Bug#598734: kdelibs4c2a: should not depend on libarts1c2a

2010-10-01 Thread William Hopkins
Package: kdelibs4c2a
Version: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny3
Severity: normal

The majority of KDE packages do not require libarts or the arts sound system. 
Depending on them is unnecessary for the kdelibs package; if a specific KDE 
program requires libarts, it should have a separate dependency.
libarts1c2a also automatically starts artsd as a system daemon, which is 
inappropriate for a 'lib' package. Advise as to whether I should file that as a 
separate bug against libarts1c2a. 

end result to user: install simple program (i.e kate), find artsd always 
running. this discourages users interested in control over their own boxes from 
using KDE packages. 

Thanks,

William Hopkins

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0.3
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages kdelibs4c2a depends on:
ii  kdelibs-data4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny3  core shared data for all KDE appli
ii  libacl1 2.2.47-2 Access control list shared library
ii  libart-2.0-22.3.20-2 Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libarts1c2a 1.5.9-2  aRts sound system core components
ii  libasound2  1.0.16-2 ALSA library
ii  libaspell15 0.60.6-1 GNU Aspell spell-checker runtime l
ii  libattr11:2.4.43-2   Extended attribute shared library
ii  libavahi-client 0.6.23-3lenny1   Avahi client library
ii  libavahi-common 0.6.23-3lenny1   Avahi common library
ii  libavahi-qt3-1  0.6.23-3lenny1   Avahi Qt 3 integration library
ii  libbz2-1.0  1.0.5-1  high-quality block-sorting file co
ii  libc6   2.7-18lenny4 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libcups21.3.8-1+lenny8   Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - 
ii  libfam0 2.7.0-13.3   Client library to control the FAM 
ii  libfontconfig1  2.8.0-2~bpo50+1  generic font configuration library
ii  libgcc1 1:4.3.2-1.1  GCC support library
ii  libice6 2:1.0.4-1X11 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libidn111.8+20080606-1   GNU libidn library, implementation
ii  libilmbase6 1.0.1-2+nmu2 several utility libraries from ILM
ii  libjasper1  1.900.1-5.1  The JasPer JPEG-2000 runtime libra
ii  libjpeg62   6b-14The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  libkrb531.6.dfsg.4~beta1-5lenny4 MIT Kerberos runtime libraries
ii  liblua505.0.3-3  Main interpreter library for the L
ii  liblualib50 5.0.3-3  Extension library for the Lua 5.0 
ii  libopenexr6 1.6.1-3+lenny3   runtime files for the OpenEXR imag
ii  libpcre37.6-2.1  Perl 5 Compatible Regular Expressi
ii  libqt3-mt   3:3.3.8b-5+b1Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v
ii  libsm6  2:1.0.3-2X11 Session Management library
ii  libstdc++6  4.3.2-1.1The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libtiff43.8.2-11.2   Tag Image File Format (TIFF) libra
ii  libx11-62:1.1.5-2X11 client-side library
ii  libxext62:1.0.4-2X11 miscellaneous extension librar
ii  libxft2 2.1.12-3 FreeType-based font drawing librar
ii  libxml2 2.6.32.dfsg-5+lenny1 GNOME XML library
ii  libxrender1 1:0.9.4-2X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  libxslt1.1  1.1.24-2 XSLT processing library - runtime 
ii  menu-xdg0.3  freedesktop.org menu compliant win
ii  perl5.10.0-19lenny2  Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 
ii  x11-xserver-uti 7.3+5X server utilities
ii  xauth   1:1.0.3-2X authentication utility
ii  zlib1g  1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-12compression library - runtime

kdelibs4c2a recommends no packages.

Versions of packages kdelibs4c2a suggests:
pn  famnone(no description available)
ii  ghostscript8.62.dfsg.1-3.2lenny1 The GPL Ghostscript PostScript/PDF
pn  perl-suid  none(no description available)

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Re: Phonon occasionally working

2010-10-01 Thread Aniruddha
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Diederik de Haas didi.deb...@cknow.org
wrote:
 Do you have multiple sound cards in your system?
 What's the backend for Phonon? When you go into System Settings -
Multimedia, you'll see your Phonon
 settings. IIRC for squeeze (ie KDE 4.4.5) it's on the second tab.

Thanks for the help. I have one onboard soundcard and I am using the xine
backend.


Re: [GONE] Re: ksmserver segfaults on startup

2010-10-01 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Tuesday 28 September 2010 17:39:12 Modestas Vainius wrote:
  But the most important is that I can log in again.
 
 Switch to XRender in compositing settings. It should work with nouveau.

Yup. It works... But the result is way to slow with my old Quadro card. :-(

Thanks

Dominique
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Re: Phonon occasionally working

2010-10-01 Thread Coque Couto
Hi.

