Bug#528485: qt4-x11 - FTBFS: webkit linking fails
Hi, By default, debug info are disabled for QtWebkit. It's an upstream choice. I enabled debug info using 18_enable_qt3support_qtwebkit_debug_info.diff patch to provide debug package for QtWebkit. This patch triggered the build failure on s390. The linker runs out of memory which is the reason why pristine upstream QtWebkit doesn't have debugging symbols at all. For our users, we should continue to provide QtWebkit debug package. That means, we can't disable QtWebkit debug info as upstream does. We have 2 solutions: a) drop patch 18 and QtWebkit debug package. or b) build with gstabs on s390 architecture. thoughts ? cheers, Fathi
Building Qt4 core deb
Hello, I'm trying to build the Qt4 core in Ubuntu Jaunty using dpkg-buildpackage. The build fails: dh_install -plibqt4-opengl --sourcedir=debian/tmp dh_install: libqt4-opengl missing files (usr/lib/libQtOpenGL.so.*), aborting make: *** [binary-install/libqt4-opengl] Error 1 dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2 I already tried to set -no-opengl in configure file, but that didn't help. What should i do to build the source? Could this be a missing build dependency? This is a bit annoying issue to debug as the build process takes several hours. I've downloaded the sources using apt-get source libqt4-core. -- Ville Ranki ville.ra...@ardites.com 044 577 9034 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Re: Building Qt4 core deb
Hello, On 2009 m. May 14 d., Thursday 11:42:11 Ville Ranki wrote: I'm trying to build the Qt4 core in Ubuntu Jaunty using dpkg-buildpackage. Please contact Ubuntu maintainers about the problem. -- Modestas Vainius modes...@vainius.eu signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Processed: [bts-link] source package kdeplasma-addons
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Processed: [bts-link] source package kdebase-workspace
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[bts-link] source package kdebase-workspace
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[bts-link] source package kdeplasma-addons
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Re: ksnapshot is not lanched pressing Print Screen
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Guan de dio wrote: After some days upgrading my PC I can install all the KDE 4.2.2 and the application. I only has a small issue, when I hit the Print Screen button I want to KSnapShot was lanched. Ahh, a problem I can help with! Guan, check out my description of how to fix this up (it's quite easy) at: http://dgwiki.dingogully.com.au/Jedd/Excogitations/IT_meanderings/KDE_4#PrtScr_(Print_Screen).c2.a0doesn't_launch_KSnapShot jedd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ksnapshot is not lanched pressing Print Screen
Thank you very much, This afternoon I'll check it :o) Best Regards, GUAN 2009/5/14 jedd j...@progsoc.org On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Guan de dio wrote: After some days upgrading my PC I can install all the KDE 4.2.2 and the application. I only has a small issue, when I hit the Print Screen button I want to KSnapShot was lanched. Ahh, a problem I can help with! Guan, check out my description of how to fix this up (it's quite easy) at: http://dgwiki.dingogully.com.au/Jedd/Excogitations/IT_meanderings/KDE_4#PrtScr_(Print_Screen).c2.a0doesn't_launch_KSnapShot jedd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
notification when screen is locked
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 KDE 4.2 plays an annoying sound after I leave the laptop alone for 10 minutes or so. I'm guessing this is a notification that the screen is being locked, but I cannot figure out how to turn it off. I failed to find the corresponding entry in the notification settings module. Any hints where it may be? Cheers, Marcus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoMAFEACgkQXjXn6TzcAQkeuwCdH0XpT4pxdCs9Lx60ReP6kHfY R1EAoMhrvboOC0hk06XQCyQEhgrJEGwn =YdLo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
KDE broken in unstable?
Hi, for some time now (about 1 week) KDE 4.2 in unstable seems to be a bit broken. Plasma freezes from time to time which makes it unuseable from then on. I didn't report a bug so far because I couldn't track this problem down to a specific application. Any suggestions? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards Dominik signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: KDE broken in unstable?
