Re: skype and KDE 3.4.2 on debian unstable

2005-09-23 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag, 23. September 2005 22:40 schrieb Serge Koganovitsch:
> The skype .deb from the official site cannot be installed on a
> up-to-date sid machine because it depends on libqt3c102-mt.
>
> But the one from
> http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/skype_1.2.0.11-1_i386.deb installs
> flawlessly and seems to depend on libqt-mt.so.3. I thought skype was
> closed-source so how did they manage to rebuild it with the correct gcc
> 4.x ABI ?

They didn't, they probably just repackaged the binary files.
Me just wonders how they deal with the gcc-abi change? The binary seemed to 
run with _both_ gcc packages (although the contacts were not visible with the 
c2 version of libqt).
Currently, I use the statically linked version.

But who cares: skype sucks. They stick with a really bad audio device access 
implementation (OSS-only) that breaks very often.

HS


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skype and KDE 3.4.2 on debian unstable

2005-09-23 Thread Serge Koganovitsch
Hi,

The skype .deb from the official site cannot be installed on a 
up-to-date sid machine because it depends on libqt3c102-mt. 

But the one from 
http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/skype_1.2.0.11-1_i386.deb installs 
flawlessly and seems to depend on libqt-mt.so.3. I thought skype was 
closed-source so how did they manage to rebuild it with the correct gcc 
4.x ABI ?

Best regards,

Serge


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Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-23 Thread Randy Kramer
On Friday 23 September 2005 01:29 pm, Theo Schmidt wrote:
> This has solved it, thanks!  Kmail used to compact mailboxes on closing;
> it looks like it no longer does so.

You're welcome!  But there is something else I should have mentioned--hope you 
haven't unindexed your inbox yet--

on my kmail system, compaction was totally disabled "for safety reasons"--when 
I removed the index, all of a sudden I got thousands of old emails that had 
been "marked for deletion" (my words) (and no longer visible) but never 
actually deleted.

The note below (from my offline TWiki-like thing) tells how to enable 
compaction on your inbox.  I now try to remember to do that several times a 
day.

regards,
Randy Kramer

---++ kmail: compact inbox disabled

   * [[http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kmail-devel/2005-June/019581.html][]]

On Wednesday 29 June 2005 14:43, Edwin Schepers wrote:
> Hi,
> When I try to compact my inbox, I get the message that for safety reasons, 
> compaction has been disabled for inbox.
> But is there some method to do the compaction ? I have an inbox of 140M now 
> containing zero messages. I couldn't find any option. I guess `>inbox` is 
not 
> the proper way to do this.

Quit kmail (including the systray icon if you use it), open 
~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc, 
look for lines containing "Compactable=false", remove those lines, restart 
kmail.

The previous discussions on how to improve this issue didn't lead to a 
solution yet, it seems.



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Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]

2005-09-23 Thread Theo Schmidt

Randy Kramer schrieb:

Well, a little bit like the 2nd problem. Re the first, is kmail 
generating


those emails automatically, or are you generating them and they get sent out 
with unknown subject, ...?
 

No, not sending them, but I see there was also a problem with the server 
of my provider, which may have set this off.



...
  * the solution to my problem is typically to regenerate the indexes.  To do 
that, I go into the mail directory (.Mail, iirc, although you may have it 
somewhere else), delete the existing indexes, and let kmail regenerate them.


...
Here, from directory ~/.Mail, is the ls -al listing for one (mbox) folder 
(named tldp) with the three indexes.  To start, you might want to experiment 
with just one mail folder.  Delete all three of the .index files, then 
restart kmail (assuming you shut it down) and try to access the mail in that 
folder.  After a short delay, I'm hopeful that it will be ok.


-rw---   1 rhk rhk   868526 Sep 19 16:05 tldp
-rw---   1 rhk rhk99043 Sep 19 16:05 .tldp.index
-rw-r--r--   1 rhk rhk  937 Sep 19 16:05 .tldp.index.ids
-rw-r--r--   1 rhk rhk 5425 Aug 24 07:28 .tldp.index.sorted
 

This has solved it, thanks!  Kmail used to compact mailboxes on closing; 
it looks like it no longer does so.


Theo Schmidt


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Re: kmail corrupts emails

2005-09-23 Thread Randy Kramer
On Friday 23 September 2005 04:16 am, Theo Schmidt wrote:
> Help! As I write, kmail is generating lots of unkown subject, unknown date,
> unknown everything mails and lots of my old mails seem to be corrupted,
> mainly headers gone.

