Can we lose the 'KDE is cool' blurb, please
Hi, I recently wondered what kooka was and entered 'apt-cache show kooka'. It tells me how cool KDE is, but only at the end do I see what kooka is. Same with all (most?) other KDE packages. Can we lose that 'KDE is cool' blurb in every package description, please (except in the kde metapackage obviously and probably the kdebase/kdelibs packages.) It doesn't add any relevant information and makes it harder to locate the information which I actually want to see. (Or if not, please also add a 'Debian is cool' blurb at the top of every package description ;-) greetings -- vbi (No, I'll not file 264 wishlist bugs now :-) -- featured link: http://www.pool.ntp.org pgp2xJMLatZW2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Playing Shoutcast?
Yo! On my system (KDE-wise mostly unstable, but the problem might well be some library mix-up between KDE 3.2 and 3.3), no application is registered as being able to handle audio/x-scpls. Is there really no KDE application? (And - OT - why doesn't xmms register itself?) Worse: when I manually add xmms as application (with the Add button in the "File Associations" dialog of the KDE control center), and then close control center and re-open it, xmms as registered application has disappeared again. (I *did* hit 'Apply', and it *did* say 'updating system configuration') Adding a KDE application (like, for example, konqueror) as application "works" (except, of course, that konqueror doesn't know what to do.) Any hints? greetings -- vbi -- Oops pgpucp711S2YW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian 3.0r2, KDE (translated)
On Tuesday 09 March 2004 22.34, Frans Pop wrote: > On Tuesday 09 March 2004 22:24, Ben Burton wrote: > > Quite convenient having a Turkish boyfriend. :) > > > > The question seems to be: > > > > "I downloaded 3.0r2 iso files, and wrote it to CDs. KDE doesn't work. > > When I checked MC and /usr/lib icluding libkdeui.so most files are red. > > As far as I understood there is a problem with (dunno how to translate > > "connections"(?) When I upgrade KDE 3.2 it gives kdeinit error. > > > > What shall I do?" > > s/connections/symlinks/ ??? The answer might be: purge all KDE related packages, change the sources.list to sarge, and install KDE 3.1.5 from there. (Upgrading all necessary packages in the process) cheers -- vbi -- featured product: GNU Privacy Guard - http://gnupg.org pgpcFaESCorx6.pgp Description: signature
Re: I miss "Start new session" entry in KDE Menu
On Monday 08 March 2004 17.40, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > Before running KDE 3.2.1/3.2.0 from Debian unstable/experimental I used > 3.2cvs packages built by Christian Muehlhaeuser. > > In KDE Menu I got position "Start new session" which spawn KDM on next > console so I and my girlgfirend both can have own KDE session logged at the > same time. In Debian packages this option is lost ;( Slight topic drift, and the answer is probably 'no' anyway - can the same be achieved with xdm? (I like xdm: I can have the login window black, without a frame or any visible widgets, on a black background, so it looks like I enter the login info directly into the background. Can't do the same with kdm afaik.) cheers -- vbi -- Air conditioned environment - Do not open Windows! pgpPw0rYY4msi.pgp Description: signature
Re: KMail Progress?
