Some KDE programs load extremely slowly after partial upgrade
Hi all, I'm using sarge and KDE 3.3.2 (custom 2.6.12 kernel from debian sources), but recently made substantial upgrades from etch, mainly for all the Xorg and gcc-4 stuff, but also udev, alsa-modules, and anything else that took my fancy at the time! Subsequently there has been weird behaviour such as: - Konqueror, kwrite, kate and (and kmail when started from konqueror), among others, take over a minute to load, except for the first time they are loaded in a session. - Konqueror in superuser mode gradually loses the ability to call other programs as a session goes on. - If X is restarted, KDE gets stuck at the "initializing system services" stage and a reboot is necessary to get it up again There don't appear to be any runaway processes or excessive system load. Other programs seem to behave normally. Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this? Thanks, John O'Hagan p.s. Please CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For sid users: An overview of the KDE C++ ABI transition
El Viernes, 16 de Septiembre de 2005 22:50, Kevin Krammer escribió: > On Tuesday 09 August 2005 23:31, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > [snip] > > > In my opinion, the best you can do is to ignore KDE updates in sid > > until we get back to you on this list and say, "hey, it seems KDE is > > in a mostly useable state now, with these gotchas". To achieve this, > > Have we reached that state or do you recommend waiting a bit more? I think it depends on the packages you have installed. In my case, I'm waiting for kdevelop3 (uploaded recently), but if you have installed, for example, koffice, you will have to wait a bit more. If you don't care removing some of your packages, and installing them again when they are transitioned, should be OK. :) -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID 0x0B8B0BC2 http://darkshines.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crashing non-kde-c++ apps
Hello, If you are using sid, and find some (non-kde) c++ applications crashing since the c++ ABI transition, then it could be (at least in my case it was) due to arts, namely artsdsp. I have 2 examples of applications I used to run through artsdsp, and that crashed a lot, it's firefox 1.5beta and skype. Since I removed artsdsp from their command line, they work. just FYI... best regards and a nice weekend! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For sid users: An overview of the KDE C++ ABI transition
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 23:31, Adeodato Simó wrote: [snip] > In my opinion, the best you can do is to ignore KDE updates in sid > until we get back to you on this list and say, "hey, it seems KDE is > in a mostly useable state now, with these gotchas". To achieve this, Have we reached that state or do you recommend waiting a bit more? Cheers, Kevin pgp7ytY3zcmP4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SV: Problems with kaffeine (no, I don't have sid here!)
On Friday 16 September 2005 03:11, Matej Cepl wrote: > It is getting more and more strange -- I have compiled sid package (0.7.1) > from incoming.debian.org, everything went smoothly, but I still cannot play > http://www.wbur.org/listen/feed/shoutcast.pls, although apparently kaffeine > is able to decipher, that what it really needs to play is > http://wbur-sc.streamguys.com:80/. When I put the latter URL into kaboodle, > then even that is able to play that stream. It really doesn't make a sense > to me. > > Any thoughts? Have you tried plain xine-ui to see if it works there? Anders -- - Debian/Unstable - KDE 3.4.1 - KMail 1.8.1 - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:56:22AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > Add my second as thanks to the team. I transitioned to 3.4.2 a bit > over a week ago and it has been a typically smooth Debian upgrade. > > Your hard work is much appreciated. The quality of the packaging is shown in how easily they backport to Sarge, too. Just change the Requires: back in debian/control, bump the changelog and they work! ii kde-i18n-engb 3.3.2-2British English (en_GB) internationalized (i ii kdeaddons 3.4.2-1njl.2 add-on plugins and applets provided with KDE ii kdeadmin 3.4.1-1system adminstration tools from the official ii kdeartwork 3.4.1-1themes, styles and more from the official KD ii kdebase3.4.1-1base components from the official KDE releas ii kdeedu 3.3.2-3educational apps from the official KDE relea ii kdegames 3.4.1-1KDE Games metapackage ii kdelibs3.4.2-2njl.3 core libraries from the official KDE release ii kdemultimedia 3.4.1-1multimedia apps from the official KDE releas ii kdenetwork 3.4.1-1network-related apps from the official KDE r ii kdepim 3.4.1-1KDE Personal Information Management metapack ii kdeprint 3.4.1-1print system for KDE ii kdetoys3.4.1-1toys from the official KDE release ii kdeutils 3.4.1-1general purpose utilities from the official ii kdewebdev 3.4.2-0njl.1 web development apps from the official KDE r Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks
* Jean-Damien Durand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005 Sep 16 05:00 -0500]: > Hmmm, I have not seen many messages to thank you all very much for the big > efforts concerning kde packages following the g++ + xorg transitions, and > that was a big task for sure - in summer in addition! > So here we go - as many other users I have successfully upgraded (never mind > for the very few remaining packages not yet transitionned - that will come), > and all looks so good that I wanted to say so on that list... > Well done; > Cheers, JD. Add my second as thanks to the team. I transitioned to 3.4.2 a bit over a week ago and it has been a typically smooth Debian upgrade. Your hard work is much appreciated. - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | "Debian, the choice of My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @| a GNU generation!" http://www.networksplus.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: Dear Kaffeine maintainer