Well, a little bit like the 2nd problem.  Re the first, is kmail generating 
those emails automatically, or are you generating them and they get sent out 
with unknown subject, ...?

Anyway, the problem I had/have stemmed from using kmail on two different 
machines with the mail stored on one machine.  The bottom line, if I wasn't 
careful, I'd try to access (old) mails with the indexes from the wrong 
machine.

My solution:
   * I'm very careful about using kmail from both machines, in fact, normally 
I make sure I only run kmail from one machine at a time
   * the solution to my problem is typically to regenerate the indexes.  To do 
that, I go into the mail directory (.Mail, iirc, although you may have it 
somewhere else), delete the existing indexes, and let kmail regenerate them.

It's been a little while since I've had to do that, can'd recall if I shut 
kmail down while I did that or not.  In any case, the index for a particular 
folder will be regenerated when you try to access that folder (from within 
kmail)--there will be a (fairly short, iirc) delay while the index is 
recreated.

Here, from directory ~/.Mail, is the ls -al listing for one (mbox) folder 
(named tldp) with the three indexes.  To start, you might want to experiment 
with just one mail folder.  Delete all three of the .index files, then 
restart kmail (assuming you shut it down) and try to access the mail in that 
folder.  After a short delay, I'm hopeful that it will be ok.

-rw---   1 rhk rhk   868526 Sep 19 16:05 tldp
-rw---   1 rhk rhk99043 Sep 19 16:05 .tldp.index
-rw-r--r--   1 rhk rhk  937 Sep 19 16:05 .tldp.index.ids
-rw-r--r--   1 rhk rhk 5425 Aug 24 07:28 .tldp.index.sorted

hope this helps,
Randy Kramer



> I can't find anything on the internet. Anybody come across this?
> Suggestions?
>
> Please copy any answer to schmidt at umwelteinsatz.ch
>
> Theo Schmidt


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Re: kmail corrupts emails

2005-09-23 Thread Larry Garfield
Would two filters, one on the client and one on the server, have the same 
effect?  I've had this problem as well, and AFAIK I'm not using bogofilter 
anywhere but I do have spamassassin on my server as  well as on my KMail 
client.

On Friday 23 September 2005 03:55 am, Børre Gaup wrote:
> Bearjadat, čakčamánu 23. b.  2005 10:16, Theo Schmidt čálii:
> > Help! As I write, kmail is generating lots of unkown subject, unknown
> > date, unknown everything mails and lots of my old mails seem to be
> > corrupted, mainly headers gone.
> >
> > I can't find anything on the internet. Anybody come across this?
> > Suggestions?
> >
> > Please copy any answer to schmidt at umwelteinsatz.ch
> >
> > Theo Schmidt
>
> I experienced this behavior when I used two antispam filters (spamassassin
> and bogofilter). Look into the filter rules and remove the spamassassin or
> the bogofilter rules. Hope it works :-)

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"If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of 
exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, 
which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to 
himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession 
of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it."  -- Thomas 
Jefferson



Re: kmail corrupts emails

2005-09-23 Thread Børre Gaup
Bearjadat, čakčamánu 23. b.  2005 10:16, Theo Schmidt čálii:
> Help! As I write, kmail is generating lots of unkown subject, unknown date,
> unknown everything mails and lots of my old mails seem to be corrupted,
> mainly headers gone.
>
> I can't find anything on the internet. Anybody come across this?
> Suggestions?
>
> Please copy any answer to schmidt at umwelteinsatz.ch
>
> Theo Schmidt

I experienced this behavior when I used two antispam filters (spamassassin and 
bogofilter). Look into the filter rules and remove the spamassassin or the 
bogofilter rules. Hope it works :-)

-- 
Børre Gaup



kmail corrupts emails

2005-09-23 Thread Theo Schmidt
Help! As I write, kmail is generating lots of unkown subject, unknown date, 
unknown everything mails and lots of my old mails seem to be corrupted, 
mainly headers gone.

I can't find anything on the internet. Anybody come across this? Suggestions?

Please copy any answer to schmidt at umwelteinsatz.ch

Theo Schmidt


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KDE 3.5 Beta 1 packages ?

2005-09-23 Thread Bastiaan Naber
Is anyone aware of debian packages of KDE 3.5 Beta 1 ?

Bastiaan


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