On Saturday 21 February 2004 20.04, Robert Tilley wrote: > Versions of KMail prior to version 1.5.4 would display a small progress > indicator in the lower right-hand corner of the main window. This would > indicate the status of the current mail download. > > It is not present in current versions of KMail. Am I mistaken or is there > no way to visibly determine the progress of mail fetch operation? kmail 1.6 (KDE 3.2) shows this progress bar all right, together with an 'abort transaction' button. I'm using IMAP - perhaps this is missing for local and POP accounts? cheers -- vbi -- featured product: SpamAssassin - http://spamassassin.org pgpoyD6nsf4md.pgp Description: signature
kmail - IMAP support regression
Howdy! I'm happily using kmail from the newest KDE 3.2 debs, especially with the 'ignore thread' functionality that allows me to again take Debian list reading from the newsreader to the MUA (and, hence, to IMAP). But kmail's IMAP performance is far worse than before - on folders with 1000 and more messages, checking for new mail takes ages. The progress bar goes slowly from 0 to 99% with full network load (20 seconds or so, 300kbps ADSL), then it inserts the new messages in the folder, then the progress bar goes *back* to 2% and even more slowly again to completion. Aborting this second run does no harm at all, I can then read mail. Other things I've noticed: the 'unread mail' display has some problems. Sometimes, it tells me that there is still unread mail in that folder while there isn't, sometimes it tells me I've read all new mails (and hitting space doesn't go to the next unread message anymore), but there are still unread messages in the folder. Also, the 'ignore thread' flag is not stored in IMAP :-( Is this server-dependant (dovecot here)? Or is it a planned feature (IIRC IMAP does have the possibility to store custom flags). cheers -- vbi -- pub 1024D/92082481 2002-02-22 Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Key fingerprint = EFE3 96F4 18F5 8D65 8494 28FC 1438 5168 9208 2481 pgpnGRa7747vW.pgp Description: signature
kwin (?) has trouble knowing the size of the screen...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yo! apparently, kwin thinks that my screen only starts 32 pixel (or so) from the top of the screen. With magnetic borders, windows moved to the top of the screen don't snap to the edge but to the position 32pixels beneath the top, and when I switch the panel to be at the top edge of the screen, it also goes to a position 32 pixels (one panel width...) from the top. The desktop background nicely fills the whole desktop. This is still the case with current unstable packages, but I suspect it's a buggy conffile somewhere left over from early 3.1 packages. IIRC I never used unofficial 3.1 pkgs, so it would be leftovers from some official ones. cheers - -- vbi - -- featured product: GNU Privacy Guard - http://gnupg.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: get my key from http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/92082481 iKcEARECAGcFAkALpF9gGmh0dHA6Ly9mb3J0eXR3by5jaC9sZWdhbC9ncGcvZW1h aWwuMjAwMjA4MjI/dmVyc2lvbj0xLjUmbWQ1c3VtPTVkZmY4NjhkMTE4NDMyNzYw NzFiMjVlYjcwMDZkYTNlAAoJEIukMYvlp/fWNRUAn1bw+npEBBoE7hQW8HKI1IRD Ihi9AJ0aWu3Ek8XpsDmppcoVj7eZr5tlQQ== =L34F -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Sharing mail in KMail
2003-09-10
Thread
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder (Careful! What I say *might* be a joke.)
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 19:00, Peter Clark wrote: > My wife and I have a 'joint' email account and we would like to both be > able to read it from KMail. What's the best way of setting it up? A Set up an IMAP server and read mail over imap. You can use dovecot, uw-imapd, courier-imapd or cyrus-imapd as imap servers (any others?). uw is the easiest to set up, but is quite awful with system load. I've not tried dovecot but have heard many good things about it. cyrus and courier are a bit more complicated to set up. cheers -- vbi -- featured link: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/subkeys pgpYbRLP3zE2P.pgp Description: signature
Re: Konsole and Unicode
On Thursday 31 July 2003 17:10, Peter Clark wrote: > I'm trying to enable Unicode on my system, but ran into a little trouble > with konsole. I have a file that is UTF-8 encoded, but when I view it with > 'less' in konsole, I see the two-character representation, rather than a > single glyph, even with konsole's font settings set to "Unicode". After several problems with konsole, I've switched to uxterm - I never used multitabbed konsole anyway, so there was no real loss of functionality (ok, it's not transparent anymore, but I'd not call that functionality :^) See the recent thread on debian-devel, subject 'unicode'. -- vbi -- featured link: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/subkeys pgpLimB80PHKt.pgp Description: signature
Re: Konqueror, UTF-8
On Friday 25 July 2003 19:39, Craig Dickson wrote: > http://aletheuo.ath.cx You may want to put a screenshot online somewhere - konqueror 3.1.1-1 with lucida as default font seems to display the greek name just fine. Also, the greek debian.org homepage seems to display fine. Doesn't KDE use its own font renderer? So, despite using the same font in Konqueror and Mozilla, it might be a font or font related problem. Another thing that might serve as a hint to the enlightened: if you copy-paste from the konqueror window to some other unicode-enabled window (kwrite? Mozilla mail composer?) do these chars appesr? so long -- vbi -- this email is protected by a digital signature: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg pgpK6xkWOo8jA.pgp Description: signature