Dominik Schulz said: Hi, for some time now (about 1 week) KDE 4.2 in unstable seems to be a bit broken. Plasma freezes from time to time which makes it unuseable from then on. I didn't report a bug so far because I couldn't track this problem down to a specific application. Any suggestions? Just a suggestion, but Network Manager has been causing a freeze in KDE4 for many folk, me include. -- Best, Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: notification when screen is locked
Marcus Better said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 KDE 4.2 plays an annoying sound after I leave the laptop alone for 10 minutes or so. I'm guessing this is a notification that the screen is being locked, but I cannot figure out how to turn it off. I failed to find the corresponding entry in the notification settings module. Any hints where it may be? I think: System settings/Notifications/System notifications/Applications/PowerDevil sarcasm So much easier to find than exploring a tree, huh? -- Best, Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
missing application icons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, ...I've got a long-lasting problem here and finally I'm taking care on it. Ever since the first update to kde 4.1 from the (at that time) unofficial source, I'm missing some (but not all) of the application icons in kde. My current system: debian/sid using kde 4.2.2 It's most probably a misconfiguration of my kde system, since for example okular for sure has an application icon coming along with it... applications affected (just to name a few): - - okular - - gwenview - - kgpg ... Other applications (e.g. konqueror, Konsole, kmail, ...) show the correct icons?! As already mentioned - this is the case since a really long time and I think it's more an update-though-several-sources-bug than a packaging bug ;-) My current desktop settings: - - widget style: oxygen - - theme: oxygen - - icon size: 48 Thanks for any hint to trace this... andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoMIasACgkQRrny/uOBVy4TpACgtmTUy5eamNqMcz32E/ZXgSPS 9hQAn3aUr2vz4rly628iMI7o+QDLC8kV =35tA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: notification when screen is locked
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 marc wrote: System settings/Notifications/System notifications/Applications/PowerDevil I looked at those, I don't see anything like locking the screen. Do you? Cheers, Marcus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoMNMsACgkQXjXn6TzcAQniWQCdHZmNsSerOSfUGFsyLtr9JgCO F0gAn1Ls3vB2/u7lz2RUj+QincygYfE3 =+5UB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
KDE 4 simply broken
Greetings, Okay, this is going to come across as pretty much just one big whinging email. I've been moved to tears these past several weeks, though, as I've battled KDE 4 on my laptop (Wind, 1.6GHz 2GB RAM - a reasonable if not hugely powerful machine). I've often wanted to revert to 3.5, but I know that's a huge amount of re-work, and it'll be high maintenance to start pegging everything there, and even testing isn't a safe haven by the sounds of it. I simply can't believe that every other unstable user, now using KDE 4, can be having the same types of experiences that I am and not talking (complaining) about them here. Up front I should point out I've been a Debian user advocate since the mid-90's, and a KDE one since late '98. I entirely *get* that the following are upstream software, not Debian packaging, problems. OTOH, as above, I fear we're about to really turn off a bunch of KDE users by forcing v4 on our testing demographic. Unstable users tend to be a bit tougher skinned, but to be candid, this is the biggest mess I've had to wade through in a decade and a half. Again, I emphasise that I understand this is not a Debian maintainer's problem -- my experience with our maintainers has always been very positive. The one possible packaging problem I've seen is Kaboom, which seems to fail (bits are not visible on-screen, and you can't alt- mouse-drag during that part of the process) on a 1024x600 screen. I've set up a page, just so that I can track the issues that I have against various bug sites (mostly b.k.o) that you're welcome to have a look at, too. These are things that I can, for the most part, replicate consistently and/or that I can identify the actual component that's breaking. http://dgwiki.dingogully.com.au/Jedd/Excogitations/IT/KDE_4 Now, if anyone wants to read my litany of woes, and possibly shed some light on how to resolve some of my problems (or even offer me some empathy with a 'hey, me too') .. read on. I've turned off all 3D features, as whilst pretty they just slowed the system right down - even scrolling in konq (a decidedly non-3D act) was painfully laggy with that stuff enabled. In general I'm seeing between one and five crashes a day, mostly when I try to do something 'challenging' like plug an external VGA monitor into my laptop, but sometimes 'just for the heck of it' (eg. after successfully playing a 25-min avi, the system will hang if I try to play a second one). Crashes