Applications 15.12
Hi, Applications 15.12 have been introduced in experimental a little bit more than 2 month ago: I'm very keen about seeing them in testing or even in sid, because this version would allegedly fix that bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351913 which is preventing me, and everyone else following testing I believe, to have pdf preview in Dolphin for many month now. I might be mistaken though about that actually being the reason I don't have preview because testing version (of kdegraphics-thumbnailers) isn't really 15.08 designated as being the culprit... Anyway, are there issues preventing 15.12 from moving to sid, as it is the case for Plasma 5.5? By the way I did install kdegraphics-thumbnailers 15.12 from exp; I do now have a list item which I can tick in order to have ps/pdf preview; actual preview I don't have yet... What I think is that if the package were in sid, more people would install it, and I would have more chance to see my issue fixed. Chris
Re: plasma 5.5 in experimental
On Thursday 14 April 2016 23:09:01 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > For packaging I think Maxy´s mass-uploading new packages with his scripts What I gathered is that Maxy is further improving the automation regarding making new releases/packages and when that's working well, we'll see the influx of new plasma packages in unstable. This is not linked to the upload of Qt5.6.1 afaik signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: plasma 5.5 in experimental
Hello Marc, On Donnerstag, 14. April 2016 21:37:03 CEST Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 07:53:42PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > > I'm afraid that's an issue of the builders. it will get solved whenever > > either qt 5.6 gets into unstable (we are hopping to have the rc soon) or > > the kde stuff does. > > The situation seems to be unchanged since from two months ago. May I > ask for an update? What's the reason for Debian unstable KDE being > half a year behind upstream with the last unstable upload being four > months old, having missed an entire upstream release row (the 5.5 > numbers)? > > Is this just lack of personpower or a technical issue? I really like to see things updated as well. From what I gathered the situation is still blocked by Qt 5.6.1 being finalized and entering unstable. unormal on #debian-qt-kde gathered as much as: "lisandro told me yesterday that 5.6.1 is planned 6 to 8 weeks after 5.6 (we're now in week 4 or so) and then IIRC they plan to first upload to experimental and then to unstable." "Target to get Qt 5.6.1 out at the beginning of May" Thing is while Qt 5 has hefty regressions already that break multiscreen via randr completely, such as: [kwin] [Bug 361704] New: window on external screen disappears when hibernating with external screen connected and resuming when it is not connected https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361704 which are summarized into [kwin] [Bug 341497] Segfault in Qt since the (at least) the xcb screen backend cannot deal with "no screen" conditions https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341497 and Qt GUI application disappear or crash when no screens are available https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-42985 I already read that while Qt 5.6 hopefully fixes these (still not sure), it also contains *new* regressions: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361704#c9 So it appears to me right now there are at least some severe issues with the foundation Plasma / KF 5 is based on: Qt. I didn´t read about why Qt/KDE debian team waits for Qt 5.6.1 instead of going with Qt 5.6 for unstable, but that may be part of the reason. If you want to find out in more detail, I suggest you ask on #debian-qt-kde on OFTC IRC. Of course I think the Debian Qt/KDE team can benefit from more helping hands. For packaging I think Maxy´s mass-uploading new packages with his scripts and other people helping with packaging is working out quite good already. But any new packages need user testing then, especially those batch uploaded ones, and the Debian bugtracker in regards to Plasma 5 is in a sorry state. On DebConf I gathered from Maxy that the Qt/KDE team really appreciate any help with bug triaging. So or so, nothing of what I write is an official statement of the team. Thats just as much as I gathered here and there. So hopefully beginning of May Qt 5.6.1 will enter experimental, then unstable and… then it might go quite quick. I saw Maxy uploading 50+ or even 100+ packages a day often enough already :). Thanks, -- Martin
