Bug#584739: kontact: Kaddressbook component does not manage to connect with akonadi

2010-06-06 Thread Johannes Graumann
Package: kontact
Version: 4:4.4.4-1
Severity: important


When starting kontact and switching to the kaddressbook component, Akonadi not 
operational always shows up, the underlying cause being that supposedly no 
agents 
are found ($XDG_DATA_DIRS is set to /usr/share/:/usr/share/akonadi/agents/).
Shutting kontact down and doing akonadictl stop  sleep 10  akonadictl 
start, 
followed by restarting kontact fixes the problem.

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Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages kontact depends on:
ii  kdebase-runtime   4:4.4.4-1  runtime components from the offici
ii  kdepim-runtime4:4.4.4-1  Runtime components for akonadi-kde
ii  libakonadi-kde4   4:4.4.4-1  library for using the Akonadi PIM 
ii  libc6 2.11.1-2   Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libkdecore5   4:4.4.4-1  the KDE Platform Core Library
ii  libkdepim44:4.4.4-1  KDE PIM library
ii  libkdeui5 4:4.4.4-1  the KDE Platform User Interface Li
ii  libkhtml5 4:4.4.4-1  the KHTML Web Content Rendering En
ii  libkio5   4:4.4.4-1  the Network-enabled File Managemen
ii  libkontactinterface4  4:4.4.4-1  Kontact interface library
ii  libkparts44:4.4.4-1  the Framework for the KDE Platform
ii  libkpimidentities44:4.4.4-1  library for managing user identiti
ii  libkpimutils4 4:4.4.4-1  library for dealing with email add
ii  libkutils44:4.4.4-1  various utility classes for the KD
ii  libqt4-dbus   4:4.6.2-5  Qt 4 D-Bus module
ii  libqtcore44:4.6.2-5  Qt 4 core module
ii  libqtgui4 4:4.6.2-5  Qt 4 GUI module
ii  libstdc++64.4.4-4The GNU Standard C++ Library v3

Versions of packages kontact recommends:
ii  akregator 4:4.4.4-1  RSS/Atom feed aggregator for KDE
ii  kaddressbook  4:4.4.4-1  KDE address book
ii  kmail 4:4.4.4-1  KDE Email client
ii  knotes4:4.4.4-1  KDE sticky notes
ii  korganizer4:4.4.4-1  KDE personal organizer

Versions of packages kontact suggests:
pn  gnokiinone (no description available)
ii  kjots 4:4.4.4-1  note-taking utility for KDE 4
ii  knode 4:4.4.4-1  KDE news reader
pn  ktimeticker   none (no description available)

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Bug#584740: libkexiv2-8: Please build with libexiv2 v0.20

2010-06-06 Thread Michael Holtermann
Package: libkexiv2-8
Version: 4:4.4.4-1
Severity: normal

Hello,

libkexiv2-8 depends on libexiv2-6, which contains an annoying bug with images 
from Nikon DSLRs:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579835
http://dev.exiv2.org/issues/show/677
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209718
(and some other bugs at bug.kde.org).

Please, build libkexiv with libexiv2-9 (exiv2 version 0.20).

Thanks in advance!

Greetings, Michael

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Versions of packages libkexiv2-8 depends on:
ii  libc6 2.11.1-2   Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
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ii  libgcc1   1:4.4.4-4  GCC support library
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ii  libqtgui4 4:4.6.2-5  Qt 4 GUI module
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Re: library tranistion proposal exiv2(0.20): libexiv2-6 - libexiv2-9

2010-06-06 Thread Mark Purcell
On Tuesday 01 June 2010 07:53:23 Mark Purcell wrote:
 The following transition is proposed:
 
 exiv2(0.20): libexiv2-6 - libexiv2-9

As there don't appear to be any problems/ objections.  I intend to upload to 
unstable this week.

BinNMU requests to follow.

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Package: libkexiv2-8
Version: 4:4.4.4-1
Severity: normal

Hello,

libkexiv2-8 depends on libexiv2-6, which contains an annoying bug with images 
from Nikon DSLRs:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579835
http://dev.exiv2.org/issues/show/677
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209718
(and some other bugs at bug.kde.org).

Please, build libkexiv with libexiv2-9 (exiv2 version 0.20).

Thanks in advance!

