Bug#784454: [calligra] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: calligra
Version: 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
on behalf of the Qt4 maintainers


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Bug#784479: [kde4libs] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: kde4libs
Version: 4:4.14.2-5
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
on behalf of the Qt4 maintainers


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Bug#784480: [kdepim] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: kdepim
Version: 4:4.14.2-2
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
on behalf of the Qt4 maintainers


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Bug#784483: [kdevelop] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: kdevelop
Version: 4:4.7.0-1
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
on behalf of the Qt4 maintainers


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Bug#784482: [kdeplasma-addons] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: kdeplasma-addons
Version: 4:4.14.2-1
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian/Ubuntu Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
on behalf of the Qt4 maintainers


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Bug#784481: [kdepim-runtime] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: kdepim-runtime
Version: 4:4.14.2-3
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
on behalf of the Qt4 maintainers


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Bug#784477: [kde-runtime] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: kde-runtime
Version: 4:4.14.2-2
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
on behalf of the Qt4 maintainers


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Bug#784474: [kalgebra] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: kalgebra
Version: 4:4.14.2-1
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
on behalf of the Qt4 maintainers


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Bug#784478: [kde-workspace] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: kde-workspace
Version: 4:4.11.13-2
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
on behalf of the Qt4 maintainers


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Bug#784491: [libkgapi] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: libkgapi
Version: 2.2.0-1
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Debian/Ubuntu Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
on behalf of the Qt4 maintainers


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Bug#784484: [kdevplatform] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: kdevplatform
Version: 1.7.0-2
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
on behalf of the Qt4 maintainers


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Bug#784492: [marble] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: marble
Version: 4:4.14.2-1
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

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Bug#784485: [kdevelop-php-docs] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: kdevelop-php-docs
Version: 1.7.0-1
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
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Bug#784511: [pykde4] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: pykde4
Version: 4:4.14.0-1
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
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Bug#784516: [qmf] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: qmf
Version: 1.0.7~2011w23.2-2.1
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
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Bug#784517: [qtruby] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: qtruby
Version: 4:4.11.3-4.1
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
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Bug#784528: [smokeqt] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: smokeqt
Version: 4:4.12.2-2
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
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Bug#784522: [qzion] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: qzion
Version: 0.4.0+lgpl-4
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Krap Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
on behalf of the Qt4 maintainers


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Bug#784525: [rocs] Qt4's WebKit removal

2015-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Source: rocs
Version: 4:4.14.2-1
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt4webkit-removal

Dear Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org,

As you might know we the Qt/KDE team are preparing to remove Qt4's WebKit
as announced in [announce].

[announce] 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/05/msg1.html

Basically we are about to get the latest Qt4 point release and upstream is
migrating from WebKit to Bing in the Qt5 series, so we won't have much upstream
support for maintaining Qt4's WebKit.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
the Qt4's WebKit library have to either get ported to Qt5 or eventually get
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a Qt5
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a Qt5 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the Qt4 and the Qt5 versions already coexist in the Debian
archives, consider removing the Qt4 version

= Porting =

Some of us where involved in various Qt4 to Qt5 migrations [migration] and we
know for sure that porting stuff from Qt4 to Qt5 is much much easier and less
painful than it was from Qt3 to Qt4.

We also understand that there is still a lot of software still using Qt4. In
order to ease the transition time we have provided Wheezy backports for Qt5.

Don't forget to take a look at the C++ API changes page [apichanges] whenever
you start porting your application.

[migration] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/packagingqtstuff.html
[apichanges] http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/sourcebreaks.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Ana,
on behalf of the Qt4 maintainers


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Re: qt3 and ptrdiff_t build error

2013-01-15 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:12:51PM +, Tiana Rakotovao Andriamahefa wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The build of an application using qt3 always fails into this
 kind of error (with GCC-4.6) :
 
 In file included from /usr/include/qt3/qmime.h:46:0,
  from /usr/include/qt3/qevent.h:48,
  from /usr/include/qt3/qobject.h:48,
  from /usr/include/qt3/qwidget.h:46,
  from /usr/include/qt3/qmainwindow.h:45,
  from main.cc:9:
 /usr/include/qt3/qmap.h:607:13: error: ‘ptrdiff_t’ does not name a type
 make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/qconf.o] Erreur 1
 make: *** [xconfig] Erreur 2
 
 
 And including stddef.h resolves well this problem.
 
 So, I would like to ask you if qt3 is still maintained so that it is
 for example possible to add  include stddef.h  in some qt3 headers?
 Or should stddef.h always be included by our program.

Hi Tiana,

Qt3 is not maintained anymore in Debian. Last stable version of Debian
shipping Qt3 is Squeeze with GCC 4.4.
IIRC the problem you reported was fixed in one of the uploads of Qt3 made
after the release of Squeeze, if you grab the latest upload of Qt3 from
http://snapshot.debian.org it is possible this problem is fixed there.

Ana


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Bug#678210: RM: qt-x11-free -- RoQA; obsolete libraries, dead upstream, superseeded by Qt4

2012-06-19 Thread Ana Guerrero
Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: normal

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Bug#673464: RM: koffice -- ROM; dead-upstream, superseeded by Calligra

2012-05-18 Thread Ana Guerrero
Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: normal

Please, remove koffice from the archive. The development of KOffice
is almost dead since most of the development team moved efforts
to Calligra. 
For casual readers of this bug: note that Calligra is still not in 
the Debian archive and might not to make it into wheezy. But KOffice
is not in a good state to be allowed into Wheezy.

Thanks,
Ana



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Bug#673466: RM: koffice-l10n -- ROM; should be removed with koffice

2012-05-18 Thread Ana Guerrero
Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: normal

Please removed koffice-l10n together with the removal of koffice (#673464)

Thanks,
Ana



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Bug#663511: RM: kaboom -- ROM; obsolete, not longer needed

2012-03-11 Thread Ana Guerrero
Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: normal

Please, remove kaboom. It is a settings migration wizard used
from KDE 3 to KDE 4 and it shouldn't be shipped with wheezy.

Thanks,
Ana



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Bug#651825: Recommends a package that is not in the Debian archive

2011-12-12 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 01:46:28PM +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
 I am also wondering how useful is to keep this package around without sagemath
 in the Debian archive?

If sagemath is installed manually, the path to the manual installation
can be provided in the settings inside cantor and the backend would
work. So this bug probably could be solved adding a bit in the description 
warning the users they will need to install sagemath manually and adding
more complete instructions about how to set the path in the README.Debian.

About the Recommends: sagemath, I think it is better to remove it directly
instead of a demote to Suggests since the part about sagemath would be
already documented in the description and if we want to use properly 
recommends/suggests/depends, cantor-backend-sage needs a depende in
sagemath




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Bug#556686: quick update

2011-09-11 Thread Ana Guerrero

Hi,
Do not bother about fixing this bug, the short-term plan is removing
libwv from Debian.

Ana



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Re: Qt3 looking for adopters

2011-05-04 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 04:36:05PM +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote:
  On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote:
  
  It has 21 bugs. The important point here is you would become also 
  *upstream*.
 
 No they are trinirty qt3 :)


I do not know if you have realized that trinity is about KDE 3 and they 
have hope of migrating it to Qt 4 ...


 Could you offer me sponsorship ?


I am not going to sponsor something that I think should be removed from Debian
...

Ana


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Bug#625502: O: qt-x11-free -- Qt GUI Library

2011-05-03 Thread Ana Guerrero
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal


kdelibs3 was removed recently from the archive and the last tiny bit
of KDE 3 remaining, aRts, will be removed quite soon.

This means the KDE team is not longer interested in Qt3 and we are looking 
for new maintainer(s). 

More information at:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/05/msg00056.html

Adopting Qt3 require skills and time since you would have to do the upstream
work. Consider carefully this before adopting Qt3.

Ana



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Re: Qt3 looking for adopters (orphaned now)

2011-05-03 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 07:56:26PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 kdelibs3 was removed recently from the archive and the last tiny bit
 of KDE 3 remaining, aRts, will be removed quite soon.
 
 This means the KDE team is not longer interested in Qt3 and we are looking 
 for new maintainer(s). 
 
 Personally, I would have gone for removing Qt3 too but the following concerns
 have been raised:
 
 - latest LSB 4.1 still needs Qt3
 - some software using Qt3 do not have any replacement (twinkle has mentioned
   for several users). There is a list of packages using Qt 3 at [1] and 
   even if Qt3 is kept in the archive, I am planning to do a QA round of all
   the packages using Qt3.
 - there seem to be a lot of people using their Qt 3 software and Debian in 
   scientific environments.
 
