Re: desktop effects on PowerPC
El Domingo, 6 de Septiembre de 2009, drz escribió: > Hi there > > I got a problem here with desktop effects on 4.3.1 on a Powerbook g4 > (powerbook 5,4 / ATI Technologies Inc RV350 Mobility Radeon 9600 M10). > > If I activate desktop effects the x-server crashes without a possibility to > recover, because I cant change to tty (via alt ctrl f1), no reaction from > keyboard. > Thee is an striped artifact instead of the mouse-pointer icon, thats the > only symptom, I can tell of. No log entries in xorg.log nor messages or > syslog... > > Same problem with kde 4.2.2. No effects since 4.1. > > Compiz is working. So compositing is working fine, I guess. > But I cant set compositing to active in system settings -> desktop. > > fyi: Im using radeon-driver, because there is no fglrx for PowerPC. > xserver-xorg = 7.3+20 > xserver-xorg-core = 1.4.2-11 > > Is it possible to get effects to work with radeon driver? > > Anybody got desktop effects working on a powerbook g4?? > > I can provide any further info if needed & possible. > > greetz > drz > Hello: This doesn't seem a KDE problem, graphics driver/X one, so now on we'll be OT on this list. In theory not that much changes between PPC and x86 archs from the user point of view. In order to get a graphical card running you need kernel support, and xorg driver support (this is for 2D), For 3D you also need mesa support. Mind that this statement may be inaccurate or too simplistic, but let's start from here. ATI free drivers(xorg) work quite well, even the lenny version may work with your model, but once you need best performance, support for new models or just make sure it's an xorg driver problem you'll need latest versions, ie: at least sid. If you do need lenny start with it and learn how to find out if your hardware/system is working. I'm not sure about kernel support for ati cards in the PPC case where the architecture may make a difference, mainly due to testing level of the relevant parts. But let's suppose support is there. Nowadays xorg shouln't need any line, except if autodetection failed or you need a special configuration. IOW, start with empty xorg.conf. Once X fires up, first of all review your dmesg for graphics card initialization warnings or errors. After this check /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or change 0 for other if you need to check other xserver instance to the first). Look for WW or EE (warnings/errors). You'll get lots of useful info from there. If this doesn't work, you'll need to check logs. Try to access from a remote machine. State if machine is pingable or not. Retrieve info from the error and submit it to the proper channel: debian-x mailing list or maybe irc. Retrieve all the information you can get. In any case, trying out sid stuff is quite interesting. It may make things work. In your case, since kde desktop effects require 3d acceleration, check if you actually have it: glxinfo |grep -i direct If you see that Direct rendering is enabled you're in the right direction, but I doubt lenny ati free drivers got to that level. Once you have a crash the most useful info you can provide is a backtrace. Checkout the xorg wiki for how to provide a proper one. Tips: install -dbg packages for xorg, ati driver, drm and mesa. The method I use to get a good bracktrace is making xserver to core dump into a file. I manually add "ulimit -c unlimited" in the kdm init script so once xorg crashed core is dumped in /etc/X11/core. So if you get a crash, restart the machine(tip: alt-sysrq+keisub), do gdb $(which Xorg) /etc/X11/core and surf there. Also check the old xorg log /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old where the previous session info is stored. Once you have this information, again go back to the right X channel where people will guide you what to do. Remarks: try to avoid fgrlx drivers, they are painful to use and impossible to debug. HTH, -- Raúl Sánchez Siles ->Proud Debian user<- Linux registered user #416098 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Too much memory for Amarok
On Wed 2009-09-09, Enzo Cappa wrote: > Hi! In the "system activities" window (Actividad del sistema in > spanish) shows that Amarok uses 80 mb + 40 mb shared of RAM. This is > normal? It looks like too much for me. Maybe it's a problem with my USER PID PPIDTIME+ %CPU %MEM PR NI S VIRT SWAP RES UID COMMAND jedd 7353 1 0:40.880 1.5 20 0 S 169m 139m 30m 1000 amarokapp royksopp:~$ dpkg --list amarok ii amarok 1.4.10-3+b1 Actually, from memory, amarok 1.x used to have way more than 30mb resident. Mind, it's idle at the moment, with a tiny playlist in place. Jedd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Too much memory for Amarok
