Re: For sid users: An overview of the KDE C++ ABI transition

2005-08-19 Thread Keith Schweikhard
I think I know what the response will be but I will ask the question anyway.  
I am currently running KDE 3.3.2 using Debian unstable and a hand rolled 
2.6.10 kernel.  I need to update my kernel to include a missing switch.  When 
I started by trying to download the 2.6.11 kernel source and ran into a 
conflict since the kernel-source package generates a libqt3-mt-dev 
dependency.  This dependency "breaks" KDE since libqt3-mt-dev depends on 
libqt3-mt.  (Note: the dev packages all broke when you started the upgrade so 
they got removed from my machine before I fully understood path the kde 
transition was taking.)  I can download and install the kernel-source package 
manually (using dselect makes a recommended dependency a requirement) but can 
not do a make xconfig.  I can do a make menuconfig but doing this makes 
configuring the kernel difficult.  Is there a work around that would allow me 
to load the libqt3-mt-dev libraries (or equivalent) so I avoid the headache 
of reverting back to make menuconfig?


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Konqueror missing help/handbook

2005-08-19 Thread marc
Hi,

I just installed Krusader v1.51 from the Debian 3.1 disks and the help 
link reports that the help file could not be found.

I'm sure this must be known, but I couldn't find any mention of it.

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File manager alternatives?

2005-08-19 Thread marc
Hi,

Konqueror doesn't cut it for me as a file manager. Sorry. For web 
browsing, I use Firefox, so it's only the file management features that 
I'm looking for.

On XP, I use Directory Opus - which is a piece of work worthy of Linux - 
although I don't expect to find something as functional on Linux... yet, 
since Opus is tightly bound to the Windows core.

Is the current best of the bunch generally considered to be Krusader?

Or are there any others worth a look?

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Re: Personalizar o KDE

2005-08-19 Thread Flávio Granato
você poderia usar a licença creatives commons, que está inclusive
disponível em português.

Em 19/08/05, Tiago Meireles<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
> Galera, estou trabalhando num projeto de implantação de Linux na minha
> empresa e tenho algumas idéias pra personalizar o KDE. Nada além de
> alguns wallpapers e ícones para aplicações específicas. Não vou ter
> tempo pra trabalhar nisso então um amigo meu que manja de imagens se
> ofereceu pra fazer, achei ótimo mas me preocupa o seguinte: se um dia
> ele resolve dizer que criou as imagens e quer cobrar por isso, como a
> empresa poderia se defender? Como isso pode ser licenciado? Por ser em
> linux há licença GPL que regularize esse tipo de criação também?
> Informações seriam muito úteis.
> 
> Grato
> 
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Re: Personalizar o KDE

2005-08-19 Thread Eduardo Nakamatu(GMAIl)
Pega um mail dele dizendo que ta fazendo essas imagens numa boa, sem 
cobranca



nAKAMATU

Tiago Meireles wrote:

Galera, estou trabalhando num projeto de implantação de Linux na minha 
empresa e tenho algumas idéias pra personalizar o KDE. Nada além de 
alguns wallpapers e ícones para aplicações específicas. Não vou ter 
tempo pra trabalhar nisso então um amigo meu que manja de imagens se 
ofereceu pra fazer, achei ótimo mas me preocupa o seguinte: se um dia 
ele resolve dizer que criou as imagens e quer cobrar por isso, como a 
empresa poderia se defender? Como isso pode ser licenciado? Por ser em 
linux há licença GPL que regularize esse tipo de criação também?

Informações seriam muito úteis.

Grato







Personalizar o KDE

2005-08-19 Thread Tiago Meireles
Galera, estou trabalhando num projeto de implantação de Linux na minha 
empresa e tenho algumas idéias pra personalizar o KDE. Nada além de 
alguns wallpapers e ícones para aplicações específicas. Não vou ter 
tempo pra trabalhar nisso então um amigo meu que manja de imagens se 
ofereceu pra fazer, achei ótimo mas me preocupa o seguinte: se um dia 
ele resolve dizer que criou as imagens e quer cobrar por isso, como a 
empresa poderia se defender? Como isso pode ser licenciado? Por ser em 
linux há licença GPL que regularize esse tipo de criação também?

Informações seriam muito úteis.

