Re: Upgrade 3.3.2->3.4.2

2005-09-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag 08 September 2005 22:40 schrieb Hendrik Sattler:

> > It uses pmount which needs at least libhal0 and dbus. pmount has no
> > direct and as far as I checked also no indirect dependency to udev
> > tough.
>
> pmount does not require the hal package. Currently, media:/ only shows
> devices from /etc/fstab, not even all mounted devices (my usb stick is
> mounted using pmount directly).

Hello Henrik,

do you have hotplug installed? Without hotplug necessary kernel modules to 
support an external USB drive might not be loaded.

New hardware should be recognized from the kernel anyway and be reported 
via sysfs.

But there needs to be someone who plugs into the hotplug hook for new 
hardware and I highly doubt that this will be KDE media:// itself. 

Its a modular design and right now on my machine its udevsend who plugs 
into the kernel hotplug hook:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ -> cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug
/sbin/udevsend

I am pretty sure something must plugin in there or newly added hardware 
won't be dealt with automatically.

Anyway I would install udev. Yes, there are issues with it, that it won't 
setup some device files automatically. Like for isdn4linux (I can send 
you an init script that does it). And might be issues when doing a backup 
via rsync. But apart from that it works quite nicely.

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Re: icon view crash [3.4.2] (Re: media kioslave crashes, causes konq to crash too)

2005-09-08 Thread Daniel Andor
On Thursday 08 September 2005 10:20 pm, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> It might also make sense to try it with a bog standard KDE configuration
> by doing "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.off". If that "fixes" the crash you could try
> which configuration file triggers it. Most likely its one from Konqueror
> like konquerorrc.

A bit of experimenting showed that this:

[Settings]
EnableSoundPreviews=true

in the file .kde/share/config/konqiconviewrc

made the iconview crash.

Removing that line (but leaving the other settings unchanged) made the 
iconview work again.

Am I the only one who gets that setting to crash konq?

Thx,
Daniel.


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Re: Successfull upgrade to 3.4.2

2005-09-08 Thread Adeodato Simó
* David Martínez Moreno [Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:39:42 +0200]:

> rc  openoffice.org-kde  1.1.4-3   KDE UI Plugin and KDE File Picker for 
> OpenOffice.org

  This one won't be able to come back, since last I heard oo.o1 can't be
  compiled with gcc4 or gcc 3.4. openoffice.org2-kde already exists,
  though.

  Cheers,

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Re: icon view crash [3.4.2] (Re: media kioslave crashes, causes konq to crash too)

2005-09-08 Thread Daniel Andor
On Thursday 08 September 2005 10:20 pm, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 08 September 2005 22:54 schrieb Daniel Andor:
> > On further investigation, it appears to crash whenever konq is using
> > the large icon view, so perhaps nothing to do with the media ioslave
> > (as hinted by the backtrace).  The backtrace is exactly the same.
> I am quite pleased with stability here in general.
>
> But well this is still day one with KDE 3.4.2 so let's see how it goes.
>
> > How do I go debugging from here?  All my packages appear to be upto
> > date, and I didn't have this problem before upgrading to 3.4.2.
>
> Maybe try "strace konqueror" to find out what Konqueror is trying to do
> when it crashes. But as strace gives lots of output it might not be easy
> to find the culprit.

The last bit of strace before it segfaults is

open("/home/da209/.mcoprc", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 21
read(21, "GlobalComm=Arts::TmpGlobalComm\n", 8191) = 31
read(21, "", 8191)  = 0
close(21)   = 0
stat64("/usr/lib/mcop", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
open("/usr/lib/mcop", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 21
fstat64(21, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
fcntl64(21, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC)= 0
getdents64(21, /* 56 entries */, 4096)  = 2512
stat64("/usr/lib/mcop/.", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
stat64("/usr/lib/mcop/..", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=106496, ...}) = 0
stat64("/usr/lib/mcop/kmedia2.mcoptype", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, 
st_size=2281, ...}) = 0
stat64("/usr/lib/mcop/Arts", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=8192, ...}) = 0
open("/usr/lib/mcop/Arts", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 22
fstat64(22, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=8192, ...}) = 0
fcntl64(22, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC)= 0
getdents64(22, /* 85 entries */, 4096)  = 4056
stat64("/usr/lib/mcop/Arts/.", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=8192, ...}) = 0
stat64("/usr/lib/mcop/Arts/..", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
stat64("/usr/lib/mcop/Arts/Synth_BUS_DOWNLINK.mcopclass", {st_mode=S_IFREG|
0644, st_size=94, ...}) = 0
open("/usr/lib/mcop/Arts/Synth_BUS_DOWNLINK.mcopclass", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) 
= 23
read(23, "Buildable=true\nInterface=Arts::S"..., 8191) = 94
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---


