Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested

2016-07-26 Thread Sandro Knauß
Hey,

> I don´t know whats up with your system, but my system shows this:

mmh interessting - but the search works forme fine ( i actually use the search 
quite often) Maybe I switched before the filepath was moved and it is saved 
somewhere. But with ps and ls we see the correct files for sure :D

> > to enable debuging output for akonadi search use kdebugsettings.
> > @martin kdebugdialog/ kdebugdialog5 are not more useful anymore for
> > kdepim,
> > because it has switched logging to qt logging categories.
> 
> Thanks, I didn´t know this. Any other tool to use instead?

Nearly all KF5 using qt logging categories fromthe kde applications i don't 
know. But qt logging categories are standard qt, so application will move to 
use it.

Regards,

sandro



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Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested

2016-07-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2016, 19:13:40 CEST schrieb Sandro Knauß:
> Hi,
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > Does this also happen when you remove ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db?
> > Move it out of the way and also have "initialIndexingDone=false" false
> > set and then restart.
> 
> wait my systems tells me that the files are still under
> ~/.local/share/baloo/ contacts etc.
> 
> % ps aux | grep akonadi_in
> % ls -lsa  /proc//fd

I don´t know whats up with your system, but my system shows this:

martin@merkaba:~> ls -l /proc/4329/fd | cut -c44- | grep .DB
13 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/email/record.DB
14 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/email/termlist.DB
15 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/email/postlist.DB
17 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/emailContacts/record.DB
18 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/emailContacts/termlist.DB
19 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/emailContacts/position.DB
20 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/emailContacts/postlist.DB
22 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/contacts/record.DB
23 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/contacts/termlist.DB
24 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/contacts/position.DB
25 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/contacts/postlist.DB
27 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/notes/record.DB
28 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/notes/termlist.DB
29 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/notes/postlist.DB
31 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/calendars/record.DB
32 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/calendars/termlist.DB
33 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/calendars/position.DB
34 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/calendars/postlist.DB
36 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/collections/record.DB
37 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/collections/termlist.DB
38 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/collections/position.DB
39 -> /home/martin/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/collections/postlist.DB

> to enable debuging output for akonadi search use kdebugsettings.
> @martin kdebugdialog/ kdebugdialog5 are not more useful anymore for kdepim, 
> because it has switched logging to qt logging categories.

Thanks, I didn´t know this. Any other tool to use instead?

Thanks,
-- 
Martin



Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested

2016-07-26 Thread Sandro Knauß
Hi,

[snip]
> Does this also happen when you remove ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db? Move
> it out of the way and also have "initialIndexingDone=false" false set and
> then restart.

wait my systems tells me that the files are still under ~/.local/share/baloo/
contacts etc.

% ps aux | grep akonadi_in
% ls -lsa  /proc//fd
 
> If that doesn´t work, I think I don´t have any idea anymore. Escept than to
> watch ~/.xsession-errors, with relevant stuff in kdebugdialog dialog
> enabled.

Well we can first test the xapian db itself. You need xapian-tools installed:

 % delve ~/.local/share/baloo/email
UUID = blablabla
number of documents = 40123456
average document length = 1900.00
document length lower bound = 3
document length upper bound = 600
highest document id ever used = 705000
has positional information = false

%xapian-cheeck ~/.local/share/baloo/email

and you can ask the terms for a giving element in akonadi by:
% delve ~/.local/share/baloo/email -r 297603
[see a list of all terms for this item]


to enable debuging output for akonadi search use kdebugsettings.
@martin kdebugdialog/ kdebugdialog5 are not more useful anymore for kdepim, 
because it has switched logging to qt logging categories.

Regards,

sandro


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Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested

2016-07-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2016, 17:06:37 CEST schrieb Tim Ruehsen:
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:51:14 PM CEST Tim Ruehsen wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:09:24 AM CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > Hi Tim,
> > > 
> > > Am Montag, 25. Juli 2016, 22:10:36 CEST schrieb Tim Rühsen:
> > > > On Montag, 25. Juli 2016 17:24:45 CEST Sandro Knauß wrote:
> > > > > > It shows up with green Button and "Ready".
> > > > > 
> > > > > did you tried to restart akonadi? akonadictl restart? Because only
> > > > > with
> > > > > that akonadi will recognize new agents etc.
> > > > 
> > > > I even rebooted without effect.
> > > > And I see absolutely the same issues at a different (much newer) Sid
> > > > installation. Find Messages just doesn't work. The *akonadisearch*
> > > > packets
> > > > were also missing - I manually installed here as well.
> > > 
> > > I think you need to tweak this one:
> > > 
> > > martin@merkaba:~/.config> cat baloorc
> > > [Akonadi]
> > > aborted=false
> > > agentIndexingVersion=4
> > > dirtyCollections=
> > > initialIndexingDone=true
> > > 
> > > I´d even just remove it, so it redos the initial indexing, cause if it
> > > has
> > > "initialIndexingDone=true" in it, it won´t index the whole collections
> > > anymore. I bet it may have this in it from KDE SC 4 times… after
> > > migration
> > > of configuration, but I am not sure.
> > > 
> > > It stores the index data it stores in ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db –
> > > this directory totals to 2 GiB on my system. In case that Xapian
> > > database
> > > is corrupted somehow, it may crash. So for a clean start, it may make
> > > sense
> > > to remove that directory as well.
> > 
> > I removed package 'baloo-utils', stopped KMail, stopped akonadi, removed
> > ~/.config/baloorc and removed ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db. Than I
> > rebooted.
> > 
> > After reboot I started KMail and waited a few minutes... than
> > 
> > $ cat ~/.config/baloorc
> > [Akonadi]
> > agentIndexingVersion=4
> > dirtyCollections=
> > initialIndexingDone=true
> > 
> > $ l ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db
> > total 32
> > drwxr-xr-x 8 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 .
> > drwxr-xr-x 8 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 ..
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 calendars
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:40:00 collections
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 contacts
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:41:40 email
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:41:40 emailContacts
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 notes
> > 
> > $ du ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db
> > 20  /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/calendars
> > 20  /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/notes
> > 312 /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/email
> > 104 /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/emailContacts
> > 20  /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/contacts
> > 72  /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/collections
> > 552 /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db
> > 
> > Tools/Find Messages in KMail still not working.
> > 
> > $ ps -ef|grep akonadi
> > oms   6056 1  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_control
> > oms   6063  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 akonadiserver
> > oms   6067  6063  0 16:38 ?00:00:01 /usr/sbin/mysqld
> > --defaults-file=/usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf
> > --datadir=/usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/
> > --socket=/tmp/akonadi-oms.hwHVDb/mysql.socket oms   6119  6056  0
> > 16:38
> > ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_akonotes_resource --identifier
> > akonadi_akonotes_resource_0 oms   6120  6056  0 16:38 ?   
> > 00:00:00
> > /usr/bin/akonadi_akonotes_resource --identifier
> > akonadi_akonotes_resource_1
> > oms   6121  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00
> > /usr/bin/akonadi_archivemail_agent --identifier akonadi_archivemail_agent
> > oms   6122  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00
> > /usr/bin/akonadi_contacts_resource --identifier
> > akonadi_contacts_resource_0
> > oms   6123  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00
> > /usr/bin/akonadi_followupreminder_agent --identifier
> > akonadi_followupreminder_agent oms   6124  6056  0 16:38 ?
> > 00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_ical_resource --identifier
> > akonadi_ical_resource_0 oms   6125  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00
> > /usr/bin/akonadi_ical_resource --identifier akonadi_ical_resource_1 oms
> > 
> >   6128  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_ical_resource
> > 
> > --identifier akonadi_ical_resource_2 oms   6129  6056  0 16:38 ?
> > 00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_imap_resource --identifier
> > akonadi_imap_resource_1 oms   6131  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00
> > /usr/bin/akonadi_indexing_agent --identifier akonadi_indexing_agent oms
> > 
> >   6133  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_maildir_resource
> > 
> > --identifier akonadi_maildir_resource_1 oms   6137  6056  0 16:38 ?
> > 
> >00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_maildispatcher_agent 

Am I wrong understanding akonadi won't go to testing?

2016-07-26 Thread inkbottle
Hi,

I understand there: https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=akonadi
the only excuse remaining for akonadi to move to testing is:
https://release.debian.org/testing/freeze_policy.html
And I see no reason why this excuse should be removed, I don't see it would fit 
in "Changes which can be considered".

Or am I mistaken there?

Chris



Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested

2016-07-26 Thread Tim Ruehsen
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:51:14 PM CEST Tim Ruehsen wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:09:24 AM CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Hi Tim,
> > 
> > Am Montag, 25. Juli 2016, 22:10:36 CEST schrieb Tim Rühsen:
> > > On Montag, 25. Juli 2016 17:24:45 CEST Sandro Knauß wrote:
> > > > > It shows up with green Button and "Ready".
> > > > 
> > > > did you tried to restart akonadi? akonadictl restart? Because only
> > > > with
> > > > that akonadi will recognize new agents etc.
> > > 
> > > I even rebooted without effect.
> > > And I see absolutely the same issues at a different (much newer) Sid
> > > installation. Find Messages just doesn't work. The *akonadisearch*
> > > packets
> > > were also missing - I manually installed here as well.
> > 
> > I think you need to tweak this one:
> > 
> > martin@merkaba:~/.config> cat baloorc
> > [Akonadi]
> > aborted=false
> > agentIndexingVersion=4
> > dirtyCollections=
> > initialIndexingDone=true
> > 
> > I´d even just remove it, so it redos the initial indexing, cause if it has
> > "initialIndexingDone=true" in it, it won´t index the whole collections
> > anymore. I bet it may have this in it from KDE SC 4 times… after migration
> > of configuration, but I am not sure.
> > 
> > It stores the index data it stores in ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db –
> > this directory totals to 2 GiB on my system. In case that Xapian database
> > is corrupted somehow, it may crash. So for a clean start, it may make
> > sense
> > to remove that directory as well.
> 
> I removed package 'baloo-utils', stopped KMail, stopped akonadi, removed
> ~/.config/baloorc and removed ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db. Than I
> rebooted.
> 
> After reboot I started KMail and waited a few minutes... than
> 
> $ cat ~/.config/baloorc
> [Akonadi]
> agentIndexingVersion=4
> dirtyCollections=
> initialIndexingDone=true
> 
> $ l ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db
> total 32
> drwxr-xr-x 8 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 .
> drwxr-xr-x 8 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 ..
> drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 calendars
> drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:40:00 collections
> drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 contacts
> drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:41:40 email
> drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:41:40 emailContacts
> drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 notes
> 
> $ du ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db
> 20  /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/calendars
> 20  /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/notes
> 312 /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/email
> 104 /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/emailContacts
> 20  /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/contacts
> 72  /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/collections
> 552 /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db
> 
> Tools/Find Messages in KMail still not working.
> 
> $ ps -ef|grep akonadi
> oms   6056 1  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_control
> oms   6063  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 akonadiserver
> oms   6067  6063  0 16:38 ?00:00:01 /usr/sbin/mysqld
> --defaults-file=/usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf
> --datadir=/usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/
> --socket=/tmp/akonadi-oms.hwHVDb/mysql.socket oms   6119  6056  0 16:38
> ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_akonotes_resource --identifier
> akonadi_akonotes_resource_0 oms   6120  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00
> /usr/bin/akonadi_akonotes_resource --identifier akonadi_akonotes_resource_1
> oms   6121  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00
> /usr/bin/akonadi_archivemail_agent --identifier akonadi_archivemail_agent
> oms   6122  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00
> /usr/bin/akonadi_contacts_resource --identifier akonadi_contacts_resource_0
> oms   6123  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00
> /usr/bin/akonadi_followupreminder_agent --identifier
> akonadi_followupreminder_agent oms   6124  6056  0 16:38 ?   
> 00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_ical_resource --identifier
> akonadi_ical_resource_0 oms   6125  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00
> /usr/bin/akonadi_ical_resource --identifier akonadi_ical_resource_1 oms
>   6128  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_ical_resource
> --identifier akonadi_ical_resource_2 oms   6129  6056  0 16:38 ?   
> 00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_imap_resource --identifier
> akonadi_imap_resource_1 oms   6131  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00
> /usr/bin/akonadi_indexing_agent --identifier akonadi_indexing_agent oms
>   6133  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_maildir_resource
> --identifier akonadi_maildir_resource_1 oms   6137  6056  0 16:38 ?
>00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_maildispatcher_agent --identifier
> akonadi_maildispatcher_agent oms   6141  6056  0 16:38 ?   
> 00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_mailfilter_agent --identifier
> akonadi_mailfilter_agent oms   6143  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00
> /usr/bin/akonadi_migration_agent --identifier akonadi_migration_agent oms  
> 

Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested

2016-07-26 Thread Tim Ruehsen
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:09:24 AM CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Am Montag, 25. Juli 2016, 22:10:36 CEST schrieb Tim Rühsen:
> > On Montag, 25. Juli 2016 17:24:45 CEST Sandro Knauß wrote:
> > > > It shows up with green Button and "Ready".
> > > 
> > > did you tried to restart akonadi? akonadictl restart? Because only with
> > > that akonadi will recognize new agents etc.
> > 
> > I even rebooted without effect.
> > And I see absolutely the same issues at a different (much newer) Sid
> > installation. Find Messages just doesn't work. The *akonadisearch* packets
> > were also missing - I manually installed here as well.
> 
> I think you need to tweak this one:
> 
> martin@merkaba:~/.config> cat baloorc
> [Akonadi]
> aborted=false
> agentIndexingVersion=4
> dirtyCollections=
> initialIndexingDone=true
>
> I´d even just remove it, so it redos the initial indexing, cause if it has
> "initialIndexingDone=true" in it, it won´t index the whole collections
> anymore. I bet it may have this in it from KDE SC 4 times… after migration
> of configuration, but I am not sure.
> 
> It stores the index data it stores in ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db –
> this directory totals to 2 GiB on my system. In case that Xapian database
> is corrupted somehow, it may crash. So for a clean start, it may make sense
> to remove that directory as well.

I removed package 'baloo-utils', stopped KMail, stopped akonadi, removed 
~/.config/baloorc and removed ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db.
Than I rebooted.

After reboot I started KMail and waited a few minutes... than

$ cat ~/.config/baloorc 
[Akonadi]
agentIndexingVersion=4
dirtyCollections=
initialIndexingDone=true

$ l ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db
total 32
drwxr-xr-x 8 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 .
drwxr-xr-x 8 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 calendars
drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:40:00 collections
drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 contacts
drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:41:40 email
drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:41:40 emailContacts
drwxr-xr-x 2 oms users 4096 26-07-16 16:38:48 notes

$ du ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db
20  /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/calendars
20  /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/notes
312 /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/email
104 /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/emailContacts
20  /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/contacts
72  /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db/collections
552 /usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/search_db

Tools/Find Messages in KMail still not working.

$ ps -ef|grep akonadi
oms   6056 1  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_control
oms   6063  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 akonadiserver
oms   6067  6063  0 16:38 ?00:00:01 /usr/sbin/mysqld 
--defaults-file=/usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf 
--datadir=/usr/oms/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/ 
--socket=/tmp/akonadi-oms.hwHVDb/mysql.socket
oms   6119  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 
/usr/bin/akonadi_akonotes_resource --identifier akonadi_akonotes_resource_0
oms   6120  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 
/usr/bin/akonadi_akonotes_resource --identifier akonadi_akonotes_resource_1
oms   6121  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 
/usr/bin/akonadi_archivemail_agent --identifier akonadi_archivemail_agent
oms   6122  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 
/usr/bin/akonadi_contacts_resource --identifier akonadi_contacts_resource_0
oms   6123  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 
/usr/bin/akonadi_followupreminder_agent --identifier 
akonadi_followupreminder_agent
oms   6124  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_ical_resource 
--identifier akonadi_ical_resource_0
oms   6125  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_ical_resource 
--identifier akonadi_ical_resource_1
oms   6128  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_ical_resource 
--identifier akonadi_ical_resource_2
oms   6129  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_imap_resource 
--identifier akonadi_imap_resource_1
oms   6131  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/akonadi_indexing_agent 
--identifier akonadi_indexing_agent
oms   6133  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 
/usr/bin/akonadi_maildir_resource --identifier akonadi_maildir_resource_1
oms   6137  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 
/usr/bin/akonadi_maildispatcher_agent --identifier akonadi_maildispatcher_agent
oms   6141  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 
/usr/bin/akonadi_mailfilter_agent --identifier akonadi_mailfilter_agent
oms   6143  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 
/usr/bin/akonadi_migration_agent --identifier akonadi_migration_agent
oms   6145  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 
/usr/bin/akonadi_mixedmaildir_resource --identifier 
akonadi_mixedmaildir_resource_0
oms   6147  6056  0 16:38 ?00:00:00 
/usr/bin/akonadi_newmailnotifier_agent --identifier 
akonadi_newmailnotifier_agent
om