 Qt 3 was EOL'ed in July 2007 [2], so if you decide to adopt Qt 3 you won't
 have any support by upstream. Also, if you adopt the package, please 
 coordinate with the KDE team so we can push some final changes.
 
 If there are no adopters in the next 3 weeks, I will do an orphaning upload 
 (and file the O: bug) with the changes mentioned earlier.

Change of plans. Due the switch to GCC 4.6, 48 packages using Qt 3 failed to 
build
from source. This was already reported against Qt3 with a patch, see bug report 
#611255 (Thanks Riddell!) and Modestas did a quick upload fixing the issue
plus the other final issues we wanted to address. See changelog [1]

We took advantage of the upload to also orphan Qt3. Orphaning bug is #625502.

If you want Qt3 is wheezy (or any of the packages that need Qt3), please, step
up soon.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2011/05/msg00294.html

Ana


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Qt3 looking for adopters

2011-05-01 Thread Ana Guerrero

Hi,

kdelibs3 was removed recently from the archive and the last tiny bit
of KDE 3 remaining, aRts, will be removed quite soon.

This means the KDE team is not longer interested in Qt3 and we are looking 
for new maintainer(s). 

Personally, I would have gone for removing Qt3 too but the following concerns
have been raised:

- latest LSB 4.1 still needs Qt3
- some software using Qt3 do not have any replacement (twinkle has mentioned
  for several users). There is a list of packages using Qt 3 at [1] and 
  even if Qt3 is kept in the archive, I am planning to do a QA round of all
  the packages using Qt3.
- there seem to be a lot of people using their Qt 3 software and Debian in 
  scientific environments.

Qt 3 was EOL'ed in July 2007 [2], so if you decide to adopt Qt 3 you won't
have any support by upstream. Also, if you adopt the package, please 
coordinate with the KDE team so we can push some final changes.

If there are no adopters in the next 3 weeks, I will do an orphaning upload 
(and file the O: bug) with the changes mentioned earlier.

Ana
PS: cc'me in replies

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/qt3-x11-freeRemoval
[2] http://qt.nokia.com/about/news/archive/press.2007-01-22.4604809587/)



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Bug#620576: kdelibs: please wipe out dependency_libs from .la files (Policy 10.2)

2011-04-02 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 02:43:43PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
 Package: kdelibs
 Version: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-5
 Severity: normal
 Tags: patch
 User: ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com
 Usertags: origin-ubuntu natty ubuntu-patch
 
 Hi folks,
 
 The attached patch has just been applied to the Ubuntu kdelibs package, to
 null out the dependency_libs field in the libtool .la file being shipped in
 the -dev package.  This is generally a good idea because it avoids causing
 consumers of your library to require other .la files listed here to be
 available at build time when they're not actually needed (i.e., in the
 dynamic linking common case).  It's specifically a good idea right now
 because multiarch is imminent, and that means the .la files referenced here
 are going to *move* soon, causing build failures for anything using libtool
 to build against kdelibs.  As long as kdelibs is going to need a rebuild to
 fix up the invalid .la references, it would be nice to get rid of them
 altogether.
 
 (Alternatively, since I guess kde3 libs are supposed to be dropped soon, you
 might just let this go unfixed and become a FTBFS for reverse-deps?  Your

See #619728. Celestia NMU is entering in 3 days, and I filed removals
today for the other 2 blocking packages :-)

Ana




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Re: KDE-SC 4.6.x?

2011-04-01 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 03:03:07PM +0200, Sedat Dilek wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am just curious where the development and discussion to KDE-SC 4.6.x
 is happening.


Look in http://git.debian.org for pkg-kde repositories.
e.g.: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-kde/kde-sc/kde4libs.git;a=summary

Ana


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Re: contribution to koffice packaging

2011-03-30 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 03:12:08PM +0200, Adrien wrote:
 En cette agréable journée du dimanche 27 mars 2011,
 Ana Guerrero a écrit :
 
  Hi Adrien, I am sorry I did not answer you before, I do not read this list
  very often.
  
  As you might know, koffice is not going to be around a lot of time longer
  in Debian and it is going to be replaced by Calligra. If you want to help,
  a needed task is looking at all the pending bugs and:
  - checking what are fixed in Calligra (action: mark them with a user-tag)
  - what bugs do not apply anymore (action: close them)
  - what bugs should be forwarded to upstream.(action you forward them
  to kde bugzilla [1] [2]
 
 ok so I start with this work. If I am doing wrong, just let me know ;-)


So far, it is good, but you need to Cc' the reported of the bug or they
won't get any email. Submitters do not get subscribed to bugs automatically:/

Ana


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Bug#619728: RM: kdelibs -- ROM; obsolete

2011-03-26 Thread Ana Guerrero
Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: normal

Please remove kdelibs from the archive. Squeeze shipped with KDE 4 
as default KDE desktop and it still included kdelibs from KDE 3 
for transitioning. The KDE team does not want to keep KDE 3 
libraries for Wheezy.

Most of the rdepends has been already removed from Debian and others
are filed waiting to be removed. There are some packages that have
a replacement or they are waiting for a upload to remove the 
kde3 support, I will add the blocking bugs for those.

Ana



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Bug#619729: RM: arts -- ROM; obsolete

2011-03-26 Thread Ana Guerrero
Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: normal

arts provided the sound system to the now obsolete
KDE 3. Please remove it!



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Re: eigen3 packages

2011-03-25 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:26:13PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer 
wrote:
 On Thursday 24 March 2011 15:50:48 Anton Gladky wrote:
  Dear QT and KDE maintainers,
  
  I have prepared the package for the new release 3.0 of mathematical
  library eigen.
  I have based it on the previous eigen2 release. What has been done:
  
* Switch to dpkg-source 3.0 (quilt) format
* DEP-5 for copyright file
* Added watch file
* Added doc-base file
* Added upstream Changelog file from their website
  
  lintian -IE --pedantic gives warnings on absent ITP-bug (I will add
  this bug, when somebody will review this package),
  and one warning about .hg-files in the source tarball.
  
  I would be glad if somebody review and upload the package:
 
 Hi Anton! As far as I understand, eigen is maintained under the Qt/KDE team 
 umbrella. Would you like to join us maintaining this package?
 
 If so, please read http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org and join us on IRC, 
 #debian-qt-kde on OFTC.


anton, as said this morning in IRC, please go to
https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-kde/
and Request to join (you will need to create an alioth account.


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plans for ggz-kde-* packages?

2011-02-27 Thread Ana Guerrero

Hi!

What are you plans for ggz-kde-client and ggz-kde-games? You probably
have read already the bugs filed by Eckhart Wörner about the removal
of the KDE3 libraries filed some months ago.

There are a KDE4 port coming soon or should be removed?

Ana


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Re: kde-extras packages using kdelibs4c2a

2011-02-27 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 08:03:30AM +, Fathi Boudra wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote:
  * kasablanca
  * kbarcode
 
 There's a port in progress but it's stuck since a year:
 http://gitorious.org/kbarcode-kde4

I am going to file removal from them. If the ports are finished in the
future, we can reintroduce them in the archive.

  * keep
  * kfocus
  * klibido
  * kmobiletools
  * kpogre
  * ksniffer
  * kvdr
  * lensfun
  * libkipi
  * taskjuggler
 
  None of them seem to have a working KDE 4 port (except taskjuggler having
  something in ruby...). I guess we can go ahead and file them all
  for removal?
 
 +1

Except for lensfun, I filed the removal for all of those.

Ana


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Re: plans for ggz-kde-* packages?

2011-02-27 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 03:04:04PM +0100, Josef Spillner wrote:
 ¡Hola!
 
 For wheezy they should be removed, as there are KDE 4 successors waiting in 
 the pipeline. Admittedly they've been waiting there in dormant state for 
 several months, but it'd give us a good motivation to work on them again :-)


Thanks for the quick answer! I am filing the removal bugs.

Ana

 Josef
 
 :: Ana Guerrero Sonntag 27 Februar 2011
  Hi!
  
  What are you plans for ggz-kde-client and ggz-kde-games? You probably
  have read already the bugs filed by Eckhart Wörner about the removal
  of the KDE3 libraries filed some months ago.
  
  There are a KDE4 port coming soon or should be removed?
  
  Ana


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kprof removal?

2011-02-26 Thread Ana Guerrero

Hi Jeremy,

I was wondering if it is time to ask for the removal of kprof.
kprof did not make into Squeeze due to a RC bug and it uses kdelibs
from KDE3 that as you might know we are trying to remove
from the archive. (See bug: http://bugs.debian.org/604303)

Do you know if there is a port for KDE 4? Could I go ahead
and file for removal?