> It might also make sense to try it with a bog standard KDE configuration
> by doing "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.off". If that "fixes" the crash you could try
> which configuration file triggers it. Most likely its one from Konqueror
> like konquerorrc.

I think you're onto something - with a fresh .kde, it seems fine.  What config 
files relate to the above arts-ey stuff??

Thanks,
Daniel.


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Re: Successfull upgrade to 3.4.2

2005-09-08 Thread Mark Purcell
Jan,

> (for those interested: http://debian.kcore.org/ for my 'transitioned'
> packages
> - NOT official! tho they're mainly rebuilds of official ones) 

Rather than building your own NOT official 'tranisitioned' packages.

Could I ask you to setup an account on alioth.debian.org, we will give you 
commit access to kde-extras, and you can help us transition the real 
packages :-)

http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/kde-extras/knemo/?rev=0&sc=1

Mark


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Re: icon view crash [3.4.2] (Re: media kioslave crashes, causes konq to crash too)

2005-09-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag 08 September 2005 22:54 schrieb Daniel Andor:

> On further investigation, it appears to crash whenever konq is using
> the large icon view, so perhaps nothing to do with the media ioslave
> (as hinted by the backtrace).  The backtrace is exactly the same.

Hello Daniel,

hmmm icon view seems to work nicely here with KDE 3.4.2. Also with media:/

I am quite pleased with stability here in general. 

But well this is still day one with KDE 3.4.2 so let's see how it goes.

> How do I go debugging from here?  All my packages appear to be upto
> date, and I didn't have this problem before upgrading to 3.4.2.

Maybe try "strace konqueror" to find out what Konqueror is trying to do 
when it crashes. But as strace gives lots of output it might not be easy 
to find the culprit. 

You may also want to search bug trackers from KDE and Debian for similar 
findings.

It might also make sense to try it with a bog standard KDE configuration 
by doing "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.off". If that "fixes" the crash you could try 
which configuration file triggers it. Most likely its one from Konqueror 
like konquerorrc. 

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Re: Upgrade 3.3.2->3.4.2

2005-09-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag 08 September 2005 22:40 schrieb Hendrik Sattler:

> > this worked here since KDE 3.4.0 from an inofficial source and also
> > with KDE 3.4.1 from alioth and now works with KDE 3.4 from sid. Well
> > at least passwords are saved in KWallet, I never checked whether they
> > actually got moved (deleted out of kmailrc or where they have been
> > stored before).

> Strange, finally they are in the wallet but not right from the start.
> Strange.

Hello Hendrik,

Maybe KMail makes the change when you exit it.

> > Try media:/, devices:/ is not supported any more.

> Ok, that was due to the sidebar in the file browser view which still
> had the devices tab. This one gets not reset to system defaults (you
> have to do this manually) but the toolbars are killed by the update.

Exactly. I stumpled upon this, too ;)

> > It uses pmount which needs at least libhal0 and dbus. pmount has no
> > direct and as far as I checked also no indirect dependency to udev
> > tough.
>
> pmount does not require the hal package. Currently, media:/ only shows
> devices from /etc/fstab, not even all mounted devices (my usb stick is
> mounted using pmount directly).

Yes, not the hal package itself, but at least libhal0 ;-)

Well might be that you have to install the whole shebang before KDE 
recognizes when an USB stick is inserted. I have hal, dbus, udev and here 
it works for USB drives with or without partitions on it. Before that I 
also used pmount. 