vary between just X (which is just annoying) and full system crashes (which is bewildering, as well as annoying). While I was typing this email, f.e., I had a total system crash (amarok, ktorrent, iceweasel and konq's running on other desktops, CPU hovering around 25-30% at the time). Things are slower than they were with 3.5, and most applications have fewer and/or dumber features. There are little things - like no longer having the option to have a 'hide the taskbar' button on the panel / task-bar - something sorely missed when working on a small screen. Right-click on the title bar, and the 'move to desktop' is now the top item - which strikes me as (one of many) gratuitous changes. But it just feels dodgy when you find the same menu when you right-click on a task in the task bar and 'move to desktop' is where it was with 3.5 (second from top). For a .2.2 release, a year after the .0 release, with a stable template (3.x) to work from, it feels very .. unpolished. I'm trying to be polite here. krunner (alt-F2) often spends an extra second or so, after I hit return, showing me icons for things that I've clearly decided aren't the thing I want (I've already hit return!). It doesn't let me run things as a different user (and it's not like kdesu is easy to find, let alone in the path) or at a different priority - both things were of course painfully easy with 3.5. Stripping out all the weighty options with krunner makes it slightly more responsive, but even still it acts inconsistently. F.e. - 'kdict word' fails to run - just sitting there blankly when I hit return, until I strip it back to just 'kdict'. kmail spends 2-10 seconds whenever I go into a large folder, sorting it by threads - something it never did before, and something that gets repeated each visit (not each session). It doesn't remember my folder layout (sender, subject, date, size) and instead reverts to its default on each login. It doesn't respect custom fonts as there seems to be a clash with custom themes. It shows slashes either side of a word as italicised, and doesn't seem to offer a way to disable this pseudo-markup (which makes describing *nix sub-directories quite the challenge). The panel has been instructed to not sort tasks, as I liked the predictability of the 3.5 default, where the most recent tasks were shown to the right. Nonetheless it seems to sort tasks in there quite randomly, making the thing far less
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
On 2009-05-14, jedd j...@progsoc.org wrote: Greetings, Hi! I just took a random look on your list of things - and there was several things being quite wrong. Your so-called akonadi-workaround isn't any kind of workaround, but a possibility for people who want to use the system running mysql. The plan is to avoid the system running mysql - and akonadi starts its own mysql instance. kdesu is a part of kde and fully available in your KDE libexec dir. alt f2 kdesu systemsettings - there you go. You seem to have some display corruptions. Especially the intel driver is currently known for having big issues with that. If someone wants to save quanta, they are free to do it. It is soon gone from debian unstable, if not already. And then you just found a few minor bugs. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
My 2-cents Konqueror, whether using its native routines or webkit, has serious problems. Whole-screen operation is somewhat better but scrolling on a page is unpredictable and often unusable. KMail has (nothing new here) threading problems, will easily crash when moving/deleting message while a view is being stuffed (the user doesn't know when it is safe...). If the network connection is down, kmail slows considerably, even when not pop3ing messages--for what does it need the network when not downloading or displaying content? Kaboom did very partial job of converting for one use, failed entirely with no recourse on another. KDE4 (again, nothing new here) gingerly ingnores the file permissions that I as administrator wish to set up. This makes sharing if files between users nigh-impossible and can cripple it on startup by making that darned .ICEauthority inaccesible! Plasma, as of now, is quite stable but will crash out occasionally when tweaking applets and such. The option to use the old desktop folder--intuitive containment is there (crashed when I tried to use it and this is what kaboom should set up as a default, telling the user that there is an alternative!). If the folder-view applet could be used better (filter/criteria) to dedicate part of the screen for the old way enabling plasma's capabilities for the rest, this would be ideal. Plasma is at its infancy and holds tremendous potential as an versatile and innovative desktop platform! KDE4 is very slow when in starts. The problem is all those background processes, akonadi, nepomuk and such. I have a startup script to renice them which is a great improvement, ionice might be even better. User has little control over how many of these for each resource get created. After all this stuff has quieted down (resync'ed?), then KDE4 runs just fine! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