Ana


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kde-extras packages using kdelibs4c2a

2011-02-26 Thread Ana Guerrero

Hi folks!

This is the list of packages using kdelibs4c2a maintained by kde-extras
people.


* kasablanca
* kbarcode
* keep
* kfocus
* klibido
* kmobiletools
* kpogre
* ksniffer
* kvdr
* lensfun
* libkipi
* taskjuggler

None of them seem to have a working KDE 4 port (except taskjuggler having
something in ruby...). I guess we can go ahead and file them all 
for removal?

Ana


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Re: Bug#615129: RM: qt-x11-free/3:3.3.8b-7, kdelibs/4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-5

2011-02-25 Thread Ana Guerrero

Hi Jonathan,

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:29:45PM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
 Package: release.debian.org
 Severity: wishlist
 User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
 Usertags: rm
 Tags: moreinfo
 
 Hi,
 
 There seems to be some interest in removing kde3 and qt3 before wheezy
 is released.  This bug is meant to track that process and request
 removal of those packages from testing when it is finished.
 
 Tagged moreinfo because it seems valuable to confirm that the
 maintainers of those packages are okay with the removal once the
 blockers are dealt with. :)
 

It is great you want to help with this. We have already working on this,
could you please join #debian-qt-kde and coodinate with us?
Specially notice than removal of qt3 and kde3libs should be tracked
separately.

Ana


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Bug#581946: kdelibs4c2a: perl-suid is going away with Perl 5.12

2011-02-11 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:52:51PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
 On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 02:21:26PM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote:
  Package: kdelibs4c2a
  Version: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3
  Severity: minor
  User: debian-p...@lists.debian.org
  Usertags: perl-5.12-transition
  
  Perl 5.12 (currently in experimental) removed support for suidperl,
  so the perl-suid Debian package is going away too.
 
 If one believes
 
 grep -r '#!/usr/bin/perl' .
 and
 debian/kdelibs4c2a.lintian
 
 then the only suidperl script is
 
 kio/misc/fileshareset
 
 Searching for other references to this script finds a thread which ends
 with
 
 http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2010-03/msg00690.php which isn't
 conclusive.
 
 Couldn't find anything on https://bugs.kde.org/
 
 Hopefully someone who's more familiar with the KDE project can do a bit
 more digging on this, perhaps filing a bug upstream?


Hi Dominic,

kdelibs4c2a, that is kdelibs from KDE3, is dead ustream
and we are trying actively to remove it from the archive.
See http://wiki.debian.org/kdelibs4c2aRemoval

Ana




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release notes for KDE done

2011-01-19 Thread Ana Guerrero

And after a final small update (rev8166) the part for KDE is done.
And the uprade path fixed, thanks Modestas!!

Ana


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Re: Bug#609255: release-notes: kde4 is new in squeeze

2011-01-07 Thread Ana Guerrero

On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 08:52:52PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
 (x-debbugs-cc to the qt/kde maintainers)
 
 squeeze is the first debian release to include kde4.  Could one of the
 maintainers provide some text for the release notes?
 I think we need at least:
 - a section in the What's new in Debian 6.0 chapter with some highlights
   and major differences with previous releases
 - a section in the Issues to be aware of chapter with the most
   prominent transition issues, if any

Versions that Squeeze will ship:
KDE SC 4.4.5 with kdepim 4.4.7
Qt 4.6.3

Stuff we have to write about from the top of my head:
- KDE 3 is dead, but kdelibs and some KDE 3 apps are still in the archive.
- Also Qt 3 is around and some apps using it.
- kdelibs from KDE 3 and Qt 3 won't be in the next Debian release.
- changes in the metapackages, plasma-desktop vs plasma-netbook
- kaboom, migrating your settings from KDE 3 to KDE 4:
  http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kaboom.html

Let's wait a couple of days in case something important is missing
and I will write the final text.

Ana


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Bug#604827: please build against libwpd 0.9.0/libwpg 0.2.0

2011-01-06 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 04:56:40PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
 Package: koffice
 Severity: wishlist
 Tags: experimental
 
 libwpd 0.9.0 and libwpg 0.2.0 were released and are already in experimental.
 You get this report because your package (build-)depends on it. There's API
 and ABI changed there so it needs a transition. To make it the least painful
 many packages should migrate quickly at least in experimental so they
 can be uploaded to sid together (or at least in short delays) when it's due
 time.


This will be fixed in the first upload of Calligra, an self-fork from koffice,
that will be replacing koffice in the Debian archive.
Hopefully this will hapen whithin the next 2 months.

Ana



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Bug#597469: closed by Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org (Re: Bug#597469: qt4-x11: ftbfs buildd ran out of disk space)

2010-09-20 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:50:44AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
  Thanks for caring about Qt4. Sadly, buildds running out of space is
  something that happens often and filing bugs about this issue is not
  useful given there is nothing that can be done from the maintainers.
 
 this build failure is holding up migration of a security fix to
 testing.  the maintainers can/should request a rebuild on the build
 daemon.


Everybody can ask for a rebuild request, but not sure it will be enought. 
The real fix is only on the hands of the buildd maintainers who are probably 
aware already of the issue, just maybe they do not know how important it is.

Ana



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Bug#585622: katepart automatically delete highlighted text

2010-08-12 Thread Ana Guerrero
severity 585622 normal
thanks

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 08:48:56PM +0800, Michael Tsang wrote:
 Package: kate
 Version: 4:4.4.3-1
 Severity: grave
 Justification: causes non-serious data loss
 
 1 open a text/plain document in Konqueror
 2 highlight some text in the embedded katepart
 3 click on another tab
 4 click on the tab with embedded katepart again
 
 expected result: the text is still highlighted
 actual result: the text is deleted without prior notice, resulting in
 data loss


Hi!
I can not reproduce this problem with kde 4.4.5

Ana



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Re: What about...

2010-08-10 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 01:00:20AM +0200, Marco Valli wrote:
 ... KDE SC 4.5.0 in Sid?
 regards


http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/08/msg0.html

Read after Current status.

Ana


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Bug#591576: FTBFS in hppa

2010-08-03 Thread Ana Guerrero
Package: eigen2
Version: 2.0.12-1
Severity: serious

See log at:
https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=eigen2ver=2.0.14-1arch=hppastamp=1279087164file=log

Ana



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Bug#590172: koffice-doc-html should conflict with old kpresenter data

2010-07-28 Thread Ana Guerrero

Hi Mark!

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:41:51AM -0300, Mark Small wrote:
 Package: koffice-doc-html
 Version: 1:2.2.1-2
 Severity: important
 
 
 Hi there,
 
 Today I installed the new version of koffice that just hit testing.  I ran in 
 to a small problem.  koffice-doc-html wouldn't install until I uninstalled 
 the old kpresenter data because they share a file.  Perhaps there should be a 
 conflicts?


Thanks for your bug, could you please tell me a few more details:
- from what koffice version are you updating from?
- what is the conflicting file?

Ana



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Bug#589673: koffice-l10n: no migrate yet

2010-07-19 Thread Ana Guerrero
Package: koffice-l10n
Version: 2.2.1-2
Severity: serious


Do not allow translation migrate before the app.

Ana



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Bug#589066: kformula: Errors in package description

2010-07-14 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:02:54PM +0200, Davide Prina wrote:
 Package: kformula
 Severity: minor
 
 in DDTSS I see paragraphs more than once (note that from 3th
 paragraph you the 1st one and so on).
 
 The package description is:
 ---8-8-8-8-8-8-8--
 KFormula contains the formula drawing components.  It can be used to
 embed formulas into KOffice documents.
 .
 Features include easy Greek letter insertion, intelligent cursor
 movement, advanced syntax highlighting, multi-level undo support,
 LaTeX export and MathML import.
 .
 This package is part of the KDE Office Suite.
 KFormula is a formula editor that provides the basic input facilities
 and the support functionality expected of a KOffice application.
 .
 Features include easy Greek letter insertion, intelligent cursor
 movement, advanced syntax highlighting, multi-level undo support,
 LaTeX export and MathML import.
 .
 This package is part of the KDE Office Suite.
 ---8-8-8-8-8-8-8--
 
 
 but I think it must be:
 ---8-8-8-8-8-8-8--
 KFormula contains the formula drawing components.  It can be used to
 embed formulas into KOffice documents.
 .
 Features include easy Greek letter insertion, intelligent cursor
 movement, advanced syntax highlighting, multi-level undo support,
 LaTeX export and MathML import.
 .
 This package is part of the KDE Office Suite.
 ---8-8-8-8-8-8-8--

Thanks Davide, effectively kformula only includes now the kformula shape,
I forgot update the description!