I have still some USB drives configured manually in /etc/fstab to have 
them mounted without "sync" option which gives faster, cached writing. 
Hmmm, but I might be wrong about that since the manual page of pmount 
says:

" -s, --sync

Mount the device with the sync option, i. e. without write caching. 
Default  is  async  (write-back). With this  ption, write operations are 
much slower and due to the massive  increase of updates of inode/FAT 
structures, flash devices may suffer  heavily  if  you write  large  
files. This option is intended to make it safe to just rip out USB drives
without proper unmounting."

So it seems async is standard for pmount. I thought this has been sync 
some time before.

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KDE ISDN configuration tool

2005-09-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald

Hello,

does anyone know a good KDE ISDN configuration tool?

I used RedHat's isdn-config that Klaus Knopper packaged for Debian in 
order to include it in Knoppix. (It has been replaced my something else 
in the meanwhile.)

Well and now it has been removed of course.

I used a binary package repackaged directly from an older Knoppix CD. For 
my Linux User article about it I tried hard to compile it out of the 
source, but I did not manage to do it due to lots of different problems.

Do you happen to know any other KDE based ISDN configuration tool? Since I 
now mostly use ADSL it doesn't matter that much but I always found it 
quite convenient to have a nice front end that hides the fact that one 
needs to edit 3 or 4 files for configuring one internet provider for 
isdn4linux.

I also think that KPPP should work whith a CAPI enabled driver that can 
use pppd directly instead of ipppd. 

I have a AVM A1 PCMCIA Fritzcard. To my latest knowledge (quite old 
already) there is no MISDN (modular ISDN) driver for it. So I would have 
to use some proprietary driver from AVM. I tried this before, but I never 
got it to work properly. 

Well when there is GUI frontend for ISDN (well GNOME might have one I 
heard;-), I will edit those isdn4linux config files again.

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Re: Upgrade 3.3.2->3.4.2

2005-09-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2005 22:16 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> Am Donnerstag 08 September 2005 20:55 schrieb Hendrik Sattler:
> > Hi,
> >
> > - kmail: it says that it now supports kwallet but the passwords are not
> > all moved into the wallet (yes, I like kwallet :)
>
> this worked here since KDE 3.4.0 from an inofficial source and also with
> KDE 3.4.1 from alioth and now works with KDE 3.4 from sid. Well at least
> passwords are saved in KWallet, I never checked whether they actually got
> moved (deleted out of kmailrc or where they have been stored before).

Strange, finally they are in the wallet but not right from the start. Strange.

> > Is there a way to get the device URL working without installing udev?
> > Or can udev be configured to use a static /dev tree?
>
> Try media:/, devices:/ is not supported any more.

Ok, that was due to the sidebar in the file browser view which still had the 
devices tab. This one gets not reset to system defaults (you have to do this 
manually) but the toolbars are killed by the update.

> I am not absolutely sure whether it needs udev. I always thought it would.
>
> It uses pmount which needs at least libhal0 and dbus. pmount has no direct
> and as far as I checked also no indirect dependency to udev tough.

pmount does not require the hal package. Currently, media:/ only shows devices 
from /etc/fstab, not even all mounted devices (my usb stick is mounted using 
pmount directly).

HS


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icon view crash [3.4.2] (Re: media kioslave crashes, causes konq to crash too)

2005-09-08 Thread Daniel Andor
On Thursday 08 September 2005 8:39 pm, Daniel Andor wrote:
> On Thursday 08 September 2005 7:56 pm, David Pye wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 September 2005 15:44, Daniel Andor wrote:
> > > I set up dbus, hal, and pmount as per the thread on this list, and
> > > media:/ appears initially at least to work as expected.  However,
> > > 'doing' anything to one of the devices - even hovering over one with a
> > > mouse - causes konqueror to crash with a segmentation fault.  Even if I
> > > haven't inserted a thing into any drives, just hover over one of the
> > > mounted harddiscs.

On further investigation, it appears to crash whenever konq is using the large 
icon view, so perhaps nothing to do with the media ioslave (as hinted by the 
backtrace).  The backtrace is exactly the same.

How do I go debugging from here?  All my packages appear to be upto date, and 
I didn't have this problem before upgrading to 3.4.2.