I don't know if it's the same for Squeeze, but unstable KDE packages
depend on Pulseaudio.

I've suffered the same problem recently. It was due to programs using
ALSA (chrome and VirtualBox) mixed with KDE programs using Pulseaudio.
I soved it by forcing ALSA to use Pulseaudio: put the following in
/etc/asound.conf:

8--
pcm.pulse {
type pulse
}

ctl.pulse {
type pulse
}

pcm.!default {
type pulse
}

ctl.!default {
type pulse
}
-8

Hope this helps.

2010/10/1 Aniruddha mailingdotl...@gmail.com:
 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Diederik de Haas didi.deb...@cknow.org
 wrote:
 Do you have multiple sound cards in your system?
 What's the backend for Phonon? When you go into System Settings -
 Multimedia, you'll see your Phonon
 settings. IIRC for squeeze (ie KDE 4.4.5) it's on the second tab.

 Thanks for the help. I have one onboard soundcard and I am using the xine
 backend.


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Re: Phonon occasionally working

2010-10-01 Thread Aniruddha
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Coque Couto coque.co...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.

 I don't know if it's the same for Squeeze, but unstable KDE packages
 depend on Pulseaudio.


Thanks for the help. I've installed pulseaudio  edited /etc/asound.conf and
rebooted. Unfortunately sound isn't working ate all now. In vlc and amarok.
Is there something else I can try or are my settings wrong?

# aptitude install pulseaudio gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio libasound2-plugins
pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-x11


# cat /etc/asound.conf
pcm.pulse {
   type pulse
}

ctl.pulse {
   type pulse
}

pcm.!default {
   type pulse
}

ctl.!default {
   type pulse
}


Re: Phonon occasionally working

2010-10-01 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-10-01, Coque Couto coque.co...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.

 I don't know if it's the same for Squeeze, but unstable KDE packages
 depend on Pulseaudio.

no they don't. they use pulseaudio if pulseaudio is running, but you are
free to not have pulseaudio installed or running

/Sune
 - who on some machines happily uses pulseaudio


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Re: Phonon occasionally working

2010-10-01 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Friday 01 October 2010 14:59:41 Aniruddha wrote:
  Do you have multiple sound cards in your system?
  What's the backend for Phonon? When you go into System Settings -
  Multimedia, you'll see your Phonon 
  settings. IIRC for squeeze (ie KDE 4.4.5) it's on the second tab.
 
 Thanks for the help. I have one onboard soundcard and I am using the xine
 backend.

AFAIK there is no dependency to pulseaudio, so you can remove/purge it (as well 
as 
/etc/asound.conf). I don't have it/them.

When you're in the MultiMedia module and you select the music category (for 
example) and select your 
playback device and press the Test button, what happens?

Also what do you get from aptitude search ~ialsa ?
I got:
i A alsa-base  - ALSA driver configuration 
files   
i   alsa-utils- Utilities for configuring 
and using ALSA  
i A libsdl1.2debian-alsa- Simple DirectMedia Layer (with 
X11 and ALSA options)


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Re: Phonon occasionally working

2010-10-01 Thread Aniruddha
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Diederik de Haas didi.deb...@cknow.orgwrote:

 AFAIK there is no dependency to pulseaudio, so you can remove/purge it (as
 well as
 /etc/asound.conf). I don't have it/them.

 When you're in the MultiMedia module and you select the music category (for
 example) and select your
 playback device and press the Test button, what happens?

 Also what do you get from aptitude search ~ialsa ?
 I got:
 i A alsa-base  - ALSA driver configuration
 files
 i   alsa-utils- Utilities for
 configuring and using ALSA
 i A libsdl1.2debian-alsa- Simple DirectMedia Layer
 (with X11 and ALSA options)

 What happesn when pressing the 'Test' buttons depends if sound is working
:) On some boots I get sound and sometimes it gives an error.

$ aptitude search ~ialsa
i   alsa-base
  - ALSA driver configuration files

i   alsa-utils
 - Utilities for configuring and using ALSA

i A libsdl1.2debian-alsa
 - Simple DirectMedia Layer (with X11 and ALSA options)

i A libwine-alsa
 - Windows API implementation - ALSA sound module


Re: Phonon occasionally working

2010-10-01 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Friday 01 October 2010 20:42:25 Aniruddha wrote:
  What happens when pressing the 'Test' buttons 
 depends if sound is working :) On some boots I get sound and sometimes it 
 gives an error.

Then you should google the error msg that you get.
Another thing you could try is comparing alsamixer's settings when it's working 
and when it's not.

I don't know if there are any specific log files you can check, but maybe 
someone else knows.


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