Ana



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[ANN] Koffice 2.2.1 in unstable

2010-07-12 Thread Ana Guerrero

Hi everybody,

KOffice 2.2.1 and its translations will be available from unstable in 
a few hours. The upload has been made for AMD64, it might take some hours
more for others arches.

Keep in mind the different level of maturity of the applications and
remember: file upstream at https://bugs.kde.org/ and only file Debian bugs 
in the Debian BTS. When somethigs does not work as expected or you are
unsure, use this user mailing list.

Enjoy and btw ... ¡viva la roja! ;)

Ana


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Bug#585136: kdebase-runtime: drkonqi reports bugs upstream, not following the Debian BTS policy

2010-06-09 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 03:16:37PM +0200, Marc Pignat wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 I think there is a problem with reporting bugs with DrKonqi.
 
 DrKonqi fills bugs upstream, but the Debian policy is to fill bug using the
 Debian BTS.


No, as user, you can file bugs in the Debian BTS, and you are encouraged to 
do this when it is a Debian problem (packaging, integration). However, when 
the bug is upstream it is usually a better idea submit the bug to upstream 
and follow up in whatever system upstream uses.


 As a side effect, we can see the bug count for DebianKde is falling (at least
 on the yearly graph (http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kdebuggraph.html).

That is something we are very happy about. To get some brackground
and understand why is making us happy, please read:

http://ekaia.org/blog/2009/09/26/how-to-get-your-bugs-solved-in-debian-kde/
http://ekaia.org/blog/2010/02/16/no-the-debian-kde-post-you-were-waiting-for/
http://ekaia.org/blog/2010/05/05/kde-443-in-unstable/

 I think either drkonqi or the documentation of BTS should be fixed.

If you think there is any part of the BTS's documentation that says explicitly
you must file bugs in the Debian BTS and not upstream, please let me know.
I will file a bug against bugs.debian.orgwith a rewording suggestion.

Ana





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Re: KOffice 2.2.0 available for general consumption

2010-05-29 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 02:07:58PM -0400, kap4lin wrote:
 On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote:
 
  KOffice 2.2.0 is available for amd64  i386 from the semi-official 
  repository
  at: http://qt-kde.debian.net/
 
  It is still to be decided if KOffice 2.2.0 will make it into Squeeze, I am
  currently inclined to do so. However, it is not yet fully decided and I 
  would
  love some well argumented feedback. Take into consideration some apps are 
  more
  mature than others.
 
 Out of curiosity, I installed koffice on a spare Virtualbox VM
 (Debian/sid - sidux). The VM itself is kept updated.
 
 Both kword and kspread crashed (repeatedly  deterministically) when
 trying to open new blank document! Karbon, Krita, Kpresenter at least
 opened a blank document.
 
  In the case of crashes, install the package koffice-dbg to get a backtrace.
  Read more at:
  http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reportss
 
 As I said, it was just out of curiosity. So, apologies! I do not use
 koffice and I don't see myself using it in foreseeable future. In
 fact, I don't see myself running squeeze either! So, I'll refrain from
 this :(
 
 Even if it gets included, I just hope there is a disclaimer, very
 easily visible to the end user [*,**], that kword, kspread (and may be
 kpresenter) are at best pre-alpha quality softwares! I understand that
 a lot of work has gone into krita (and karbon) so it is worth
 including koffice just for these.


Sorry but I do not see the point of reporting here it crashes if you do not
try to check what is the problem, it might have been very well a problem in 
*your* system or a problem that is easily fixable.
kword, kspread open here a new document without problem, yes they crash from
time to time but not when you open a blank new document. Also, you are using 
sidux, AFAIK it should not be very far from Debian unstable but that packages 
are for a pure Debian unstable instalation (FWIW, they also fine in my netbook 
with testing).

Ana


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Re: KOffice 2.2.0 available for general consumption

2010-05-28 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 01:08:52PM +0200, Xavier Brochard wrote:
 Krita and karbon are ready for end users, other apps not.
 Putting all the suite in Squeeze will expose you to a lot of bugs report! By 
 not putting it, we will see a lot of complaints on this mailing list. The 
 good thing is that every one can answer on this list.


I can only stress here (no for you, to all the users): if you do not send 
the bug report to upstream adding all the information you can and being 
able to provide more information when asked, your posibilities of getting 
the bug report fixed are very low.


 If it is not too much work, I would suggest to put krita and karbon in 
 Squeeze and the other packages in another repository when they will be 
 usable. Then, you will add a line in koffice, karbon and krita packages 
 description (looks like nobody read READMEs) explaining that.
 

No going to happen. KOffice includes a bunch of program with very diferent
public. I have interest in kspread, kword and kivio, but I don't draw (with
or without computer) so my usage and interest in krita and karbon is only 
opening them before uploading new version of koffice to make sure they work :)

Currently my opinion is the less mature apps are not in worse shape that the
koffice 1.6 shipped in Lenny, while the more mature apps seems to be superior 
to those in Lenny.

More information:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=541691

Ana


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Re: KOffice 2.2.0 available for general consumption (mini-update)

2010-05-28 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 04:14:00PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote:
 
 KOffice 2.2.0 is available for amd64  i386 from the semi-official repository
 at: http://qt-kde.debian.net/


You have now available also the localization packages [1], and also the small
application based in koffice libraries braindump [2]

Ana

[1] You can see the list of languages at:
http://qt-kde.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/koffice-l10n/
[2] http://blog.cberger.net/2009/05/20/braindump/


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Bug#580782: KOffice 2.2.0 available for general consumption

2010-05-26 Thread Ana Guerrero

KOffice 2.2.0 is available for amd64  i386 from the semi-official repository
at: http://qt-kde.debian.net/

These packages will arrive to the official archive soon, but since I need to get
some time to update the copyright file and they include new debs (kformula
shape and kexi), they need to go thru NEW queue and it might take a couple of 
weeks.

It is still to be decided if KOffice 2.2.0 will make it into Squeeze, I am
currently inclined to do so. However, it is not yet fully decided and I would
love some well argumented feedback. Take into consideration some apps are more
mature than others.


Some notes and advise:
- You have the instructions in how to use those repositories in the mentioned 
page,
please follow them.
- The packages are for KDE 4.4.3
- If you do not understand very well how to install packages from no official
repositories and you do not want to break your system, do not use them.


Reporting bugs
--
These packages are not in the Debian archive so please *don't* report bugs 
against 
them in the Debian Bug Tracking System.

If you see any packaging problem, please report it in this mailing list. If you 
find 
a bug, miss a feature or have a wishlist, please file a report in the KDE 
bugzilla:
https://bugs.kde.org/
Include all the information you can about your system (Debian experimental, 
KOffice 2.2.0)
and all the details you are able to give.
If you just have a problem and you don't know exactly what it is, send an email 
to this list.

In the case of crashes, install the package koffice-dbg to get a backtrace. 
Read more at:
http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reportss


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KOffice 2.2.0 available for general consumption

2010-05-26 Thread Ana Guerrero

KOffice 2.2.0 is available for amd64  i386 from the semi-official repository
at: http://qt-kde.debian.net/

These packages will arrive to the official archive soon, but since I need to get
some time to update the copyright file and they include new debs (kformula
shape and kexi), they need to go thru NEW queue and it might take a couple of 
weeks.

It is still to be decided if KOffice 2.2.0 will make it into Squeeze, I am
currently inclined to do so. However, it is not yet fully decided and I would
love some well argumented feedback. Take into consideration some apps are more
mature than others.


Some notes and advise:
- You have the instructions in how to use those repositories in the mentioned 
page,
please follow them.
- The packages are for KDE 4.4.3
- If you do not understand very well how to install packages from no official
repositories and you do not want to break your system, do not use them.


Reporting bugs
--
These packages are not in the Debian archive so please *don't* report bugs 
against 
them in the Debian Bug Tracking System.

If you see any packaging problem, please report it in this mailing list. If you 
find 
a bug, miss a feature or have a wishlist, please file a report in the KDE 
bugzilla:
https://bugs.kde.org/
Include all the information you can about your system (Debian experimental, 
KOffice 2.2.0)
and all the details you are able to give.
If you just have a problem and you don't know exactly what it is, send an email 
to this list.

In the case of crashes, install the package koffice-dbg to get a backtrace. 
Read more at:
http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reportss


Ana


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Bug#580782: Please set severity to important :/

2010-05-19 Thread Ana Guerrero
Hi Yves,

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 05:41:03PM +0200, Yves Lambert wrote:
 Package: krita
 Version: 1:2.1.1-1
 Severity: normal
 
 Hi, 
 as libkdcraw7 is no longer in repository, krita cannot 
 be installed anymore with or without KDE 4.3xx and therefore 
 koffice can not be installed. This is formally an *important* 
 bug. 