Thanks,
Daniel.

> Backtrace:
> [New Thread -1230718080 (LWP 6839)]
> [KCrash handler]
> #3  0xb5bc0dea in __gnu_cxx::__mt_alloc __gnu_cxx::__common_pool_policy<__gnu_cxx::__pool, true>
>
> >::allocate(unsigned, void const*) ()
>
>from /usr/lib/libsoundserver_idl.so.1
> #4  0xb583a2a1 in Arts::TraderOffer_impl::TraderOffer_impl(std::string
> const&, std::string const&) () from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
> #5  0xb583aa25 in Arts::TraderHelper::addDirectory(std::string const&,
> std::string const&, std::map,
> bool, std::less >,
> std::allocator
> const, bool> > >*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
> #6  0xb583a96e in Arts::TraderHelper::addDirectory(std::string const&,
> std::string const&, std::map,
> bool, std::less >,
> std::allocator
> const, bool> > >*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
> #7  0xb583aff2 in Arts::TraderHelper::load() () from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
> #8  0xb583b1f0 in Arts::TraderHelper::TraderHelper() ()
>from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
> #9  0xb583b384 in Arts::TraderHelper::the() () from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
> #10 0xb583b3f6 in Arts::TraderQuery_impl::query() ()
> from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
> #11 0xb5c0698d in KonqSoundPlayerImpl::mimeTypes() ()
>from /usr/lib/kde3/konq_sound.so
> #12 0xb671da6d in KonqIconViewWidget::slotOnItem(QIconViewItem*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4
> #13 0xb673b95a in KonqIconViewWidget::qt_invoke(int, QUObject*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4
> #14 0xb73a3239 in QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*, QUObject*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #15 0xb76ee56d in QIconView::onItem(QIconViewItem*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #16 0xb75553cd in QIconView::contentsMouseMoveEvent(QMouseEvent*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #17 0xb670f828 in KonqIconViewWidget::contentsMouseMoveEvent(QMouseEvent*)
> () from /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4
> #18 0xb74b502f in QScrollView::viewportMouseMoveEvent(QMouseEvent*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #19 0xb74b1d5c in QScrollView::eventFilter(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #20 0xb754ef24 in QIconView::eventFilter(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #21 0xb73a2fea in QObject::activate_filters(QEvent*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #22 0xb73a3074 in QObject::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #23 0xb73da142 in QWidget::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #24 0xb7346b95 in QApplication::internalNotify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #25 0xb7347938 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #26 0xb79686fc in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
> #27 0xb72e3fb8 in QETWidget::translateMouseEvent(_XEvent const*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #28 0xb72e2921 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) ()
>from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #29 0xb72f5698 in QEventLoop::processEvents(unsigned) ()
>from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #30 0xb735c73b in QEventLoop::enterLoop() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #31 0xb735c654 in QEventLoop::exec() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #32 0xb73465cf in QApplication::exec() () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
> #33 0xb67fd10c in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_konqueror.so
> #34 0xb6845550 in kdeinitmain () from /usr/lib/kde3/konqueror.so
> #35 0x0804deed in ?? ()
> #36 0x0002 in ?? ()
> #37 0x080d7ef0 in ?? ()
> #38 0xbf9e9338 in ?? ()
> #39 0x0804df11 in ?? ()
> #40 0x1000 in ?? ()
> #41 0xb7d890a4 in free () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
> #42 0x0804e4da in ?? ()
> #43 0x080d6e2e in ?? ()
> #44 0x001e in ?? ()
> #45 0x080d7360 in ?? ()
> #46 0x0001 in ?? ()


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Re: Successfull upgrade to 3.4.2

2005-09-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch 07 September 2005 18:54 schrieb Jan De Luyck:
> Hey all,
>
> Seems I did a complete upgrade to 3.4.2 without trouble. 

Hello Jan,

worked quite nicely here too. Also amarok is already playing fine again.

But I lost my media players kaffeine and kplayer from ftp.nerim.net. 

I used Kaffeine quite a lot but finally got quite annoyed about its 
instability. It showed different problems including the famous 
crash-on-exit problem. I found out about KPlayer which is a KDE frontend 
to MPlayer and used that then since it worked quite nicely and without 
crashing.

