Re: How to enable NTP?

2014-03-22 Thread Petar Gabud
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did you try tzselect?
http://www.debian-administration.org/article/213/Changing_the_timezone_of_your_Debian_system
i just had that problem with clock on my new laptop and after
tzselect, work fine :)

pero


On 22/03/14 23:14, D. R. Evans wrote:
> Estelmann, Christian said the following at 03/22/2014 12:08 PM :
> 
>>> maybe those are mapped to the above list? I don't understand
>>> why only two of them seem to have valid names, though
>>> (4.53.160.75 and 1.empty.pw). I can ping those two machines
>>> just fine.
>> Do you have ntp-server in your own network? Then use this
>> server.
>> 
> 
> Yes, I did this a couple of hours ago and as soon as I pointed it
> to my own server, it started to work just fine.
> 
> I am baffled as to why it wasn't working before, though. At the
> very least it seems that there should have been some sort of error
> message somewhere. (While I was investigating this today, I noticed
> that there wasn't even a drift file.)
> 
> The clock has probably been getting progressively further out of
> sync ever since I installed wheezy on this machine, several months
> ago; I only just noticed that it was disagreeing with my watch by
> two minutes, and I knew that my watch couldn't be in error by that
> much. It could have gone on for months more, though, if I hadn't
> happened to have noticed that. I'm very surprised that this sort of
> failure is silent.
> 
> Doc
> 

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Re: KDE cleanup

2014-03-22 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Thursday 13 March 2014 07:45:24 Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On 2014-03-13, Brad Alexander  wrote:
> > --089e014939747019b304f472eab1
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > 
> > I noticed that there are a variety of kde packages installed on my system.
> > There are mostly 4.11.[3-7] packages, but I see some much, much older
> > packages, including
> > 
> > libkworkspace44:4.7.4-2+b1
> > libkworkspace4abi14:4.8.4-6
> > libkdegames5a 4:4.8.4-3
> > libkdecorations4  4:4.8.4-6
> > 
> > and so forth. Could and/or should packages like that be removed? And is
> > there a clean way of doing it without breaking the interface? Or should I
> > let it ride?
> 
> apt's autoremove feature should help you keeping your system clean.
> Alternatively deborphan can help.

That would be:

apt-get autoremove

I don't know if aptitude has it too. But with aptitude you can also check 
which packages are not stored anymore in any of the currently used apt repos 
with ~o. Warning: if you have installed packages by hand, like skype, it will 
be presented as such.

aptitude search ~o
aptitude purge ~o

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Re: How to enable NTP?

2014-03-22 Thread D. R. Evans
Estelmann, Christian said the following at 03/22/2014 12:08 PM :

>> maybe those are mapped to the above list? I don't understand why only two of
>> them seem to have valid names, though (4.53.160.75 and 1.empty.pw). I can 
>> ping
>> those two machines just fine.
> Do you have ntp-server in your own network? Then use this server.
> 

Yes, I did this a couple of hours ago and as soon as I pointed it to my own
server, it started to work just fine.

I am baffled as to why it wasn't working before, though. At the very least it
seems that there should have been some sort of error message somewhere. (While
I was investigating this today, I noticed that there wasn't even a drift file.)

The clock has probably been getting progressively further out of sync ever
since I installed wheezy on this machine, several months ago; I only just
noticed that it was disagreeing with my watch by two minutes, and I knew that
my watch couldn't be in error by that much. It could have gone on for months
more, though, if I hadn't happened to have noticed that. I'm very surprised
that this sort of failure is silent.

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Re: How to enable NTP?

2014-03-22 Thread Estelmann, Christian

Am 22.03.2014 19:02, schrieb D. R. Evans:

Estelmann, Christian said the following at 03/22/2014 10:41 AM :

What says 'ntpq -p'?



[HN:radio] ntpq -p
  remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==
  cheezum.mattnor .INIT.  16 u- 102400.0000.000   0.000
  4.53.160.75 .INIT.  16 u- 102400.0000.000   0.000
  1.empty.pw  .INIT.  16 u- 102400.0000.000   0.000
  krillin.ecansol .INIT.  16 u- 102400.0000.000   0.000
[HN:radio]




If it says that it can't reach any hosts, then you should try other hosts.



I have no idea where it got those hosts from; /etc/ntp.conf says:

server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 1.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 2.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 3.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst


[0-3].debian.pool.ntp.org gives you every time another server.


maybe those are mapped to the above list? I don't understand why only two of
them seem to have valid names, though (4.53.160.75 and 1.empty.pw). I can ping
those two machines just fine.

Do you have ntp-server in your own network? Then use this server.




You can tell your DHCP-client that he has to ask the DHCP-server or you
can set them in /etc/ntp.conf.
Default settings in /etc/ntp.conf:
server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 1.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 2.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 3.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst


Exactly; they're set in /etc/ntp.conf.

I think I may just set the server to be one of the other machines on the
network, since despite a range of distros and versions, they all seem to be
keeping time correctly.

   Doc




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Re: How to enable NTP?