Re: Threading in KMail
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 09:44, Antiphon wrote: > Is it just me or does the message threading in KMail in need of > improvement? It regularly breaks up threads--even ones with the same > subject line. One thing is that kmail does not do threading by Subject (for which I am grateful - half-broken threads with messages being attached to each other in the wrong order is usually the result). The other thing is - and here kmail definitely could use improvement - that kmail appears to ignore the 'References:' header and uses only the 'In-Reply-To:' header. I haven't analyzed it in depth, but I think it also gets confused by the I-R-T headers which also contain the email address of the submitter of the previous message in angle brackets (I think elm produces these). Then, of course, there's still loads of people with plain stupid mail clients that don't generate I-R-T or References headers at all... (Notes, some Microscrap software or other - Thread-Id, gah!) Cheers -- vbi (who is thinking about at least writing a fix-those-headers python script) -- random link of the day: http://fortytwo.ch/sienapei/ohdohghu pgpvmrFNMqGlX.pgp Description: signature
Re: kde 3.1.2 TODO for sarge
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 10:23, Riku Voipio wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 08:45:06AM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > > Is kmail cleared up? There were reports about kmail from kde 3.1.2 having > > problems with IMAP. I didn't test this myself, and I won't upgrade right > > now because I don't want to kill my (now working) setup. > > At a quick glance, there is no RC bug on kmail, and the only important > imap bug (#160189) is for the woody version, and is in fact fixed sid. Thanks for the answers - http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/debian-kde-200306/msg00205.html was the report I had in mind - rereading the thread it is not clear to me what the problem was, exactly, but I guess somebody would have mentioned it if it were a problem in sid or sid/sarge mixed. greetings -- vbi -- No good deed goes unpunished. pgpd3cWnZJU1s.pgp Description: signature
Re: kde 3.1.2 TODO for sarge
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 00:13, Riku Voipio wrote: > Hi, > > I thought I'd put some energy on collecting all into > one place, that needs to be fixed for kde3.1 to enter testing: Is kmail cleared up? There were reports about kmail from kde 3.1.2 having problems with IMAP. I didn't test this myself, and I won't upgrade right now because I don't want to kill my (now working) setup. cheers -- vbi -- Every religion is about absolute belief in its own superiority and the divine right to impose its version of truth upon others. -- Pervez Amir Ali Hoodbhoy, Prospect Magazine Feb 2002 pgp9JDtTrmtEk.pgp Description: signature
Re: Using mutt + kmail
On Monday 30 June 2003 13:42, Alex wrote: > El Viernes, 27 de Junio de 2003 23:29, Bart Dorsey escribió: > > Also, the CVS version of KDE understand PGP/MIME, in fact, the kgpg > > integration in KDE 3.2 (cvs) rocks. > > > Does this means that works _without_ plugins? > No. > I've been trying to build packages for debian woody of the needed > libraries, and other programs, but pinentry-qt was crashing every time, and > I finally decided use inline signing. I guess this is either the gpg-agent-does-not-work-when-compiled-with-threads problem or the qt-devel-packages-in-debian-suck-right-now problem. I just use pinentry-gtk instead of pinentry-qt. Not nice, of course, because of the library dependencies and missing look-and-feel integration, but it works. (Ok, can't speak about woody, I'm running a rather ugly sarge/sid mixture). cheers -- vbi -- A likely impossibility is always preferable to an unconvincing possibility. -- Aristotle pgpmdGeexGudD.pgp Description: signature
kmail and threading (mail header fixup filter)
Hi, I notice that kmail has problems with In-Reply-To: headers that contain things like In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Christian Marillat's message of "Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:20:09 +0200") (instead of rfc2822-compliant msg-id-only in-reply-to headers), and does not thread such messages properly. As a temporary fix (because I'm not ready to hack kmail): has anybody already written a filter for incoming mail that would strip everything but the message id from this mail header? I would hook such a beast into procmail and thus get rid of this particular problem. Should be easy with formail and sed, or with a bit of perl, but if somebody else already has this, it's even easier... cheers -- vbi -- featured link: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/subkeys pgphk14GPFYvZ.pgp Description: signature
Re: Clarification on just what the kde metapackages are (was: kdeprint depends on efax)
On Friday 23 May 2003 11:22, David Goodenough wrote: > As an aside it is a shame that Debian does not have the concept of a > removal meta-package. [...] > The alternative would be an option on apt-get remove which said to go down > the tree and remove everything that this depends on that nothing else > depends on (and is not essential). But that could do too deep down the > tree. apt-get remove xxx, followed by 'orphaner -a' has always taken care of this problem for me. -- vbi -- Truly great madness can not be achieved without significant intelligence. -- Henrik Tikkanen pgpOKO9ltYcwK.pgp Description: signature
Re: Aegypten for sid's KMail?