Any other suggestions? I know I can use xineui or mplayer via console, but 
I love to have something with an KDE frontend ;). 

Hmmm, maybe the KPlayer source package compiles nicely for KDE 4. No time 
to try this out at the moment, thus I stick with whatever media player 
still available.

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Re: Upgrade 3.3.2->3.4.2

2005-09-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag 08 September 2005 20:55 schrieb Hendrik Sattler:
> Hi,

> - kmail: it says that it now supports kwallet but the passwords are not
> all moved into the wallet (yes, I like kwallet :)

Hello Hendrik,

this worked here since KDE 3.4.0 from an inofficial source and also with 
KDE 3.4.1 from alioth and now works with KDE 3.4 from sid. Well at least 
passwords are saved in KWallet, I never checked whether they actually got 
moved (deleted out of kmailrc or where they have been stored before).

> Is there a way to get the device URL working without installing udev?
> Or can udev be configured to use a static /dev tree?

Try media:/, devices:/ is not supported any more. 

I am not absolutely sure whether it needs udev. I always thought it would.

It uses pmount which needs at least libhal0 and dbus. pmount has no direct 
and as far as I checked also no indirect dependency to udev tough.

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Re: media kioslave crashes, causes konq to crash too

2005-09-08 Thread Daniel Andor
On Thursday 08 September 2005 7:56 pm, David Pye wrote:
> On Thursday 08 September 2005 15:44, Daniel Andor wrote:
> > I set up dbus, hal, and pmount as per the thread on this list, and
> > media:/ appears initially at least to work as expected.  However, 'doing'
> > anything to one of the devices - even hovering over one with a mouse -
> > causes konqueror to crash with a segmentation fault.  Even if I haven't
> > inserted a thing into any drives, just hover over one of the mounted
> > harddiscs.
>
> I presume the KCrash handler appears to announce this.

Yes

> What does the backtrace look like?

Ah, initially it repeatedly said "no debugging symbols", and I assumed this to 
be normal since I'd presumed debian binaries probably had symbols stripped, 
but then a few seconds later the extract at the bottom came up.

Do I need to be worrying about C and C++ library versions?  I wonder why arts 
and soundserver stuff is mentioned...?

Thanks,
Daniel.
Backtrace:
[New Thread -1230718080 (LWP 6839)]
[KCrash handler]
#3  0xb5bc0dea in __gnu_cxx::__mt_alloc 
>::allocate(unsigned, void const*) ()
   from /usr/lib/libsoundserver_idl.so.1
#4  0xb583a2a1 in Arts::TraderOffer_impl::TraderOffer_impl(std::string const&, 
std::string const&) () from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
#5  0xb583aa25 in Arts::TraderHelper::addDirectory(std::string const&, 
std::string const&, std::map, 
bool, std::less >, 
std::allocator const, 
bool> > >*) ()
   from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
#6  0xb583a96e in Arts::TraderHelper::addDirectory(std::string const&, 
std::string const&, std::map, 
bool, std::less >, 
std::allocator const, 
bool> > >*) ()
   from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
#7  0xb583aff2 in Arts::TraderHelper::load() () from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
#8  0xb583b1f0 in Arts::TraderHelper::TraderHelper() ()
   from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
#9  0xb583b384 in Arts::TraderHelper::the() () from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
#10 0xb583b3f6 in Arts::TraderQuery_impl::query() () 
from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
#11 0xb5c0698d in KonqSoundPlayerImpl::mimeTypes() ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/konq_sound.so
#12 0xb671da6d in KonqIconViewWidget::slotOnItem(QIconViewItem*) ()
   from /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4
#13 0xb673b95a in KonqIconViewWidget::qt_invoke(int, QUObject*) ()
   from /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4
#14 0xb73a3239 in QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*, QUObject*) ()
   from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#15 0xb76ee56d in QIconView::onItem(QIconViewItem*) ()
   from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#16 0xb75553cd in QIconView::contentsMouseMoveEvent(QMouseEvent*) ()
   from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
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   from /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4
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Upgrade 3.3.2->3.4.2