Greetings, Michael

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Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages libkexiv2-8 depends on:
ii  libc6 2.11.1-2   Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libexiv2-60.19-1 EXIF/IPTC metadata manipulation li
ii  libgcc1   1:4.4.4-4  GCC support library
ii  libkdecore5   4:4.4.4-1  the KDE Platform Core Library
ii  libkdeui5 4:4.4.4-1  the KDE Platform User Interface Li
ii  libqt4-xml4:4.6.2-5  Qt 4 XML module
ii  libqtcore44:4.6.2-5  Qt 4 core module
ii  libqtgui4 4:4.6.2-5  Qt 4 GUI module
ii  libstdc++64.4.4-4The GNU Standard C++ Library v3

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Hello,

On sekmadienis 06 Birželis 2010 11:20:03 Michael Holtermann wrote:

 libkexiv2-8 depends on libexiv2-6, which contains an annoying bug with
 images from Nikon DSLRs:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579835
 http://dev.exiv2.org/issues/show/677
 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209718
 (and some other bugs at bug.kde.org).
 
 Please, build libkexiv with libexiv2-9 (exiv2 version 0.20).

libexiv2-9 is not in unstable. When/if the transition is accepted and 
libexiv2-9 gets there this will be taken care of mostly automagically. Bug 
report is not needed.

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Bug#584739: kontact: Kaddressbook component does not manage to connect with akonadi

2010-06-06 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Sunday, 2010-06-06, Johannes Graumann wrote:
 Package: kontact
 Version: 4:4.4.4-1
 Severity: important
 
 
 When starting kontact and switching to the kaddressbook component, Akonadi
 not operational always shows up, the underlying cause being that
 supposedly no agents are found ($XDG_DATA_DIRS is set to
 /usr/share/:/usr/share/akonadi/agents/). Shutting kontact down and doing
 akonadictl stop  sleep 10  akonadictl start, followed by restarting
 kontact fixes the problem.

This could be a duplicate of 583566

XDG_DATA_DIRS looks weird though, its paths should end in /share, e.g.
/usr/share:/usr/local/share

Cheers,
Kevin


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Re: library tranistion proposal exiv2(0.20): libexiv2-6 - libexiv2-9

2010-06-06 Thread Mark Purcell
On Sunday 06 June 2010 22:31:01 Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 Please don't upload yet.
 
 The big issue here is that we can't currently build kdebase-runtime on
 hppa, due to kde4libs FTBFS there (see #561203).

Adam,

No problem waiting, my motivation is to clear a standing issue with slow 
writing to Nikon cameras, which I image effects all rdepends, not just 
digikam:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579835

Mark


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Re: library tranistion proposal exiv2(0.20): libexiv2-6 - libexiv2-9

2010-06-06 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2010-06-06 at 19:28 +1000, Mark Purcell wrote: 
 On Tuesday 01 June 2010 07:53:23 Mark Purcell wrote:
  The following transition is proposed:
  
  exiv2(0.20): libexiv2-6 - libexiv2-9
 
 As there don't appear to be any problems/ objections.

From my side, that was partly because I assumed you'd wait for an
explicit ack.  I should have replied sooner to confirm that; sorry for
not doing so.

 I intend to upload to unstable this week.

Please don't upload yet.

The big issue here is that we can't currently build kdebase-runtime on
hppa, due to kde4libs FTBFS there (see #561203).  It looks like this
will be worked around in qt4-x11 soon but I'd rather not start a
transition knowing that we can't currently finish it.

Regards,

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Bug#584160: marked as done (gwenview: bottom line of images does not have image names anymore)

2010-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Package: gwenview
Version: 4:4.3.4-1+b1
Severity: normal



Hello,

when viewing a number of images, the lowest line of thumbnails does not
sport image file names below the images. This way, it is hard to find
out which names the images have.


Kind regards,
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ii  libc6   2.10.2-6 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libexiv2-6  0.19-1   EXIF/IPTC metadata manipulation li
ii  libgcc1 1:4.4.4-1GCC support library
ii  libjpeg62   6b-16.1  The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  libkipi64:4.3.4-1+b1 library for apps that want to use 
ii  libphonon4  4:4.6.0really4.4.1-2 the core library of the Phonon mul
ii  libqt4-svg  4:4.6.2-4Qt 4 SVG module
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Version: 4:4.4.3-1
thanks

Hi,
I can't reproduce it in version 4.4.3
this is reported upstream at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=240286
i'm closing Debian's bug report

thanks
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Bug#583232: marked as done (konsole: Konsole copies tab characters as spaces)

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Package: konsole
Version: 4:4.4.3-1
Severity: normal

Konsole copies tab characters as spaces. This makes pasting
tabularly-formatted data into OpenOffice difficult.