Grato


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Re: branches/KDE/3.4/kdepim/libkcal

2005-08-19 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Ven 19 Août 2005 21:50, André Wöbbeking a écrit :
> On Friday 19 August 2005 21:14, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Le Ven 19 Août 2005 20:40, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit :
> > > It seems that gcc 4.0 is no longer initializing all members of a
> > > struct, while gcc 3.3.x obviously did something like that.
> >
> > Then it's a gcc bug.
> >
> > when you write :
> >
> > Type1 func(...) {
> > Type foo;
> > }
> >
> > AFAIK either Type is a class, and then it's () constructor is
> > called, else if it's a struct, a default constructor is called,
> > that does the same as in C : it allocates enough space to make the
> > struct live in it,
>
> correct
>
> > and then sets all its bits to 0.
>
> since when? You've to initialize PODs (bool, int, pointer, ...)
> yourself in C and C++.

okay, you're correct, I just checked in my books. I do too many C those 
days, sorry for the noise.

gcc 4 is *not* wrong, though it should have a warning for that ...
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Re: branches/KDE/3.4/kdepim/libkcal

2005-08-19 Thread André Wöbbeking
On Friday 19 August 2005 21:14, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le Ven 19 Août 2005 20:40, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit :
> > It seems that gcc 4.0 is no longer initializing all members of a
> > struct, while gcc 3.3.x obviously did something like that.
>
> Then it's a gcc bug.
>
> when you write :
>
> Type1 func(...) {
> Type foo;
> }
>
> AFAIK either Type is a class, and then it's () constructor is called,
> else if it's a struct, a default constructor is called, that does the
> same as in C : it allocates enough space to make the struct live in
> it,

correct

> and then sets all its bits to 0. 

since when? You've to initialize PODs (bool, int, pointer, ...) yourself 
in C and C++.



Re: branches/KDE/3.4/kdepim/libkcal

2005-08-19 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Reinhold Kainhofer [Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:40:03 +]:

> SVN commit 451025 by kainhofe:

> ARRRGGH! Just when we release kde 3.4.2, a nasty bug in connection with gcc 
> 4.0 (NOT with 3.3.x, which I use) creeps up:
> It seems that gcc 4.0 is no longer initializing all members of a struct, 
> while gcc 3.3.x obviously did something like that. So we can't simply take a 
> new icaltime structure, since its member will be initialized with random 
> values in gcc 4.0. So everything that later on checks the members of the 
> struct will work on uninitialized values! Rather, we need to use a null time 
> (all fields initialized to 0) and set all necessary fields later on. 
> This fixes the end date corruption (only of all-day events) that vanRijn and 
> and Will are observing with their gcc 4.0-compiled kdepim.

> If any distribution is using kde 3.4.2 compiled with gcc 4.0, I suppose this 
> fix needs to go in!

  Thanks for this notice, Reinhold! I'm notifying our kdepim maintainer,
  but perhaps you'd wish to mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] too? That way,
  other distributions will be aware too.

> (Backport of commit 451010 from the 3.5 branch)

> CCMAIL: debian-kde@lists.debian.org



>  M  +2 -2  icalformatimpl.cpp  


> --- branches/KDE/3.4/kdepim/libkcal/icalformatimpl.cpp #451024:451025
> @@ -2107,7 +2107,7 @@

>  icaltimetype ICalFormatImpl::writeICalDate(const QDate &date)
>  {
> -  icaltimetype t;
> +  icaltimetype t = icaltime_null_time();

>t.year = date.year();
>t.month = date.month();
> @@ -2128,7 +2128,7 @@

>  icaltimetype ICalFormatImpl::writeICalDateTime(const QDateTime &datetime)
>  {
> -  icaltimetype t;
> +  icaltimetype t = icaltime_null_time();

>t.year = datetime.date().year();
>t.month = datetime.date().month();



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Re: branches/KDE/3.4/kdepim/libkcal

2005-08-19 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Ven 19 Août 2005 20:40, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit :
> It seems that gcc 4.0 is no longer initializing all members of a
> struct, while gcc 3.3.x obviously did something like that.

Then it's a gcc bug.

when you write :

Type1 func(...) {
Type foo;
}

AFAIK either Type is a class, and then it's () constructor is called, 
else if it's a struct, a default constructor is called, that does the 
same as in C : it allocates enough space to make the struct live in it, 
and then sets all its bits to 0.

If you have evidences that it's not done, I suggest you to bug gcc since 
a really serious problem.

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branches/KDE/3.4/kdepim/libkcal

2005-08-19 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
SVN commit 451025 by kainhofe:

ARRRGGH! Just when we release kde 3.4.2, a nasty bug in connection with gcc 4.0 
(NOT with 3.3.x, which I use) creeps up:
It seems that gcc 4.0 is no longer initializing all members of a struct, while 
gcc 3.3.x obviously did something like that. So we can't simply take a new 
icaltime structure, since its member will be initialized with random values in 
gcc 4.0. So everything that later on checks the members of the struct will work 
on uninitialized values! Rather, we need to use a null time (all fields 
initialized to 0) and set all necessary fields later on. 
This fixes the end date corruption (only of all-day events) that vanRijn and 
and Will are observing with their gcc 4.0-compiled kdepim.

