Plasma 5 won"t starting

2015-08-21 Thread അഖിൽ കൃഷ്ണൻ എസ് .
I'm in Debian Sid with KDE5. But after a recent update done 2 weeks before,
KDE wont getting started. Only the mouse pointer is shown after login. I
thinks (not sure) something happened to KWin. Any troubleshooting willbe
highly appreciated.

Regards,
Akhilan

Off: Eventhough KDM starts up the Icons & Style shown in Login manager is
Gnome Style.


Re: Plasma 5 won"t starting

2015-08-21 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Friday 21 August 2015 14:06:58 അഖിൽ കൃഷ്ണൻ എസ്. wrote:
> I'm in Debian Sid with KDE5. But after a recent update done 2 weeks before,
> KDE wont getting started.

Check the debian-kde ML archives (https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/), there 
are various posts related to these problems.
In short: Debian Sid is rather broken atm and will be for some time. Downgrade 
to testing and things should _mostly_ work.

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Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?

2015-08-21 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Friday 21 August 2015, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 August 2015 17:38:52 Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
> > On Sunday 16 August 2015, Gary Dale wrote:
> > > I'm hoping that losing the ability to drag edges and corners to resize
> > > windows is temporary and that the KDE designers aren't trying to be
> > > more like Gnome.
> > 
> > It is a Debian packaging bug in the breeze mouse-cursors. If you use
> > oxygen mouse-cursors you will get the right resize types. I original
> > thought it was kwin issue and talked with Martin Gräßlin about it, and
> > he instantly knew what the issue was as Fedora had had the exact same
> > packaging issue.
> 
> Is there a bug filed for that?

No Gräßlin said he would look into it since he is also a Debian user. 

Martin, what was the issue with mouse cursors and packing?

Best Regards
`Allan



Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?

2015-08-21 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Friday, August 21, 2015 12:50:58 PM Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
> On Friday 21 August 2015, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote:
> > On Wednesday 19 August 2015 17:38:52 Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
> > > On Sunday 16 August 2015, Gary Dale wrote:
> > > > I'm hoping that losing the ability to drag edges and corners to resize
> > > > windows is temporary and that the KDE designers aren't trying to be
> > > > more like Gnome.
> > > 
> > > It is a Debian packaging bug in the breeze mouse-cursors. If you use
> > > oxygen mouse-cursors you will get the right resize types. I original
> > > thought it was kwin issue and talked with Martin Gräßlin about it, and
> > > he instantly knew what the issue was as Fedora had had the exact same
> > > packaging issue.
> > 
> > Is there a bug filed for that?
> 
> No Gräßlin said he would look into it since he is also a Debian user.
> 
> Martin, what was the issue with mouse cursors and packing?

sorry didn't get to look into it yet after Akademy. The issue on Ubuntu was 
that there were default fallback themes not being setup correctly.

Comparing the packages for Ubuntu and Debian I see the following difference:
/etc/X11/cursors/Breeze_Snow.theme
/etc/X11/cursors/breeze_cursors.theme

Relevant changelog entry on Ubuntu:

  * Revise postinst and prerm for cursor themes. The themes now
get inheritance configs created that we use for the default symlink which
should make the default setup work as expected.

 -- Harald Sitter   Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:59:09 +0200

Hope that helps,

Cheers,
Martin

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Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?

2015-08-21 Thread Gary Dale

On 19/08/15 11:38 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:

On Sunday 16 August 2015, Gary Dale wrote:

I'm hoping that losing the ability to drag edges and corners to resize
windows is temporary and that the KDE designers aren't trying to be more
like Gnome.

It is a Debian packaging bug in the breeze mouse-cursors. If you use oxygen
mouse-cursors you will get the right resize types. I original thought it was
kwin issue and talked with Martin Gräßlin about it, and he instantly knew what
the issue was as Fedora had had the exact same packaging issue.

`Allan

You're right, the drag capability seems to be there but because the 
cursors aren't changing, it's hard to get the drag point correct.




Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?

2015-08-21 Thread Facundo Aguilera
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Gary Dale  wrote:
> On 19/08/15 11:38 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday 16 August 2015, Gary Dale wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm hoping that losing the ability to drag edges and corners to resize
>>> windows is temporary and that the KDE designers aren't trying to be more
>>> like Gnome.
>>
>> It is a Debian packaging bug in the breeze mouse-cursors. If you use
>> oxygen
>> mouse-cursors you will get the right resize types. I original thought it
>> was
>> kwin issue and talked with Martin Gräßlin about it, and he instantly knew
>> what
>> the issue was as Fedora had had the exact same packaging issue.
>>
>> `Allan
>>
> You're right, the drag capability seems to be there but because the cursors
> aren't changing, it's hard to get the drag point correct.
>

Dark breeze cursors do not have this problem either.


Facu



Plasma does not load after login

2015-08-21 Thread Richard Barmann
Is there a way to go back to 14.xx version? I cannot run 15,04 as plasma 
stops.