The bug has a severity higher than important, so not sure what you are asking 
here =)

Ana



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Bug#580782: [krita] Can't install krita due to dependency issue with libkdcraw

2010-05-12 Thread Ana Guerrero

Hi Matthew,

On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 04:06:50PM +0100, Matthew Cope wrote:
 Package: krita
 Version: 1:2.1.1-1
 Severity: serious
 
 Hello,
 
 After updating to KDE SC 4.4.3 krita will not install because it cannot 
 install libkdcraw7.  KDE SC 4.4.3 now uses libkdcraw8 instead of libkdcraw7.
 
 This appears to be similar to (already closed) bugs #579984, #579985  
 #579986.


Yes, koffice needs a new upload to be instalable with KDE 4.3.4. Sadly
for making a new upload, koffice neess also a copyright review that will take 
some time.

Ana




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Re: issue with device notifier in kde4.4.3 (only in panel)

2010-05-07 Thread Ana Guerrero

Hi Iker,

First of all, the list for users question and talk is debian-...@l.d.o.

About your question:
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 12:22:34AM +0200, Iker Salmón San Millán wrote:
 Hello, I have this problem since you uploaded kde4.4 in
 qt-experimental-snapshots repository, but i wasn't sure if it was only a
 trouble with my system.
 I cannot unmount usb disks with the device notifier in the panel, because
 even the font size it is too big or it doesn't resize properly.
 
 When this plasmoid is in the desktop, although it is smaller than the text
 to show, The text stands out together with the button to unmount the device,
 but when it is on the panel this does not happen, making imposible to
 unmount it.
 
 I haven't found anything similar happening to anybody, but i think that
 there is not happening because of my configuration, y have purged and
 reinstaled kde and remove ~/.kde, tried to change fonts size (it seems that
 cannot change plasmoids font size) and i haven't changed the theme of kde.
 
 because i am not sure if can explain myself good enough i have taken two
 snapshots to explain the problem and published in esdebian.org.
 
 It is in spanish but  the explanation is the same, just if some of you want
 to see the pictures:
 
 http://www.esdebian.org/foro/41145/notificador-dispositivos-kde44-demasiado-pequeno
 
 
 I am thinking that maybe is because the translation to spanish needs more
 space that the original text english, but i am just guessing.
 
 what should i have to do? report it as a bug? or request to kde developers
 as feature to avoid the text to stands out the plasmoid?


You could file a request to make the window bigger automatically when the
translation is too long, but I am not sure developers will agree with this
(and I am not sure there is a shorter translation with full sense.)
However, there is a bug if the button does not appear when you put your
mouse over the hard drive you plugged so I suggest you report it all at
http://bugs.kde.org

Ana


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Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-07 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 01:12:31PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
 My point is that many KDE developers and packagers do not use KDE
 like real-world users, and therefore do not appreciate the concerns
 of real-world KDE users.


Of course no, they write KDE while they use GNOME /ironic
Real-world users as such do not exist, developers write what they want 
to use, no what *you* want to use.

Ana


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KDE in Debian, a personal POV

2010-05-07 Thread Ana Guerrero

A couple of ideas that might not be very clear:


Suggestions if you still want to use KDE 3.5

- keep using Lenny forever
- learn how to build it, install it e.g. in /opt/kde and learn how to update it
every time there is a new non-compatible library in your system
- switch to another distribution that stills ships kde 3.5 (I think centos 5.0
  still ships KDE 3.5.4)
- pay/bribe somebody to make packages for you.

Somebody will add here about some KDE 3.5 repositories that are out there, but
those repositories are unlikely to be there forever.


suggestions if you do not want to use KDE 4.4
--
- switch to another desktop like Gnome, XFCE, GNU STEP or LXDE
- don't use any desktop
- learn how to love KDE 4 ? :)


suggestions if you are OK with KDE 4.4 but you have some issues
---
Ask yourself what you can do to improve it. Understand developers working in
a project do not have the same motivation or interest than you and they 
primarily
write the software for them, not for you, just they share it and you can use it
too (or improve it)
You can ask them nicely to look at your stuff, and they can tell you nicely if
they are not interested.

Complain unfairly will only demotivate developers and will have the opposite
effect of what you wanted.


Some extra comments:

If you think Debian (*) (not the Qt/KDE maintainers) should be acting 
different,
make sure you agree with the Debian Social Contract and Constitution, start
contributing to Debian until you become a person who has a track of 
contributions
and then you can try converting Debian in what you think it should be.

(*) mind debian is not an entity, it is a bunch of people with very different
motivations.

If you think you do not have the skills to contribute, you can try start 
learning,
all the developers started as a mere users, sometimes because they did not like
something!.
If you do not have the time, that's life, you have to choose, I would love 
eating
good vegetarians meals every day but I do not have the time to learn how to cook
them every day or the money to pay for them, mostly because I choose to do other
things on my time.


Finally, a more personal opinion, that I hope will help to understand the point,
in the case I would have not liked KDE 4 at all, I just would have switched
to something else. It would have never cross my mind maintaining KDE 3, it would
have required like 2 or 3 times the work currently it takes maintaining KDE 4,
that is not exaclty  little.
Some people seem to believe we do not maintain KDE 3 just because we do not 
want and
it would just be matter of keeping those packages there in a corner of the 
archive,
it would be a titanic work maintaining such a piece of abandoned software.
You would be underestimating if you think 2-3 persons could maintain KDE 3 on
their own, when KDE 3 was actively maintained it had more than 200 developers,
some paid to do so full time! Maybe you do not need so many people to maintain
it just working, but there are small features you might want in the future,
e.g support for HTML 5. How can 2-3 persons without deep knowledge of
all the code expect to do that?

Have a nice weekend,

Ana 


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Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
 Hello!
 
 First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best.
 
 I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using
 the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny.
 
 Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5 could
 remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4.


No, there is not sane way and there is nobody interested on it.

 I really feel sorry that KDE 3 series is no more being developed, and
 when the day cames that I no longer will be able to use KDE 3, I will
 switch to Apple or even Windows, but NEVER to kde4 or Gnome!
 (and I feel many users out there think like me!!!)


You still have gnustep, xfce, lxde, no using any or simply never upgrade.

Ana


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Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2010-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 06:13:50PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 
 These responses are quite frustrating.  I read Ana's post as please make 
 sure 
 KDE 4.4 is ready for stable.  My post was KDE 4.4 is inappropriate for 
 stable.  All the replies have been too bad, we are going to release it 
 anyway.


No, you complain about something *specific* no the whole KDE 4.4, as I told 
you, if you are able to develop a patch for it, there is plenty of time for 
testing before freeze. Understand no everybody is annoyed about that.

Ana


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Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 07:41:23AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote:
 On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say:
  On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
   Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5
   could remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4.
 
  No, there is not sane way and there is nobody interested on it.
 
 While the former is certainly true, the latter is demonstrably false.

False? Who from the current maintainers have seen you showing interest
in maintaining KDE 3.5? Please demostrate it :-)

Ana


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Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 04:39:02PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Sune Vuorela:
  On 2010-05-06, Curt Howland howl...@priss.com wrote:
   On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say:
   On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5
could remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4.
   
   No, there is not sane way and there is nobody interested on it.
   
   While the former is certainly true, the latter is demonstrably false.
  
  Where is your code?
  
  I will repeat No one is interested in doing it.
 
 That does not seem to be entirely true as was mentioned elsewhere in this 
 thread:
 
 http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/
 
 However this seems far away from the man-power behind KDE 3 until 3.5.10. 
 To truly get forward with this one it appears to me that way more 
 developers are needed. Who then would have less or no time to work on 
 improving KDE 4.

Doing stuff in your own is easy. Doing stuff coordinating with a whole distro,
whithin ugly hacks and with a good ending quality, is not.

BTW, I would rather advise people learn how to build their own packages before
using and thus depending in this 3rd party repo, no only because security 
reasons, 
or because it is not built in the top of debian.  This repo is not going to be 
there forever, for sure, sooner or later people maintaining it will get tired, 
and if you are planning to use KDE 3 forever...

Just pointing about this to people mentioning this repo, nothing direclty to
Martin here :)

Ana


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Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 01:26:34PM -0400, Curt Howland wrote:
 On Thursday 06 May 2010 it was so written:
  On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 07:41:23AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote:
   On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say:
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
 Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE
 3.5 could remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to
 Kde4.
   
No, there is not sane way and there is nobody interested on it.
  
   While the former is certainly true, the latter is demonstrably
   false.
 
  False?
 