To reproduce:
echo -e a\tb

Copy the resulting output

run xxd, and paste the resulting output on the console (into xxd's
standard input)

[bl...@zuni CORPUS_huliu]$ echo -e a\tb
a   b
[bl...@zuni CORPUS_huliu]$ xxd
a   b
000: 6120 2020 2020 2020 620a a   b.

(I would hope to see xxd give the output
000: 6109 620aa.b.
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ii  libc6 2.10.2-9   Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libkdecore5   4:4.4.3-2  the KDE Platform Core Library
ii  libkdeui5 4:4.4.3-2  the KDE Platform User Interface Li
ii  libkio5   4:4.4.3-2  the Network-enabled File Managemen
ii  libknotifyconfig4 4:4.4.3-2  library for configuring KDE Notifi
ii  libkparts44:4.4.3-2  the Framework for the KDE Platform
ii  libkpty4  4:4.4.3-2  the Pseudo Terminal Library for th
ii  libqt4-dbus   4:4.6.2-5  Qt 4 D-Bus module
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Hello
This will not be fixed in Konsole
See this upstream bug for an explanation:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146146

Olivier

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Bug#583232: closing bug #583232

2010-06-06 Thread Chanoch (Ken) Bloom
reopen 583232
thanks

 Hello
 This will not be fixed in Konsole
 See this upstream bug for an explanation:
 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146146

I'm reopening because they're wrong. The test works just fine in rxvt,
demonstrating that the problem isn't from somewhere lower in the
software stack. They should be able to fix it.

I'll submit a new upstream bug to let them know.

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Bug#584739: kontact: Kaddressbook component does not manage to connect with akonadi

2010-06-06 Thread Johannes Graumann
On Sunday 06 June 2010 14:38:42 Kevin Krammer wrote:
 On Sunday, 2010-06-06, Johannes Graumann wrote:
  Package: kontact
  Version: 4:4.4.4-1
  Severity: important
  
  
  When starting kontact and switching to the kaddressbook component,
  Akonadi not operational always shows up, the underlying cause being
  that supposedly no agents are found ($XDG_DATA_DIRS is set to
  /usr/share/:/usr/share/akonadi/agents/). Shutting kontact down and
  doing akonadictl stop  sleep 10  akonadictl start, followed by
  restarting kontact fixes the problem.
 
 This could be a duplicate of 583566
 
 XDG_DATA_DIRS looks weird though, its paths should end in /share, e.g.
 /usr/share:/usr/local/share
 

Changing to that XDG_DATA_DIRS in /etc/bash.bashrc doesn't change anything.

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Re: Bug#584739: kontact: Kaddressbook component does not manage to connect with akonadi

2010-06-06 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Sunday, 2010-06-06, Johannes Graumann wrote:
 On Sunday 06 June 2010 14:38:42 Kevin Krammer wrote:
  On Sunday, 2010-06-06, Johannes Graumann wrote:
   Package: kontact
   Version: 4:4.4.4-1
   Severity: important
   
   
   When starting kontact and switching to the kaddressbook component,
   Akonadi not operational always shows up, the underlying cause being
   that supposedly no agents are found ($XDG_DATA_DIRS is set to
   /usr/share/:/usr/share/akonadi/agents/). Shutting kontact down and
   doing akonadictl stop  sleep 10  akonadictl start, followed by
   restarting kontact fixes the problem.
  
  This could be a duplicate of 583566
  
  XDG_DATA_DIRS looks weird though, its paths should end in /share, e.g.
  /usr/share:/usr/local/share
 
 Changing to that XDG_DATA_DIRS in /etc/bash.bashrc doesn't change anything.

I am not certain that this file will be read by the shell executing startkde 
or even worse be in the environment of whatever starts the D-Bus session bus.

Anyway, this is almost certainly not the problem here since /usr/share is OK 
and in the variable's list.

You might want to investigate where the wrong entry comes from, though.