2005-09-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi,

I upgrade in Etch some packages by getting them from Sid.
This upgrade (together with change to x.org) went pretty smooth but I want to 
note some drawbacks:
- no new kaffeine, yet, so my media player is gone
- ALL toolbars get reset! This _really_ sucks because there is absolutely no 
reason for this!
- if you use skype, you have to switch to the statically linked version, else 
it silently fails
- there is still no normal way to disable the spell-checking thing :-(

Others (small) problems are (probably bugs):
- kicker: minimal height for normal icons changed from 36 to 38 for no reason
- kmail: you cannot delete keyboard shortcuts, once assigned (e.g. for own 
filters)
- kmail: it says that it now supports kwallet but the passwords are not all 
moved into the wallet (yes, I like kwallet :)


Still, I enjoy the new version because there are lots of fixed bugs (kopete, 
knode, etc.).

Is there a way to get the device URL working without installing udev? Or can 
udev be configured to use a static /dev tree?

HS


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Re: media kioslave crashes, causes konq to crash too

2005-09-08 Thread David Pye
On Thursday 08 September 2005 15:44, Daniel Andor wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I set up dbus, hal, and pmount as per the thread on this list, and media:/
> appears initially at least to work as expected.  However, 'doing' anything
> to one of the devices - even hovering over one with a mouse - causes
> konqueror to crash with a segmentation fault.  Even if I haven't inserted a
> thing into any drives, just hover over one of the mounted harddiscs.

I presume the KCrash handler appears to announce this.

What does the backtrace look like?

David
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Re: Successfull upgrade to 3.4.2

2005-09-08 Thread Squarris
I just select the KDE metapackage - there are still a couple of
dependencies with conflicts. I think kde-core or kde-multimedia is
still causing me a problem.


On 9/8/05, David Martínez Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> El Miércoles, 7 de Septiembre de 2005 19:39, Squarris escribió:
> > Does anyone know when I can install the updated KDE directly from
> > unstable? or is this still a long way off?
> 
>Depends on what things you use. I think that most of KDE has been 
> upgraded,
> konversation has migrated, for example, but KOffice not. I have the following
> packages removed until proper recompilation:
> 
> rc  kcheckgmail 0.5.3a-1  KDE systray application to check GMail 
> accounts
> rc  koffice-libs1.3.5-4   common libraries and binaries for the KDE 
> Office Suite
> rc  kompare 3.3.2-3   a KDE GUI for viewing differences between 
> files
> rc  kpresenter  1.3.5-4   a presentation program for the KDE Office 
> Suite
> rc  kspread 1.3.5-4   a spreadsheet for the KDE Office Suite
> rc  kwirelessmonitor0.5.91-1  wireless interface monitor for KDE systray
> rc  kword   1.3.5-4   a word processor for the KDE Office Suite
> rc  openoffice.org-kde  1.1.4-3   KDE UI Plugin and KDE File Picker for 
> OpenOffice.org
> 
>I hope that this helps.
> 
>Best regards,
> 
> 
>Ender.
> --
> You idiots, you've captured their stunt doubles.
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> 
> 
>



Re: Successfull upgrade to 3.4.2

2005-09-08 Thread David Martínez Moreno
El Miércoles, 7 de Septiembre de 2005 19:39, Squarris escribió:
> Does anyone know when I can install the updated KDE directly from
> unstable? or is this still a long way off?

Depends on what things you use. I think that most of KDE has been 
upgraded,
konversation has migrated, for example, but KOffice not. I have the following
packages removed until proper recompilation:

rc  kcheckgmail 0.5.3a-1  KDE systray application to check GMail 
accounts
rc  koffice-libs1.3.5-4   common libraries and binaries for the KDE 
Office Suite
rc  kompare 3.3.2-3   a KDE GUI for viewing differences between 
files
rc  kpresenter  1.3.5-4   a presentation program for the KDE Office 
Suite
rc  kspread 1.3.5-4   a spreadsheet for the KDE Office Suite
rc  kwirelessmonitor0.5.91-1  wireless interface monitor for KDE systray
rc  kword   1.3.5-4   a word processor for the KDE Office Suite
rc  openoffice.org-kde  1.1.4-3   KDE UI Plugin and KDE File Picker for 
OpenOffice.org

I hope that this helps.