2014-03-22 Thread D. R. Evans
Estelmann, Christian said the following at 03/22/2014 10:41 AM :
> What says 'ntpq -p'?
> 

[HN:radio] ntpq -p
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==
 cheezum.mattnor .INIT.  16 u- 102400.0000.000   0.000
 4.53.160.75 .INIT.  16 u- 102400.0000.000   0.000
 1.empty.pw  .INIT.  16 u- 102400.0000.000   0.000
 krillin.ecansol .INIT.  16 u- 102400.0000.000   0.000
[HN:radio]


> 
> If it says that it can't reach any hosts, then you should try other hosts.
> 

I have no idea where it got those hosts from; /etc/ntp.conf says:

server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 1.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 2.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 3.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst

maybe those are mapped to the above list? I don't understand why only two of
them seem to have valid names, though (4.53.160.75 and 1.empty.pw). I can ping
those two machines just fine.

> You can tell your DHCP-client that he has to ask the DHCP-server or you 
> can set them in /etc/ntp.conf.
> Default settings in /etc/ntp.conf:
> server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
> server 1.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
> server 2.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
> server 3.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst

Exactly; they're set in /etc/ntp.conf.

I think I may just set the server to be one of the other machines on the
network, since despite a range of distros and versions, they all seem to be
keeping time correctly.

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Re: How to enable NTP?

2014-03-22 Thread Estelmann, Christian

What says 'ntpq -p'?

user@host:~$ ntpq -p
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset 
 jitter

==
[...]
 some-host   192.53.103.104   2 u  902 1024  3772.8420.417 
  0.242

[...]

If it says that it can't reach any hosts, then you should try other hosts.

You can tell your DHCP-client that he has to ask the DHCP-server or you 
can set them in /etc/ntp.conf.

Default settings in /etc/ntp.conf:
server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 1.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 2.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 3.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst


Am 22.03.2014 17:16, schrieb D. R. Evans:

Michael Schuerig said the following at 03/22/2014 09:35 AM :


What do I need to do to enable NTP properly in debian?


As far as I remember, just installing the ntp package is enough.



Well, I'm afraid that it definitely isn't. The clock is currently two minutes
slow as compared to all the other machines on the network, and also as
compared to http://time.gov/HTML5/.



Sorry, can't help you there. As far as I can tell that is not supposed
to happen. You might want to check /var/log/syslog for anything related
to ntpd.



Checked that; there are no relevant error messages.

   Doc




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Re: How to enable NTP?

2014-03-22 Thread D. R. Evans
Michael Schuerig said the following at 03/22/2014 09:35 AM :

>> What do I need to do to enable NTP properly in debian?
> 
> As far as I remember, just installing the ntp package is enough.
> 

Well, I'm afraid that it definitely isn't. The clock is currently two minutes
slow as compared to all the other machines on the network, and also as
compared to http://time.gov/HTML5/.

> 
> Sorry, can't help you there. As far as I can tell that is not supposed 
> to happen. You might want to check /var/log/syslog for anything related 
> to ntpd.
> 

Checked that; there are no relevant error messages.

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Re: How to enable NTP?

2014-03-22 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Saturday 22 March 2014 09:16:15 D. R. Evans wrote:
> I noticed that the clock on my desktop machine is wandering
> significantly, even though ntpd seems to be running:
> 
> 
> 
> [HN:radio] ps auxw | grep ntp
> ntp   2908  0.0  0.0  43184  1532 ?Ss   Mar17   0:13
> /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -g -u 117:123
> n7dr 22453  0.0  0.0   7836   868 pts/5S+   09:11   0:00 grep
> ntp [HN:radio]
> 
> 
> 
> but if I go to the KDE system settings, the option under Date & Time |
> set date and time automatically is greyed out, and it is not enabled.

The Help says, this settings tells KDE to use ntpdate or rdate to set 
the clock at the start of a session. Presumably, you have installed 
neither and that may be a good thing because ntp does a more thorough 
job of keeping the clock accurate.

> What do I need to do to enable NTP properly in debian?

As far as I remember, just installing the ntp package is enough.

> (I'm used to this all happening automatically in Kubuntu, so I was
> quite surprised to discover that the clock is a couple of minutes in
> error, especially since "ps" says that ntpd is running.)

Sorry, can't help you there. As far as I can tell that is not supposed 
to happen. You might want to check /var/log/syslog for anything related 
to ntpd.

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How to enable NTP?

2014-03-22 Thread D. R. Evans
I noticed that the clock on my desktop machine is wandering significantly,
even though ntpd seems to be running:



[HN:radio] ps auxw | grep ntp
ntp   2908  0.0  0.0  43184  1532 ?Ss   Mar17   0:13
/usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -g -u 117:123
n7dr 22453  0.0  0.0   7836   868 pts/5S+   09:11   0:00 grep ntp
[HN:radio]



but if I go to the KDE system settings, the option under Date & Time | set
date and time automatically is greyed out, and it is not enabled.

What do I need to do to enable NTP properly in debian?

(I'm used to this all happening automatically in Kubuntu, so I was quite
surprised to discover that the clock is a couple of minutes in error,
especially since "ps" says that ntpd is running.)

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