Cheers,
Kevin



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Bug#584633: kde-l10n-sr: duplicate ktorrent.mo which is also in ktorrent-data

2010-06-06 Thread Ralf Treinen
Here is a list of files that are known to be shared by both packages
(according to the Contents file for sid/amd64, which may be
slightly out of sync):

  /usr/share/locale/s...@ijekavian/LC_MESSAGES/ktorrent.mo
  /usr/share/locale/s...@ijekavianlatin/LC_MESSAGES/ktorrent.mo
  /usr/share/locale/s...@latin/LC_MESSAGES/ktorrent.mo

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broken kde notifications

2010-06-06 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Hi,

Since one of the recent updates in the last one week, I have lost KDE's 
notification ability. All KDE notifications now pop up through some some 
GNOME notification UI.

Here's the link to the screenshot.
http://www.researchut.com/tmp/knotify.jpeg


Any ideas?

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Re: broken kde notifications

2010-06-06 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello,

On sekmadienis 06 Birželis 2010 11:22:21 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Since one of the recent updates in the last one week, I have lost KDE's
 notification ability. All KDE notifications now pop up through some some
 GNOME notification UI.
 
 Here's the link to the screenshot.
 http://www.researchut.com/tmp/knotify.jpeg

Terminate GNOME processes?

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Re: broken kde notifications

2010-06-06 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Hello Modestas,

On Sunday 06 Jun 2010 14:24:27 Modestas Vainius wrote:
  Here's the link to the screenshot.
  http://www.researchut.com/tmp/knotify.jpeg
 
 Terminate GNOME processes?

I'm not sure what you mean here. The screenshot shows kopete notifying through 
some GNOME notification. My installation tends to be gnome minimal. Acutally, I 
don't have any gnome apps installed. Whatever is there is mostly libs pulled 
as dependencies.

Can you be specific on what GNOME processes ? My check did not yield even a 
single one. I do have a bunch of gtk processes (wicd, virt-manager)


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Re: broken kde notifications

2010-06-06 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello,

On sekmadienis 06 Birželis 2010 12:50:40 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
 Hello Modestas,
 
 On Sunday 06 Jun 2010 14:24:27 Modestas Vainius wrote:
   Here's the link to the screenshot.
   http://www.researchut.com/tmp/knotify.jpeg
  
  Terminate GNOME processes?
 
 I'm not sure what you mean here. The screenshot shows kopete notifying
 through some GNOME notification. My installation tends to be gnome
 minimal. Acutally, I don't have any gnome apps installed. Whatever is
 there is mostly libs pulled as dependencies.
 
 Can you be specific on what GNOME processes ? My check did not yield even a
 single one. I do have a bunch of gtk processes (wicd, virt-manager)

I don't know, I'm not a GNOME expect nor I want to be. But afaik notifications 
are desktop-independent and relayed through DBus. So there is a GNOME 
application listening on the specific DBus signal (I guess `qdbus 
org.freedesktop.Notifications /org/freedesktop/Notifications` stuff) and 
preventing KDE plasma desktop from taking the service over.

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Re: broken kde notifications

2010-06-06 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Sunday, 2010-06-06, Modestas Vainius wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On sekmadienis 06 Birželis 2010 12:50:40 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
  Hello Modestas,
  
  On Sunday 06 Jun 2010 14:24:27 Modestas Vainius wrote:
Here's the link to the screenshot.
http://www.researchut.com/tmp/knotify.jpeg
   
   Terminate GNOME processes?
  
  I'm not sure what you mean here. The screenshot shows kopete notifying
  through some GNOME notification. My installation tends to be gnome
  minimal. Acutally, I don't have any gnome apps installed. Whatever is
  there is mostly libs pulled as dependencies.
  
  Can you be specific on what GNOME processes ? My check did not yield even
  a single one. I do have a bunch of gtk processes (wicd, virt-manager)
 
 I don't know, I'm not a GNOME expect nor I want to be. But afaik
 notifications are desktop-independent and relayed through DBus. So there
 is a GNOME application listening on the specific DBus signal (I guess
 `qdbus
 org.freedesktop.Notifications /org/freedesktop/Notifications` stuff) and
 preventing KDE plasma desktop from taking the service over.

Probably notification-daemon or notify-osd.
Once a process claims specified D-Bus name for the notification system, it 
owns it. All other programs capable of being a notification provider just 
don't get any of the calls.