Best regards,


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quanta 3.4.2 fails to start

2005-09-08 Thread Joan Roig Amorós
quanta fails to start with: 

"quanta: symbol lookup error: quanta: undefined symbol: _ZTI15KNewStuffSecure"

kde 3.4.2 in sid (working quite well, thanks to whoever made it possible!)

kdelibs 4:3.4.2-3
kdelibs4-dev 4:3.4.2-3

(but no kdelibs4 or kdelibs-dev installed... kind of confusing to me)

quanta 4:3.4.2-1

any ideas? 

thanks a lot,
JOan


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media kioslave crashes, causes konq to crash too

2005-09-08 Thread Daniel Andor
Hi All,

I set up dbus, hal, and pmount as per the thread on this list, and media:/ 
appears initially at least to work as expected.  However, 'doing' anything to 
one of the devices - even hovering over one with a mouse - causes konqueror 
to crash with a segmentation fault.  Even if I haven't inserted a thing into 
any drives, just hover over one of the mounted harddiscs.

How can I find out what's causing the problem?  To begin with, here are the 
debian package versions:

$ dpkg -l | egrep "^ii.*(hal|dbus|pmount|kio)" | cut -c-60
ii  dbus-10.23.4-6
ii  dbus-1-utils  0.23.4-6
ii  dbus-glib-1   0.23.4-6
ii  dbus-qt-1c2   0.23.4-6
ii  hal   0.4.8-7
ii  hal-device-manager0.4.8-7
ii  kdebase-kio-plugins   3.4.2-2
ii  kdemultimedia-kio-plugins 3.4.2-2
ii  kdepim-kio-plugins3.4.2-1
ii  libhal-storage0   0.4.8-7
ii  libhal0   0.4.8-7
ii  pmount0.8-2

$ uname -a
Linux pooh 2.6.12-1-k7 #1 Tue Aug 16 22:48:25 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux

dmesg doesn't give a clue. 

Advice would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Daniel.


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Re: Bug#327191: kdm resets after login because of problem in ~/*profile

2005-09-08 Thread Christopher Martin
On September 8, 2005 05:21, Jean de Largentaye wrote:
> Because KDM sources the ~/*profile login scripts in
> /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsessions and because of previously (and as yet) undetected
> problems in these scripts, KDM resets after login, considering the
> session has ended. These scripts worked fine previously (and still do,
> in, say, GDM). Obviously this is a user error, but it is uncovered by the
> new sourcing behaviour. Because there was no problem in KDM itself, and
> the session exited 'normally', the problem was very difficult to track
> down.

GDM's Xsession script doesn't source ~/.bash_profile, ~/.profile, or 
even /etc/profile. It used to, once upon a time, but this was disabled, 
because users complained of exactly the behaviour you are now encountering. 
See bug #155335. KDM has long supported the sourcing of $HOME login 
scripts, but this functionality was disabled by the maintainer at the time. 
This lack was the origin of a number of bug reports. I decided to stop 
disabling this functionality in the 3.4.0 packages that were placed on 
alioth earlier this year, and subsequent 3.4.x updates, and everything 
seemed to be fine, i.e. there were no complaints that I can recall, other 
than a problem with zsh that I fixed. Thus I didn't give much more thought 
to the matter, and the change was mentioned only in the changelog.

> It would be useful to warn the user of this 'new' behaviour, maybe in
> /usr/share/doc/NEWS.Debian.

This seems quite reasonable. For the record, are you requesting that the new 
behaviour be reverted, or simply that users be given better notice to allow 
them to adapt with less hassle and frustration?

I'm CCing debian-kde, because people there have encountered this problem as 
well, and may wish to comment.

Cheers,
Christopher Martin


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Re: KDE 3.4.1

2005-09-08 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Serja [Thu, 08 Sep 2005 14:38:01 +0200]:

> And are this packages currently maintained?

  No. They are _not_ a backport for Sarge; they were the very same ones
  we uploaded to experimental a while ago. The fact that they can be
  installed in sarge is only a coincidence.