Hi Sune. Thank you responding. You're right (wrt the akonadi stuff) - it's something I got some help with from Michael, et al, on this list a little while back. I think cranking up another MySQL instance is not necessarily the most optimum approach for an application to do - and it might in fact be a distro / packaging issue. I respect that it's early days on this one, though. kdesu is a part of kde and fully available in your KDE libexec dir. alt f2 kdesu systemsettings - there you go. Okay, then I have the problem of /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/ not being in my path. I see that there's a kdesu_stub (part of kdelibs4 5) but that's not immediately helpful here of course. Is that really in the PATH for kde4? If so, any ideas why it's not for me and/or where would it normally be set, so I can track it down. I symlinked kdesu into ~/bin/ a while ago, but that wasn't much help either, but never returned to identify that problem. You seem to have some display corruptions. Especially the intel driver is currently known for having big issues with that. Yes, I've heard nasty rumours about the Intel driver being a bit dodgy, but I was using the same driver on xorg for the previous six months. Consequently I think it'd be a bit disingenuous to attribute my current, and quite chronic woes to a graphics driver that worked just fine with KDE 3.5.x If someone wants to save quanta, they are free to do it. It is soon gone from debian unstable, if not already. I've already filed a bug with this, and had a bit of a yak with the Debian developer, who seemed happy with my proposed solution (he thought he'd already done it, as it happens) - quanta will work fine in KDE4, it's just a (distribution-related) dependency problem. And then you just found a few minor bugs. Minor? I've gone from a fully functional, rock solid desktop environment with 14+ day uptimes (not bad for a netbook), to now using what is effectively beta-grade software for the six or so hours I now get between system crashes. We might have to agree to disagree on the scale of the bugs here. cheers, Jedd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
On 2009-05-14, jedd j...@progsoc.org wrote: kdesu is a part of kde and fully available in your KDE libexec dir. alt f2 kdesu systemsettings - there you go. Okay, then I have the problem of /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/ not being in my path. I see that there's a kdesu_stub (part of kdelibs4 5) but that's not immediately helpful here of course. Is that really in the PATH for kde4? If so, any ideas why it's not for me and/or where would it normally be set, so I can track it down. krunner looks in libexec dir as well, so it should work. You seem to have some display corruptions. Especially the intel driver is currently known for having big issues with that. Yes, I've heard nasty rumours about the Intel driver being a bit dodgy, but I was using the same driver on xorg for the previous six months. Consequently I think it'd be a bit disingenuous to attribute my current, and quite chronic woes to a graphics driver that worked just fine with KDE 3.5.x KDE4 is in general identifying several bugs related to X. But you are claiming you haven't upgraded your X in 6 months? If someone wants to save quanta, they are free to do it. It is soon gone from debian unstable, if not already. I've already filed a bug with this, and had a bit of a yak with the Debian developer, who seemed happy with my proposed solution (he thought he'd already done it, as it happens) - quanta will work fine in KDE4, it's just a (distribution-related) dependency problem. There is no quanta sources is unstable, so someone needs to do something. Else, I'm planning to close all open quanta bugs soon with a removed from debian. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: notification when screen is locked
Marcus Better said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 marc wrote: System settings/Notifications/System notifications/Applications/PowerDevil I looked at those, I don't see anything like locking the screen. Do you? I think the on that worked for me was Performing a suspension job. Well, obviously! In the end I only left sound on for Low battery and Battery at warning level. I don't get the toon anymore. -- Best, Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: missing application icons