So if this happens with a clean session, something might have either invoked 
the other notification provider before plasma-desktop could claim it or 
something created a notification and D-Bus decided to activate one (not sure 
if any of the notification providers install a .service file for that though)

Cheers,
Kevin


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plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-06 Thread Brendon Higgins
Hi list,

I hope posting this here is appropriate. I just got myself a new Eee PC 
recently and installed Debian on it. I decided I'd give plasma-netbook a try, 
so I installed that package, rather than plasma-desktop, along with the rest 
of a typical workspace (kde-standard and several others).

I quite like using plasma-netbook, but the problem is that it never starts 
automatically when I log in. I always have to alt-F2 and use krunner to launch 
it. Google found me a couple of work-arounds that will probably do the job, 
but I'm not sure what the correct approach is.

It ought to start on its own, right? It's basically a fresh install, so I'm 
not sure what the problem is. Anyone with similar experience, or know what I 
should do in this situation?

Peace,
Brendon


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Re: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-06 Thread George Kiagiadakis
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Brendon Higgins blhigg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi list,

 I hope posting this here is appropriate. I just got myself a new Eee PC
 recently and installed Debian on it. I decided I'd give plasma-netbook a try,
 so I installed that package, rather than plasma-desktop, along with the rest
 of a typical workspace (kde-standard and several others).

 I quite like using plasma-netbook, but the problem is that it never starts
 automatically when I log in. I always have to alt-F2 and use krunner to launch
 it. Google found me a couple of work-arounds that will probably do the job,
 but I'm not sure what the correct approach is.

 It ought to start on its own, right? It's basically a fresh install, so I'm
 not sure what the problem is. Anyone with similar experience, or know what I
 should do in this situation?

 Peace,
 Brendon


Sounds like a bug. Try going to systemsettings-Desktop-Workspace and
make sure it says Form factor: Netbook. Maybe it doesn't correctly
detect the absence of plasma-desktop and tries to launch it instead of
launching plasma-netbook.

Regards,
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Re: broken kde notifications

2010-06-06 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Thanks. Purging notification-daemon solved the problem.

Should the kde-full or kde-desktop metapackage have a conflicts on stuff 
like these ? An end user will not be aware how the notifications went 
broken.

Ritesh


Kevin Krammer wrote:

 On Sunday, 2010-06-06, Modestas Vainius wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On sekmadienis 06 Birželis 2010 12:50:40 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
  Hello Modestas,
  
  On Sunday 06 Jun 2010 14:24:27 Modestas Vainius wrote:
Here's the link to the screenshot.
http://www.researchut.com/tmp/knotify.jpeg
   
   Terminate GNOME processes?
  
  I'm not sure what you mean here. The screenshot shows kopete notifying
  through some GNOME notification. My installation tends to be gnome
  minimal. Acutally, I don't have any gnome apps installed. Whatever is
  there is mostly libs pulled as dependencies.
  
  Can you be specific on what GNOME processes ? My check did not yield
  even a single one. I do have a bunch of gtk processes (wicd,
  virt-manager)
 
 I don't know, I'm not a GNOME expect nor I want to be. But afaik
 notifications are desktop-independent and relayed through DBus. So there
 is a GNOME application listening on the specific DBus signal (I guess
 `qdbus
 org.freedesktop.Notifications /org/freedesktop/Notifications` stuff) and
 preventing KDE plasma desktop from taking the service over.
 
 Probably notification-daemon or notify-osd.
 Once a process claims specified D-Bus name for the notification system, it
 owns it. All other programs capable of being a notification provider just
 don't get any of the calls.
 
 So if this happens with a clean session, something might have either
 invoked the other notification provider before plasma-desktop could claim
 it or something created a notification and D-Bus decided to activate one
 (not sure if any of the notification providers install a .service file for
 that though)
 
 Cheers,
 Kevin

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Re: broken kde notifications

2010-06-06 Thread Raúl Sánchez Siles
  Hello:

El Domingo, 6 de Junio de 2010, Ritesh Raj Sarraf escribió:
 Thanks. Purging notification-daemon solved the problem.
 
 Should the kde-full or kde-desktop metapackage have a conflicts on stuff
 like these ? An end user will not be aware how the notifications went
 broken.
 