  If you are interested in up-to-date KDE packages for Sarge, putting
  your eyes and/or help in things[1] like[2] this[3] may be a better
  option. :)

[1] http://lists.kde.org/?l=kalyxo-devel&m=112617950118644&w=2
[2] http://lists.kde.org/?l=kalyxo-devel&m=112617950131884&w=2
[3] http://lists.kde.org/?l=kalyxo-devel&m=112617950500691&w=2

  Cheers,

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Re: KDE 3.4.1

2005-09-08 Thread EmIscA




I think not.. they haven't changed since they were released.

Serja ha scritto:

  And are this packages currently maintained?

--- Original message ---
From: Isaac Clerencia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: KDE 3.4.1
Date: Thursday 08 September 2005 09:35
  
  
On Thursday, 8 September 2005 06:54, Serja wrote:


  Hi,
Is this repo suitable for Sarge
(http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/)? Or it is also made with
gcc 4, so I need do a total update from Sid repositories?
  

3.4.1 is built with gcc 3.3

Best regards

  
  

  






Re: KDE 3.4.1

2005-09-08 Thread Serja
And are this packages currently maintained?

--- Original message ---
From: Isaac Clerencia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: KDE 3.4.1
Date: Thursday 08 September 2005 09:35
> On Thursday, 8 September 2005 06:54, Serja wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Is this repo suitable for Sarge
> > (http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/)? Or it is also made with
> > gcc 4, so I need do a total update from Sid repositories?
>
> 3.4.1 is built with gcc 3.3
>
> Best regards


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Re: kdm resets on login

2005-09-08 Thread Jean de Largentaye
On 9/6/05, Brian Kimball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jean de Largentaye wrote:
> 
> > After making the jump and upgrading to KDE 3.4.2, I cannot login
> > through KDM anymore.
> > The kdm login screen disappears, then I wait a few seconds for the
> > kde splash to appear, then X resets, and back to the login screen.
> > This happens whichever session I choose (of KDE, Larswm, or
> > failsafe).
> >
> > Starting a session through startx from a console works, however, and
> > brings me to KDE (btw: oooh shiny! ahem).
> 
> I had the same problem, and traced it to the following in
> my .bash_profile (which is now sourced by /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession):
> 
> if [ -z "$SSH_AGENT_PID" ]; then
> exec ssh-agent bash --login
> fi
> 
> This was turning my X session into a vanilla bash login shell which was
> exiting immediately (I'm guessing because there was no stdin or
> something, but this is where my knowledge fails me).
> 
> So check your shell's login scripts.

Yup, that was it! I just commented out all my bastard login scripts
and it works now!
I din't have anything as evident as an 'exec' however. maybe the 'eval
dircolors'? Anyhow, the problem is identified. Thanks a lot!

> Perhaps a NEWS.Debian is needed?  Or am I the only one doesn't know how
> to use his .bash_profile? :-)

I agree :) Without your pointer, I never would have found the problem
for my user. (And you're not the only one...-_- )

John



Re: Re: Printing Problem with latest unstable packages, Re: Bug#326990: libqt3-mt: Spinbox code is broken, Re: Bug#326833: kdelibs: KDE pseudoprinters do not work, Subject: Re: Bug#327021: libqt3-mt:

2005-09-08 Thread Rainer Kiehne
Hi
> Hello all,
>
>   fixed Qt packages will be soon uploaded to unstable. In the meantime,
>   can you confirm that they really fix the problem? Please install and
>   test from the following repository:
>

My Problem is gone, too.

Thanks, Rainer

> * Rainer Kiehne [Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:11:56 +0200]:
>
> > HI
>
> > My Problem is that printing out of konqueror (unstable) and other
> > packages (kate) creates invalid postscript code i.e. printing into a
> > postscript file results to:
>



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Re: KDE 3.4.1

2005-09-08 Thread Isaac Clerencia
On Thursday, 8 September 2005 06:54, Serja wrote:
> Hi,
> Is this repo suitable for Sarge
> (http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/)? Or it is also made with gcc
> 4, so I need do a total update from Sid repositories?
3.4.1 is built with gcc 3.3

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