On Thursday 22 May 2003 20:01, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > that starts the right one. But gpg-agent refuses to start! Or better is > acts as if it starts but when looking for it with "ps ax", it's not there > :( ... and gpg --server sh (or similar commands) segfault immediately. I had the same problem. I now have cryptplug-0.3.16 gpgme-0.3.15 libksba-0.4.7 from tarballs and newpg cvs from 2002-11-23 (-d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/aegypten) pinentry cvs from 2003-04-23 (same cvsroot) with gcc 3:3.2.3-1, gcc-3.2 1:3.2.3-0pre9 and libc6 2.3.1-16 Works for me. I didn't investigate what the exact problem was. I especially did not try if going back to the Debian packaged gpgme version works. Could be a gcc 3.2 or libc6 problem, perhaps? greets & HTH -- vbi -- featured product: GNU Privacy Guard - http://gnupg.org pgp5Kw7NtKE9y.pgp Description: signature
Re: kmail cc and bcc not working
On Tuesday 08 April 2003 19:37, Marc Tinnemeyer wrote: > So my question is, has anybody here every experienced sth. like that, or > is there a way to check what kmail is doing with CC and BCC ? Works fine here. I guess it's probably some bad interaction between kmail and the outgoing mail transport. What outgoing mail transport are you using? If you use the local sendmail, you should have the log in /var/log/mail.log. cheers -- vbi -- random link of the day: http://fortytwo.ch/sienapei/shouhaer pgpcHmJcx7xRg.pgp Description: signature
Re: kmail & cryptplug anyone?
On Tuesday 08 April 2003 10:34, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 10:13:00AM +0200, Mika Fischer wrote: > > On Tuesday 08 April 2003 09:37, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder > > > > wrote: > > > - > > > Message was signed by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Key ID: > > > 0x50DF199327BB42F0). Warning: The signature is bad. > > > - > > > > Yeah, the second message got messed up by postfix on my side. > > I therefore replaced it with exim4 :) > > > > Postfix messed with the headers of the MIME parts. But only for signed > > messages with signed attachments... > > I've never seen that in 2+ years of using Postfix at home and at work, > and sending virtually every message signed. dito. If the bozo is identified and it's postfix, I recommend you take it up with either the postfix Debian maintainer (whom I don't know) or the postfix users or developers list (which, in my experience, are a bunch of friendly people). Of course, this could be a FAQ, too, though I never heard of the problem so far. cheers -- vbi -- random link of the day: http://fortytwo.ch/sienapei/zuhiuche pgp260L3VPcqq.pgp Description: signature
Re: kmail & cryptplug anyone?