 Ritesh

  Pretty please, don't top post ;)

  Going into the issue, it happens that I have notification-daemon installed 
and I do have plasma notifications. I wonder why.

  Regards,

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Re: broken kde notifications

2010-06-06 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Sunday, 2010-06-06, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
 Thanks. Purging notification-daemon solved the problem.
 
 Should the kde-full or kde-desktop metapackage have a conflicts on stuff
 like these ? An end user will not be aware how the notifications went
 broken.

I don't think this can be solved at a packaging level, a system might be 
serving multiple kinds of desktops to different users.

The interesting bit of information would be how the wrong notification 
provider got started, e.g. whether it was launched by another process or 
created through D-Bus activation.

In the first case it would be interesting to know which program that was and 
why it does that.

In the second case it would be interesting to see if D-Bus can be told to 
start the correct one.

Cheers,
Kevin


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Re: broken kde notifications

2010-06-06 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello,

On sekmadienis 06 Birželis 2010 20:45:54 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
 Thanks. Purging notification-daemon solved the problem.
 
 Should the kde-full or kde-desktop metapackage have a conflicts on stuff
 like these ? An end user will not be aware how the notifications went
 broken.

Now ask yourself if it really makes sense for KDE to conflict with GNOME at 
packaging level. My reaction would be: huh, KDE and GNOME cannot be installed 
on the system, wtf?

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Re: broken kde notifications

2010-06-06 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
On Monday 07 Jun 2010 01:21:49 Modestas Vainius wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On sekmadienis 06 Birželis 2010 20:45:54 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
  Thanks. Purging notification-daemon solved the problem.
  
  Should the kde-full or kde-desktop metapackage have a conflicts on stuff
  like these ? An end user will not be aware how the notifications went
  broken.
 
 Now ask yourself if it really makes sense for KDE to conflict with GNOME at
 packaging level. My reaction would be: huh, KDE and GNOME cannot be
 installed on the system, wtf?

Okay!! But please fix this. If I have a KDE DE and a bunch of gtk/gnome tools 
which pull in notification-daemon, KDE's notification gets hijacked.


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Replacement for guidedog, firewall config UI

2010-06-06 Thread Michael Schuerig

I've had a look what's still holding back parts of KDE 3 on my system 
and found KGhostView, KDirStat, and Guarddog. The former two I can do 
without, but I've come to like guarddog for configuring the firewall on 
my notebook.

Guarddog first of all provides ease of use, not just a GUI. So something 
like KMyFirewall wouldn't be a suitable replacement, even if it were 
available for KDE 4. I really don't want a tool that makes me crawl 
around at iptables level.

As a non-GUI candidate, I'm considering firehol. It's provides a high 
level of abstraction and I have already used it on servers.

Are there any suggestions from the KDE space?

Michael

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Re: broken kde notifications

2010-06-06 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Sunday, 2010-06-06, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
 On Monday 07 Jun 2010 01:21:49 Modestas Vainius wrote:
  Hello,
  
  On sekmadienis 06 Birželis 2010 20:45:54 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
   Thanks. Purging notification-daemon solved the problem.
   
   Should the kde-full or kde-desktop metapackage have a conflicts on
   stuff like these ? An end user will not be aware how the notifications
   went broken.
  
  Now ask yourself if it really makes sense for KDE to conflict with GNOME
  at packaging level. My reaction would be: huh, KDE and GNOME cannot be
  installed on the system, wtf?
 
 Okay!! But please fix this. If I have a KDE DE and a bunch of gtk/gnome
 tools which pull in notification-daemon, KDE's notification gets hijacked.

Do you have any of these tools in autostart or in a saved session?
notification-daemon needs to start before plasma-desktop to be able to 
successfully claim the D-Bus name.

Cheers,
Kevin


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Re: broken kde notifications

2010-06-06 Thread George Kiagiadakis
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Ritesh Raj Sarraf r...@debian.org wrote:
 Thanks. Purging notification-daemon solved the problem.

 Should the kde-full or kde-desktop metapackage have a conflicts on stuff
 like these ? An end user will not be aware how the notifications went
 broken.

 Ritesh

Please no. Personally, I use notification-daemon in kde, as I find it
somewhat better than the kde notifications, which are quite broken in
4.4 (but used to be fine in 4.3), so such a conflict would just give
me a nightmare.