On Thursday 14 May 2009 15:50:34 Andreas Bourges wrote: Hi, ...I've got a long-lasting problem here and finally I'm taking care on it. Ever since the first update to kde 4.1 from the (at that time) unofficial source, I'm missing some (but not all) of the application icons in kde. My current system: debian/sid using kde 4.2.2 It's most probably a misconfiguration of my kde system, since for example okular for sure has an application icon coming along with it... Try deleting (or moving to another place if there are things you want to keep) the ~/.kde/share/icons/ directory, specially if you have installed custom icon themes. At least this worked for me, meny icons reappeared. Luis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: missing application icons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, ...I've got a long-lasting problem here and finally I'm taking care on it. Ever since the first update to kde 4.1 from the (at that time) unofficial source, I'm missing some (but not all) of the application icons in kde. Try deleting (or moving to another place if there are things you want to keep) the ~/.kde/share/icons/ directory, specially if you have installed custom icon themes. thanks for you tipp - but it didn't help - still seeing a lot of question- marks instead of icons :( ~/.kde/share/icons isn't re-created when moved away - - so it seems to be a system-wide problem ?! Andy - -- Andreas Bourges CCIE #6947 (RS,CS) GSM: +49 178 7072022 e-mail: andreas.bour...@isarnet.de http://www.isarnet.de http://www.isarflow.de - IsarFlow Hotline: +49-811-99829-270 - IsarNet Software Solutions GmbH Terminalstrasse Mitte 18 85356 Muenchen Sitz der Gesellschaft: Oberding Handelsregister Muenchen, HRB 160131 USt.-ID Nr. DE246540332 Geschaeftsfuehrung: Andreas Perthel, Harald Weikert - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoMaFIACgkQRrny/uOBVy4giACgrrO274QsjR7RC/4+O87WGj/V 4U8AnRcL6B5629OSgVXz2jp6vzSC4axR =jx+E -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: missing application icons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, short update - tried a new user, still missing icons. When I use the menu editor to assign a new icon, e.g. for okular, it's not found in the applications-icons-section :( Andy On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:52:02 Andreas Bourges wrote: - gpg control packet Hi, ...I've got a long-lasting problem here and finally I'm taking care on it. Ever since the first update to kde 4.1 from the (at that time) unofficial source, I'm missing some (but not all) of the application icons in kde. Try deleting (or moving to another place if there are things you want to keep) the ~/.kde/share/icons/ directory, specially if you have installed custom icon themes. thanks for you tipp - but it didn't help - still seeing a lot of question- marks instead of icons :( ~/.kde/share/icons isn't re-created when moved away - so it seems to be a system-wide problem ?! Andy -- Andreas Bourges CCIE #6947 (RS,CS) GSM: +49 178 7072022 e-mail: andreas.bour...@isarnet.de http://www.isarnet.de http://www.isarflow.de IsarFlow Hotline: +49-811-99829-270 IsarNet Software Solutions GmbH Terminalstrasse Mitte 18 85356 Muenchen Sitz der Gesellschaft: Oberding Handelsregister Muenchen, HRB 160131 USt.-ID Nr. DE246540332 Geschaeftsfuehrung: Andreas Perthel, Harald Weikert - -- Andreas Bourges CCIE #6947 (RS,CS) GSM: +49 178 7072022 e-mail: andreas.bour...@isarnet.de http://www.isarnet.de http://www.isarflow.de - IsarFlow Hotline: +49-811-99829-270 - IsarNet Software Solutions GmbH Terminalstrasse Mitte 18 85356 Muenchen Sitz der Gesellschaft: Oberding Handelsregister Muenchen, HRB 160131 USt.-ID Nr. DE246540332 Geschaeftsfuehrung: Andreas Perthel, Harald Weikert - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkoMdD0ACgkQRrny/uOBVy6fdACgh1h7+yeYPcqy8lTlnvMpKiBQ /wgAnRgjVwm5OT0Bdambt9K+PgQYJNT0 =uOA8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
On Thursday 14 May 2009 17:05:16 jedd wrote: I simply can't believe that every other unstable user, now using KDE 4, can be having the same types of experiences that I am and not talking (complaining) about them here. Another whinge, I'm afraid. From, where I am sitting, you count as one of the lucky ones. Since I installed Sid on my testbed box several weeks ago, I have had KDE4 working at all for a total of about 2 or 3 days. (This last update has restored it after another hiatus.) Fortunately, although a desire to find out for myself if KDE4 was as awful as it sounded was my main motivation, I also wanted to have a good look at XFCE4 and one or two WMs as possible replacements. I have therefore been able to have that good look at XFCE, which I suspect is going to be what I use next, anyhow for those I support. Not that I shall abandon KDE 3.x.x until I am dragged off it kicking and screaming. I found getting rid of the awful new menu was very easy. (I find moving, wobbly, transparent, jumping thinga not only unpleasant but at times actually painful.) And it would appear that I have avoided the worst of the bling, tho' that may be false impression due it the very small amount that I have managed to do on it at all. But it seems to be under the impression that bling is all-important and functionality an irrelevancy. I couldn't do even the most basic configuration. I have also convinced myself that I could not possibly manage with Sid on my main workhorse and simultaneously remain sane. I doff my hat to those of you who can cope!! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