Re: Akonadi indexing (was: Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested)

2016-07-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2016, 13:14:14 CEST schrieb Tim Ruehsen:
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:49:20 PM CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > please no cc
> 
> Please anyone use cc for me :-)
> 
> Hi Martin,
> 
> thanks for your extended answer though you are handicapped right now.
> I wish you the best and a fast healing !

Thanks. Getting better every hour.

> > Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2016, 10:13:23 CEST schrieb Tim Ruehsen:
> > > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:09:24 AM CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > […]
> > 
> > > > It stores the index data it stores in ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db
> > > > –
> > > > this directory totals to 2 GiB on my system. In case that Xapian
> > > > database
> > > > is corrupted somehow, it may crash. So for a clean start, it may make
> > > > sense
> > > > to remove that directory as well.
> > > 
> > > This directory contained three subdirs and there was not much data (<
> > > 1MB).
> > > 
> > > > And well when I say remove, I rather suggest you move it out of the
> > > > way,
> > > > instead of removing it immediately.
> > > 
> > > Removed both and restarted KDE (logout / login).
> > > 
> > > Now I get crashes
> > > Application: No such method 'agentName' in interface
> > > 'org.freedesktop.Akonadi.AgentManager' at object path '/AgentManager'
> > > (signature 'ss') (akonadi_baloo_indexer), signal: Aborted
> > > 
> > > akonadi_baloo_indexer(13140)/libakonadi: Unable to register service
> > 
> > AFAIK thats the old KDE SC 4 based indexer, which should not be running at
> > all.
> 
> Ohh. Ahh. Uhh. Ding dong.
> 
> > martin@merkaba:~> ps aux | grep "[b]aloo"
> > martin4104  0.0  1.8 5856360 298408 ?  SNl  Jul25   0:24 /usr/bin/
> > baloo_file
> > 
> > That is file based desktop search
> > 
> > martin@merkaba:~> ps aux | grep "[i]ndexing"
> > martin4329  0.0  0.6 753312 104188 ?   SNl  Jul25   0:33 /usr/bin/
> > akonadi_indexing_agent --identifier akonadi_indexing_agent
> > 
> > This is Akonadi indexing.
> > 
> > I am not even sure how you can still have installed Akonadi baloo indexer
> > when using Qt 5 based Akonadi and to my knowledge meanwhile if you have
> > new
> > qt5/kf5 based kdepim you will also have Qt5 based Akonadi. Maybe there is
> > a
> > breaks/ replaces missing.
> 
> When I first run into the half-way update to 16.04, I had to forcefully
> download/install packages from experimental. I definitely broke things but I
> thought it was cleaned up by now. I still have package 'baloo-utils'
> installed which contains akonadi_baloo_indexer.
> 
> $ apt-file search akonadi_baloo_indexer
> baloo-utils: /usr/bin/akonadi_baloo_indexer
> 
> > I suggest the following:
> > 
> > 1) report a bug with reportbug againsd akonadi-server or so, can still be
> > reassigned. Give all necessary details including dpkg -l | egrep "akonadi|
> > kdepim" | cut -c-72
> > 
> > Please also provide this output here to this list.
> 
> First I check the dependencies with apt-cache show. Onyl if these aren't
> correct, I'll file a bug.

I saw your bug report. I suggest adding the backtrace that mentioned 
akonadi_baloo_indexer to the bug report. You can simply do that by mailing it 
to bugnum...@bugs.debian.org.

> > 2) make sure akonadi_baloo_indexer is gone for good. something like
> > 
> > apt purge $(which akonadi_baloo_indexer)
> > 
> > 3) Move Akonadi indexing agent config + search_db out of the way once
> > again
> > and reboot.
> 
> I'll do that after lunch (and after checking above) and report back.

Great.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin

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Re: Akonadi indexing (was: Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested)

2016-07-26 Thread Tim Ruehsen
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:49:20 PM CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> please no cc

Please anyone use cc for me :-)

Hi Martin,

thanks for your extended answer though you are handicapped right now.
I wish you the best and a fast healing !

> Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2016, 10:13:23 CEST schrieb Tim Ruehsen:
> > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:09:24 AM CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> […]
> 
> > > It stores the index data it stores in ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db –
> > > this directory totals to 2 GiB on my system. In case that Xapian
> > > database
> > > is corrupted somehow, it may crash. So for a clean start, it may make
> > > sense
> > > to remove that directory as well.
> > 
> > This directory contained three subdirs and there was not much data (<
> > 1MB).
> > 
> > > And well when I say remove, I rather suggest you move it out of the way,
> > > instead of removing it immediately.
> > 
> > Removed both and restarted KDE (logout / login).
> > 
> > Now I get crashes
> > Application: No such method 'agentName' in interface
> > 'org.freedesktop.Akonadi.AgentManager' at object path '/AgentManager'
> > (signature 'ss') (akonadi_baloo_indexer), signal: Aborted
> > 
> > akonadi_baloo_indexer(13140)/libakonadi: Unable to register service
> 
> AFAIK thats the old KDE SC 4 based indexer, which should not be running at
> all.

Ohh. Ahh. Uhh. Ding dong.

> martin@merkaba:~> ps aux | grep "[b]aloo"
> martin4104  0.0  1.8 5856360 298408 ?  SNl  Jul25   0:24 /usr/bin/
> baloo_file
> 
> That is file based desktop search
> 
> martin@merkaba:~> ps aux | grep "[i]ndexing"
> martin4329  0.0  0.6 753312 104188 ?   SNl  Jul25   0:33 /usr/bin/
> akonadi_indexing_agent --identifier akonadi_indexing_agent
> 
> This is Akonadi indexing.
> 
> I am not even sure how you can still have installed Akonadi baloo indexer
> when using Qt 5 based Akonadi and to my knowledge meanwhile if you have new
> qt5/kf5 based kdepim you will also have Qt5 based Akonadi. Maybe there is a
> breaks/ replaces missing.

When I first run into the half-way update to 16.04, I had to forcefully 
download/install packages from experimental. I definitely broke things but I 
thought it was cleaned up by now. I still have package 'baloo-utils' installed 
which contains akonadi_baloo_indexer.

$ apt-file search akonadi_baloo_indexer
baloo-utils: /usr/bin/akonadi_baloo_indexer

> I suggest the following:
> 
> 1) report a bug with reportbug againsd akonadi-server or so, can still be
> reassigned. Give all necessary details including dpkg -l | egrep "akonadi|
> kdepim" | cut -c-72
> 
> Please also provide this output here to this list.

First I check the dependencies with apt-cache show. Onyl if these aren't 
correct, I'll file a bug.

> 2) make sure akonadi_baloo_indexer is gone for good. something like
> 
> apt purge $(which akonadi_baloo_indexer)
> 
> 3) Move Akonadi indexing agent config + search_db out of the way once again
> and reboot.

I'll do that after lunch (and after checking above) and report back.



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Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested

2016-07-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2016, 09:37:40 CEST schrieb Tim Ruehsen:
> On Monday, July 25, 2016 10:55:45 PM CEST Diederik de Haas wrote:
> > On maandag 25 juli 2016 22:08:23 CEST Tim Rühsen wrote:
> > > BTW, I can't find such an option at all - maybe just for imap ?
> > 
> > Probably. I almost exclusively use imap.
> > 
> > > I really can't believe that this is a personal problem. I am just
> > > sitting
> > > at a  much newer Sid installation and experience absolutely the same
> > > problems. The question is: what did all of you do that I didn't ? And
> > > are
> > > you sure that indexing and "Tools/Find Messages" really work for you ?
> > 
> > It's working fine here. I can go to a random mail, copy a word from it and
> > put it in the search box and it'll find that mail again.
> > Which database backend are you using for akonadi?
> 
> It is the mysql backend.
> In fact I see (output by akonadi)
> Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL"

Folder search box does not only rely on Akonadi Indexing agent, AFAIK it also 
filters by subject. But for global kmail search + search folders basically 
work as well. Just removing a search folder can be an issue (crash).

-- 
Martin



Re: Akonadi indexing (was: Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested)

