tuesday 24 May 2005 09:07 am, Andrew Kovacs wrote:

> if I view a directory in Konqueror that contains a file being downloaded,
> Konqueror shows no changes.  If I dual-boot into my old Mandrake 10.0
> system and do the same thing, it shows every .1Mb increment in the file
> size during the download.  As if in real-time.

OK, I have 3.4 from Alioth too.  I tried this test.  Browser looking at 
~/Desktop where Time Machine is recording a .wav file.  Changing views does 
not trigger an update of the size.  The only way to trigger such an update is 
to look somewhere else and then come back here, at which point I get a new 
snapshot of the ever-growing size.

I'd be looking at other things then.  Mandrake isn't Debian.  Mandrake does 
lots of hacky, custom things (like automount, for example.)  So does Ubuntu, 
for example, or any of several dozen other distros across the board.  I'd say 
if this isn't some KDE version thing then it's probably some little hack that 
Mandrake does and Debian doesn't.

famd says it detects changes in the file.  Does changing the size constitute a 
"change" in the file to famd?  I have no idea, and I'm not bored enough to go 
get the source and try to figure out the answer to that question.

If you really want to make Debian behave the same as Mandrake in this respect, 
I'd say you've got yourself a bonafine adventure on your hands.  I can't 
imagine that it could possibly be worth the effort, but to each his own hack, 
I say.  If this floats your boat, dig in.

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Re: dist-upgrade using http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/

2005-05-24 Thread Greg Madden
On Tuesday 24 May 2005 09:03 am, R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I want to install KDE 3.4 on my PC using Debian apt-get.
>
> I followed the wiki at
>
> http://wiki.debian.net/?Kde34
>
> added the line
>
> deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/ ./
>
> to /etc/apt/sources.list and did a dist-upgrade.
>
> I get the following message:
>
> The following packages have been kept back:
>kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 nvidia-glx
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
>
> The packages kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 and nvidia-glx are held back
> manually by my selections, but if I try
>
> apt-get install kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
>
> I get a message ending
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>kdenetwork-kfile-plugins: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.0) but
> 4:3.3.2-6 is to be installed
>
> FYI, I have done
>
> apt-get install kde
>
> and the version of the kde metapackage is 5:44.  I think my existing
> KDE installation 3.3.2 is whole and unbroken.
>
> apt-get install -tPackage: *
Pin: release a=sarge
Pin-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 70
 unstable kde
>
> brings the message
>
> kde is already the newest version.
>
> My /etc/apt/preferences file has the following settings:
> 
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=stable
> Pin-Priority: 500
>
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=testing
> Pin-Priority: 600
>
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=unstable
> Pin-Priority: 50
>
> 
>
> What must I do to upgrade to KDE 3.4 on my PC?
>
> Please copy replies to my email address.

I just did this to my Sarge workstation. The only difference I see is my 
preferences file, and I used deslect to do the upgrade, no warnings 
though.  I only have Sarge official sources , plus the 
~alioth.debian.org source line in my sources.list file.

Package: *
Pin: release a=sarge
Pin-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 70

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Re: Konqueror (in file manager) doesn't automatically refresh file list and stats.

2005-05-24 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag, 24. Mai 2005 15:07 schrieb Andrew Kovacs:
> I tried creating a new test user, (as David Pye suggested) as a way of
> safely auto-generating the local .kde settings, but this made no difference
> to the 'Konqueror not refreshing' problem.
>
> If I cp a file (using Konsole) to a directory currently being viewed by
> Konqueror, then it appears, and if I rm that same file, it disappears, but
> if I view a directory in Konqueror that contains a file being downloaded,
> Konqueror shows no changes.  If I dual-boot into my old Mandrake 10.0
> system and do the same thing, it shows every .1Mb increment in the file
> size during the download.  As if in real-time.
>
> Anyone else have any ideas?

You use the same Filesystem and the same Kernel (with same configuration) and 
same KDE version in both installations?

HS


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dist-upgrade using http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/

2005-05-24 Thread R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar

Folks,

I want to install KDE 3.4 on my PC using Debian apt-get.

I followed the wiki at

http://wiki.debian.net/?Kde34

added the line

deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/ ./

to /etc/apt/sources.list and did a dist-upgrade.

I get the following message:

The following packages have been kept back:
  kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 nvidia-glx
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.

The packages kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 and nvidia-glx are held back 
manually by my selections, but if I try


apt-get install kdenetwork-kfile-plugins

I get a message ending

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kdenetwork-kfile-plugins: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.0) but 
4:3.3.2-6 is to be installed


FYI, I have done

apt-get install kde

and the version of the kde metapackage is 5:44.  I think my existing KDE 
installation 3.3.2 is whole and unbroken.


apt-get install -t unstable kde

brings the message

kde is already the newest version.

My /etc/apt/preferences file has the following settings:

Package: *
Pin: release a=stable
Pin-Priority: 500

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 600

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 50



What must I do to upgrade to KDE 3.4 on my PC?

Please copy replies to my email address.

Thank you.

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Re: Menus

2005-05-24 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday 24 May 2005 18:23, Derek Broughton wrote:
> Can someone either describe, or point me to a description, of the KDE menu
> system, please?

As of KDE3.2 the menu is build after the freedesktop.org menu specification.

This means that application menu entries are described by .desktop files 
under /usr/share/application or more precisely in any directory listed by
#> kde-config --path xdgdata-apps

The structure is described by .menu files under /etc/xdg/menus or more 
precisely and directory under
#> kde-config --path xdgconf-menu

> Also, iirc, KDE used to have a program that would find .desktop files and
> add them to the K menu.  If it still exists, kubuntu doesn't put it onto a
> menu. What program is it?

kappfinder

Cheers,
Kevin


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Menus

2005-05-24 Thread Derek Broughton
Can someone either describe, or point me to a description, of the KDE menu 
system, please?

I installed Crossover last week, and it failed to create any menu entries 
(though it created Desktop shortcuts).  It seems to me that I should be able 
to just copy those shortcuts to the correct place in the menu structure, if I 
even knew where that was.

Also, iirc, KDE used to have a program that would find .desktop files and add 
them to the K menu.  If it still exists, kubuntu doesn't put it onto a menu.  
What program is it?
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Re: Re: Re: Konqueror (in file manager) doesn't automatically refresh file list and stats.

2005-05-24 Thread Andrew Kovacs
Hi All,

I tried creating a new test user, (as David Pye suggested) as a way of safely 
auto-generating the local .kde settings, but this made no difference to the 
'Konqueror not refreshing' problem.

If I cp a file (using Konsole) to a directory currently being viewed by 
Konqueror, then it appears, and if I rm that same file, it disappears, but if 
I view a directory in Konqueror that contains a file being downloaded, 
Konqueror shows no changes.  If I dual-boot into my old Mandrake 10.0 system 
and do the same thing, it shows every .1Mb increment in the file size during 
the download.  As if in real-time.

Anyone else have any ideas?

Regards,
Andrew


On Mon, 23 May 2005 08:05, Andrew Kovacs wrote:

> On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:12, David Pye wrote:
> 
> > On Sunday 22 May 2005 20:20, Yitzhak Grossman wrote:
> > > Why not just move .kde somewhere else and see what
> > > happens. You can always move it back if something goes
> > > wrong.
> > 
> > Or why not just create a fresh user, and try logging in as them and see if 
> > things work correctly there?
> 
> Thanks David, I hadn't thought of that.  I can see whether the 
auto-generated 
> settings would fix the problem without the risk of messing up my existing 
> user session.
> 
> I'll try it when I get home from work tonight.
> 
> > 
> > David
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew


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