Re: Broken KDE in Sid/Unstable

2021-09-19 Thread piorunz

On 19/09/2021 17:16, Miguel A. Vallejo wrote:

The main drawback I see every time KDE gets updated is that everything
changes. Few weeks ago the main menu changed to a ugly one with too
big icons... and no way to get back the old one. Today the taskbar
reappeared with an "only icons" version. Once I changed the widget to
the traditional one I just have too much text in taskbar items...

KDE is a constant fight between the user keeping things like he wants
and the developers changing everything to a worse / uglier version.


Problems you are describing are happening because you using are Sid.
This is not KDE's fault. Packages in Sid are landing when they are
ready, without checking for dependences, that's how Sid is designed to
be. You are doing full upgrades, which are breaking your system. This is
very often accuring after new stable release, which happened last month.
You don't know how to use Sid properly - you should be using Testing,
not Sid. Next time Sid can pull out half of your system, not just some
KDE packages, because you are full-upgrading without reading.

If you want to stay with Sid, I recommend at least start using backups
and do safe upgrades, not full upgrades, and *read*.

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Re: Broken KDE in Sid/Unstable

2021-09-19 Thread chris
On Sunday, 19 September 2021 16:19:09 CEST bruno zanetti wrote:
> Hi Miguel,
> 
> I assume you are on sid/testing and you did a dist-upgrade (or
> full-upgrade).
> This morning I tried to dist-upgrade sid but I eventually gave up since apt
> asked to remove plasma-desktop and other stuff I didn't think it was good
> to remove.

There is a small difficulty around `libqalculate22`, with `dist-upgrade`. And 
you might have to manually fix it. (It was the 16th, and `dist-upgrade` was 
removing a large part of kde).

I did:
`aptitude full-upgrade libqalculate20-`
and then:
`aptitude full-upgrade`

On `#debian-next`, someone did suggest:
`apt full-upgrade task-kde-desktop plasma-workspace kwin-x11`

(I use wayland, not sure it would have worked).


> Look at the logfiles in /var/log/apt and see if something got removed along
> with the upgrade.
> Just guessing.
> 
> Best
> 
> bz
> 
> 
> 
> Il giorno dom 19 set 2021 alle ore 14:28 Miguel A. Vallejo
> 
> ha scritto:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > This morning an apt update broke my kde. I can log in, but only to get
> > into a black screen with the mouse's cursor, even using a newly created
> > user.
> > 
> > I can't see any obvious error in syslog, but there is something in
> > .xsession-errors :
> > 
> > Kapplymousetheme ("breeze_cursors","24") exited with user code 255
> > 
> > And some lines below a lot of unrecognized keysims from kwin_xkbcommon, a
> > NULL argument for networkIdsList, a failed to parse kaccess.desktop, many
> > other errors ( sorry, I'm typing on phone) until a broken connection to
> > the
> > X11 server brings back the login screen.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.






Re: Broken KDE in Sid/Unstable

2021-09-19 Thread Miguel A. Vallejo
The main drawback I see every time KDE gets updated is that everything
changes. Few weeks ago the main menu changed to a ugly one with too
big icons... and no way to get back the old one. Today the taskbar
reappeared with an "only icons" version. Once I changed the widget to
the traditional one I just have too much text in taskbar items...

KDE is a constant fight between the user keeping things like he wants
and the developers changing everything to a worse / uglier version.



Re: Broken KDE in Sid/Unstable

2021-09-19 Thread Diederik de Haas
On zondag 19 september 2021 17:10:51 CEST Miguel A. Vallejo wrote:
> Removing ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc and relogin
> did the trick, but lost all the personalization.

I've had similar problems a number of times now in the last few weeks.
Lost my task bar a couple of times and last week several widgets on my desktop 
and other icons I had on my desktop got moved around.
So far the problems have not been as severe as you reported.

But I rarely use dist/full-upgrade; (almost) always safe-upgrade.


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Re: Broken KDE in Sid/Unstable

2021-09-19 Thread Miguel A. Vallejo
I didn't notice anything weird, so I went with the upgrade...  I guess
I missed something.

After some time I found some missing packages so I could log in but no
taskbar was visible.

Removing ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc and relogin
did the trick, but lost all the personalization.

Some minutes reconfiguring KDE and everything seems to be Ok again.

Thank you!



Re: Broken KDE in Sid/Unstable

2021-09-19 Thread bruno zanetti
Hi Miguel,

I assume you are on sid/testing and you did a dist-upgrade (or
full-upgrade).
This morning I tried to dist-upgrade sid but I eventually gave up since apt
asked to remove plasma-desktop and other stuff I didn't think it was good
to remove.
Look at the logfiles in /var/log/apt and see if something got removed along
with the upgrade.
Just guessing.

Best

bz



Il giorno dom 19 set 2021 alle ore 14:28 Miguel A. Vallejo 
ha scritto:

> Hi!
>
> This morning an apt update broke my kde. I can log in, but only to get
> into a black screen with the mouse's cursor, even using a newly created
> user.
>
> I can't see any obvious error in syslog, but there is something in
> .xsession-errors :
>
> Kapplymousetheme ("breeze_cursors","24") exited with user code 255
>
> And some lines below a lot of unrecognized keysims from kwin_xkbcommon, a
> NULL argument for networkIdsList, a failed to parse kaccess.desktop, many
> other errors ( sorry, I'm typing on phone) until a broken connection to the
> X11 server brings back the login screen.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>


Broken KDE in Sid/Unstable

2021-09-19 Thread Miguel A. Vallejo
Hi!

This morning an apt update broke my kde. I can log in, but only to get into
a black screen with the mouse's cursor, even using a newly created user.

I can't see any obvious error in syslog, but there is something in
.xsession-errors :

Kapplymousetheme ("breeze_cursors","24") exited with user code 255

And some lines below a lot of unrecognized keysims from kwin_xkbcommon, a
NULL argument for networkIdsList, a failed to parse kaccess.desktop, many
other errors ( sorry, I'm typing on phone) until a broken connection to the
X11 server brings back the login screen.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.