2016-07-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2016, 12:49:20 CEST schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> please no cc
> 
> Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2016, 10:13:23 CEST schrieb Tim Ruehsen:
> > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:09:24 AM CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> […]
> 
> > > It stores the index data it stores in ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db –
> > > this directory totals to 2 GiB on my system. In case that Xapian
> > > database
> > > is corrupted somehow, it may crash. So for a clean start, it may make
> > > sense
> > > to remove that directory as well.
> > 
> > This directory contained three subdirs and there was not much data (<
> > 1MB).
> > 
> > > And well when I say remove, I rather suggest you move it out of the way,
> > > instead of removing it immediately.
> > 
> > Removed both and restarted KDE (logout / login).
> > 
> > Now I get crashes
> > Application: No such method 'agentName' in interface
> > 'org.freedesktop.Akonadi.AgentManager' at object path '/AgentManager'
> > (signature 'ss') (akonadi_baloo_indexer), signal: Aborted
> > 
> > akonadi_baloo_indexer(13140)/libakonadi: Unable to register service
> 
> AFAIK thats the old KDE SC 4 based indexer, which should not be running at
> all.
> 
> martin@merkaba:~> ps aux | grep "[b]aloo"
> martin4104  0.0  1.8 5856360 298408 ?  SNl  Jul25   0:24 /usr/bin/
> baloo_file
> 
> That is file based desktop search
> 
> martin@merkaba:~> ps aux | grep "[i]ndexing"
> martin4329  0.0  0.6 753312 104188 ?   SNl  Jul25   0:33 /usr/bin/
> akonadi_indexing_agent --identifier akonadi_indexing_agent
> 
> This is Akonadi indexing.
> 
> I am not even sure how you can still have installed Akonadi baloo indexer
> when using Qt 5 based Akonadi and to my knowledge meanwhile if you have new
> qt5/kf5 based kdepim you will also have Qt5 based Akonadi. Maybe there is a
> breaks/ replaces missing.
> 
> I suggest the following:
> 
> 1) report a bug with reportbug againsd akonadi-server or so, can still be
> reassigned. Give all necessary details including dpkg -l | egrep "akonadi|
> kdepim" | cut -c-72
> 
> Please also provide this output here to this list.
> 
> 2) make sure akonadi_baloo_indexer is gone for good. something like
> 
> apt purge $(which akonadi_baloo_indexer)
> 
> 3) Move Akonadi indexing agent config + search_db out of the way once again
> and reboot.
> 
> But first please really contribute by making a bug report.
> 
> > "org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_baloo_indexer" at dbus: ""
> > Shutting down "0x1032bb0" ...
> > KCrash: Application 'akonadi_baloo_indexer' crashing...
> > KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit
> > KCrash: Connect sock_file=/usr/oms/.kde/socket-blitz-lx/kdeinit4__0
> > Unable to start Dr. Konqi
> > Not forwarding the crash to Apport.
> > ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/akonadi_baloo_indexer' returned with
> > exit code 255 (Unknown error)
> > akonadi_baloo_indexer(13148)/libakonadi: Unable to register service
> > "org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_baloo_indexer" at dbus: ""
> > KCrash: Application 'akonadi_baloo_indexer' crashing...
> > KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit
> > Shutting down "0x1032bb0" ...
> > KCrash: Connect sock_file=/usr/oms/.kde/socket-blitz-lx/kdeinit4__0
> > Unable to start Dr. Konqi
> > Not forwarding the crash to Apport.
> > ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/akonadi_baloo_indexer' returned with
> > exit code 255 (Unknown error)
> > akonadi_baloo_indexer(13156)/libakonadi: Unable to register service
> > "org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_baloo_indexer" at dbus: ""
> > KCrash: Application 'akonadi_baloo_indexer' crashing...
> > KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit
> > KCrash: Connect sock_file=/usr/oms/.kde/socket-blitz-lx/kdeinit4__0
> > 
> > > As Sandro told, it needs to be "akonadi_indexing_agent" being active.
> > > Additionally to that: You can´t configure Akonadi Search with
> > > Systemsettings, Systemsetting just configured the desktop file search.
> > > Basically the mail and contact indexing part of Baloo has been split out
> > > and is now Akonadi search. Almost unchanged, except for search database
> > > location.
> > 
> > Thanks, good to know.
> > "akonadi_indexing_agent" can't be something complicated than... how can it
> > crash at all (and I saw crash often in the past). I couldn't find any -dbg
> > packages, so the backtrace is pretty worthless.
> 
> It doesn´t crash. akonida_baloo_indexer crashes, not the indexing agent.
> 
> > > There is a way in KMail to disable fulltext indexing for folders, but as
> > > I
> > > found out, Akonadi doesn´t respect that setting.
> > > 
> > > I do think Akonadi Search doesn´t receive much love at the moment, and
> > > it
> > > shows.
> > 
> > That renders KMail at least incomplete. It worked perfect for me until
> > KDE4
> > came. From that point on it was getting worse and worse... If there was
> > any
> > easy way to convert all those emails from the last 15 ye

Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested

2016-07-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2016, 09:31:46 CEST schrieb Christian Hilberg:
> Am Dienstag, 19. Juli 2016, 15:56:41 CEST schrieb Christian Hilberg:
> > Am Dienstag 19 Juli 2016, 11:14:30 schrieb Christian Hilberg:
> > > Am Dienstag 19 Juli 2016, 11:01:21 schrieb Christian Hilberg:
> > > > [...]
> > > > While syncing the IMAP folders, the process got stuck at 100% at one
> > > > folder[...] Trying to resolve this now...
> > 
> > [...]
> 
> Well, allowed a second CPU core into my VM and the issue is gone...
> That smells like timing/timeout issue. The missing feedback to the
> user via the UI is already reported upstream, iirc.

Christian, please consider researching, adding to or creating upstream bug 
report, then Debian bug report forwarding to it.

-- 
Martin



Akonadi indexing (was: Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested)

2016-07-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
please no cc

Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2016, 10:13:23 CEST schrieb Tim Ruehsen:
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:09:24 AM CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
[…]
> > It stores the index data it stores in ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db –
> > this directory totals to 2 GiB on my system. In case that Xapian database
> > is corrupted somehow, it may crash. So for a clean start, it may make
> > sense
> > to remove that directory as well.
> 
> This directory contained three subdirs and there was not much data (< 1MB).
> 
> > And well when I say remove, I rather suggest you move it out of the way,
> > instead of removing it immediately.
> 
> Removed both and restarted KDE (logout / login).
> 
> Now I get crashes
> Application: No such method 'agentName' in interface
> 'org.freedesktop.Akonadi.AgentManager' at object path '/AgentManager'
> (signature 'ss') (akonadi_baloo_indexer), signal: Aborted
> 
> akonadi_baloo_indexer(13140)/libakonadi: Unable to register service

AFAIK thats the old KDE SC 4 based indexer, which should not be running at 
all.

martin@merkaba:~> ps aux | grep "[b]aloo"
martin4104  0.0  1.8 5856360 298408 ?  SNl  Jul25   0:24 /usr/bin/
baloo_file

That is file based desktop search

martin@merkaba:~> ps aux | grep "[i]ndexing"
martin4329  0.0  0.6 753312 104188 ?   SNl  Jul25   0:33 /usr/bin/
akonadi_indexing_agent --identifier akonadi_indexing_agent

This is Akonadi indexing.