- Message was signed by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Key ID: 0x50DF199327BB42F0). Warning: The signature is bad. - kmail on sid with Ralfs cryptplug... woody packages - so it might be a problem from there. Or is it a genuine problem with kmail? Or has the message been modified by my system? Or by the Debian system? Or by the sending system? cheers -- vbi -- pub 1024D/92082481 2002-02-22 Adrian von Bidder Key fingerprint = EFE3 96F4 18F5 8D65 8494 28FC 1438 5168 9208 2481 pgpivmQaL0Y7m.pgp Description: signature
Re: Kmail (review and feature wishes)
On Friday 04 April 2003 19:09, David Bishop wrote: > On Friday 04 April 2003 08:17 am, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > > Yo! > > > > Posted here since I guess some of the kde upstream folks read this list, > > too. Many of these probably covered somewhere else, too, so please > > forgive me. > > A good place for these is bugs.kde.org, as I know for a fact that the main > KMail developers (Don, Ingo, Marc) don't read this list. You will also > find out that (as you suspected) most of these have been noticed by other > people, so you can 'vote' for your most pressing wishlist item or bugfix > (rather than creating dupe bug reports, which will just be closed). Lazyness on my part, combined with the fact that I really don't like web based bug trackers, and I like the more direct interaction of a mailing list. > > Why can the composer not remember that I want it to display the message > > in fixed font? (I assume this is already being corrected in upstream) > > I don't really know what you're talking about here. It remembers whatever > font I set it to in the 'Appearance'. Are you sure you mean composer? Well, dunno what in KDE-slang is named how. I mean the window where I compose a mail. The setting of the 'View -> Use fixed font' menu entry should be remembered. For displaying mail, I can set fixed font to be used by default just fine. And when I check the 'Use fixed font' in the composer, it shows fixed with or without using custom fonts. (This one is probably workaround-able by defining the proportional font the same as the fixed font. > > A small bug (I doubt I'm the first to notice this, either): quoted text > > is shown in a bigger font than unquoted text. Screenshot (what's a small > > kde app for taking them?) at > > http://fortytwo.ch/~avbidder/kmail-quoting.png (Oh, yes: I'm *not* using > > custom fonts, but the fonts of the global KDE config). > > Well, you would need to have custom fonts to make composer use a fixed font > (iirc). But this seems much more like a X server/font issue than KMail. This one is mail display, not composer. The above was composer. > > > Does kmail support a 'display deleted messages as strike-through' mode? > > Problem: in mailing list folders, while scanning the subject lines, I > > delete messages much faster than kmail can update the display (I'm using > > IMAP over an 256/64 connection, so fetching the next message takes its > > time). Deleting articles that fast does weird things, including making > > kmail crash occasionally (this could also be related because displaying a > > message takes its time whin kmail is autoverificating a gpg signature). > > No, it doesn't. I tend to use a click/shift-click to select a bunch of > messages, then delete them all at once. IMAP is one of the places that > KMail has lagged, but it is also one of the places that it has gotten > better by leaps and bounds with each release. Then I'll be looking forward how this develops. > > Likely to be a misconfiguration or missing software package: it doesn't > > display attachments (simple ones, like jpgs etc.) inline. Wishlist > > (that's not in kmail, though, as far as I understand): a [ ] do not ask > > for this MIME type again check box when launching an application to view > > an attachment. > > I get inline display of jpegs. Maybe it uses kview? Sorry, don't know. A > 'don't ask again' has been implemented in HEAD, iirc. I was confused by the fact that kmail launches an external viewer for non-inlined jpegs instead of using the internal viewer. 'real' inlined jpegs (content-disposition: inline) display just fine. > > Matter of taste: I don't like that kmail opens a new window for the > > source view of the mail. For keyboard reading, switching to source view > > and back could be easy with a single key stroke. > > If you do a lot of keyboard reading, you can bind 'view source' to a key, > and just use alt-f4 when done. Not what you were asking for, but better > than a lot of mousing. Problem is the window focus jumping around because I like focus under mouse. (Oh, yes, windowmanager question: is there a 'new window has focus, regardless of mouse position' function in KDE?) > > kmail <-> kaddressbook integration: > > [ ] this person prefers HTML mail > > [ ] this person prefers encrypted mail > > [ ] don't sign mail to this person > > (or even Use ( ) PGP/MIME ( ) inline PGP ( ) S/MIME .. to sign email for > > this person, but that's probably too fiddly). > > This i