On Thu May 14 2009 12:54:50 Lisi Reisz wrote: Not that I shall abandon KDE 3.x.x until I am dragged off it kicking and screaming. Amen. KDE 4 has been out well over a year. In fact it's more than two years since the first test release. I've tried it a two or three times and always run away screaming. There's no way I can force that on my users. An ENORMOUS thank you to the KDE team for leaving KDE 3.5 in Lenny. I hope they have a fall-back plan to deliver KDE 3.5 in Squeeze, because KDE 4 is going nowhere fast. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
While I've been hit with some annoying bugs and a couple of lack of features like no system beep passed through Konsole, I've not seen the crashes. Perhaps that has more to do with your video driver and kernel. Other than KDM refusing to start since upgrading to KDE4, after installing kernel 2.6.29-2 the video stuff was much improved (I'm using the Radeon driver). At the risk of starting a flame war, it seems as though some of GNOME's philosphy has rubbed off onto the KDE devs. They now seem to worry about confusing and too many options and seem intent on following GNOME's path toward dumbing down the interface. If both major desktops head off in that direction it may be time to look for a third option. On my main workstation I still run KDE 3.5.10 and even though it is Sid, it hasn't been updated for several months and it's running just fine. I'm keeping Sid current on a T41 laptop and will only update the desktop once I feel KDE4 is ready for my prime time. In fact, I still have OOo Calc 2.3 installed on this machine as some later version screwed up the sorting rather badly. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
On Thursday 14 May 2009 22:02:45 Mike Bird wrote: An ENORMOUS thank you to the KDE team for leaving KDE 3.5 in Lenny. I fully echo that. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
jedd said: I simply can't believe that every other unstable user, now using KDE 4, can be having the same types of experiences that I am and not talking (complaining) about them here. It is a terrible mess. I'm trying to use Kubuntu, so not quite the same thing. There's a lot of denial going on, imo. I've raised so many bugs in the past few weeks I've now given up; nothing seems to be getting fixed, although a few security fixes have come through. Almost all are regressions; mostly of very basic functionality. Some of the bugs are trivial, once you examine them, but they are show- stoppers. It's remarkable that the things were released. The fixes I've spent time on haven't been responded to. -- Best, Marc Big change requires small steps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
On Пятница 15 мая 2009 01:12:00 marc wrote: It is a terrible mess. I'm trying to use Kubuntu, so not quite the same thing. There's a lot of denial going on, imo. I've raised so many bugs in the past few weeks I've now given up; nothing seems to be getting fixed, although a few security fixes have come through. Almost all are regressions; mostly of very basic functionality. Some of the bugs are trivial, once you examine them, but they are show- stoppers. It's remarkable that the things were released. The fixes I've spent time on haven't been responded to. I tried searching for gm...@auxbuss.com on bugs.kde.org, but it says The name gm...@auxbuss.com is not a valid username. Can you send me the mail address you use for bugs.kde.org ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
On Thursday 14 May 2009, Mike Bird wrote: On Thu May 14 2009 12:54:50 Lisi Reisz wrote: Not that I shall abandon KDE 3.x.x until I am dragged off it kicking and screaming. Amen. KDE 4 has been out well over a year. In fact it's more than two years since the first test release. I've tried it a two or three times and always run away screaming. There's no way I can force that on my users. I've done my share of complaining about KDE 4, here and elsewhere. Konqueror (as browser and filemanager), Akregator, and Plasma still regularly crash for me. I really hope that the most severe of these problems will be history soon. There are annoyingly missing missing or broken features as compared to 3.5.x. Several choices, mostly in the PIM area, seem misguided to me, more for the benefit of imagined corporate users than actual users. Still, I'm convinced that KDE 4 is the way forward. The underlying architectural changes, as far as I've come to know them, look like solid improvements to me. The problem with KDE 4 is neither stability nor missing or broken features. The problem is that it is billed as the current *release* of KDE, although judging it on its own (stability, misfeatures) as well as comparing it to KDE 3.5.x, shows that it is pretty clearly not ready for prime time. As a programmer myself, I fully appreciate the situation. It's much more enjoyable to develop something from scratch, implement exciting new features and eye candy, than it is to maintain and enhance old and crufty code. Even more so for people who work on KDE in their spare time. I don't think there is a happy solution, rather it boils down to a tough decision to be made by the KDE teams of the various distributions. Either way, a lot of users will be displeased. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