El Miércoles 09 Septiembre 2009 16:02:06 Enzo Cappa escribió: > Hi! In the "system activities" window (Actividad del sistema in spanish) > shows > that Amarok uses 80 mb + 40 mb shared of RAM. This is normal? It looks like > too much for me. Maybe it's a problem with my configuration, it's the same > amount of memory for you? > I'm using Amarok and KDE from testing. > Thanks!!! > In my system it consumes 57 + 45,5 MB just opened (I suppose when you mention how much memory consumes yours you mean when you just launch the program) and they, specially "non shared", memory grow and grow as I begin to load tracks or playlists. I'm using Amarok 2.1.1 as well, but kde 4.3.1 from unstable. Maybe there's some relation between KDE's versión and Amarok's comsumption of memory? NPI, ;). Perhaps some of the "pros" can bring some light on this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 4 major issues/bugs in KDE4.3 debian sid
I've upgraded, and now knotify doesn't crash on startup Also, system-settings comes up without error, however, the rest of the problems remain. I think these problems are probably caused by some sort of DBUS configuration error, since there is a .xsession- error file in my home directory, with lots of dbus related errors. I've attached it, can someone point to where the error might lie. myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting .xsession-errors Description: .xsession-errors signature.asc Description: signature.asc
Re: howto break up the desktops--sharing applets
Applets that are on the panel are shared in different desktops. Is there any way to share non-panel plasmoids rather than have different instances of say, trashcan, home, etc. Of course, if I want different colors or such, I need different instances, but common stuff should be sharable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Too much memory for Amarok
2009/9/9 Enzo Cappa : > Hi! In the "system activities" window (Actividad del sistema in spanish) shows > that Amarok uses 80 mb + 40 mb shared of RAM. This is normal? It looks like > too much for me. Maybe it's a problem with my configuration, it's the same > amount of memory for you? > I'm using Amarok and KDE from testing. > Thanks!!! Yes, it's normal. I remember amarok 2.1 taking about that amount of ram here too. However, amarok 2.2 beta is much improved in that regard, it takes half of those amounts here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Too much memory for Amarok
Hi! In the "system activities" window (Actividad del sistema in spanish) shows that Amarok uses 80 mb + 40 mb shared of RAM. This is normal? It looks like too much for me. Maybe it's a problem with my configuration, it's the same amount of memory for you? I'm using Amarok and KDE from testing. Thanks!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: desktop effects on PowerPC
Am Dienstag 08 September 2009 00:29:12 schrieb Valerio Passini: > Alle lunedì 07 settembre 2009, drz ha scritto: > > You don't need almost anything here. :) I know, ahem, I forgot to tell, its the product of a few configuration tryouts, before finding other solutions... ;) What I dont really understand is, how can I find out, what is configured by xorg and where is some documentation (thx for the radeon manual hint!). Spoken as a user: Since that autoconfiguration change in xorg, Im a little helpless, to find the right point to tweak in some cases. greetz & thx drz > > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Configured Video Device" > > BusID "PCI:0:16:0" > > Option "BusType" "PCI" > > Option "DRI" "true" # modified > > Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" # modified > > Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "true" > > # Option "UseFBDev" "true" > > EndSection > > Try to put more options here. I suggest to play with AGPMode, AGPFastWrite > and EnablePageFlip. Dri is superfluos since it's automatically enabled. > XaaNoOffscreen seems in contraddiction with AccelMethod EXA. XAA or EXA? > I'm quikly reading the radeon manual so maybe I'm wrong. > > > Section "Extensions" > > Option "Composite" "Enable" > > EndSection > > This stanza is superfluos too IMHO, xorg is able to autoconfigure itself > properly. > Try removing all the xorg.conf (store a backup just in case) and start from > 0 a new config. > Bye > > > Valerio > -- -- gpg fp: 5518 8F74 B2A0 E91A 6FAD 8AC8 C02C 6C6F C899 DC65 Public Key: http://rizzux.org/drz.asc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