Re: Kmail (review and feature wishes)
On Friday 04 April 2003 18:39, Ralf Nolden wrote: > On Friday 04 April 2003 17:17, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > > Yo! > > > > Posted here since I guess some of the kde upstream folks read this list, > > too. Many of these probably covered somewhere else, too, so please > > forgive me. > > Wrong mailinglist :-) Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) I try to avoid posting to mailing lists I don't read, usually. cheers -- vbi -- this email is protected by a digital signature: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg pgpstT3g08aKM.pgp Description: signature
Kmail (review and feature wishes)
Yo! Posted here since I guess some of the kde upstream folks read this list, too. Many of these probably covered somewhere else, too, so please forgive me. Several things have made me switch from gnome to KDE, so I've installed various things and am now relatively happy. For one thing, konqueror appears much faster than galeon, so that alone is something... I was using evolution unitl now, and have now switched to kmail, here my first comments: (Oh, yes: kmail 1.5.1, with the PGP/MIME plugin (but you saw that) - thanks to Ralf for providing the debs, the woody debs run just fine on my mixed sarge/sid system). Why can the composer not remember that I want it to display the message in fixed font? (I assume this is already being corrected in upstream) A small bug (I doubt I'm the first to notice this, either): quoted text is shown in a bigger font than unquoted text. Screenshot (what's a small kde app for taking them?) at http://fortytwo.ch/~avbidder/kmail-quoting.png (Oh, yes: I'm *not* using custom fonts, but the fonts of the global KDE config). Does kmail support a 'display deleted messages as strike-through' mode? Problem: in mailing list folders, while scanning the subject lines, I delete messages much faster than kmail can update the display (I'm using IMAP over an 256/64 connection, so fetching the next message takes its time). Deleting articles that fast does weird things, including making kmail crash occasionally (this could also be related because displaying a message takes its time whin kmail is autoverificating a gpg signature). Wishlist feature: newsreader-like 'ignore thread' functionality. Likely to be a misconfiguration or missing software package: it doesn't display attachments (simple ones, like jpgs etc.) inline. Wishlist (that's not in kmail, though, as far as I understand): a [ ] do not ask for this MIME type again check box when launching an application to view an attachment. Matter of taste: I don't like that kmail opens a new window for the source view of the mail. For keyboard reading, switching to source view and back could be easy with a single key stroke. Evo remembers sort order and the displayed columns in the header view (and their width and order) on a per folder basis. One thing I'm really gonna miss. kmail <-> kaddressbook integration: [ ] this person prefers HTML mail [ ] this person prefers encrypted mail [ ] don't sign mail to this person (or even Use ( ) PGP/MIME ( ) inline PGP ( ) S/MIME .. to sign email for this person, but that's probably too fiddly). What I like: the configurable keyboard shortcuts, the good GPG integration, the good handling of the spacebar. -- get my gpg key here: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/92082481 pgpOgDJerOdtK.pgp Description: signature
Re: 178 days and counting
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 20:01, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > BTW: I don't understand why most unstable packages are not in unstable > anymore. KDE3.x ist left out because of gcc3.2, although it does not make > much sense: if it breaks on transistion to gcc3.2- well, it's unstable. Same > with XFree4.2. What's the difference to make the gcc change with or without > KDE3 in unstable? It compiles with gcc2.95 and troubles with gcc3.2 are > expected anyway. > Sorry, but it does not make much sense to me at all. This is no matter to me > though because I track testing and not unstable. But current behaviour makes > unstable rather pointless. The problem is that developers (I mean Debian Developers mostly) actually use unstable for their work. Having unstable packages to work with is ok for most packages, but when core things like XFree, gnome, kde ... are *really* unstable in unstable, people will get annoyed. Yes, unstable is unstable, and developers expect brokenness here and there. But it's a question of magnitude. And: a big update requires a transistion plan to avoid stupid mistakes - and working out a transition plan that works is not easy and takes time, too. cheers -- vbi -- secure email with gpg http://fortytwo.ch/gpg NOTICE: subkey signature! request key 92082481 from keyserver.kjsl.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: 178 days and counting