Hello, On 2009 m. May 15 d., Friday 00:02:45 Mike Bird wrote: An ENORMOUS thank you to the KDE team for leaving KDE 3.5 in Lenny. I hope they have a fall-back plan to deliver KDE 3.5 in Squeeze, because KDE 4 is going nowhere fast. Definitely no. KDE 3 IS dead, just let it RIP. Apparently, there is NO interest in maintaining KDE 3 upstream despite some people complaining how bad KDE 4 got. I guess they just moved to other DEs instead of doing real work. Is KDE 4 that bad? Well, it depends. I would say: 1) It does not feel rock solid, plasma still looks more like a toy than an app to get the real work done. In general, eye candy is sometimes more emphasized than usability. But many problems are also video driver related. 2) It IS memory hog. Some memory leaks have been fixed, some small remain. 3) Neither it is fast, especially on startup. I also do not like direction KDE 4 has taken with a couple of its core technologies which lead to more bloat, but hey, I can still live with that. 4) It still has a lot of bugs. Typically, they are small issues but I see how some might be annoying for some people. 5) Will all that said, it is mostly the desktop itself which is problematic. Individual applications surpassed KDE 3.5 counterparts long time ago (with a few exceptions). So yes, KDE 4 desktop has many shortcomings. But is it worse than KDE 3.5? Probably no, because KDE 3.5 is not perfect either and it is UNMAINTAINED. Bugs are not getting fixed, it is aging rapidly and userbase is shrinking fast. So I would recommend not to delay inevitable and switch to KDE 4 or find another desktop which you like more right way. Nobody shold feel bad about not liking KDE 4. It is different and probably not for all KDE 3.5 users. However, there is a lot of WMs, DEs to choose from which are active MAINTAINED. Begging to keep KDE 3.5 won't save it. -- Modestas Vainius modes...@vainius.eu signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
Nick Shaforostoff said: On Пятница 15 мая 2009 01:12:00 marc wrote: It is a terrible mess. I'm trying to use Kubuntu, so not quite the same thing. There's a lot of denial going on, imo. I've raised so many bugs in the past few weeks I've now given up; nothing seems to be getting fixed, although a few security fixes have come through. Almost all are regressions; mostly of very basic functionality. Some of the bugs are trivial, once you examine them, but they are show- stoppers. It's remarkable that the things were released. The fixes I've spent time on haven't been responded to. I tried searching for gm...@auxbuss.com on bugs.kde.org, but it says The name gm...@auxbuss.com is not a valid username. Can you send me the mail address you use for bugs.kde.org ? I'll email you. -- Best, Marc Big change requires small steps. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE broken in unstable?
On Jue 14 May 2009 10:43:50 marc escribió: Dominik Schulz said: Hi, for some time now (about 1 week) KDE 4.2 in unstable seems to be a bit broken. Plasma freezes from time to time which makes it unuseable from then on. I didn't report a bug so far because I couldn't track this problem down to a specific application. Any suggestions? Just a suggestion, but Network Manager has been causing a freeze in KDE4 for many folk, me include. The calendar widget had a problem that eated most of the cpu. I don't know if is still tehre. -- Vió, buteó y andó Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: missing application icons
On Jue 14 May 2009 15:52:02 Andreas Bourges escribió: Hi, ...I've got a long-lasting problem here and finally I'm taking care on it. Ever since the first update to kde 4.1 from the (at that time) unofficial source, I'm missing some (but not all) of the application icons in kde. Did you try kappfinder? -- When the winds of change are blowing,some people are building shelters, and others are building windmills. Old Chinese Proverb Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: How enable ports?
On Jue 14 May 2009 19:12:45 Guillermo Octavio Orozco Gonzalez escribió: Hi, I have a problem, I installed debian lenny with a web server (apache2, mysql, php5) with dyndns. The issue is not access my web page from the external network. my network I have no router, I connected to a direct MODEN. And really do not know if the debian install a firewall by default. If anyone can help me I appreciate it, thanks for the advance Guillermo: I'm sorry, this is the kde specific list. Try asking in another list or in your local LUG. Regards, Lisandro. -- Why should I care about posterity? What's posterity ever done for me? -- Groucho Marx Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
To provide a small light of hope we have an old server that still has kde 3.3 on it. It is amazingly horrible. You are lucky if you are just able to log in. So hopefully kde4.4 will be where it is at. Maybe a year down the road? (although I said a similar statement last year about kde4.1 and hoping for 4.2... Regardless I hate gnome so that isn't an option for me I don't think) Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