Note that notification-daemon doesn't start automatically if it is
installed. It starts together with gnome applications, so you are
probably running a gnome application that causes the trouble. In an
ideal world, gnome applications should detect and use the kde
notification system, just like kde does with the gnome one. I'm not
sure about the details, but I bet this is something to be fixed in
gnome.

Regards,
George


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Re: Replacement for guidedog, firewall config UI

2010-06-06 Thread godo

On 06/06/2010 10:57 PM, Michael Schuerig wrote:


I've had a look what's still holding back parts of KDE 3 on my system
and found KGhostView, KDirStat, and Guarddog. The former two I can do
without, but I've come to like guarddog for configuring the firewall on
my notebook.

Guarddog first of all provides ease of use, not just a GUI. So something
like KMyFirewall wouldn't be a suitable replacement, even if it were
available for KDE 4. I really don't want a tool that makes me crawl
around at iptables level.

As a non-GUI candidate, I'm considering firehol. It's provides a high
level of abstraction and I have already used it on servers.

Are there any suggestions from the KDE space?

Michael


There is guarddog for Squeeze and Sid:
http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=namessuite=allsection=allkeywords=Guarddog

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Re: broken kde notifications

2010-06-06 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello,

On sekmadienis 06 Birželis 2010 23:02:53 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
 On Monday 07 Jun 2010 01:21:49 Modestas Vainius wrote:
  Hello,
  
  On sekmadienis 06 Birželis 2010 20:45:54 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
   Thanks. Purging notification-daemon solved the problem.
   
   Should the kde-full or kde-desktop metapackage have a conflicts on
   stuff like these ? An end user will not be aware how the notifications
   went broken.
  
  Now ask yourself if it really makes sense for KDE to conflict with GNOME
  at packaging level. My reaction would be: huh, KDE and GNOME cannot be
  installed on the system, wtf?
 
 Okay!! But please fix this. If I have a KDE DE and a bunch of gtk/gnome
 tools which pull in notification-daemon, KDE's notification gets hijacked.

There is nothing for us to fix. Maintainers are not responsible for the messed 
up configuration of your system. In KDE 3 times, if you ran any GNOME app, 
gnome-setttings-daemon would take over your desktop (wallpaper, shortcuts 
etc.). So if this still happens to a lesser extent nowadays, that's a rough 
life but it is not really a job of KDE to fight GNOME at all costs. It is the 
job of GNOME to be friendly.

If you want to complain to somebody, complain to the maintainers of the 
offensive application which triggered this for you (maybe some self-centric 
gnome (or whatever?) configuration tool?). Finally, KDE should not go against 
user wishes if (s)he wants to use notification-daemon for whatever reason.

As Kevin said, you should better find out how notification-daemon ended up 
being started *before* plasma-desktop behind your back. That would be 
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Re: Replacement for guidedog, firewall config UI

2010-06-06 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Monday 07 June 2010, godo wrote:
 On 06/06/2010 10:57 PM, Michael Schuerig wrote:
  I've had a look what's still holding back parts of KDE 3 on my
  system and found KGhostView, KDirStat, and Guarddog. The former
  two I can do without, but I've come to like guarddog for
  configuring the firewall on my notebook.
  
  Guarddog first of all provides ease of use, not just a GUI. So
  something like KMyFirewall wouldn't be a suitable replacement,
  even if it were available for KDE 4. I really don't want a tool
  that makes me crawl around at iptables level.

 There is guarddog for Squeeze and Sid:
 http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=namessuite=allsection=al
 lkeywords=Guarddog

I know, I'm using it. It depends on KDE 3.5.x whose days will come to an 
end soon-ish.

Michael

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Re: plasma-netbook not auto-starting on a fresh install

2010-06-06 Thread Brendon Higgins
Hi George

George Kiagiadakis wrote (2010-06-06 23:12):
 Try going to systemsettings-Desktop-Workspace and
 make sure it says Form factor: Netbook.

I had a look at that. The options were grayed-out and disabled, but it did say 
Netbook.

 Maybe it doesn't correctly
 detect the absence of plasma-desktop and tries to launch it instead of
 launching plasma-netbook.

Possible, I guess. Would there be a way to tell if this was the case?

 Sounds like a bug.

That's my suspicion, too. The next question is, is it a bug that has anything 
to do with the packaging, or is it an upstream bug?

Peace,
Brendon


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