If any distribution is using kde 3.4.2 compiled with gcc 4.0, I suppose this 
fix needs to go in!

(Backport of commit 451010 from the 3.5 branch)

CCMAIL: debian-kde@lists.debian.org



 M  +2 -2  icalformatimpl.cpp  


--- branches/KDE/3.4/kdepim/libkcal/icalformatimpl.cpp #451024:451025
@@ -2107,7 +2107,7 @@
 
 icaltimetype ICalFormatImpl::writeICalDate(const QDate &date)
 {
-  icaltimetype t;
+  icaltimetype t = icaltime_null_time();
 
   t.year = date.year();
   t.month = date.month();
@@ -2128,7 +2128,7 @@
 
 icaltimetype ICalFormatImpl::writeICalDateTime(const QDateTime &datetime)
 {
-  icaltimetype t;
+  icaltimetype t = icaltime_null_time();
 
   t.year = datetime.date().year();
   t.month = datetime.date().month();


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Re: Sudden logouts (was: Just wondering...)

2005-08-19 Thread David Martínez Moreno
El Jueves, 18 de Agosto de 2005 23:27, Anders Breindahl escribió:
> On Wednesday 17 August 2005 15:55, Richard Wegner wrote:
[...]
> I have no idea, but I seem to replicate the problem. I was just doing some
> work around the house, having xmms running on a net radio. Suddenly the
> music stops, and I off course blame the net radio.
>
> However, when I return to my system, I see that I've been logged out. I am
> not exactly sure of the time it happened, but in the syslog this entry
> seems suspicious:
>
> Aug 18 23:04:23 localhost kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant
> device at :00:00.0.
> Aug 18 23:04:23 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at
> :00:00.0 into 1x mode
> Aug 18 23:04:23 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at
> :01:00.0 into 1x mode
> Aug 18 23:04:24 localhost kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode
>
> Does something like this happen to you, Richard?

Those sudden logout are mostly due to your X Window System crashing, 
and 
given that xdm/kdm is respawning, a new instance of xdm/kdm is launched and 
you see the log-in screen. Check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log,

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Re: Just wondering...

2005-08-19 Thread Børre Gaup
Gaskavahkku, borgemánu 17. b.  2005 15:55, Richard Wegner čálii:
> Hi there,
>
> I am currently running Debian 3.1 and have no major problems except one:
>
> Sometimes I am in the middle of an application, whether it be a game,
> OpenOffice doing some work, or even chatting using xChat 2.4.3 my system
> logs me off and I go back to the logon screen.  Like I said, it doesn't
> matter what I'm running.  This happens at periodic times of the day and
> applications are varied on what I'm running.  Any idea why this could be
> happening?
>
> Thanks...
I had the same problem a while ago, but that was using x.org.

If I had the following setup in my xorg.conf file, X would log me out if I 
used gtk1 apps.

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

Børre



Re: 'Start new session' gone AWOL

2005-08-19 Thread marc
Peter Palm said...
> > Using KDE 3.3.2, kernel 2.6.8-2-686, I've happily started new sessions 
> > via this menu 'Start new session' item. Today, however, I find that it 
> > has disappeared - even from root.
> 
> This probably has something to do with your Xservers file, take a look
> at:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2004/10/msg00139.html

Oddly enough, I saw this. But, while it fixes the problem - kind of - it 
doesn't explain why I have been merrily creating sessions prior to 
amending '/etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers

Ah well, it works, so no complaints.

The reason I said 'kind of' is because when you reserve, say, one extra 
tty, then use it by creating a new session, the 'Start new session' menu 
entry remains. Click it, the new session dialog opens, and then nada.

Seems to me that the number of ttys should be managed in Session Manager 
and that the dialog should be a warning where no more sessions are 
available for creation.

Anyway, back to Samba - cool that the O'Reilly book is in the docs.

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Re: 'Start new session' gone AWOL

2005-08-19 Thread Peter Palm
> Using KDE 3.3.2, kernel 2.6.8-2-686, I've happily started new sessions 
> via this menu 'Start new session' item. Today, however, I find that it 
> has disappeared - even from root.