Re: plasma 5.5 in experimental
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 07:53:42PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > I'm afraid that's an issue of the builders. it will get solved whenever > either qt 5.6 gets into unstable (we are hopping to have the rc soon) or > the kde stuff does. The situation seems to be unchanged since from two months ago. May I ask for an update? What's the reason for Debian unstable KDE being half a year behind upstream with the last unstable upload being four months old, having missed an entire upstream release row (the 5.5 numbers)? Is this just lack of personpower or a technical issue? Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421
Re: Kmail / Akonadi hanging, more
On Thu 14 Apr 2016 03:45:57 PM Tim Ruehsen wrote: > On Thursday 14 April 2016 06:42:45 Thomas Fjellstrom wrote: > > On Wed 13 Apr 2016 11:24:29 PM David Baron wrote: > > > Other error states demanding re-login: > > > > > > Ineffective move or removal of message. Simple stays in its folder. No > > > marking as read. Nada. > > > > I generally just use the akonadi console (previously the settings panel > > for > > it that has since disappeared) to stop and restart akonadi and that fixes > > it most/all of the time. > > Normally it does. But I have to do it 5-10 times a day - a bit annoying. My problems have mostly went away. Its only after a few days that it'll happen. And it might have been made worse by defective memory. > Before we invest too many thoughts into 4.x versions... What about kdepim > from experimental ? I tried to pull it in today, but too many KDE packages > would not resolve / would be removed. > I would really like to know if someone managed to pull it in and how. Maybe > the new versions have a few things fixed !? I hope so. I only use kmail because i haven't found a better email client that supports multiple accounts as well as kmail does. > Tim -- Thomas Fjellstrom tho...@fjellstrom.ca
Re: Kmail / Akonadi hanging, more
I don't know that it might help much, but I did have this problem for some month, some month ago, yet I doesn't show anymore since a couple of month. And I follow plain testing. Chris On Thursday, April 14, 2016 15:45:57 Tim Ruehsen wrote: > On Thursday 14 April 2016 06:42:45 Thomas Fjellstrom wrote: > > On Wed 13 Apr 2016 11:24:29 PM David Baron wrote: > > > Other error states demanding re-login: > > > > > > Ineffective move or removal of message. Simple stays in its folder. No > > > marking as read. Nada. > > > > I generally just use the akonadi console (previously the settings panel > > for > > it that has since disappeared) to stop and restart akonadi and that fixes > > it most/all of the time. > > Normally it does. But I have to do it 5-10 times a day - a bit annoying. > > Before we invest too many thoughts into 4.x versions... What about kdepim > from experimental ? I tried to pull it in today, but too many KDE packages > would not resolve / would be removed. > I would really like to know if someone managed to pull it in and how. Maybe > the new versions have a few things fixed !? > > Tim
Re: Kmail / Akonadi hanging, more
On Thursday 14 April 2016 06:42:45 Thomas Fjellstrom wrote: > On Wed 13 Apr 2016 11:24:29 PM David Baron wrote: > > Other error states demanding re-login: > > > > Ineffective move or removal of message. Simple stays in its folder. No > > marking as read. Nada. > > I generally just use the akonadi console (previously the settings panel for > it that has since disappeared) to stop and restart akonadi and that fixes > it most/all of the time. Normally it does. But I have to do it 5-10 times a day - a bit annoying. Before we invest too many thoughts into 4.x versions... What about kdepim from experimental ? I tried to pull it in today, but too many KDE packages would not resolve / would be removed. I would really like to know if someone managed to pull it in and how. Maybe the new versions have a few things fixed !? Tim signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Kmail / Akonadi hanging
Hi,
I have seen it once or twice, restarting kmail/kontact helped me.
But i have another problem, my whole inbox is (re)downloaded several times a
week.
Content of inbox just disappears and then it starts to jump back in from year
2013
Libor
> Since a while (few months) akonadi 'hangs' from time to time.
> This happens when reading or removing emails from my folders.
> When it happens, Kmail shows me a nice gfx saying "Retrieving Folder
> Contents" and "Please wait ..."