 Yes, false. There are lots of people who are interested in having KDE3 
 continue, as opposed to being forced to upgrade to KDE4.


Ok, you read me wrong: nobody is interested in working on it.


  Who from the current maintainers have seen you showing 
  interest in maintaining KDE 3.5? Please demostrate it :-)
 
 I'll demonstrate, sure.
 
 there is nobody interested on it does not equal there is no 
 developers interested in working on it.
 
 If you had stated from the current maintainers in the first place, I 
 would not have taken your statement as inclusive of all people, and 
 you would not have then assumed that I mean developers.
 
 That there are no interested developers to do the work involved is 
 self evident, since it is not occurring.

And since we said from the very beginning (more than 2 years) it was not going
to happen.
You have demostrated nothing here =)

Ana



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Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:54:17AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
 I have great respect for Ana's work but even Ana is using Mutt.


This has nothing to do with KDE 4 or kdepim, I have been using mutt 
for more than 6 years now...

Ana


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KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2010-05-05 Thread Ana Guerrero

Hi,

Given no everybody reads planet Debian, here goes a copy of 
http://ekaia.org/blog/2010/05/05/kde-443-in-unstable/


Following Qt 4.6.2, uploaded a couple of weeks ago, KDE 4.4.3, has finally
found its way to unstable in the last 48 hours.
Given KDE 4.5.0 is not expected until August, it is likely the next point
release, 4.4.4, will be the KDE version included in next Debian stable,
Squeeze. What this means: go and update to 4.4.3, test, and when you find a
bug, please, follow this instructions [0]. If you are lazy to read it: report
upstream bugs at the KDE Bugzilla and report the packaging/integration bugs in
the Debian BTS. When in doubt, you have the Debian KDE mailing list [1], that is
being successful so far in maintaining a good signal-noise ratio.

I would like highlight the drop in the open bugs in the BTS experimented in
the last 2-3 months, I published this graph in February:

http://ekaia.org/img-blog/2010/ALL_3years-February2009.png

And look at the situation now:

http://ekaia.org/img-blog/2010/ALL_3years-May2010.png

This is mainly due to the great work of Eckhart Wörner. Also there is other
people who contributed to it more modestly, a big thank you to all of you!

As you can see in the second graph, there are less than 1000 bugs open now in
the BTS, they are still too much and time has taught us it is very easy going
over 1000 again, so we still welcome more volunteers looking at bugs.

If you are not the bugsquasher type, you can write HTML and you do some IRC,
we also need somebody to help us reorganize a bit the pkg-kde website[2]. I will
help you personally on this task, but it is good if you can lurk by IRC and
you are not scared to share your doubts with the rest of the team there.

Finally, I promise I will publish something about the status of KOffice
pre-2.2 in Debian, but I still can not say whether it will be in Squeeze. 

[0]
http://ekaia.org/blog/2009/09/26/how-to-get-your-bugs-solved-in-debian-kde/
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/
[2] http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/



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Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2010-05-05 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 04:21:15PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 May 2010 15:24:49 Ana Guerrero wrote:
  Following Qt 4.6.2, uploaded a couple of weeks ago, KDE 4.4.3, has finally
  found its way to unstable in the last 48 hours.
  Given KDE 4.5.0 is not expected until August, it is likely the next point
  release, 4.4.4, will be the KDE version included in next Debian stable,
  Squeeze.
 
 Please, please, don't do this.
 
 In 4.4, kmail depends on mysql-server in order to send mail. (kmail - 
 Akonadi 
 - mysql-server).
 
 In 4.3, this is not true.  From what I hear on upstream mailing lists, this 
 won't be true in 4.5.  Upstream is already aware and working on the issue, 
 but 
 it falls under new feature so it won't be included in the 4.4.x line.
 
 For me, KDE 4.4 is the most broken KDE release since 4.1 (I didn't try 4.0).  
 I'd rather have 4.3.x in Squeeze than 4.4.
 
 Actually, I like most of KDE 4.4 and am currently using it for day-to-day 
 work.  I'm still using kmail/kontact/etc. (basically kdepim) from 4.3 since I 
 have no desire to run yet another RDBMS on my system.  (I already run 
 PostgreSQL, and have a number of apps that use SQLite installed.)
 
 Please don't force an Akonadi-enabled PIM suite on stable users before they 
 are provided with an Akonadi that can use something other than MySQL.

KDE 4.4 is the current stable release, there is not much more options here
with the freeze happening around the summer *before* 4.5 is out.
Good news is you have at least a couple of months to develop a patch for this.

ana


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Re: broken url

2010-04-25 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 05:05:55PM +0200, 3m4il wrote:
 Hi Guys
 The URL to the i386 Version of  KDE-Debian ist broken (404).
 Page:
 http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde3.html
 Link:
 http://caesar.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/4.0_r6/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r6-i386-kde-CD-1.iso
 bye


That page was highly outdated. I have updated the links to mention Lenny now
instead of etch :) Thanks!

Ana


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Re: Koffice plans for squeeze?

2010-03-29 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:51:22AM -0500, Joe Neal wrote:
 Is Squeeze going to ship with any version of Koffice at all?  I have papers 
 and 
 documents going back nearly ten years in koffice formats and I will need to 
 retain access to them from time to time.  
 
 If Squeeze dosen't ship with Koffice is it expected to make a showing in 
 backports fairly soon after the release?  Keeping a Lenny install in 
 VirtualBox is not my preferred solution so  I'd rather keep my stable 
 workstation at Lenny until Koffice is available for Squeeze via backports if 
 that will be an option. 

Whether KOffice2 will ship in Squeeze is still undefined. Koffice 2.0 and 2.1
were not really suitable for the final user. Currently KOffice 2.2.0 is in
beta phase but there is not a date set for the final release. Once we have 
KDE 4.4 in unstable (and there is not a date for this) I will update KOffice
in *experimental* to the latest (pre)release of 2.2.0. 

About using KOffice in your testing/unstable system, you can try using koffice2 
from experimental. 

Ana


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Bug#571990: [libqt4-dev] Reopen bug closed without reason

2010-03-04 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:55:30AM +0100, Robert Wohlrab wrote:
 reopen 571990
 thanks
 
 Please don't close a bug who wants a upload to unstable with an upload to 
 experimental.

You bug can be understood as a request to upload to a new version, so do not
take it so bad ;)
Have you realized also your mail subject is kind of wrong?

Ana




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Bug#572374: please consider Section: Education

2010-03-03 Thread Ana Guerrero
Package: ftp.debian.org


Hi,

While trying to sort of the Section field for the apps included in kdeedu,
I started to wonder if we are missing a subsection in the archive for 
educational applications.
We have a lot of new applications in the archive that are not exactly 
games. Currently most of the applications are split between the subsections 
misc and games.
E.g.: under games we have childsplay, tuxtype and under misc we have
jclic, anki and most of the debian-edu metapackages.

We also have several linguistic applications (no localization ones) that could
fall under this category: apertium, kiten or parley.

I am sure there are more educational apps hidden under other categories.

Ana



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Bug#561779: More info...

2010-02-26 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 09:46:25PM +0100, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
 
 Does KDE offer a screenshot app btw? I couldn't locate one using APT...


ksnapshot.

Ana



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Bug#560957: closed by Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer

2010-02-22 Thread Ana Guerrero
fixed 560957 4:4.3.1-1
thanks

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 08:51:44PM -0900, Florian Aldehoff wrote:
 Hi Lisandro,
 
 I disagree with closing this bug. As similar bug reports like 
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdepim/+bug/158978 and 
 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140443 indicate, a rewrite of the dimap 
 system in newer versions of kmail makes this bug in Kmail 1.9.9 
 unreproducible with KDE 4.2+. However the bug continues to exist in KDE 
 3.5.10 and makes Kmail unusable unless I have a second backup IMAP server to 
 recover deleted messages. You switched the bug status to more information - 
 what else do you need to know?


The bug can be closed with a version (doing it now) marking it is fixed in 
4:4.3.1-1.
This will mark the bug fixed in unstable and for the next Debian stable release 
but 
it will continue appearing as open in stable (KDE 3.5.10)

 Apart from this bug I'm a happy user of 3.5 and not to eager to switch to 
 KDE4 
 prior to the next Debian stable release - actually I consider staying with 
 3.5 even when Debian 6 is out. Any chance that the improvements in newer 
 Kmail versions are backported to Kmail 1.9.9?

I am afraid the answer is no. KDE 3 and KDE 4 are quite different and 
development 
of KDE 3 is dead now. 
The only KDE 3 bugs that will be fixed are those security bugs that a real
threat.