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 05:37:12PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Freitag, 16. September 2005 11:50 schrieb Adeodato Simó: > > > Hmm looks like ftp-master is not in a hurry. > > > > Heh. You aware that it used to take weeks instead of days?? Now it's > > even only hours sometimes... > > Ok, didn't know this. I thought that new package versions always go directly > to incoming.d.o New package _versions_ go directly to incoming. Completely new packages (and kaffeine is NEW since it introduces new binary packages in the current release) need manual approval. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: Dear Kaffeine maintainer
Am Freitag, 16. September 2005 11:50 schrieb Adeodato Simó: > > Hmm looks like ftp-master is not in a hurry. > > Heh. You aware that it used to take weeks instead of days?? Now it's > even only hours sometimes... Ok, didn't know this. I thought that new package versions always go directly to incoming.d.o HS
Re: Running KDE 3.4.2 with Transparent Windows
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 16:54, Georg Wittenburg wrote: > [...] > - The X server crashed earlier on, but I was multitasking and can't > reproduce it. Which is the best way to gather some debugging info, given > that kdm restarts the crashed X server thus overwriting /var/log/Xorg.0.log > and ~/.xsession-errors? It seems as if /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old is helpful, > but is there anything else? Further, should bugs be filed against the X > server or kwin/kompmgr? Or rather not at all given that this feature is > marked as experimental? As mentioned before, this turned out to be a problem with Kopete (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100020). For what it's worth, the upstream bugreport is at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2594. It's been there since February without seeing too much activity. Well, wait and see... Regards, Georg -- Georg Wittenburg http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~wittenbu/ pgpox3mZwp6JZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Thanks
Hmmm, I have not seen many messages to thank you all very much for the big efforts concerning kde packages following the g++ + xorg transitions, and that was a big task for sure - in summer in addition! So here we go - as many other users I have successfully upgraded (never mind for the very few remaining packages not yet transitionned - that will come), and all looks so good that I wanted to say so on that list... Well done; Cheers, JD. -- Jean-Damien Durand CERN/IT/FIO/DS - Geneva, Switzerland PGP: http://home.cern.ch/~jdurand/public_key.asc CERN CA: http://cern.ch/service-grid-ca/crt/root_crt.html WWW: http://home.cern.ch/~jdurand smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: SV: Dear Kaffeine maintainer
* Hendrik Sattler [Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:11:23 +0200]: > Am Mittwoch, 14. September 2005 15:23 schrieb Zack Cerza: > > Kaffeine 0.7.1 got uploaded yesterday. yay! > Hmm looks like ftp-master is not in a hurry. Heh. You aware that it used to take weeks instead of days?? Now it's even only hours sometimes... > And why is it there, anyway (after all, it is not a new package)? No, but introduces new binaries (kaffeine-gstreamer, kaffeine-xine). BTW, it's in incoming.d.o now. -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 If there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. -- Albert Camus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any news of Koffice and KdeBindings for 3.4.2
Now that we have KDE 3.4.2 in unstable, and it is good and stable, there are two groups of packages that do not seem to have made the transition, that is koffice and at least kdebindings-java (I do not have a need for any other kdebindings). Any idea when they might appear, or what might be the holdup? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: copy & paste (was: Re: KDE 3.4.2 issues)
Hi Martin, Am Donnerstag, 15. September 2005 23:14 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > Am Mittwoch 14 September 2005 10:02 schrieb Tim Ruehsen: > > > Now there is a point that I did not find out so far: > > Pasting and copying with the middle mouse button does not work any > > more. Please give me a hint about that, I just can't find the switch to > > enable it again. > > works here. On my second machine, which is a different hardware, but more or less a copy of the first one, it works. But not on this machine here. I wonder if this a xorg/x11, qt or kde issue? I am still looking for a hint to reenable it. Though pressing left and right button does it (Emulate3Buttons=true in xorg.conf). > AFAIK that is not supposed to work at all. Ctrl-C also stands for > interrupting a running shell command and Ctrl-V according to the menu is > also not mapped to paste. > > In my mapping which should be standard mapping I can use Shift-Insert for > inserting clipboard contents. There is no keyboard shortcut for copying > tough. But you can set one in the shortcut dialog (dunno if it is called > exactly like that cause I use KDE in german language). > > Well I tried it, you can even set Ctrl-C for copy and Ctrl-V for paste, > but then you can't use Ctrl-C for interrupting running shell commands > anymore. Thus I recommend setting different shortcuts just like the > Konsole warning requester that pops up when you try to set Ctrl-Key > combinations recommends, too. > > I just use Alt-C and Alt-V for now. These may conflict with some other > keyboard settings, but as far as I remember I never used Alt-C and Alt-V > in Konsole before, so thats fine for me for now. > > The Amiga has special Amiga keys and uses Left Amiga-C and Left Amiga-V > for copy and paste. Thus there is no conflict between Ctrl-C and the > keyboard combination for cut&paste. Maybe one can set copy and paste to > Left Windows key-C and Left Windows key-V (just place a pinguin on > those), but I do not have these on my IBM ThinkPad T23 keyboard. > Thanks for your ideas about ctrl-c and ctrl-v. You are right, I never used ctrl-c for copying and really need it for interrupting things. I will find a solution for that, thanks. Regards, Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