I am not even sure how you can still have installed Akonadi baloo indexer when 
using Qt 5 based Akonadi and to my knowledge meanwhile if you have new qt5/kf5 
based kdepim you will also have Qt5 based Akonadi. Maybe there is a breaks/
replaces missing.

I suggest the following:

1) report a bug with reportbug againsd akonadi-server or so, can still be 
reassigned. Give all necessary details including dpkg -l | egrep "akonadi|
kdepim" | cut -c-72

Please also provide this output here to this list.

2) make sure akonadi_baloo_indexer is gone for good. something like

apt purge $(which akonadi_baloo_indexer)

3) Move Akonadi indexing agent config + search_db out of the way once again 
and reboot.

But first please really contribute by making a bug report.

> "org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_baloo_indexer" at dbus: ""
> Shutting down "0x1032bb0" ...
> KCrash: Application 'akonadi_baloo_indexer' crashing...
> KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit
> KCrash: Connect sock_file=/usr/oms/.kde/socket-blitz-lx/kdeinit4__0
> Unable to start Dr. Konqi
> Not forwarding the crash to Apport.
> ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/akonadi_baloo_indexer' returned with
> exit code 255 (Unknown error)
> akonadi_baloo_indexer(13148)/libakonadi: Unable to register service
> "org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_baloo_indexer" at dbus: ""
> KCrash: Application 'akonadi_baloo_indexer' crashing...
> KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit
> Shutting down "0x1032bb0" ...
> KCrash: Connect sock_file=/usr/oms/.kde/socket-blitz-lx/kdeinit4__0
> Unable to start Dr. Konqi
> Not forwarding the crash to Apport.
> ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/akonadi_baloo_indexer' returned with
> exit code 255 (Unknown error)
> akonadi_baloo_indexer(13156)/libakonadi: Unable to register service
> "org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_baloo_indexer" at dbus: ""
> KCrash: Application 'akonadi_baloo_indexer' crashing...
> KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit
> KCrash: Connect sock_file=/usr/oms/.kde/socket-blitz-lx/kdeinit4__0
> 
> > As Sandro told, it needs to be "akonadi_indexing_agent" being active.
> > Additionally to that: You can´t configure Akonadi Search with
> > Systemsettings, Systemsetting just configured the desktop file search.
> > Basically the mail and contact indexing part of Baloo has been split out
> > and is now Akonadi search. Almost unchanged, except for search database
> > location.
> 
> Thanks, good to know.
> "akonadi_indexing_agent" can't be something complicated than... how can it
> crash at all (and I saw crash often in the past). I couldn't find any -dbg
> packages, so the backtrace is pretty worthless.

It doesn´t crash. akonida_baloo_indexer crashes, not the indexing agent.

> > There is a way in KMail to disable fulltext indexing for folders, but as I
> > found out, Akonadi doesn´t respect that setting.
> > 
> > I do think Akonadi Search doesn´t receive much love at the moment, and it
> > shows.
> 
> That renders KMail at least incomplete. It worked perfect for me until KDE4
> came. From that point on it was getting worse and worse... If there was any
> easy way to convert all those emails from the last 15 years into a halfway
> working mail client I would do that instead of wasting my time with unloved
> and unsupported crap. But that is OT, and I am not giving up yet.

Tim, I didn´t write that it doesn´t work at all. It basically works here. But 
its more rough than I think is good for an end user who wants to have it 

Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested

2016-07-26 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 04:13:23 AM Tim Ruehsen wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:09:24 AM CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> If there was any
> easy way to convert all those emails from the last 15 years into a halfway
> working mail client I would do that instead of wasting my time with unloved
> and unsupported crap. But that is OT, and I am not giving up yet.

I'm trying to remember--I guess you're using Imap and trying to store a local 
copy of your emails?

I'm not sure about Imap, but if you were using mbox or maildir to store your 
emails, that's pretty standard across quite a few email clients (in other 
words, you could easily switch to some other email client and get access to 
old emails).  

I would think Imap would be similarly standardized?




Re: Kmail: "Save attachments" does not work

2016-07-26 Thread Tim Ruehsen
On Monday, July 25, 2016 5:22:08 PM CEST Sandro Knauß wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> no the sender client is wrong.
> multipart/alternative is defined as the mail client should select ONLY one
> part of the alternatives and ignore every other part, if one is selected.
> See https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc1341/7_2_Multipart.html
> 
> The corect type would be multipart/mixed

Yes, that makes sense.

> But unfortunatelly a mail client needs to work with broken senders, there
> are already a lot of places with comments like "broken apple client" :D The
> hard one here is to find a solution not to break the good clients, that
> using multipart/alternative correctly.
> 
> Can you create a upsteam bug for it and append the mail (and send me the
> bugnumber)? Than I can have a deeper look and find a solution. I'm currently
> reworking the messageviewer, so I'm deeply into the code...

It would be much  more time efficient to send a prepared mail to you. You 
decide 
to open a bug at KDE or just to fix it. I prepared a relatively small email 
that behaves like the original one. I send it to you via sendmail.