Ana


 
 Am Sonntag, 21. Februar 2010 17:57:05 schrieb Debian Bug Tracking System:
  This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report
  which was filed against the kmail package:
 
  #560957: kmail deleted contents of inbox with dimap
 
  It has been closed by Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
  perezme...@gmail.com.
 
  Their explanation is attached below along with your original report.
  If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a
  better one in a separate message then please contact Lisandro Damián
  Nicanor Pérez Meyer perezme...@gmail.com by replying to this email.
 



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Re: kde-minimal dependency problem (libxxf86misc1)

2010-02-20 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 01:49:40AM +0100, Ramon Antonio Parada wrote:
 There is an installation problem KDE in unstable.
 
 Package libxxf86misc1 is present in unstable but only avr32 and m68k
 ports while other architectures (amd64, i386, etc) were moved to
 testing. [1]
 
 kde-minimal depends on kdebase-workspace, depends on
 kdebase-workspace-bin, depends on libxxf86misc1 which as I said is not
 avaliable in unstable for most architectures. Need to manually
 download packages if you wanna install kde.


This is known and it will be fixed in the next KDE upload (4.4 whenever it
will be).
You do not need to download anything manually, just keep the testing lines
in your sources.list. The library will be in testing as long as KDE 4.3.x 
is there needing it.
As unstable user it is a good idea keeping always testing in your sources.list 
to avoid this kind of problems when transitions are going on. 

Ana


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Bug#561779: Markers for range selections not updated as necessary

2010-02-18 Thread Ana Guerrero
Hi Marcos,

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 03:46:52PM +, Marcos Marado wrote:
 Upstream bug report at:
 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219842

Thanks for forwading the bug! Next time, could you please link in the debian
BTS?
You only need to send an email to cont...@bugs.debian.org with the following
text:

forwarded XXX http:/bugs.kde.org/
thanks

e.g, for this case:
fowarded 561779 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219842
thanks


The Subject: of the email does not matter.

Ana




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Bug#561779: Bug fixed

2010-02-18 Thread Ana Guerrero
reopen 561779
notfixed 561779 4:4.3.4-1
thanks

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 02:20:55PM +0200, Antonis Tsiapaliokas wrote:
 Package: kdepim
 Version: 4:4.3.4-1
 
 The above bug about the kmail has been fixed in version 4:4.3.4-1 of the
 kdepim.Bug report is closing.

After a quick chat with Antonis by IRC he told me he has tried to reproduce
the bug several times with a new version (4:4.3.4-1) and the bug was not
reproducible for it.
Ulrich, you reported it against 4:4.3.2-1, could you check with this
newer version?

Ana



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Bug#498903: krita: Can't import files with dcraw: non-numeric argument to -n

2010-02-17 Thread Ana Guerrero
Hi Kurt,

On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 03:05:19PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
 found 498903 1:1.6.3-8
 fixed 498903 1:2.1.1-1
 thanks
 
 I think I never got your mail asking about this.  The version
 in experimental seems to make use of libraw instead, so
 it's not giving that error.

What kokeroulis meant is you have been asked about this bug from another
triager, see: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=498903#10

 Is that an embedded copy of libraw?  I don't see it in the
 archive.


No, Krita from koffice 2 uses libkdcraw from kdegraphics.

Ana



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Re: old debian kde version

2010-02-05 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 07:54:42PM +0100, aiacovi...@libero.it wrote:
 Hi,
 is there any way to get old version of kde as packaged by Debian?
 Are .tar.gz , .diff.gz and .dsc files archived somewhere?


Given what you want is the source package, you could fetch the kde tarballs
from KDE's ftp (check the Attic dir [1]) and the debian/ directory
from the packaging SVN [2].

[1] ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/Attic 
[2] http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-kde (check the tags dir)

HTH,
Ana


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Bug#562388: soprano: FTBFS: cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/lib/soprano/libsoprano_raptorserializer.so': No such file or directory

2010-02-01 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:35:38AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
 Source: soprano
 Version: 2.3.1+dfsg.1-1
 Severity: serious
 User: debian...@lists.debian.org
 Usertags: qa-ftbfs-20091213 qa-ftbfs
 Justification: FTBFS on amd64



...

Fixed in SVN, it will be fixed in next release of soprano for KDE 4.4.

Ana



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Bug#566120: kde-l10n: please provide kde-l10n-all

2010-01-21 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 02:38:50PM +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote:
 Package: kde-l10n
 Severity: wishlist
 
 Hi,
 
 please add a kde-l10n-all metapackage depending on all kde-l10n-* packages.


Maybe if you tell me why this would be a good idea...

Ana




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Bug#566120: kde-l10n: please provide kde-l10n-all

2010-01-21 Thread Ana Guerrero
tags 566120 wontfix
thanks


On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 04:40:13PM +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote:
 Ana Guerrero wrote:
  Maybe if you tell me why this would be a good idea...
 
 this is essential when building live cds (or here, dvds).

Unless this is explained more, I do not see the point.

Ana



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Bug#504870: tags

2010-01-13 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:36:50AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
 tags  504870 + experimental
 thanks
 
 Hi Ana,
 
  # This package is not in sid/squeeze since months ago.
 
 will it come back from experimental? else I'd propose to close this bug...

http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2009/12/msg00099.html


 I've tagged it sid+squeeze so it doesnt show up on 
 http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/stable.html


Maybe the tag experimental is not a good idea here and using versioned stuff 
is better, we can do 2 things:
a) It is a removed package so close it as last version in unstable plus +rm
b) Close it as fixed in experimental. In the unlikely case it is not, I will
fix it in my next koffice upload due to this week.

I like more b) but i think it still will confuse some scripts asummin the
package is in unstable (so showing this problem affecting).

Also you have tagged other packages in similar cases. I guess you were
tagging after doko's bug updates, but he did not look carefully and there is 
ton of false positives (e.g. #565009)

Ana



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Re: Koffice in sid

2009-12-29 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:31:39PM +0100, Diederik de Haas wrote:
 On 2009-12-29 Jakub Nowacki wrote:
  Hello!
  Does anyone know when we can expect the new Koffice in Sid?
  Is it so buggy that it must be kept in experimental since November? :-)
 

 On 2009-08-07 Modestas Vainius wrote:
  It is not in Sid because it is not ready for Sid (software quality wise). 
  There is no need to be scared of experimental.


Answering here as main package of KOffice in Debian

KOffice 2, as suite, is not fully ready for the masses, it is not only
my personal impression, you can read the same in the KOffice 2.1 release 
announcement at [0] in bold:

should still only be used by early adopters and probably not as the primary
worktool.

If squeeze were to be released tomorrow, it would be without KOffice. 
About whether KOffice 2.2 will be in unstable, it is to be decided when it is
released.

Also, it would help enormously getting co-maintainers (see [1]).

That said, you can install it cleanly from experimental, then check if it is 
suitable for your needs. Very important: bug reports must go to upstream :)

Ana
[0] http://www.koffice.org/news/koffice-2-1-released/
[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=541691


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Re: No xorg dependency for kde-minimal?

2009-11-22 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 02:00:13AM +0100, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
 Hi, Sune:
 
 On Sunday 22 November 2009 01:19:39 Sune Vuorela wrote:
  On 2009-11-21, Diederik de Haas didi.deb...@cknow.org wrote:
   Hello,
  
   I'm setting up a virtualbox image to do some testing and installed
   kde-minimal into it. After rebooting I didn't see KDE start up and
   executing 'startkde' produced the following msg: $DISPLAY is not set or
   cannot connect to the X server.
   Searching with aptitude revealed that no single xorg package was
   installed.
  
   While I realise that this is kde-minimal, but isn't this a bit too
   minimal (=useless)? (I know how to fix it, so no need to explain that)
 
  You can run kde from a remote machine...
 
 But it usually (while not always) will be run locally.  Therefore it should 
 suggest an X environment (not a hard dependency but yes a suggets).


There is a Recommends already:

a...@pryan:~$ apt-cache show kde-minimal

Priority: optional
Section: kde
Installed-Size: 36
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org
Architecture: all
Source: meta-kde
Version: 5:55
Depends: kdebase-runtime (= 4:4.3.1), kdebase-workspace (= 4:4.3.1),
kdebase-apps (= 4:4.3.1)
Recommends: kdm (= 4:4.3.1), xserver-xorg   ---
Suggests: kde-l10n (= 4:4.3.1)
...


Ana


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Re: KDE Support in Debian

2009-11-10 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:09:07AM +0800, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan wrote:
 My installation step is like this:
 
 1. Download stable netinstall CD
 2. Install stable using netinstall as minimal possible
 3. Change /etc/apt/sources.list to point to testing
 4. Aptitude update
 5. Aptitude full-upgrade
 6. Aptitude install kde-minimal


I also would recommend this way to a new user, just one small comment:
instead of kde-minimal, you can install kde-standard, that is kde-minimal plus 
some 
of the most common apps used. It is half-way between kde-minimal and kde-full.