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 19:58, scooter wrote: > what happens on a Debian system when you compile from source? I have run in > succession 3.0 alpha, 3.0beta, 3.1 alpha and now 3.1beta (or for you purests > 3.0.7) All built from tarballs on the dread RH. I have never had the > slightest difficulty with KDE on RH unless it was something of my own doing > but for reasons I will not go into on this list, I am switching to Debian. > Since I am a gnome blows kinda guy and require, no insist that I have KDE and > in the 3.0 family running on debian woody. I have no experience with .deb or > any other debian tools. never liked RPMs for that matter and have always > built my packages from source. > What say you fellows? source? will there be issues? No more than on any other system, I guess. Just make sure you never have something installed *both* as a .deb package and as self compiled. (But that's the same as with rpm systems). Use apt-get to grab anything you don't want to compile, then go from there. One thing to pay attention: the default compiler on most Debian platforms is gcc-2.9x, so gcc-3.2 might not be installed (iirc kde did have some problems with earlier compilers). Not sure if the gcc from woody is recent enough to support the newest kde betas - you may want to have a mixed woody/sarge system (read 'man apt_preferences'). cheers -- vbi -- secure email with gpg http://fortytwo.ch/gpg NOTICE: subkey signature! request key 92082481 from keyserver.kjsl.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: ugle background when starting kdm
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 22:04, Bastiaan Naber wrote: > > The reason it shows the dots for so long is b/c your computer is slow. The > > faster the computer, the less time to see ugliness. If you get a fast > > enough computer, you won't see it anymore. So spring the $300 for a new > > computer. Also, if you spend $200 more and get a smokin' graphics card, I > > can guarantee that this will go away. > > > > Finally linux is compeditive w/ windows. We can solve all yer problems if > > you spend enough money. :) > > > Sorry but I have a amd athlon XP 2000+ and a geforce graphics card and > still the dots appear long enough to make my head hurt. I don't think spending > more money will make the dotted background go away Go fetch a beer every time you start X. HTH & cheers -- vbi -- secure email with gpg http://fortytwo.ch/gpg NOTICE: subkey signature! request key 92082481 from keyserver.kjsl.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: KDE3.1 beta, kmail: no imap?
On Mon, 2002-09-02 at 12:52, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > måndagen den 2 september 2002 12.03 skrev Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von > Bidder: > > Yo! > > > > kmail can not start the kioslave? > > > > === > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] avbidder]$ kmail > > kmail: KMKernel::openReader called > > kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Found version 49, expecting version 59 or > > higher. > > kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Outdated database found > > You have a mixture of old and new KDE. Check all KDE components on your > computer, and see to that they are all the same version. Sometimes some piece > of KDE from some old version is hanging around, since even the official > debian KDE versions were not always very good at removing old components. > > I am not sure which component is wrong here. Kmail is particularly picky in > needing the same version of kdelibs and kdebase. I guess it should have a > dependency for that, if I could ever figure out exactly what it needs > kioslave definitively. Probably also kdelibs4-bin it appears like. kdelibs4-bin was the problem (kmail started after I updated this), and apparently also libkonq4 (the version warning went away after I deleted this). But I can't view my INBOX (other folders work). And the threading problems are still not solved. Also, I'm not too sure if I like the UI on gpg messages, so I think I'll wait a few versions until trying again. Thanks for the help, though. cheers -- vbi -- secure email with gpghttp://fortytwo.ch/gpg NOTICE: keyserver.kjsl.com is known to carry a valid copy of my key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
KDE3.1 beta, kmail: no imap?