This probably has something to do with your Xservers file, take a look
at:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2004/10/msg00139.html


Regards,


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'Start new session' gone AWOL

2005-08-19 Thread marc
Using KDE 3.3.2, kernel 2.6.8-2-686, I've happily started new sessions 
via this menu 'Start new session' item. Today, however, I find that it 
has disappeared - even from root.

I'm sure after which precise event it disappeared, but the only system 
config type things I did late yesterday were:
- Network Admin (/usr/bin/network-admin): to reconfigure the NIC
- Install Samba, Samba client and SWAT, and configure for use

Googling, I see that this is a common problem, but I couldn't uncover a 
fix.

In the meantime, other than moving to Gnome , is there a 
workaround?

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Re: kmail crash

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Calviani

Tommi Tervo wrote:


In linux.debian.maint.kde, you wrote:
 


Hi Debian-kde,
  i'm trying to use kmail 1.8 with KDE 3.4.1 from Alioth. Sometimes 
(very often) kmail crashes and give this backtrace: this one was 
produces by clicking on the "subject" button on the message list, but it 
happens also with other commands:
   



Do you have installed kdelibs-data package from unstable?
ii  kdelibs-data3.4.2-1

For me kmail started to crash after that package updated. You propably
have to unroll back to aliot-version, because that c++ transition.

HTH, HAND


T
 

Thanks, but unfortunately i don't have it installed, i have still the 
3.4.1 alioth version, since i've stop on kde upgrading as long as the 
KDE mantainer did not send the awaited mail! 
(http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/08/msg00089.html)


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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-19 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Tim Ruehsen [Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:21:12 +0200]:

> The document says 'do apt-get upgrade' and/or hold kdelibs4. It did not 
> mention kdelibs-data. This is why Barney and me rushed into that problem.

  Correct. There is a _real_ bug here, #323747, that will be fixed in
  the next upload.

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Re: KDE menu applications gone

2005-08-19 Thread Tim Ruehsen
Hi Marco,

> > I am holding kdelibs abd kdelibs-bin untill the rest of the kde progs 
> > are updated to 3.4.2

> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/08/msg00089.html  . You should 
> avoid upgrading KDE stuffs until the mail from the KDE mantainers

The document says 'do apt-get upgrade' and/or hold kdelibs4. It did not 
mention kdelibs-data. This is why Barney and me rushed into that problem.
Ok, maybe I have still been in sleep mode ;-)

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kmail crash

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Calviani

Hi Debian-kde,
  i'm trying to use kmail 1.8 with KDE 3.4.1 from Alioth. Sometimes 
(very often) kmail crashes and give this backtrace: this one was 
produces by clicking on the "subject" button on the message list, but it 
happens also with other commands:



(no debugging symbols found)
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1".
(no debugging symbols found)
`system-supplied DSO at 0xe000' has disappeared; keeping its symbols.
(no debugging symbols found)
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[KCrash handler]
#3  0xb74a108e in QGDict::look_string () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#4  0xb7cdbb51 in KMHeaders::writeSortOrder ()
  from /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so
#5  0xb7cdb038 in KMHeaders::setSorting () from /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so
#6  0xb7cdce04 in KMHeaders::dirtySortOrder ()
  from /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so
#7  0xb7ce0a27 in KMHeaders::qt_invoke () from /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so
#8  0xb71eb696 in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#9  0xb71eb87d in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#10 0xb7537c02 in QHeader::clicked () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#11 0xb72a35df in QHeader::mouseReleaseEvent () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#12 0xb7221b37 in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#13 0xb718ee1f in QApplication::internalNotify () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3

#14 0xb718e514 in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#15 0xb7740ac5 in KApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#16 0xb71235b0 in QETWidget::translateMouseEvent ()
  from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#17 0xb712123e in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent () from 
/usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3

#18 0xb7138254 in QEventLoop::processEvents () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#19 0xb71a11d8 in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#20 0xb71a1088 in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#21 0xb718f071 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#22 0x0804a0b4 in ?? ()
#23 0xb9b0 in ?? ()
#24 0xb8c0 in ?? ()
#25 0x in ?? ()
#26 0x in ?? ()
#27 0xb7632c40 in vtable for QGArray () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#28 0x08128678 in ?? ()
#29 0xb7a02618 in __malloc_initialize_hook () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#30 0xb7a02218 in __malloc_initialize_hook () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#31 0xb7fb27d0 in vtable for KMKernel () from /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so
#32 0xb78e1ec0 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#33 0xb78e1ec0 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#34 0x08049e11 in ?? ()



Any clues from other users of kmail from alioth?

MC


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