Ana


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Bug#552496: kwalletmanager: needs endless to open wallet and consumes up to 100% of one cpu

2009-10-27 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:19:03AM +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 06:09:47PM +0100, Patrick Winnertz wrote:
  Package: kwalletmanager
  Version: 4:4.3.2-1
  Severity: important
  
  kwalletmanager needs around 10 minutes to open the wallet after startup and 
  for this time one of my two cpu's
  consumes is fully busy with kwallet.
  
  As this makes kwallet pretty useless, this is in my eyes a important bug, 
  and it would be cool to have it fixed.
 
 
 I ran into this once with KDE 3. Look if any (or all ) of your wallet files 
 (under /home/user/.kde/share/apps/kwallet ), 
 got corrupted or trunked to 0. You can create a new empty one and open/close 
 it to test.
 If this is the case, i hope you have backups...


oops, ovbiously yours did not get trunked because you can open it until wait 
some time.
But the behaviour you tell is what happened to me when the file got trucked and 
basically it told me it was unable to 
open it after ~10-15 min with my system busy.

Ana



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Bug#552496: kwalletmanager: needs endless to open wallet and consumes up to 100% of one cpu

2009-10-27 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 06:09:47PM +0100, Patrick Winnertz wrote:
 Package: kwalletmanager
 Version: 4:4.3.2-1
 Severity: important
 
 kwalletmanager needs around 10 minutes to open the wallet after startup and 
 for this time one of my two cpu's
 consumes is fully busy with kwallet.
 
 As this makes kwallet pretty useless, this is in my eyes a important bug, and 
 it would be cool to have it fixed.


I ran into this once with KDE 3. Look if any (or all ) of your wallet files 
(under /home/user/.kde/share/apps/kwallet ), 
got corrupted or trunked to 0. You can create a new empty one and open/close it 
to test.
If this is the case, i hope you have backups...

Ana




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Bug#548708: FTBFS with GCC 4.4: #elif is missing defined()

2009-09-28 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:35:52AM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 Package: wv2
 Version: 0.4.0.dfsg-1
 User: debian-...@lists.debian.org
 Usertags: ftbfs-gcc-4.4
 Tags: patch


Fixed upstream already:
http://wvware.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wvware/wv2-trunk/src/ustring.cpp?r1=2r2=36pathrev=36

So it will be in the next upstream release.

Ana



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Bug#548229: ksnapshot has no man page

2009-09-25 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 05:50:04PM -0400, Daniel Bolton wrote:
 Armin,
 
 I have attached a man page.


Thanks, but could you provide an *useful* manpage? The manpage you have
attached just shows the output of ksnapshot --help, if we thought this is
useful we already would have added this automatically long time ago...


Ana




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Bug#548229: ksnapshot has no man page

2009-09-25 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 06:01:18PM +0200, Frederik Schwarzer wrote:
 [Ana Guerrero | Friday 25 September 2009]
  On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 05:50:04PM -0400, Daniel Bolton wrote:
   Armin,
  
   I have attached a man page.
  
  Thanks, but could you provide an *useful* manpage? The manpage you have
  attached just shows the output of ksnapshot --help, if we thought this
   is useful we already would have added this automatically long time
   ago...
 
 Could you define useful? I saw some manpages that basically state the
 --help output with one or two sentences above to explain what the tool is 
 for.

Yes, there is plenty of no useful manpages. That is not excuse to add more.

About what is useful from my POV, if after reading a manpage you know something
else about what you can do with the app.
For example, look at ark manpage (sadly, outdated) it not only includes the
relevant output of --help (it skip the generic options), it also includes
examples of how to use the app, what to read to know more (see also 
paragprah),
ark's maintainer, where to find more information about ark, a long description 
about 
ark...
And it could include more stuff like where to report bugs...


Ana



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Bug#548229: ksnapshot has no man page

2009-09-25 Thread Ana Guerrero

Hi Daniel,

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 01:59:03PM -0400, Daniel Bolton wrote:
 Sorry for wasting your time. I think a simple man page should have
 been added a long time ago. Then I wouldn't have filed this report and
 wasted my time. The handbook entry (
 http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdegraphics/ksnapshot/index.html )
 pretty much gives the same info about invoking the program and then
 says to click the buttons.


Nobody is wasting their time here. I do not know if you are subscribed to the
bug, but I should have send you this more useful answer [1] firstly to you, 
sorry.

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=548229#37


 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote:
  On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 05:50:04PM -0400, Daniel Bolton wrote:
  Armin,
 
  I have attached a man page.
 
 
  Thanks, but could you provide an *useful* manpage? The manpage you have
  attached just shows the output of ksnapshot --help, if we thought this is
  useful we already would have added this automatically long time ago...
 
 
  Ana
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Daniel



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Bug#545392: Konqueror: Crashes on acid3 test

2009-09-08 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 11:35:19PM +0200, Kai-Martin wrote:
 Package: konqueror
 Version: 4:4.2.4-1
 Severity: normal
 
 
 konqueror crashes on acid3 test provided by
   http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid3
 The crash occures in the middle of the test at number 42. (Makes me wonder if 
 this
 is in any way related to the hitchhikers guide to the universe ...)


Works here with 4.3.1, it does not pass the test, sadly :)
Update and if you still have crashes, install the debugging packages to get a
proper backtrace.





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Bug#544167: kde-l10n-sr: Wrong language mentioned in the package description

2009-08-29 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:05:34PM +0200, Beatrice Torracca wrote:
 Package: kde-l10n-sr
 Severity: minor
 
 
 Hi.
 
 The package description mentions the Latvian language where it should
 say serbian
 
 Just a minor thing.


Good catch! It will be fixed in the next upload.

Ana



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Re: KDE plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-26 Thread Ana Guerrero
Hi Marc et all,

I will answer including also Qt 4 plans, that as you know is a quite
important part of KDE 4 :)

 * Which major upstream releases of KDE are expected in the next two
   years? Which of those are material for Debian stable, which might be a bit
   flaky?

About KDE
--

We currently have KDE 4.3.0 in unstable.
KDE 4.4 is expected about January 2010.
KDE 4.5 is expected about July 2010.

It is not a good idea to do more speculation about dates after this point
because in KDE they are also testing new release management methods. 

About flaky releases, usually 0 point releases have some bugs and any further 
point releases are highly preferred to ship in a Debian stable release.
In case of freezing with a .0 (or .1) release, we would like to be given the 
possibility of upload the next point releases given that point releases have so 
far contained fewer regressions than actual bug fixes.
Having a .2 or .3 point release would be the ideal.

We would like to mention that neither of us expected to release with KDE 4.3.X 
and we didn't give (nor will give now being late to the party) to it as much 
care as it probably needed to.

About Qt
-
We currently have Qt 4.5.2 in the archive and the development and expectations 
are on Qt 4.6. This release is expected about the end of this year or worse 
case, 
very early 2010.
Qt 4.6 will deliver an important set of new features (animation API, state 
machine 
framework), and important updates (graphics view, webkit, qtscript) [0]. 
Leaving 
4.6 outside of the next stable, would put Squeeze in an unsupported status of 
new 
Qt software for its entire life span.
It is also worth mentioning Qt 4.5.x doesn't support GCC 4.4 (and won't), Qt 
4.6 
will do. 
As with KDE the best is always shipping with a point release and Qt 4.6.1 is 
our 
minimal target.


 * How much time do you usually need from a new upstream release of KDE
   to a stable Debian package in unstable?

KDE releases the tarballs to packagers one week before release, so packagers
have time to prepare the packaging. We usually get something ready (with the
4.x releases) for release day, sometimes with some bugs, sometimes not. These
bugs are usually weeded out during a week or two after this.

For point releases, which is only bug fix releases, we usually get the
packaging fully right at first upload, which happens around release day.


 * How many big transitions will the upcoming changes cause? When should 
 those
   happen? Can we do something to make them easier?

We already have done most of the complicated stuff when moving from kde 3 to 
kde 4.
We have some stuff we would like to do but nothing too big or must do before 
next
release.


If we could plan the Debian release cycle completely after what would be good
for KDE, squeeze will freeze shortly after KDE 4.5.0 is uploaded to Debian
(July 2010) and the 4.5.x point releases would be allowed in.

KDE would have the possibility to take advantage of the new things in Qt4.6, 
and 
we would reach Qt4.6.2 or something like that on the Qt side.



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