Regards, Tim


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Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested

2016-07-26 Thread Tim Ruehsen
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:09:24 AM CEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Am Montag, 25. Juli 2016, 22:10:36 CEST schrieb Tim Rühsen:
> > On Montag, 25. Juli 2016 17:24:45 CEST Sandro Knauß wrote:
> > > > It shows up with green Button and "Ready".
> > > 
> > > did you tried to restart akonadi? akonadictl restart? Because only with
> > > that akonadi will recognize new agents etc.
> > 
> > I even rebooted without effect.
> > And I see absolutely the same issues at a different (much newer) Sid
> > installation. Find Messages just doesn't work. The *akonadisearch* packets
> > were also missing - I manually installed here as well.
> 
> I think you need to tweak this one:
> 
> martin@merkaba:~/.config> cat baloorc
> [Akonadi]
> aborted=false
> agentIndexingVersion=4
> dirtyCollections=
> initialIndexingDone=true
> 
> 
> I´d even just remove it, so it redos the initial indexing, cause if it has
> "initialIndexingDone=true" in it, it won´t index the whole collections
> anymore. I bet it may have this in it from KDE SC 4 times… after migration
> of configuration, but I am not sure.
> 
> It stores the index data it stores in ~/.local/share/akonadi/search_db –
> this directory totals to 2 GiB on my system. In case that Xapian database
> is corrupted somehow, it may crash. So for a clean start, it may make sense
> to remove that directory as well.

This directory contained three subdirs and there was not much data (< 1MB).

> And well when I say remove, I rather suggest you move it out of the way,
> instead of removing it immediately.

Removed both and restarted KDE (logout / login).

Now I get crashes
Application: No such method 'agentName' in interface 
'org.freedesktop.Akonadi.AgentManager' at object path '/AgentManager' 
(signature 'ss') (akonadi_baloo_indexer), signal: Aborted

akonadi_baloo_indexer(13140)/libakonadi: Unable to register service 
"org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_baloo_indexer" at dbus: "" 
Shutting down "0x1032bb0" ...
KCrash: Application 'akonadi_baloo_indexer' crashing...
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit
KCrash: Connect sock_file=/usr/oms/.kde/socket-blitz-lx/kdeinit4__0
Unable to start Dr. Konqi
Not forwarding the crash to Apport.
ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/akonadi_baloo_indexer' returned with 
exit code 255 (Unknown error)
akonadi_baloo_indexer(13148)/libakonadi: Unable to register service 
"org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_baloo_indexer" at dbus: "" 
KCrash: Application 'akonadi_baloo_indexer' crashing...
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit
Shutting down "0x1032bb0" ...
KCrash: Connect sock_file=/usr/oms/.kde/socket-blitz-lx/kdeinit4__0
Unable to start Dr. Konqi
Not forwarding the crash to Apport.
ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/akonadi_baloo_indexer' returned with 
exit code 255 (Unknown error)
akonadi_baloo_indexer(13156)/libakonadi: Unable to register service 
"org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Agent.akonadi_baloo_indexer" at dbus: "" 
KCrash: Application 'akonadi_baloo_indexer' crashing...
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit
KCrash: Connect sock_file=/usr/oms/.kde/socket-blitz-lx/kdeinit4__0


> As Sandro told, it needs to be "akonadi_indexing_agent" being active.
> Additionally to that: You can´t configure Akonadi Search with
> Systemsettings, Systemsetting just configured the desktop file search.
> Basically the mail and contact indexing part of Baloo has been split out
> and is now Akonadi search. Almost unchanged, except for search database
> location.

Thanks, good to know.
"akonadi_indexing_agent" can't be something complicated than... how can it 
crash at all (and I saw crash often in the past). I couldn't find any -dbg 
packages, so the backtrace is pretty worthless.

> There is a way in KMail to disable fulltext indexing for folders, but as I
> found out, Akonadi doesn´t respect that setting.
> 
> I do think Akonadi Search doesn´t receive much love at the moment, and it
> shows.

That renders KMail at least incomplete. It worked perfect for me until KDE4 
came. From that point on it was getting worse and worse... If there was any 
easy way to convert all those emails from the last 15 years into a halfway 
working mail client I would do that instead of wasting my time with unloved 
and unsupported crap. But that is OT, and I am not giving up yet.

Regards, Tim


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Re: KDEPIM ready to be more broadly tested

2016-07-26 Thread Tim Ruehsen
On Monday, July 25, 2016 10:55:45 PM CEST Diederik de Haas wrote:
> On maandag 25 juli 2016 22:08:23 CEST Tim Rühsen wrote:
> > BTW, I can't find such an option at all - maybe just for imap ?
> 
> Probably. I almost exclusively use imap.
> 
> > I really can't believe that this is a personal problem. I am just sitting
> > at a  much newer Sid installation and experience absolutely the same
> > problems. The question is: what did all of you do that I didn't ? And are
> > you sure that indexing and "Tools/Find Messages" really work for you ?
> 
> It's working fine here. I can go to a random mail, copy a word from it and
> put it in the search box and it'll find that mail again.
> Which database backend are you using for akonadi?

It is the mysql backend.
In fact I see (output by akonadi)
Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL"

> I have to admit that akonadi is a difficult beast. But it's not really
> surprising given the number of protocols it needs to support and workaround
> faulty/different implementations of those protocols.
> It can be that if sth didn't work right the first time that it doesn't fix
> things properly afterwards when there were missing packages initially.
> But I have no idea how to properly fix things.
> 
> What you could try is:
> akonadictl fsck
> akonadictl vacuum

Thanks, I am aware of these and executed them like a hundred times. They make 
no difference.

Regards, Tim
 

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