Re: Kadressbook and Google [this is getting OT]

2024-05-08 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2024 09:47:00 -04 Helge Reimer wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2024, 15:40:44 CEST schrieb Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE /
KY4PZ:
> > If anybody - I don't know, but for me: Why schould I knowingly /
> > willingly feed the Data Monster with my address book?
>
> And how else do you sync your contacts between your smartphone and KDE
> for free?
> I'm definitely open to good suggestions.

Hi Helge,

I don't sync. If I did use Google or any other service for that I would
compromise not only my data, which I can control, but also the data of
uncount other people who did not even agree into any sharing or
synching.
I decided to go only one way - from my smartphone to my other devices.
That means I keep my phone addressbook up to date and every other device
is only a slave.
I export the contacts from my phone. Then copy it to my home file server
- from there to each other device as needed and only if needed. Then
importing the contacts into KDE kaddressbook. This is a function of
kdepim and shows up in the Kontakt menu. Also deduplicating contacts is
possible.
If you only need to sync from phone to PC then kdepim has KDE Connect.

Bulk exporting contacts from Google Contacts into vcard (for iOS) and
bulk importing into kaddressbok using KDE Kontact works here. I tested
it before writing this.
That is on Debian Sid with Kontact Version 5.22.3 (22.12.3).

Syncing would be less work once it is set up correctly but setting it up
involving 7 or more different OS for me isn't worth the hassle. I don't
even have KDE on all the other devices - just on my desktop PC and my
laptop.
I used to sync between my phone (Android) and my MACbook Air using a
commercial software. But now the MACbook is old and I did refrain from
purchasing the newest and shinyest from Apple. Instead purchased a
custom made laptop with Linux / KDE and VMs for Win11, Win10 and Debian
Stable and any other OS or distribution I like to try out.

Then there is the calender which I don't sync and do not even copy.
I just use it on my phone. Of course there are backups locally and off
site. If needed, e.g. travelling, I can restore addressbook and calender
from the off site backups which are encrypted. There is other encrypted
data off site which I don't dive into now.

[warning OT rant]
Then there are the Popup Notes of KDE which do not even have a
straightforward backup strategy. Trying to print the notes into PDF is a
real hassle and, at least here, always end up unreadable because of
color choice for characters and background which cannot be controlled in
a logical and straightforward way. One has to wade through the jungle of
KDE files to find the notes. Then copy it. Hey, Android file systems
anyone?!

Then comes [warning OT rant] Firefox - ever tried to move the password
data to another device? I mean without using the sync function of
Firefox? Yes, it is possible but a huge hassle. Try this and try to keep
the password data on the destination device or trying to merge the data
- good luck!
Moving bookmarks and weeding out the duplicates is child's play
comparatively.

No - this is not a recommendation. Just because you asked and it is no
secret.


All the best to you and everybody else
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Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE





Re: Kadressbook and Google

2024-05-08 Thread Helge Reimer
Am Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2024, 16:42:29 CEST schrieb Helge Reimer:

> I just see that the vCards are in /home/$USER/.local/share/kpeoplevcard/
> kdeconnect-UUID/

In short, I have a folder full of vCards, but I am unable to import this 
folder into Kadressbook.
However, individual vCards from this folder can be imported.

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Gruß
Helge




Re: Kadressbook and Google

2024-05-08 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Wednesday, 8 May 2024 16:15:03 CEST Soren Stoutner wrote:
> > And how else do you sync your contacts between your smartphone and KDE for
> > free? I'm definitely open to good suggestions.
> 
> In my case a host a Nextcloud instance.  For Android sync, I use DAVx5.
> 
> https://f-droid.org/en/packages/at.bitfire.davdroid/[1]

Same here, except it's still (a very old) Owncloud here ;-P
But I basically only use it for Contact and Calendar syncing.

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Re: Kadressbook and Google

2024-05-08 Thread Helge Reimer
Am Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2024, 16:28:51 CEST schrieb Helge Reimer:

> And how do I get the contacts into Kadressbook now?

I just see that the vCards are in /home/$USER/.local/share/kpeoplevcard/
kdeconnect-UUID/
However, a new address book as a vCard folder only results in an empty address 
book.

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Gruß
Helge




Re: Kadressbook and Google

2024-05-08 Thread Helge Reimer
Am Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2024, 16:07:54 CEST schrieb Brad Rogers:

> Using google isn't "for free".

It is free of charge.

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Helge




Re: Kadressbook and Google

2024-05-08 Thread Helge Reimer
Am Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2024, 16:04:57 CEST schrieb tv.debian:

> "kdeconnect" [1] (link to the website, but packaged in Debian) works
> great for me, it has an option to sync contacts and much more, but you

I've been using kdeconnect for several years and the module for synchronizing 
contacts is even activated.
And how do I get the contacts into Kadressbook now?

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Gruß
Helge




Re: Kadressbook and Google

2024-05-08 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 08 May 2024 15:47:00 +0200
Helge Reimer  wrote:

Hello Helge,

>And how else do you sync your contacts between your smartphone and KDE
>for free?

Bluetooth, KDEConnect.

Using google isn't "for free".

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Re: Kadressbook and Google

2024-05-08 Thread tv.debian

Le 08/05/2024 à 15:47, Helge Reimer a écrit :

Am Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2024, 15:40:44 CEST schrieb Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ:


If anybody - I don't know, but for me: Why schould I knowingly /
willingly feed the Data Monster with my address book?


And how else do you sync your contacts between your smartphone and KDE for
free?
I'm definitely open to good suggestions.




"kdeconnect" [1] (link to the website, but packaged in Debian) works 
great for me, it has an option to sync contacts and much more, but you 
can choose exactly which fonctions to enable and which permissions to 
grant. Works between Android/Lineage and linux, and despite the name it 
is not restricted to KDE desktop.
Automatic contacts sync is one way AFAIK (phone to PC), but with the 
extra step of exporting it can be shared both ways.


Hope it helps.

[1] https://kdeconnect.kde.org/



Re: Kadressbook and Google

2024-05-08 Thread Helge Reimer
Am Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2024, 15:40:44 CEST schrieb Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ:

> If anybody - I don't know, but for me: Why schould I knowingly /
> willingly feed the Data Monster with my address book?

And how else do you sync your contacts between your smartphone and KDE for 
free?
I'm definitely open to good suggestions.


-- 
Gruß
Helge




Re: Kadressbook and Google

2024-05-08 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2024 09:14:23 -04 Helge Reimer wrote:
> Am Montag, 6. Mai 2024, 16:57:50 CEST schrieb Helge Reimer:
> > What else is currently the best way to use Google Contacts in KDE?
>
> No one uses Google Contacts with KDE?

If anybody - I don't know, but for me: Why schould I knowingly /
willingly feed the Data Monster with my address book?
The Data Monster already gleans so much information off my every single
online activity.
Have a nice day
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Re: Kadressbook and Google

2024-05-08 Thread Helge Reimer
Am Montag, 6. Mai 2024, 16:57:50 CEST schrieb Helge Reimer:

> What else is currently the best way to use Google Contacts in KDE?

No one uses Google Contacts with KDE?

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Helge