Yo! kmail can not start the kioslave? === [EMAIL PROTECTED] avbidder]$ kmail kmail: KMKernel::openReader called kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Found version 49, expecting version 59 or higher. kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Outdated database found === this may be related. Dunno. Later: == kmail: ERROR: ERROR 3: couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'imap'. == with a dialog box coming up. OKing the box shows the same message again. ii kmail 3.0.7.cvs20020824-1 ii kioslave 3.0.7.cvs20020824-1 Don't know anything about KDE. I won't install/uninstall KDE pkgs for now, so just say if you need more information. BTW: last time I tried kmail, it did not thread messages properly (I haven't analyzed it, but I guess it doesn't do threading by Subject, and it only recognizes half of the possible headers.) Meaning that many replies were shown as a new thread. Is this fixed? If not I needn't even bother to try. cheers -- vbi -- secure email with gpghttp://fortytwo.ch/gpg NOTICE: keyserver.kjsl.com is known to carry a valid copy of my key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Fonts are a big concern for Debian, IMHO
On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 14:07, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > Perhaps cyrillic > > and greek could be omitted at first, but it should be a goal. > > Perhaps latin and german could be omitted at first, but it should be a goal. Yo! I would not object if a free font starts out with greek or cyrillic letters, and other charsets added later. I would not object if some font starts out as a ascii font with umlauts added later. Right now Debian is not able to pick and chose from a vast number of free high quality fonts, so denying inclusion of a font on the grounds of incompletenes would be foolish (and there is not one complete font in Debian right now. Unicode is quite huge... Assuming that Unicode is accepted as 'complete' - I think this would be open to discussion, too. And assuming the Software could even deal with proper unicode, which most of todays software cannot - combining characters and bidi...) cheers -- vbi -- secure email with gpg http://fortytwo.ch/gpg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Fonts are a big concern for Debian, IMHO
On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 10:35, Jarno Elonen wrote: > + has scandinavian and french characters, euro sign, mathematical >characters etc. MES-2 was mentioned. I think this would be a good goal. Perhaps cyrillic and greek could be omitted at first, but it should be a goal. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/mes-2-rationale.html cheers -- vbi -- secure email with gpg http://fortytwo.ch/gpg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: kmail "no valid and trusted" error
On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 16:57, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: > I'm using kmail from kde3 and gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.7 and am getting an error > saying "no valid and trusted" openpgp keys found whenever I try to > encrypt to someone who is on my keyring. > > When I try to send the e-mail, what I get is a "encryption key selection > - kmail" window that pops up. I can see all users on my public keyring, > but they all have yellow question marks next to the key id, and I'm > unable to select any of them and click "ok". In other words, while I > can highlight the user I want to encrypt to, the "ok" button stays > disabled. Why encrypt if you don't know if the key in question belongs to the intended recipient? If you know you can trust the key, sign it. If you *have* signed the keys and still get the problem: older versions og gpg (1.0.6 and earlier) have always implicitly trusted any key with an available secret key. With gpg 1.0.7 you have to gpg --edit your own keys and set 'trust' to 'ultimate'. (Don't ask me why the behaviour was changed, though.) always-trust is BAD - it undermines the whole idea of gpg key signatures. If you want to encrypt to somebody but not upload a signature, sign it locally (iirc: --lsign) cheers -- vbi -- secure email with gpg[EMAIL PROTECTED]: key id 0x92082481 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:key id 0x5E4B731F signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: KDE3.x and SID
On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 20:48, Wolfgang Ratzka wrote: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2002/debian-kde-200205/msg00186.html Great - just come on the list and find this... Some dependency still missing? I usually run gnome (no flames, plz), but as I heard kmail is quite good I wanted to give it a try. apt-get install kmail - this works fine. Installs libasound2 0.9.0rc1-1 [197kB] libarts1 1.0.1-0.1 [675kB] liblcms1 1.08-4 [70.5kB] libmng1 1.0.3-4 [111kB] libqt3 2:3.0.3-20020329-6 [2644kB] libqt3-mt 2:3.0.3-20020329-6 [2803kB] libarts1-qt 1.0.1-0.1 [31.3kB] kdelibs4 4:3.0.1-0.1 [5452kB] libkdenetwork2 4:3.0.1-0.1 [215kB] libmimelib1 4:3.0.1-0.1 [72.2kB] kmail 4:3.0.1-0.1 [927kB] But [EMAIL PROTECTED] avbidder]$ kmail ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication. ?? Which package do I need? kdelibs4-bin (and -data) do the trick. Ok. Add dependency? cheers -- vbi -- secure email with gpg[EMAIL PROTECTED]: key id 0x92082481 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:key id 0x5E4B731F signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