Dick Barmann



Re: Plasma does not load after login

2015-08-21 Thread Christian Hilberg
Am Freitag 21 August 2015, 10:35:01 schrieb Richard Barmann:
> Is there a way to go back to 14.xx version? I cannot run 15,04 as plasma 
> stops.
> Dick Barmann

Quoting a reply to a previous posting also regarding plasma
not starting up:

"Check the debian-kde ML archives (https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/), there 
are various posts related to these problems."

...many of which are in August 2015, as I may add.

Regards,
Christian


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Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?

2015-08-21 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Friday 21 August 2015 14:04:43 Martin Graesslin wrote:
[snip] 
> sorry didn't get to look into it yet after Akademy. The issue on Ubuntu was
> that there were default fallback themes not being setup correctly.
> 
> Comparing the packages for Ubuntu and Debian I see the following difference:
> /etc/X11/cursors/Breeze_Snow.theme
> /etc/X11/cursors/breeze_cursors.theme
> 
> Relevant changelog entry on Ubuntu:
> 
>   * Revise postinst and prerm for cursor themes. The themes now
> get inheritance configs created that we use for the default symlink
> which should make the default setup work as expected.

Indeed it does. Thanks!

-- 

Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
http://perezmeyer.com.ar/
http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/


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Re: Any idea when KDE will be working properly in Stretch?

2015-08-21 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Friday 21 August 2015 15:53:50 you wrote:
[snip]
> > Relevant changelog entry on Ubuntu:
> >   * Revise postinst and prerm for cursor themes. The themes now
> >   
> > get inheritance configs created that we use for the default symlink
> > 
> > which should make the default setup work as expected.
> 
> Indeed it does. Thanks!

Bug filled as #796411 https://bugs.debian.org/796411

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http://perezmeyer.com.ar/
http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/


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Re: Plasma 5 won"t starting

2015-08-21 Thread അഖിൽ കൃഷ്ണൻ എസ് .
Somebody identified what is the actual problem?
On 21 Aug 2015 14:21, "Diederik de Haas"  wrote:

> On Friday 21 August 2015 14:06:58 അഖിൽ കൃഷ്ണൻ എസ്. wrote:
> > I'm in Debian Sid with KDE5. But after a recent update done 2 weeks
> before,
> > KDE wont getting started.
>
> Check the debian-kde ML archives (https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/),
> there
> are various posts related to these problems.
> In short: Debian Sid is rather broken atm and will be for some time.
> Downgrade
> to testing and things should _mostly_ work.


Re: Plasma 5 won"t starting

2015-08-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson

On 08/21/2015 01:36 AM, അഖിൽ കൃഷ്ണൻ എസ്. wrote:

I'm in Debian Sid with KDE5. But after a recent update done 2 weeks
before, KDE wont getting started. Only the mouse pointer is shown after
login. I thinks (not sure) something happened to KWin. Any
troubleshooting willbe highly appreciated.

Regards,
Akhilan

Off: Eventhough KDM starts up the Icons & Style shown in Login manager
is Gnome Style.



A problem in packages libkf5windowsystem* was fixed two days ago.
What you post sounds like you need to install/upgrade package 
'plasma-desktop'.

--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian - Sid - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15
Registered Linux User #380263



Re: Plasma does not load after login

2015-08-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson

On 08/21/2015 07:35 AM, Richard Barmann wrote:

Is there a way to go back to 14.xx version? I cannot run 15,04 as plasma
stops.
Dick Barmann


I checked this in synaptic and yes you can go-back but you need to add 
the Jessie/stable repos to do it and install 'kde-plasma-desktop', it's 
going to remove what plasma-5 packages you have installed and install 
kde-4. 'kde-plasma-desktop' is broken in both testing and unstable, but 
some of us like playing with broken toys. :)

--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian - Sid - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15
Registered Linux User #380263



Re: Plasma 5 doesn't start after update on Stretch

2015-08-21 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder
Am 20.08.2015 um 10:12 schrieb Hillel Lubman:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:50:22 Jimmy Johnson wrote:

> Here is what I did for the reference:
> 
> Created /etc/apt/preferences.d/snapshots
> like this:
> 
> Package: *
> Pin: origin "snapshot.debian.org"
> Pin-Priority: 1001
> 
> Then created /etc/apt/sources.list.d/snapshots.list
> like this:
> 
> deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20150817T213310Z/ testing 
> main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20150817T213310Z/ testing 
> main contrib non-free
> 
> And then run:
> 
> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
> 
> and it downgraded those packages to the working set. Don't forget to comment 
> out or remove that preference and apt source after you downgrade the packages.

If you do it like that, ALL packages will be downgrade to snapshot level. I 
think it is better to restrict this activity to just the two packages i 
question. 

Here is what I did:

1) Download the 2 packages from http://snapshot.debian.org/. There is a "search 
binary package" function which allows to search for libkdecorations2-5 and 
libkdecorations2private5. 
Download versions 4:5.3.2-1

2) Install them via "dkpg -i "

3) Pin the two packages to prevent future upgrades:

Package: libkdecorations2-5
Pin: version 4:5.3.2-1
Pin-Priority: 1000

Package: libkdecorations2private5
Pin: version 4:5.3.2-1
Pin-Priority: 1000

That does the trick on my machine.


Matthias