>
> No matter how long I wait... Kmail does not recover.
> Then, I open a console and do 'akonadictl restart', sometimes 'akonadictl
> fsck'. Kmail starts working again for a while...
> BTW, restarting Kmail does not help at all.
>
> I see this issue happen on two different SID installations. I already
> downgraded on installation to testing, but it did not change a thing.
>
> Right now it happened again (I can write this mail but sending wouldn't
> work. So I have to 'akonadictl restart' before I send it).
>
> But today, I have console output from akonadictl. Maybe someone may
> understand it and can point me to a final solution :-)
>
> ###
> processing retrieval request for item 48489 parts: ("HEAD", "RFC822") of
> resource: "akonadi_mixedmaildir_resource_0"
> Maildir::size unable to find: "1460545315.R604.blitz-lx"
> akonadi_mixedmaildir_resource_0(6928)/akonadiresource (maildir): Failed to
> read item "1460545315.R604.blitz-lx" in Maildir "/usr/oms/Mail/inbox"
> akonadi_mixedmaildir_resource_0(6928)/akonadiresource (maildir): "Error
> while reading mails from folder "
> continuing
> request for item 48489 "1460545315.R604.blitz-lx" failed: "Unable to
> retrieve item from resource: Invalid item retrieved"
> ItemRetrieverException : Unable to retrieve item from resource:
> Invalid item retrieved
> posting retrieval request for item 48352 there are 1 queues and 0 items
> in mine
> request for item 48352 still pending - waiting
> processing retrieval request for item 48352 parts: ("RFC822", "HEAD") of
> resource: "akonadi_mixedmaildir_resource_0"
> continuing
> request for item 48352 succeeded
> posting retrieval request for item 48489 there are 1 queues and 0 items
> in mine
> request for item 48489 still pending - waiting
> processing retrieval request for item 48489 parts: ("RFC822", "HEAD") of
> resource: "akonadi_mixedmaildir_resource_0"
> Maildir::size unable to find: "1460545315.R604.blitz-lx"
> akonadi_mixedmaildir_resource_0(6928)/akonadiresource (maildir): Failed to
> read item "1460545315.R604.blitz-lx" in Maildir "/usr/oms/Mail/inbox"
> akonadi_mixedmaildir_resource_0(6928)/akonadiresource (maildir): "Error
> while reading mails from folder "
> continuing
> request for item 48489 "1460545315.R604.blitz-lx" failed: "Unable to
> retrieve item from resource: Invalid item retrieved"
> ItemRetrieverException : Unable to retrieve item from resource:
> Invalid item retrieved
> ###
>
>
> Any idea how I can fix this ?
>
>
> With Best regards,
>
> Tim
Re: Kmail / Akonadi hanging, more
On Wed 13 Apr 2016 11:24:29 PM David Baron wrote: > Other error states demanding re-login: > > Ineffective move or removal of message. Simple stays in its folder. No > marking as read. Nada. I generally just use the akonadi console (previously the settings panel for it that has since disappeared) to stop and restart akonadi and that fixes it most/all of the time. -- Thomas Fjellstrom tho...@fjellstrom.ca
Re: Kmail / Akonadi hanging, more
Other error states demanding re-login: Ineffective move or removal of message. Simple stays in its folder. No marking as read. Nada.
Re: Kmail / Akonadi hanging
On Wednesday 13 April 2016 15:13:24 Tim Ruehsen wrote: > Since a while (few months) akonadi 'hangs' from time to time. > This happens when reading or removing emails from my folders. > When it happens, Kmail shows me a nice gfx saying "Retrieving Folder > Contents" and "Please wait ..." > > No matter how long I wait... Kmail does not recover. > Then, I open a console and do 'akonadictl restart', sometimes 'akonadictl > fsck'. Kmail starts working again for a while... > BTW, restarting Kmail does not help at all. >. Sometimes, killing it and restarting will get it back on track. Logging out and re-logging in most reliable.
